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OK so it's time for us all to have a little laugh...if anyone can find a lamer, safer, duller list from a major filmmaker, please share it. In the meantime here's

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/steven-spi ... ilms-list/

There's not much to the article so here's the list:

1. It’s a Wonderful Life – Frank Capra (1946)
2. The Godfather – Francis Ford Coppola (1972)
3. Fantasia -Walt Disney (1940)
4. A Guy Named Joe – Victor Fleming (1943)
5. Guardians of the Galaxy – James Gunn (2014)
6. War of the Worlds – Byron Haskin (1953)
7. Psycho – Alfred Hitchcock (1960)
8. 2001: A Space Odyssey – Stanley Kubrick (1968)
9. Lawrence of Arabia – David Lean (1962)
10. Untouchable – Olivier Nakache and Éric Toledano (2011)
11. The Dark Knight – Christopher Nolan (2008)
12. The 400 Blows – François Truffaut (1959)
13. Day for Night – François Truffaut (1973)
14. Citizen Kane – Orson Welles (1941)
15. Captains Courageous – Victor Fleming (1937)
16. The Best Years of Our Lives – William Wyler (1946)
17. The Searchers – John Ford (1956)
18. Tootsie – Sydney Pollack (1982)
19. Seven Samurai – Akira Kurosawa (1954)
20. Dumbo – Walt Disney (1941)
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LMAO uhhhh not far out that's for sure
even I got 12/ on that list
well at least he's got François Truffaut x2 there
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OldAle1 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 12:43 pm OK so it's time for us all to have a little laugh...if anyone can find a lamer, safer, duller list from a major filmmaker, please share it. In the meantime here's

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/steven-spi ... ilms-list/

There's not much to the article so here's the list:

1. It’s a Wonderful Life – Frank Capra (1946)
2. The Godfather – Francis Ford Coppola (1972)
3. Fantasia -Walt Disney (1940)
4. A Guy Named Joe – Victor Fleming (1943)
5. Guardians of the Galaxy – James Gunn (2014)
6. War of the Worlds – Byron Haskin (1953)
7. Psycho – Alfred Hitchcock (1960)
8. 2001: A Space Odyssey – Stanley Kubrick (1968)
9. Lawrence of Arabia – David Lean (1962)
10. Untouchable – Olivier Nakache and Éric Toledano (2011)
11. The Dark Knight – Christopher Nolan (2008)
12. The 400 Blows – François Truffaut (1959)
13. Day for Night – François Truffaut (1973)
14. Citizen Kane – Orson Welles (1941)
15. Captains Courageous – Victor Fleming (1937)
16. The Best Years of Our Lives – William Wyler (1946)
17. The Searchers – John Ford (1956)
18. Tootsie – Sydney Pollack (1982)
19. Seven Samurai – Akira Kurosawa (1954)
20. Dumbo – Walt Disney (1941)
That explains a lot.
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Ah, so this is the other soon official list for the Directors tab .. :thumbsup:
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Torgo wrote: April 8th, 2021, 5:25 pm Ah, so this is the other soon official list for the Directors tab .. :thumbsup:
Only if he expands it to a Top 50 :P

I don't think I've ever heard of A Guy Named Joe.
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Fergenaprido wrote: April 8th, 2021, 6:43 pm
Torgo wrote: April 8th, 2021, 5:25 pm Ah, so this is the other soon official list for the Directors tab .. :thumbsup:
Only if he expands it to a Top 50 :P

I don't think I've ever heard of A Guy Named Joe.
Spielberg remade that film himself, as Always (1989). Seen both original and remake once each, think I was fairly ambivalent about both but don't remember either anymore really. So two films on his list that he remade himself, and a lot of others that are fairly direct influences on him. Rather surprised that he doesn't have Pinocchio which I would argue has more influence on his filmography - including overt references in several of his films - than anything else.
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What's the other he remade?
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Armoreska wrote: April 8th, 2021, 7:12 pm What's the other he remade?
look at the list again. You'll get it.
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right, the new War of the Worlds was his. but not an adaptation of the movie tho, while Always is probably based on the film more than the source story
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Armoreska wrote: April 8th, 2021, 7:35 pm right, the new War of the Worlds was his. but not an adaptation of the movie tho, while Always is probably based on the film more than the source story
Yeah I couldn't comment as to that - I mean, I could go look it up on Wiki and follow some links and come up with a detailed answer as to why one film may be more "re-adaptation" and the other more "remake", but that's way too much work :lol:

I don't think Spielberg improved on Haskin's War of the Worlds at all, in fact in most regards I like it less, but what's really disappointing about all the adaptations that I know is that none of them even attempts to get at what the book is really about, which is colonialism. I guess allegory provokes allergy, at least when it comes to mainstream sci-fi adaptations.
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OldAle1 wrote: April 8th, 2021, 8:29 pm
Armoreska wrote: April 8th, 2021, 7:35 pm right, the new War of the Worlds was his. but not an adaptation of the movie tho, while Always is probably based on the film more than the source story
Yeah I couldn't comment as to that - I mean, I could go look it up on Wiki and follow some links and come up with a detailed answer as to why one film may be more "re-adaptation" and the other more "remake", but that's way too much work :lol:

I don't think Spielberg improved on Haskin's War of the Worlds at all, in fact in most regards I like it less, but what's really disappointing about all the adaptations that I know is that none of them even attempts to get at what the book is really about, which is colonialism. I guess allegory provokes allergy, at least when it comes to mainstream sci-fi adaptations.
Perhaps, but I would argue that the original radio broadcast is more famous than the book, and I imagine that film-wise the directors/creators are trying to capture that sensationalism that occurred when people thought there was a real invasion, as opposed to the more nuanced meanings in the text.

Also, didn't know about Always either, though I'm sure I was peripherally aware of it since it is Spielberg. That Top 20 list does feel more like a list of influences than a list of favourites, but who am I to critique Spielberg's choices? He likes what he likes. I'm sure my Top 20 looks just as bland and uninspired to many as his does. :shrug:
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Cool find; thanks for sharing!

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/goom ... genaprido/

It's an okay list for me - the writer's got a clear preference in the type of films he likes (even including some "co-productions" that I wouldn't personally consider Canadian), and the only outliers appear to be a few lesser known French films (which makes sense if he's from/based in Montréal) and a few underseen queer films. Still, it's always nice to add another Canuck list to my collection. I've got more unseen on this list (27) than the official TIFF one (13), despite this one having 54 films fewer.

I hope you don't mind that I keep adding lists that you post to icm. If you want to add them yourself, just let me know and I can remove them.
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2nd list today where Stories We Tell jumps at me as my dislike.
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Voting: http://dahf.dk/viewtopic.php?t=41023
Results: http://dahf.dk/viewtopic.php?t=41089
DAHF Forum's Top 30 Danish Films (2012 poll)

An IMDb list is available here in case anyone wants to add it to iCM: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls008207028/
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mjf314 wrote: April 10th, 2021, 5:14 am Voting: http://dahf.dk/viewtopic.php?t=41023
Results: http://dahf.dk/viewtopic.php?t=41089
DAHF Forum's Top 30 Danish Films (2012 poll)

An IMDb list is available here in case anyone wants to add it to iCM: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls008207028/
Sure: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/dahf ... genaprido/
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Fergenaprido wrote: April 9th, 2021, 10:26 pm I hope you don't mind that I keep adding lists that you post to icm. If you want to add them yourself, just let me know and I can remove them.
I don't mind, actually, I'm quite lazy when it comes to adding lists to ICM. It's a bit of a chore to me. :sleeping:
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https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/

Well, no one else dood it. So I dood it. The monthly updates may be more of a pain than I imagine, but I've committed myself. If anything needs to be tweaked, let me know. Some fiddling with the ICM database was required in assembling the list -- 15 or so films weren't imported from IMDb yet, and a solid number of included films needed an ICM update due to either missing directors, missing runtimes, missing AKAs or AKAs that didn't match IMDb.

Hopefully, some of those missing films (all shorts, I think?) will get added to IMDb in the future. So many of them look mediocre and skippable that I'm not frantic to do the labor myself.

At this point, I've seen 622 films from the first half and 623 from the second. Consistent! And when I decided to start a second list after the first 1,200 items, I had no idea that the split would turn out almost dead even.
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 12th, 2021, 6:53 am https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/

Well, no one else dood it. So I dood it. The monthly updates may be more of a pain than I imagine, but I've committed myself. If anything needs to be tweaked, let me know. Some fiddling with the ICM database was required in assembling the list -- 15 or so films weren't imported from IMDb yet, and a solid number of included films needed an ICM update due to either missing directors, missing runtimes, missing AKAs or AKAs that didn't match IMDb.

Hopefully, some of those missing films (all shorts, I think?) will get added to IMDb in the future. So many of them look mediocre and skippable that I'm not frantic to do the labor myself.

At this point, I've seen 622 films from the first half and 623 from the second. Consistent! And when I decided to start a second list after the first 1,200 items, I had no idea that the split would turn out almost dead even.
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 12th, 2021, 6:53 am https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ebbywebby/

Well, no one else dood it. So I dood it. The monthly updates may be more of a pain than I imagine, but I've committed myself. If anything needs to be tweaked, let me know. Some fiddling with the ICM database was required in assembling the list -- 15 or so films weren't imported from IMDb yet, and a solid number of included films needed an ICM update due to either missing directors, missing runtimes, missing AKAs or AKAs that didn't match IMDb.

Hopefully, some of those missing films (all shorts, I think?) will get added to IMDb in the future. So many of them look mediocre and skippable that I'm not frantic to do the labor myself.

At this point, I've seen 622 films from the first half and 623 from the second. Consistent! And when I decided to start a second list after the first 1,200 items, I had no idea that the split would turn out almost dead even.
This is awesome! Thank you so much for doing this. :cheers:
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Just added to ICM: Mad Movies Magazine's 100 Films de Genre à (Re)Découvrir from their 2019 book.
Mad Movies is a French cinema magazine created in 1972 and specializing from its inception in fantastic cinema. It deals with all trends in genre cinema: fantasy, science fiction, horror and thriller.
Fans of those genres will have plenty to like here :thumbsup:
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I did a double-take. I thought you were referring to Mad Magazine for a moment.
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dirty_score wrote: April 17th, 2021, 10:20 am Just added to ICM: Mad Movies Magazine's 100 Films de Genre à (Re)Découvrir from their 2019 book.
Mad Movies is a French cinema magazine created in 1972 and specializing from its inception in fantastic cinema. It deals with all trends in genre cinema: fantasy, science fiction, horror and thriller.
Fans of those genres will have plenty to like here :thumbsup:
That's a very nice list alright. With actual genre films too!
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just added to ICM Fairfax Media's Best New Zealand Movies of All Time based on a 2014 poll.
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dirty_score wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 8:47 pm just added to ICM Fairfax Media's Best New Zealand Movies of All Time based on a 2014 poll.
That actually looks like a good New Zealand list. Potential adoption candidate?
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A 2014 poll! Taika must be furious. 100% inclusion auto-missed.

Onderhond wrote: April 17th, 2021, 2:25 pm
dirty_score wrote: April 17th, 2021, 10:20 am Just added to ICM: Mad Movies Magazine's 100 Films de Genre à (Re)Découvrir from their 2019 book.
Mad Movies is a French cinema magazine created in 1972 and specializing from its inception in fantastic cinema. It deals with all trends in genre cinema: fantasy, science fiction, horror and thriller.
Fans of those genres will have plenty to like here :thumbsup:
That's a very nice list alright. With actual genre films too!
Serious question: How do you define an actual genre film? As little mainstream and conventional tropes as possible? Uncompromising to the genre rules?
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Torgo wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 9:47 pm A 2014 poll! Taika must be furious. 100% inclusion auto-missed.

Onderhond wrote: April 17th, 2021, 2:25 pm
dirty_score wrote: April 17th, 2021, 10:20 am Just added to ICM: Mad Movies Magazine's 100 Films de Genre à (Re)Découvrir from their 2019 book.



Fans of those genres will have plenty to like here :thumbsup:
That's a very nice list alright. With actual genre films too!
Serious question: How do you define an actual genre film? As little mainstream and conventional tropes as possible? Uncompromising to the genre rules?
Conversely, what is a genre-less film?
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dirty_score wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 8:47 pm just added to ICM Fairfax Media's Best New Zealand Movies of All Time based on a 2014 poll.
Interesting find. I've seen the Top 50 list from all voters before, but never bothered to look at the breakdown lists of critics. Seems like they're non-ranked submissions. And it looks like there's enough information online that I can add Someone Else's Country to imdb for you.
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Torgo wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 9:47 pm Serious question: How do you define an actual genre film? As little mainstream and conventional tropes as possible? Uncompromising to the genre rules?
Definitions are hard, especially when people are looking for outlier films to contradict your definition, but since you seem to be asking your question in good fate:

I guess these are the films that put their main focus on delivering those elements people traditionally expect from said genre. Films that forgo originality, prestige actors, character depth and other trademark qualities of "good cinema" in order to cut to chase as quickly as possible. That usually means making good use of clichés as shortcuts to establish settings and expectations (you know, start a horror flick with a shot from a car driving on a bendy road up a mountain/in a forest - just that one shot gives you pretty much the rest of the film, or the family arriving at their newly bought house - haunting ahoy). This leaves way more time for the director to focus more on the actual horror bits.

Usually there are some other traits, like lower budgets, focus on purer entertainment. That definition also leaves enough room to go beyond the traditional horror/sci-fi/fantasy/action films, and could just as well apply to romcoms, westerns, comedy, musicals, ...
flavo5000 wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 10:02 pm Conversely, what is a genre-less film?
I don't think the semantics work that way in this case :)
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https://in.ign.com/feature/155628/vote- ... ie-madness
https://www.ign.com/articles/super-movie-madness-voting

This was a series of polls on IGN to decide the best superhero movies. They ran the polls last month. They started with a bracket of 64 movies, but I'm not sure exactly how they chose those 64 movies.
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Fergenaprido wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 10:04 pm
dirty_score wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 8:47 pm just added to ICM Fairfax Media's Best New Zealand Movies of All Time based on a 2014 poll.
Interesting find. I've seen the Top 50 list from all voters before, but never bothered to look at the breakdown lists of critics. Seems like they're non-ranked submissions. And it looks like there's enough information online that I can add Someone Else's Country to imdb for you.
Thanks, since you're still at it, the other one also has information: NZIFF or :letbxd: Asylum Pieces

Let me know when I can add them :)
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Torgo wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 9:47 pm A 2014 poll! Taika must be furious. 100% inclusion auto-missed.
It probably wasn't seen by the time the poll was made. For what it's worth, there's 2 Taika movies in the list.
Fergenaprido wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 10:04 pm Interesting find. I've seen the Top 50 list from all voters before, but never bothered to look at the breakdown lists of critics.
Oh, at first I was looking at the top50 and it seemed a cool list but then I saw Lord of the Rings and then... Avatar and I was like :mw_confused:

Interestingly enough, Avatar sequels are getting their money so that's why.
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flavo5000 wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 9:43 pm
dirty_score wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 8:47 pm just added to ICM Fairfax Media's Best New Zealand Movies of All Time based on a 2014 poll.
That actually looks like a good New Zealand list. Potential adoption candidate?
Safe to say that anyone can use it as a guide for the Oceania challenge in December :P
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dirty_score wrote: April 24th, 2021, 9:46 am
Fergenaprido wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 10:04 pm
dirty_score wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 8:47 pm just added to ICM Fairfax Media's Best New Zealand Movies of All Time based on a 2014 poll.
Interesting find. I've seen the Top 50 list from all voters before, but never bothered to look at the breakdown lists of critics. Seems like they're non-ranked submissions. And it looks like there's enough information online that I can add Someone Else's Country to imdb for you.
Thanks, since you're still at it, the other one also has information: NZIFF or :letbxd: Asylum Pieces

Let me know when I can add them :)
Here you go:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14518516/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/som ... s+country/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14518600/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/asylum+pieces/
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I found some 2010s Indian lists:

https://scroll.in/reel/947820/the-decad ... ifferently
Scroll.in's The decade in Bollywood: The movies that dared to dream differently
It's a top 27.

https://www.highonfilms.com/the-25-fine ... ade-2010s/
High On Films' The 25 Finest Hindi Films Of The Decade (2010s)

https://www.filmcompanion.in/fc-decades ... index.html
25 Greatest Films of the Decade
There's a top 25 list for each language (Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil, Kannada, Hindi), so 125 films in total, as well as a best scenes list and a best performances list.
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I just added this list to iCM: Flicks' The Greatest Australian Films of the 21st Century

Voted by 51 critics in 2018. It was originally a top 25. I expanded it to a top 50 using the same point system. The full list is available in this spreadsheet.
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I just added to ICM: Paste's The 100 Best Film Noirs of All Time

This could be a good introductory list instead of the actual one or just for you to watchlist it come Noirvember :guns:
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dirty_score wrote: April 28th, 2021, 4:35 pm I just added to ICM: Paste's The 100 Best Film Noirs of All Time

This could be a good introductory list instead of the actual one or just for you to watchlist it come Noirvember :guns:
Great! Thank you, dirty_score! Why not replace the current official top 100 with this one, since it just repeats the top 100 from the TSPDT top 1000 noirs which is also official?
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erde wrote: April 28th, 2021, 4:42 pm
dirty_score wrote: April 28th, 2021, 4:35 pm I just added to ICM: Paste's The 100 Best Film Noirs of All Time

This could be a good introductory list instead of the actual one or just for you to watchlist it come Noirvember :guns:
Great! Thank you, dirty_score! Why not replace the current official top 100 with this one, since it just repeats the top 100 from the TSPDT top 1000 noirs which is also official?
A few too many neos on that list for my taste, but I very much agree with that reasoning. We have the exact same 100 films official twice, another Top 100 than by TSP would be an easy solution. ;)
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