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mightysparks wrote: November 30th, 2020, 12:28 am The stupid teen reviews on Letterboxd are by far the thing I hate the most about it, but when I do read them I either filter by friends only or I skim to look for one that's at least a paragraph. It's pretty easy to ignore the social parts of the site if you follow the right people and ignore the 'popular' stuff.
What annoys me is when generic stuff like this gets to be one of the most popular "reviews" of the week:

"this was one of the most joyous experiences i’ve had all year and no i’m not joking in the slightest"

This was written by a user with 56k followers but could have been said on twitter by anyone about any movies they liked. Not the content I'm looking for on my main place for movies.

A website like mydramalist.com works much better as they divide reviews, comments and discussion topics in different sections:

https://mydramalist.com/2-1-litre-no-namida

This makes users try to put some thought in their reviews to write more than 2 lines. Also, it's a place where people have friends instead of followers and the main page shows the most recent reviews instead of the popular ones, so we don't have users competing for popularity.
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shugs wrote: November 30th, 2020, 11:36 am Yeah, My IMDb is pretty sweet as well. It's an extension that highlights movies you've rated on people's pages, I highly recommend it. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... hhmb?hl=en
I explore cinema by watching all or most movies from the same director. That extension gives me the rewarding feeling I had on lb when clicking on a director's page and seeing all watched titles as faded.
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I like the app myself and find it easier than looking up imdb for information.
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Another irritating thing about Letterboxd is the goofballs who follow you and then unfollow in a day or two if you don't follow back. Okay, fine, I don't want you anyway. You've seen 163 films, don't write reviews, and you managed to get 7000 followers by gaming the system. I'd rather have a small amount of legitimate followers who actually read what I have to say.
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That happened to me all the time. Gotta keep that number of people you follow under the number of followers to make you look cool! It's not about movie knowledge anymore.

Also, many users seem to be liking everything expecting some likes in return. I had to unfollow many users once my pro account was over as I couldn't filter anymore what showed up on my feed, in order to keep my activity as honest as possible. I can accept someone on fb scrolling down and liking every picture they see from their friends, but a review or a list takes its time to read. The helpful/not helpful feature of imdb can work better and the metacritic score allows me to give a quick look at the reviews by those big online magazines (I don't remember imdb having this before). There's no reason for the activity filter not to be a free feature, plus all the ads, lb is just forcing users to get a pro account as the website becomes ususable without one. But anyway, people can do whatever they want on lb. I also used to care until I stopped caring.

Btw, I realized how many of my ratings weren't movies but tv episodes or something else once I migrated all my ratings to imdb. All content with the exception of tv shows that got more than one season is a movie on lb and while I agree that many things can be seen as one, the information I get on imdb is much more accurate.
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So I just found out I could use adblock to hide not only ads, but pretty much everything else I didn't want to see.

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"Reviews" that are just something such as "liked" or "seen on Netflix" are taking laziness to a new level. Who fucking cares? :lol:
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They likely use that to complement the diary function of the website. It would work for them as well if they could add tags to their diary entries.
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kongs_speech wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 9:03 pm "Reviews" that are just something such as "liked" or "seen on Netflix" are taking laziness to a new level. Who fucking cares? :lol:
You can't set your profile to private, so people who just want to use Letterboxd as a personal online diary/database don't have any choice, so I wouldn't hold it against them. Not everything on there is meant for a social media-esque purpose.
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TraverseTown wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 11:10 pm
kongs_speech wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 9:03 pm "Reviews" that are just something such as "liked" or "seen on Netflix" are taking laziness to a new level. Who fucking cares? :lol:
You can't set your profile to private, so people who just want to use Letterboxd as a personal online diary/database don't have any choice, so I wouldn't hold it against them. Not everything on there is meant for a social media-esque purpose.
Yeah, I can see that, but it seems really pointless to me. What could it possibly matter if you saw something on Netflix? In the grand scheme of things, I couldn't give a flying fish where I saw a particular film, just that I saw it. Just posting "liked" is even more baffling ... Letterboxd already keeps track of all the films you like. If they added even one sentence about their opinion of the film, it wouldn't bother me. "Saw on Netflix. Not one of Sandler's best but I laughed a few times." That was easy.
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kongs_speech wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 11:15 pm
TraverseTown wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 11:10 pm
kongs_speech wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 9:03 pm "Reviews" that are just something such as "liked" or "seen on Netflix" are taking laziness to a new level. Who fucking cares? :lol:
You can't set your profile to private, so people who just want to use Letterboxd as a personal online diary/database don't have any choice, so I wouldn't hold it against them. Not everything on there is meant for a social media-esque purpose.
Yeah, I can see that, but it seems really pointless to me. What could it possibly matter if you saw something on Netflix? In the grand scheme of things, I couldn't give a flying fish where I saw a particular film, just that I saw it. Just posting "liked" is even more baffling ... Letterboxd already keeps track of all the films you like. If they added even one sentence about their opinion of the film, it wouldn't bother me. "Saw on Netflix. Not one of Sandler's best but I laughed a few times." That was easy.
Yeah, I definitely don't disagree. I do keep a list of everything I watch on the Criterion Channel for example, but I just keep track of that in a private list rather than in the diary/review section.
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TraverseTown wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 11:49 pm
kongs_speech wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 11:15 pm
TraverseTown wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 11:10 pm

You can't set your profile to private, so people who just want to use Letterboxd as a personal online diary/database don't have any choice, so I wouldn't hold it against them. Not everything on there is meant for a social media-esque purpose.
Yeah, I can see that, but it seems really pointless to me. What could it possibly matter if you saw something on Netflix? In the grand scheme of things, I couldn't give a flying fish where I saw a particular film, just that I saw it. Just posting "liked" is even more baffling ... Letterboxd already keeps track of all the films you like. If they added even one sentence about their opinion of the film, it wouldn't bother me. "Saw on Netflix. Not one of Sandler's best but I laughed a few times." That was easy.
Yeah, I definitely don't disagree. I do keep a list of everything I watch on the Criterion Channel for example, but I just keep track of that in a private list rather than in the diary/review section.
But users can already use the favourite feature if the "liked" a film, and the can use the tag feature to keep track of anything they saw on Netflix. Those are free features, not paid, so everyone can use them. I use a bunch of tags for my diary entries such as mubi, theatre, netflix, etc. to keep track of where I see some films.
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kongs_speech wrote: December 22nd, 2020, 9:03 pm "Reviews" that are just something such as "liked" or "seen on Netflix" are taking laziness to a new level. Who fucking cares? :lol:
Yeah... These are the most popular reviews of "The Haunting of Hill House":
"me during jumpscares:
me spotting a random ghost in the background: [falls off the sofa]"
"do you ever make an emotionally compelling, frightening and nuanced horror series just to flex on ryan murphy"
"this went the FUCK off and the 6th episode had a bunch of 15+ MINUTE LONG TAKES IN IT. MIKE FLANAGAN DIED FOR OUR SINS."
I went back to imdb for a while mostly for nostalgia just to find out that a new layout that I hated is coming soon. In the end I moved back to lb as hiding the stuff I didn't like about lb improved the site so much for me. :lol:

I also realized that lb seems to be having a lot more users rating on movies, especially on the newest movies. "On The Rocks" has 17k ratings on imdb and 38k ratings on lb. It gets even worse with non-popular movies. "Forgiven Children" has 22 miserable ratings (one of them is mine) on imdb and 157 on lb, that's 7x more people voting. Not everyone's favourite place to rate movies that it was a decade ago.

Anyway, this time off that I took from letterboxd made me find other things. The imdb homepage and app are pretty nice and I'll start using them for movie news, movie trailers, movie trivia, etc. Lb is still my main place for movies and it just has the best interface. For tv shows I use traktv because it allows me to track the progress in each of the tv shows I'm watching, which neither lb or imdb can do.
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There's a pretty huge difference in the quality of reviews depending on the popularity of the film. Look at the popular reviews for The Illusionist (2010, Sylvain Chomet), for instance. I guess all the cool woke A24 jokester kids aren't watching primarily dialogue-free French animation based on unproduced Jacques Tati scripts.
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Me, knowing that my most popular entry on Letterboxd is my one-sentence joke review of Mizoguchi's Ugetsu: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
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Mine is a bunch of ‘No’s’ for that Shriek film :P I don’t mind the occasional jokey review, it’s just that there are too many on the more popular films on LB and they’re usually not funny.
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Most of the reviews that I have liked are jokey ones. :unsure: I guess I am just adding to the problem, but if something makes me laugh, it's too easy to hit the Like button, e.g.:

https://letterboxd.com/kmeaston/film/gas-s-s-s/
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TraverseTown wrote: December 26th, 2020, 12:17 am Me, knowing that my most popular entry on Letterboxd is my one-sentence joke review of Mizoguchi's Ugetsu: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
My most popular review is actually a philosophical analysis of a Straub-Huilet film, lol. To be fair though, I'm not great at joke reviews :shrug:
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Is there any way to clear (not delete) an existing list? I want to re-import my Top 650, but all it does is add the new films, leaves the old ones there and doesn't adjust the ranking. And I don't really feel like manually deleting all the entries first :D
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I usually modify by imdb url and copy paste an 1 movie
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The Fantômas films have been merged into a single entry on TMDb, so they're going to follow on Letterboxd soon.

Kind of makes sense, though, doesn't it? IMDb has them as separate films, but Judex for instance, though a twelve-part serial, has just one entry on IMDb.

EDIT: Had a feeling I talked about this issue with serials before. I was right.
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At the moment, Letterboxd has three Fantômas instead of one or five. Screwing up my 2021 stats!
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What happened to the quest of adding all ICMForum lists to the icmforum account? I could offer help if it is needed
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Does anyone prefer Letterboxd to ICM here?
Are they still only good for reviews, ICM for lists (and IMDb import), Criticker for stats, IMDb for ratings, Moviemeter for...Dutch?

I'm thinking of moving some lists there and to other places for film/theme/even ICM's promotion sake.

LET ME KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY SHORTCUTS FOR ADDING LISTS THERE like scripts (probz not but who knows)
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moving lists from ICM to Letterboxd is very simple. Export CVS from the one and import in the other. (export cvs from ICM might only work if you are a paying member, not sure)

MovieMeter is just for Dutch, there was a large social aspect to it, but this has been in decline. It was also always the database I used to make lists with, but with their recent makeover this has become a bit harder sadly... the makeover also made some more members leave... my feeling is that it might have been the last straw for my MM crowd, their alternative now is maybe LB for their admin, and maybe ICMForum... although there isn't the same Dutch social aspect here (yet) with meetings, dvd lending and trades and so on, so don't expect the same crossover as with the Imdb boards (also MM is still there...)

Instead of Criticker I use another Dutch site (whatIwatch) for statistics, but that one is also dying, with a lot of people having moved over to LB

LB is however not offering the same experience as ICM when it comes to overview of lists and combinations of lists, so I don't think it is an alternative for that too
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ah, I can see the option now
I guess ICM Enhanced does that, tho I havent tried yet (it works! sorry, Marijn, I don't have a PayPal atm, it's crisis and I barely get by).
other than that, I think the best way would be to move to IMDb via List Helper and then export CSV from there and move to Letterboxd!

edit after failed import from ICM export:
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Oops… that didn’t work. Please check that your file is a valid Letterboxd import format.

info over there includes ICM
When importing data we support the following formats:
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Delicious Library v2 or 3 export files (XML)*
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kongs_speech wrote: November 29th, 2020, 7:50 pm 1) No adult films. I'm happy that they don't have TV shows. I wish limited series weren't even included. But they're missing some extremely relevant and important films that happen to be considered pornographic.
They're adding legitimate adult films soon ... which is another reason why the genre deserves an official ICM list. :D
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kongs_speech wrote: April 15th, 2021, 5:26 pm
kongs_speech wrote: November 29th, 2020, 7:50 pm 1) No adult films. I'm happy that they don't have TV shows. I wish limited series weren't even included. But they're missing some extremely relevant and important films that happen to be considered pornographic.
They're adding legitimate adult films soon ... which is another reason why the genre deserves an official ICM list. :D
Only long after adding a feminist list or preferably two!
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Armoreska wrote: April 15th, 2021, 5:44 pm
kongs_speech wrote: April 15th, 2021, 5:26 pm
kongs_speech wrote: November 29th, 2020, 7:50 pm 1) No adult films. I'm happy that they don't have TV shows. I wish limited series weren't even included. But they're missing some extremely relevant and important films that happen to be considered pornographic.
They're adding legitimate adult films soon ... which is another reason why the genre deserves an official ICM list. :D
Only long after adding a feminist list or preferably two!
Put it up alongside the list of Akerman's favorite films.
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An update regarding adult films today:
We are undertaking a process to import a number of classic or historically significant adult films, and aiming to have this work complete in July. More details to follow.
http://feedback.letterboxd.com/forums/1 ... ffa16eb6b3

I hope they don't do it like that and just add all films or nothing and make a filter for those not interested, simple as that. That was pretty much what the users wanted, including me. Trying to add only a few films is just making it worse.
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Mothravka wrote: Yesterday, 6:58 am An update regarding adult films today:
We are undertaking a process to import a number of classic or historically significant adult films, and aiming to have this work complete in July. More details to follow.
http://feedback.letterboxd.com/forums/1 ... ffa16eb6b3

I hope they don't do it like that and just add all films or nothing and make a filter for those not interested, simple as that. That was pretty much what the users wanted, including me. Trying to add only a few films is just making it worse.
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Says it all really. They've let themselves be at the whim of TMdB's arbitrary and ever shifting policies and that's not going to change, and not just in terms of adult films.
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I do have an Letterbox something Acount : you would like to recreate the official lists there right ?

There are already 15 created i see
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Laughing pretty hard at my crankiness from a few months ago in this thread. :lol: Yikes. Joke reviews are annoying, but they're not the end of the world. I've 100% embraced the way the site works now. I love it so much, it has changed my life as I got deeper into it. You read people's reviews every day, and even if you never speak to them and they're just usernames, you feel like you know them. Kinda like this place.

I know someone in the company who I consider to be a very good friend. The adult film transition will be executed as well as possible. Letterboxd is an A+ organization.
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kongs_speech wrote: Yesterday, 11:43 amThe adult film transition will be executed as well as possible. Letterboxd is an A+ organization.
I'm very sceptical about it. Why then would they announce that they will add "a number of classic or historically significant adult films"? That seems like an awful execution to just add some films. And I'm not alone about having that opinion.
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Mothravka wrote: Yesterday, 12:19 pm
kongs_speech wrote: Yesterday, 11:43 amThe adult film transition will be executed as well as possible. Letterboxd is an A+ organization.
I'm very sceptical about it. Why then would they announce that they will add "a number of classic or historically significant adult films"? That seems like an awful execution to just add some films. And I'm not alone about having that opinion.
Well, Vinegar Syndrome has a huge presence on Letterboxd, so at least every film they've released will be added, and that is a ton of important adult films. All LB wants to do is prevent junk like Cum Fart Cocktails 4 from getting in.
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kongs_speech wrote: Yesterday, 11:43 am The adult film transition will be executed as well as possible. Letterboxd is an A+ organization.
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kongs_speech wrote: Yesterday, 12:25 pm
Mothravka wrote: Yesterday, 12:19 pm
kongs_speech wrote: Yesterday, 11:43 amThe adult film transition will be executed as well as possible. Letterboxd is an A+ organization.
I'm very sceptical about it. Why then would they announce that they will add "a number of classic or historically significant adult films"? That seems like an awful execution to just add some films. And I'm not alone about having that opinion.
Well, Vinegar Syndrome has a huge presence on Letterboxd, so at least every film they've released will be added, and that is a ton of important adult films. All LB wants to do is prevent junk like Cum Fart Cocktails 4 from getting in.
But I've heard that Cum Fart Cocktails 4 is where the lore of the universe really starts to get fleshed out in a more substantial way... :D
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GruesomeTwosome wrote: Yesterday, 2:07 pm
kongs_speech wrote: Yesterday, 11:43 am The adult film transition will be executed as well as possible. Letterboxd is an A+ organization.
- kongs_speech, paid LB spokesperson ;)
I wish. They could pay me in followers and review likes.
flavo5000 wrote: Yesterday, 3:01 pm
kongs_speech wrote: Yesterday, 12:25 pm
Mothravka wrote: Yesterday, 12:19 pm

I'm very sceptical about it. Why then would they announce that they will add "a number of classic or historically significant adult films"? That seems like an awful execution to just add some films. And I'm not alone about having that opinion.
Well, Vinegar Syndrome has a huge presence on Letterboxd, so at least every film they've released will be added, and that is a ton of important adult films. All LB wants to do is prevent junk like Cum Fart Cocktails 4 from getting in.
But I've heard that Cum Fart Cocktails 4 is where the lore of the universe really starts to get fleshed out in a more substantial way... :D
I mean, that's kinda true. It's essential setup for The Cumvengers.
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How are they going to decide which adult films to add? Will they take requests to add additional adult films? I highly doubt that they're able to come up with a complete list of historically significant adult films on their own.

At the very least, they should include every adult film on the following lists:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/avns ... me/mjf314/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... ms/mjf314/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/xrco ... me/mjf314/
http://www.rame.net/aarle/Gold_list.html#gold_anchor
http://www.rame.net/aarle/Good_list.html#good_anchor
http://www.rame.net/aarle/Historical.html#hist_anchor

Even then, they'll miss a lot of important films, so the only real solution is to take requests. But they won't be able to verify which requests are "important", so the only real solution is to add everything that gets requested (as long as it meets the standard eligibility rules, so a random video that someone uploads to a porn streaming website would still be ineligible).
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If the goal were simply to exclude Ass bangers 15, they could do "anything theatrically released is acceptable."

Apparently videos are on TMdB, you just can't browse them without logging in.
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