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Post by OldAle1 » July 21st, 2020, 4:58 pm

Oh yeah I would never think it should be adopted - lots of good lists out there don't meet the parameters for official status. Just more opening up new areas of exploration.


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Post by mjf314 » July 24th, 2020, 2:17 pm

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/fea ... tq-movies/
Empire's The 50 Best LGBTQ+ Movies

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/mov ... 9-1009187/
Rolling Stone's 50 Essential LGBTQ Movies

Both lists were published last month.

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/f ... gbt-films/
Harper's Bazaar's 30 of the Best LGBT Films of All Time

This list was published in May.

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Post by Fergenaprido » July 24th, 2020, 7:43 pm

mjf314 wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 2:17 pm
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/fea ... tq-movies/
Empire's The 50 Best LGBTQ+ Movies

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/mov ... 9-1009187/
Rolling Stone's 50 Essential LGBTQ Movies

Both lists were published last month.

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/f ... gbt-films/
Harper's Bazaar's 30 of the Best LGBT Films of All Time

This list was published in May.
Thanks for sharing mjf. I've added all three to icm.

Empire
Rolling Stone
Harper's Bazaar

My take is that HB is an introductory list good for people unfamiliar with queer cinema; it's mostly the usual suspects - the only surprise inclusion for me was Gun Hill Road, which is one of the 4 films on that I list I haven't yet seen. The Empire list bugs me. Despite it being the only film-oriented magazine of the three, it's the most lacklustre list IMHO, featuring critical darlings and a lot of recency bias. It does do a great job at covering trans films, though, which is something most often omitted from other lists (15 of the films are about transpeople, drag queens, or gender non-conforming folks). I also thought Empire had already published an LGBTQ list, but I was mistaken. Surprisingly, I like the Rolling Stone list the most; fittingly, it's the most "rock 'n' roll" bunch of films, despite there being a significant overlap with the Empire list.

Given the three magazines come from three rather different perspectives, I was expecting less overlap, but it is what it is. All three lists could do with more exposure to non-English cinema, but I suppose if they're targeting the English market they're going to focus on that (aside from the most "notable" foreign language films). I will be adding all three to my personal cross-reference list (Empire & RS to tier 3, HB to tier 4).

I've seen 41/50 of Empire, 37/50 of Rolling Stone, and 26/30 of Harper's Bazaar.

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Post by max-scl » July 24th, 2020, 11:58 pm

Best of the decade by Caimán magazine poll:
https://www.caimanediciones.es/la-encue ... 2010-2019/

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Post by Angel Glez » July 25th, 2020, 7:57 am

max-scl wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 11:58 pm
Best of the decade by Caimán magazine poll:
https://www.caimanediciones.es/la-encue ... 2010-2019/
Oh, I thought this was already posted. I have the magazine with ballots if anyone is interested.

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Post by max-scl » July 25th, 2020, 4:37 pm

Oops, sorry I thought it was new.

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Post by mjf314 » July 25th, 2020, 4:45 pm

I don't think the Caiman list had been posted yet on this forum, and it's not on iCM. Does anyone want to add it?

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Post by zhangalan » July 25th, 2020, 4:56 pm

From the Caiman magazine Angel sent me, I just realize there are also end-of-decade polls conducted by Positif and Sight and Sound.
I can't find the S&S poll online, but here is the Positif poll result.
www.facebook.com/Revue.Positif/posts/10159538295124202/

Positif also seems to have a best-of-all-time poll in Issue 700.
http://www.revue-positif.net/n700.html

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Post by Angel Glez » July 25th, 2020, 6:45 pm

zhangalan wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 4:56 pm
From the Caiman magazine Angel sent me, I just realize there are also end-of-decade polls conducted by Positif and Sight and Sound.
I can't find the S&S poll online, but here is the Positif poll result.
www.facebook.com/Revue.Positif/posts/10159538295124202/
No S&S decade poll (actually it was the best films of 2019). I got Positif's ballots from a cinephage's buddy at DVDClassik.

Combining Cahiers+Positif+Inrockuptibles you can look at this very French point of view:
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1.Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011)
2.Holy Motors - Leos Carax, France, 2012
Phantom Thread - Paul Thomas Anderson, USA/UK, 2017
4.Twin Peaks: The Return (David Lynch, 2017)
5.Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives - Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Thailand/UK/France, 2010
6.The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick, USA, 2011
7.Blue Is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013)
8.Toni Erdmann - Maren Ade, Germany, 2016
9.Winter Sleep (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2014)
10.Li'l Quinquin (Bruno Dumont, 2014)
Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller, USA, 2015
The Image Book (Jean-Luc Godard. 2018)
13.Leviathan (Andrei Zvyagintsev, 2014)
ROMA - Alfonso Cuarón, Mexico, 2018
The Assassin - Hou Hsiao-hsien, Taiwan/China/Hong Kong, 2015
16.Carol - Todd Haynes, UK/USA, 2015
Son of Saul (László Nemes, 2015)
18.Amour (Michael Haneke, 2012)
Burning - Lee Chang-dong, South Korea, 2019
Mia Madre (Nanni Moretti, 2015)
Take Shelter (Jeff Nichols, 2011)
The Strange Case of Angelica - Manoel de Oliveira, Portugal, 2010
Under the Skin - Jonathan Glazer, UK/USA, 2014
24.Julieta (Pedro Almodovar, 2016)
Mysteries of Lisbon - Raúl Ruiz, Portugal/France, 2010
Parasite - Bong Joon-ho, South Korea, 2019
27.Bird People (Pascale Ferran)
Blue Jasmine (Woody Allen)
Bright Star (Jane Campion)
Cemetery of Splendor - Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Thailand/UK/France, 2015
Loveless (Andrei Zvyagintsev, 2017)
Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
Poetry - Lee Chang-dong, South Korea, 2011
The Ghost Writer (Roman Polanski, 2011)
36.4:44 Last Day on Earth (Abel Ferrara, 2011)
A Separation - Asghar Farhadi, Iran, 2011
An Elephant Sitting Still (Hu Bo, 2018)
Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
Inside Llewyn Davis - Joel & Ethan Coen, USA, 2013
Inside Out (Pete Docter, Ronnie Del Carmen, 2015)
Interstellar (Christopher Nolan, 2014)
Leto (Kirill Serebrennikov)
Mother (Bong Joon Ho, 2010)
Nostalgia for the Light (Patricio Guzman)
Stranger by the Lake - Alain Guiraudie, France, 2013
The Irishman (Martin Scorsese, 2019)
The Skin I Live In (Pedro Almodóvar, 2011)
The Social Network - David Fincher, USA, 2010
The Turin Horse - Béla Tarr & Agnes Hranitzky, Hungary, 2011

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Post by zhangalan » July 26th, 2020, 4:19 am

Angel Glez wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 6:45 pm
zhangalan wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 4:56 pm
From the Caiman magazine Angel sent me, I just realize there are also end-of-decade polls conducted by Positif and Sight and Sound.
I can't find the S&S poll online, but here is the Positif poll result.
www.facebook.com/Revue.Positif/posts/10159538295124202/
No S&S decade poll (actually it was the best films of 2019). I got Positif's ballots from a cinephage's buddy at DVDClassik.

Combining Cahiers+Positif+Inrockuptibles you can look at this very French point of view:
SpoilerShow
1.Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011)
2.Holy Motors - Leos Carax, France, 2012
Phantom Thread - Paul Thomas Anderson, USA/UK, 2017
4.Twin Peaks: The Return (David Lynch, 2017)
5.Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives - Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Thailand/UK/France, 2010
6.The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick, USA, 2011
7.Blue Is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013)
8.Toni Erdmann - Maren Ade, Germany, 2016
9.Winter Sleep (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2014)
10.Li'l Quinquin (Bruno Dumont, 2014)
Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller, USA, 2015
The Image Book (Jean-Luc Godard. 2018)
13.Leviathan (Andrei Zvyagintsev, 2014)
ROMA - Alfonso Cuarón, Mexico, 2018
The Assassin - Hou Hsiao-hsien, Taiwan/China/Hong Kong, 2015
16.Carol - Todd Haynes, UK/USA, 2015
Son of Saul (László Nemes, 2015)
18.Amour (Michael Haneke, 2012)
Burning - Lee Chang-dong, South Korea, 2019
Mia Madre (Nanni Moretti, 2015)
Take Shelter (Jeff Nichols, 2011)
The Strange Case of Angelica - Manoel de Oliveira, Portugal, 2010
Under the Skin - Jonathan Glazer, UK/USA, 2014
24.Julieta (Pedro Almodovar, 2016)
Mysteries of Lisbon - Raúl Ruiz, Portugal/France, 2010
Parasite - Bong Joon-ho, South Korea, 2019
27.Bird People (Pascale Ferran)
Blue Jasmine (Woody Allen)
Bright Star (Jane Campion)
Cemetery of Splendor - Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Thailand/UK/France, 2015
Loveless (Andrei Zvyagintsev, 2017)
Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
Poetry - Lee Chang-dong, South Korea, 2011
The Ghost Writer (Roman Polanski, 2011)
36.4:44 Last Day on Earth (Abel Ferrara, 2011)
A Separation - Asghar Farhadi, Iran, 2011
An Elephant Sitting Still (Hu Bo, 2018)
Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
Inside Llewyn Davis - Joel & Ethan Coen, USA, 2013
Inside Out (Pete Docter, Ronnie Del Carmen, 2015)
Interstellar (Christopher Nolan, 2014)
Leto (Kirill Serebrennikov)
Mother (Bong Joon Ho, 2010)
Nostalgia for the Light (Patricio Guzman)
Stranger by the Lake - Alain Guiraudie, France, 2013
The Irishman (Martin Scorsese, 2019)
The Skin I Live In (Pedro Almodóvar, 2011)
The Social Network - David Fincher, USA, 2010
The Turin Horse - Béla Tarr & Agnes Hranitzky, Hungary, 2011
Oh I see.
I've found the posts you mention at DVDClassik. Still, the French lists don't have many surprises.


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Post by Ebbywebby » July 26th, 2020, 10:10 pm

zhangalan wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 10:15 am
Toshio Matsumoto's Best Avant-Garde Films
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/zhangala ... ilms-1993/
I haven't heard of "Heute Nacht oder nie" before...only two ICM checks! And "La Paloma" too. Then I look up the latter and find it's the same director. Ahh.
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Post by flavo5000 » July 26th, 2020, 10:18 pm

I added a handful of filmographies that seemed to be a little tricky to navigate on ICM. Maybe someone will find them useful:
Curtis Harrington Complete Filmography
D.A. Pennebaker Filmography
Nobuhiko Ôbayashi Complete Filmography
José Ramón Larraz Complete Filmography

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Post by Ebbywebby » July 26th, 2020, 11:08 pm

flavo5000 wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 10:18 pm
I added a handful of filmographies that seemed to be a little tricky to navigate on ICM. Maybe someone will find them useful:
Curtis Harrington Complete Filmography
D.A. Pennebaker Filmography
Nobuhiko Ôbayashi Complete Filmography
José Ramón Larraz Complete Filmography
I "updated" a few films on that Obayashi list, and now they properly credit him as the director. People aren't taking advantage of the newly available "Update info" function enough yet!

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Post by max-scl » July 27th, 2020, 12:59 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 11:08 pm
flavo5000 wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 10:18 pm
I added a handful of filmographies that seemed to be a little tricky to navigate on ICM. Maybe someone will find them useful:
Curtis Harrington Complete Filmography
D.A. Pennebaker Filmography
Nobuhiko Ôbayashi Complete Filmography
José Ramón Larraz Complete Filmography
I "updated" a few films on that Obayashi list, and now they properly credit him as the director. People aren't taking advantage of the newly available "Update info" function enough yet!
What does that do?

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Post by Ebbywebby » July 27th, 2020, 2:06 am

max-scl wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 12:59 am
Ebbywebby wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 11:08 pm
flavo5000 wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 10:18 pm
I added a handful of filmographies that seemed to be a little tricky to navigate on ICM. Maybe someone will find them useful:
Curtis Harrington Complete Filmography
D.A. Pennebaker Filmography
Nobuhiko Ôbayashi Complete Filmography
José Ramón Larraz Complete Filmography
I "updated" a few films on that Obayashi list, and now they properly credit him as the director. People aren't taking advantage of the newly available "Update info" function enough yet!
What does that do?
If a film's ICM page is missing a data field like Runtime, Director, AKA, Genre, etc. and the film's IMDb page is NOT, "updating" will make the ICM page match the more complete IMDb info.

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Post by flavo5000 » July 27th, 2020, 2:33 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 2:06 am
max-scl wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 12:59 am
Ebbywebby wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 11:08 pm


I "updated" a few films on that Obayashi list, and now they properly credit him as the director. People aren't taking advantage of the newly available "Update info" function enough yet!
What does that do?
If a film's ICM page is missing a data field like Runtime, Director, AKA, Genre, etc. and the film's IMDb page is NOT, "updating" will make the ICM page match the more complete IMDb info.
The update only seems to be reflected in the beta version. Does the current version of the page have some sort of cache that has to be cleared locally or server-side?

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Post by max-scl » July 27th, 2020, 2:37 am

Does it work for posters update?

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Post by Ebbywebby » July 27th, 2020, 3:21 am

max-scl wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 2:37 am
Does it work for posters update?
I think I was told updating posters does NOT work.

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Post by Ebbywebby » July 27th, 2020, 3:29 am

flavo5000 wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 2:33 am
The update only seems to be reflected in the beta version.
Well, I've updated a ridiculous number of runtimes in recent weeks. And in beta, there are about 3967 pages of films still without runtimes. In the standard version (with 25 titles per page instead of 50), there are about 7933 pages. So the math pretty much checks out.

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Post by Fergenaprido » July 27th, 2020, 5:59 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 3:29 am
flavo5000 wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 2:33 am
The update only seems to be reflected in the beta version.
Well, I've updated a ridiculous number of runtimes in recent weeks. And in beta, there are about 3967 pages of films still without runtimes. In the standard version (with 25 titles per page instead of 50), there are about 7933 pages. So the math pretty much checks out.
The updated information reflects immediately in beta, for but director and genre they take 10-15 minutes to show up on the regular version. Runtime and rating should show up immediately there as well, though.

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Post by flavo5000 » July 27th, 2020, 1:35 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 5:59 am
Ebbywebby wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 3:29 am
flavo5000 wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 2:33 am
The update only seems to be reflected in the beta version.
Well, I've updated a ridiculous number of runtimes in recent weeks. And in beta, there are about 3967 pages of films still without runtimes. In the standard version (with 25 titles per page instead of 50), there are about 7933 pages. So the math pretty much checks out.
The updated information reflects immediately in beta, for but director and genre they take 10-15 minutes to show up on the regular version. Runtime and rating should show up immediately there as well, though.
Huh... So does the beta and standard actually pull from two different databases? Or is there just a back-end process that clears the cache on the standard version that isn't necessary on the beta due to a more modern tech stack that auto-flushes the cache?

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Post by Fergenaprido » July 27th, 2020, 2:29 pm

I believe it's the latter, that the back-end process is different on the two versions but they source from the same database.

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Post by Angel Glez » July 30th, 2020, 9:26 am

10 Greatest Portuguese Films Ever

Individual ballots are also available, all but 5 secret ballots. Could any Portuguese speaker ask for those anonymous ballots to make a proper ranking?

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Post by mjf314 » July 30th, 2020, 2:23 pm

Here's the full list, not counting the secret ballots. I noticed that they ranked Aniki-Bóbó higher than Belarmino, despite Belarmino having 6 more votes in the non-secret ballots. Maybe they used a point system?
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1. Os Verdes Anos (1963) (49 votes)
2. Tabu (2012) (35 votes)
3. Recordações da Casa Amarela (1989) (33 votes)
4. Belarmino (1964) (22 votes)
5. Aniki-Bóbó (1942) (16 votes)
6. A Comédia de Deus (1995) (14 votes)
6. Alice (2005) (14 votes)
6. As Mil e Uma Noites (2015) (14 votes)
6. Sangue do Meu Sangue (2011) (14 votes)
6. Vale Abraão (1993) (14 votes)
11. No Quarto da Vanda (2000) (13 votes)
11. Os Mutantes (1998) (13 votes)
13. O Sangue (1989) (10 votes)
14. A Canção de Lisboa (1933) (8 votes)
14. Cavalo Dinheiro (2014) (8 votes)
14. Trás-os-Montes (1976) (8 votes)
17. A Herdade (2019) (7 votes)
17. Aquele Querido Mês de Agosto (2008) (7 votes)
17. Vitalina Varela (2019) (7 votes)
20. Non', ou a Vã Glória de Mandar (1990) (6 votes)
20. Pára-me de Repente o Pensamento (2014) (6 votes)
22. A Fábrica de Nada (2017) (5 votes)
22. Acto da Primavera (1963) (5 votes)
22. Diamantino (2018) (5 votes)
22. São Jorge (2016) (5 votes)
26. Cartas da Guerra (2016) (4 votes)
26. Douro, Faina Fluvial (1931) (4 votes)
26. E Agora? Lembra-me (2013) (4 votes)
26. Juventude em Marcha (2006) (4 votes)
26. Maria do Mar (1930) (4 votes)
26. Noite Escura (2004) (4 votes)
26. O Fantasma (2000) (4 votes)
26. O Lugar do Morto (1984) (4 votes)
26. O Passado e o Presente (1972) (4 votes)
26. Ossos (1997) (4 votes)
26. Variações (2018) (4 votes)
37. A Caixa (1994) (3 votes)
37. Casa de Lava (1994) (3 votes)
37. Jaime (1974) (3 votes)
37. José e Pilar (2010) (3 votes)
37. O Bobo (1987) (3 votes)
37. O Pai Tirano (1941) (3 votes)
37. Uma Abelha na Chuva (1972) (3 votes)
37. Vai e Vem (2003) (3 votes)
45. A Caça (1963) (2 votes)
45. A Outra Margem (2007) (2 votes)
45. A Promessa (1973) (2 votes)
45. A Suspeita (1999) (2 votes)
45. A Toca do Lobo (2015) (2 votes)
45. Adão & Eva (1995) (2 votes)
45. Amor de Perdição (1978) (2 votes)
45. Capitão Falcão (2015) (2 votes)
45. Cinco Dias, Cinco Noites (1995) (2 votes)
45. Coisa Ruim (2006) (2 votes)
45. Domingo à Tarde (1966) (2 votes)
45. Filme do Desassossego (2010) (2 votes)
45. Florbela (2012) (2 votes)
45. Ganhar a Vida (2001) (2 votes)
45. Kilas, O Mau da Fita (1980) (2 votes)
45. Mal Nascida (2007) (2 votes)
45. Mistérios de Lisboa (2010) (2 votes)
45. Morrer Como Um Homem (2009) (2 votes)
45. Mudar de Vida (1966) (2 votes)
45. O Barão (2011) (2 votes)
45. O Leão da Estrela (1947) (2 votes)
45. O Movimento das Coisas (1985) (2 votes)
45. O Rio do Ouro (1998) (2 votes)
45. Os Canibais (1988) (2 votes)
45. Os Maias (2014) (2 votes)
45. Uma Pedra no Bolso (1988) (2 votes)
45. Viagem ao Princípio do Mundo (1997) (2 votes)
45. Vou Para Casa (2001) (2 votes)
45. Xavier (1992) (2 votes)
74. A Árvore (2018) (1 votes)
74. A Balada da Praia dos Cães (1987) (1 votes)
74. A Canção da Terra (1938) (1 votes)
74. A Dança dos Paroxismos (1929) (1 votes)
74. À Flor do Mar (1986) (1 votes)
74. A Gaiola Dourada (2013) (1 votes)
74. A Ilha dos Amores (1982) (1 votes)
74. A Janela (Maryalva Mix) (2001) (1 votes)
74. A Mãe É que Sabe (2016) (1 votes)
74. A Metamorfose dos Pássaros (2020) (1 votes)
74. A Mulher do Próximo (1988) (1 votes)
74. A Nau Catrineta (1949) (1 votes)
74. Adeus, Até ao Meu Regresso (1974) (1 votes)
74. Adeus, Pai (1996) (1 votes)
74. Agosto (1988) (1 votes)
74. Agouro (2018) (1 votes)
74. Ama-san (2016) (1 votes)
74. Amor de Perdição (1943) (1 votes)
74. Amor Fati (2020) (1 votes)
74. Ana (1982) (1 votes)
74. Anteu (2018) (1 votes)
74. Arena (2009) (1 votes)
74. As Duas Faces da Guerra (2007) (1 votes)
74. As Horas de Maria (1976) (1 votes)
74. Balada da Praia dos Cães (1987) (1 votes)
74. Benilde ou a Virgem Mãe (1975) (1 votes)
74. Bom Povo Português (1980) (1 votes)
74. Branca de Neve (2001) (1 votes)
74. Brandos Costumes (1975) (1 votes)
74. Capitães de Abril (2000) (1 votes)
74. Chá Forte Com Limão (1993) (1 votes)
74. Chaimite (1953) (1 votes)
74. Chuva é Cantoria na Aldeia dos Mortos (2018) (1 votes)
74. Cinzento e Negro (2015) (1 votes)
74. Crónica dos Bons Malandros (1984) (1 votes)
74. Duma Vez Por Todas (1987) (1 votes)
74. Eldorado XXI (2015) (1 votes)
74. Esquece Tudo o que Te Disse (2002) (1 votes)
74. Estória do Gato e da Lua (1995) (1 votes)
74. Fado do Homem Crescido (2012) (1 votes)
74. Francisca (1981) (1 votes)
74. Fuligem (2014) (1 votes)
74. Gentes da Praia de Vieira (1976) (1 votes)
74. Jaime (1999) (1 votes)
74. João Bénard da Costa: Outros Amarão as Coisas que Eu Amei (2014) (1 votes)
74. Les Extraordinaires Mésaventures de la Jeune Fille de Pierre (2019) (1 votes)
74. Linhas de Wellington (2012) (1 votes)
74. Lisboetas (2004) (1 votes)
74. Marçano Precisa-se (1962) (1 votes)
74. Mariphasa (2017) (1 votes)
74. Mortinho Por Chegar a Casa (1996) (1 votes)
74. Mosquito (2020) (1 votes)
74. Ne Change Rien (2009) (1 votes)
74. No Dia dos Meus Anos (1992) (1 votes)
74. Nós Por Cá Todos Bem (1977) (1 votes)
74. Nuvem (1991) (1 votes)
74. O Cântico das Criaturas (2006) (1 votes)
74. O Cerco (1970) (1 votes)
74. O Crime da Aldeia Velha (1964) (1 votes)
74. O Espinho da Rosa (2013) (1 votes)
74. O Estranho Caso de Angélica (2010) (1 votes)
74. O Fio do Horizonte (1993) (1 votes)
74. O Gebo e a Sombra (2012) (1 votes)
74. O Mal-Amado (1973) (1 votes)
74. O Massacre dos Inocentes (2003) (1 votes)
74. O Que Arde Cura (2012) (1 votes)
74. O Recado (1972) (1 votes)
74. O Táxi 9297 (1927) (1 votes)
74. Odete (2005) (1 votes)
74. Onde Jaz o Teu Sorriso? (2001) (1 votes)
74. Os Gatos Não Têm Vertigens (2014) (1 votes)
74. Os Imortais (2003) (1 votes)
74. Os Salteadores (1993) (1 votes)
74. Passeio com Johnny Guitar (1996) (1 votes)
74. Passeio de Domingo (2009) (1 votes)
74. Peixe-Lua (2000) (1 votes)
74. Porto da Minha Infância (2001) (1 votes)
74. Purpleboy (2019) (1 votes)
74. Quem Vai à Guerra (2011) (1 votes)
74. Rapace (2006) (1 votes)
74. Rita ou Rito?... (1927) (1 votes)
74. Ruínas (2010) (1 votes)
74. Saltimbancos (1951) (1 votes)
74. Silvestre (1981) (1 votes)
74. Sofia e a Educação Sexual (1973) (1 votes)
74. Tempo Comum (2018) (1 votes)
74. Tio Tomás, A Contabilidade Dos Dias (2019) (1 votes)
74. Torre Bela (1975) (1 votes)
74. Três Dias Sem Deus (1946) (1 votes)
74. Um Adeus Português (1986) (1 votes)
74. Uma Vida Normal (1994) (1 votes)
74. Verão Danado (2017) (1 votes)
74. Veredas (1977) (1 votes)
74. Visita ou Memórias e Confissões (2015) (1 votes)
74. Yama no Anata - Para Além das Montanhas (2011) (1 votes)
74. Zona J (1998) (1 votes)

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Post by dirty_score » July 30th, 2020, 3:36 pm

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10 Greatest Portuguese Films Ever

Individual ballots are also available, all but 5 secret ballots. Could any Portuguese speaker ask for those anonymous ballots to make a proper ranking?
I've sent them a email requesting the top5's from the 10 anonymous voters.

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Post by tommy_leazaq » August 7th, 2020, 7:30 pm

Is this list available in ICM?

Mubi Top 1000: https://mubi.com/lists/the-top-1000

I see couple of Mubi lists but they are not 1000. Its a reputed site and list is regularly updated, so lot of new movies can appear unlike the couple of static 1000+ lists. May be contender for adoption? has it ever appeared in the nomination foe list adoption?

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Post by Onderhond » August 7th, 2020, 8:18 pm

https://letterboxd.com/sheev/list/mubi-top-1000/

Could be a tip for people (though I think only with a Pro account). Clone the list, export it, import in ICM?

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Post by dirty_score » August 7th, 2020, 8:32 pm

Empire published some days ago The 50 Greatest Teen Movies. I don't think it was added to ICM.

I wasn't expecting to see Twilight on it! Regarding the list, it's not a bad list per se, it's just like the way we've been discussing the kids lists, you have to look at this list with the eyes of a teenager. And most teenagers usually go for english spoken movies and the most recent (where teens "interact" with their smartphones). Perhaps go for some "older" flicks from the 80's or 90's (the oldest movie is Rebel Without A Cause).

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 8th, 2020, 9:27 am

tommy_leazaq wrote:
August 7th, 2020, 7:30 pm
Is this list available in ICM?

Mubi Top 1000: https://mubi.com/lists/the-top-1000

I see couple of Mubi lists but they are not 1000. Its a reputed site and list is regularly updated, so lot of new movies can appear unlike the couple of static 1000+ lists. May be contender for adoption? has it ever appeared in the nomination foe list adoption?
I think the biggest hurdle to adding it to icm is that the list updates daily (if not more frequently), so keeping the list up-to-date would be a challenge unless there was a way to script it. Even the display method on Mubi is ineffective for list-making, because it only loads 48 films at a time, so you have keep scrolling and loading to get the full list.
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August 7th, 2020, 8:18 pm
https://letterboxd.com/sheev/list/mubi-top-1000/

Could be a tip for people (though I think only with a Pro account). Clone the list, export it, import in ICM?
That could work. That list hasn't been updated in 25 days, so I don't know how frequently they update it. For icm purposes, daily would be ideal, but I think once a week or once a month would be more practical, especially if it has to be done manually.

In terms of this being adopted as official.... I don't know. It'd be the first mega list that I have a bronze on (though just barely, and having a Mubi subscription obviously helps), but the volatility of the list is a bit of a drawback for me for a list so large: You regularly see films currently featured on Mubi rise up and then down the ranks in rapid succession. And while Mubi is an amazing website with a great streaming service, I'm not too familiar with the userbase, and having 1000 films from there, but only 100 or 250 from every other film-user site/forum seems a bit disproportionate to me.

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 8th, 2020, 9:31 am

dirty_score wrote:
August 7th, 2020, 8:32 pm
Empire published some days ago The 50 Greatest Teen Movies. I don't think it was added to ICM.

I wasn't expecting to see Twilight on it! Regarding the list, it's not a bad list per se, it's just like the way we've been discussing the kids lists, you have to look at this list with the eyes of a teenager. And most teenagers usually go for english spoken movies and the most recent (where teens "interact" with their smartphones). Perhaps go for some "older" flicks from the 80's or 90's (the oldest movie is Rebel Without A Cause).
Interesting list. I'll add it to icm so we can compare it to other teen lists we've found.

And while most English-speaking teenagers go for English-speaking movies, I don't think that's necessarily true of other languages. This list definitely skews American/British, and personally I'd prefer something that acknowledges that there are teens worldwide (even though I love a lot of films on that list).

And the oldest movie being Rebel Without a Cause makes sense, as it's often cited as the first "teen" movie.

Edit: Here's the list: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/empi ... genaprido/

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Post by Onderhond » August 8th, 2020, 11:37 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 8th, 2020, 9:27 am
In terms of this being adopted as official.... I don't know. It'd be the first mega list that I have a bronze on (though just barely, and having a Mubi subscription obviously helps), but the volatility of the list is a bit of a drawback for me for a list so large: You regularly see films currently featured on Mubi rise up and then down the ranks in rapid succession. And while Mubi is an amazing website with a great streaming service, I'm not too familiar with the userbase, and having 1000 films from there, but only 100 or 250 from every other film-user site/forum seems a bit disproportionate to me.
Haven't gone through the entire list, so it might be more interesting at the bottom, but looking at the top 100 it offers very little over the other big lists. I'm at 562 (which is slightly higher than most other 1000-entry lists on ICM, so I guess it's slightly more tilted towards modern cinema, but doesn't sound like it would add very much.

Also, doesn't look like you can export from Letterboxd? That'd be a bummer.

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Post by mjf314 » August 8th, 2020, 12:45 pm

Onderhond wrote:
August 7th, 2020, 8:18 pm
https://letterboxd.com/sheev/list/mubi-top-1000/

Could be a tip for people (though I think only with a Pro account). Clone the list, export it, import in ICM?
But then what do we do if this Letterboxd user stops updating the list?

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 8th, 2020, 12:50 pm

Onderhond wrote:
August 8th, 2020, 11:37 am
Also, doesn't look like you can export from Letterboxd? That'd be a bummer.
Currently, you can only export your entire user data, which includes films, reviews, lists, and other things. I tried it a month or two ago, but the format it exports is useless for these purposes because it doesn't include the imdb url or ttid (or even the tmdb url), sadly.

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Post by Onderhond » August 8th, 2020, 1:41 pm

mjf314 wrote:
August 8th, 2020, 12:45 pm
But then what do we do if this Letterboxd user stops updating the list?
I think the bulk of the work is creating a 1000-entry list, updating it once a month sounds doable. And as long as someone on Letterboxd keeps the list in check, it's virtually no work, so that's an extra win.

But yeah, if it can't be exported, it's not much use.

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Post by tommy_leazaq » August 8th, 2020, 7:47 pm

Thanks Onderhond and Fergenaprido for your responses.

I guess the list is updated weekly as mentioned in the site.
Also, I think this is the latest list in Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/troyano_ag/list/ ... -top-1000/

I agree loading only partial films at a time in the source is very annoying.

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