Lakigigar wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 10:45 amI'm on my other pc so i can make a longer post. With my older pc, i have to copy / paste characters which is annoying. (why i wasn't able to finish fok! top 250 also), but well.Fergenaprido wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 10:24 amI'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from, especially the 354. Yes, there are no official films on Japanese country lists from the 2010s, but there are a number on other official lists. Plus, this is not an issue unique to Japan, and I don't think the remedy is adopting decade lists for each country or region. And while Korea does indeed have two lists, they're both shorter than the single Japanese list (100+100 vs 199), which is why I was looking at the number of films as opposed to the number of lists. That was my point.Lakigigar wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 12:26 am Japan made more movies than Latin America during that time. Since 2000, 354 movies became official. In Japan only 19 + 54 = 71, none of them are newer than 2008, meaning zero movies from both lists since 2010. Some countries have more lists like Korea with 2, though both are dated as well. You're failing to make your point
I'm not sure I understand your argument here. Are you comparing Ebert's list to the one from Cousins?
I'm not trying to compare them; you mentioned that you thought Asian cinema deserved more recognition, and I was agreeing with you, and sharing my own personal thoughts on parts of the continent that I felt were underlooked. You don't have to share my enthusiasm about them.Lakigigar wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 12:26 am Sorry, but who cares about the Caucasus, if you compare them to East Asia. I'm sure 500 more Japanese and Chinese movies deserve to become official before 5 Caucasian ones. One day, we can include them, but not before Asia (and Europe] gets the Latin America treatment.![]()
The 354 films is the total for the Cinema Tropical lists from the two decade lists. Especially the second one added a bunch of films (250 ones), which is good. I love that list. It's a great list. It's why I say other nations / regions deserve to be treated like Latin American is done. There are few gaps in Latin America, aside of maybe a few country lists, but I think they're well covered already thanks to the decade Latin America lists (and the older Cien anos sin soledad (which only runs until 2000) list). Latin America is currently well covered, and done in an excellent way.
Japan however made more movies throughout the same period and the Kinema Jumpo (which is more focused on classic Japanese cinema) and Tom Vick's Asian Cinema list only have 71 movies from 2000 to 2008. Both lists are dated as well. I wouldn't remove them. What helps in Korea favour is that their cinema really started to flourish in the 21st century, which is why a large amount of films of the beginning of 21st century is covered in their lists, sometimes twice. But both lists are also dated. It's annoying to me to see that a lot of country lists are dated, but that's not to blame for ICM.
The critics lists are okay, i don't use them but they barely add new official films and more importantly are composed by one single person, most likely famous, so why is it impossible to add a list by someone a little bit less famous that covers an entire period / country / region that would fill a gap. It's not perfect, but what i'm saying is that it's been done in the past.
And I'm not against adding a Caucasus list for example. In fact, it would be great, even though i would have zero checks and not work on it (yet), but i think there are bigger gaps left yet to fill, especially contemporary cinema and East Asian cinema.
Now where I bump one of the older posts from this thread, I realize it's you! It was you all along.

Totally agree on this.