Bug or MASSIVE IMDb change?

[Carmel1379]

Made a long-ish list and then changed the ranking of a few titles in the IMDb mobile app where one can drag & drop entries. After a few changes and saves, I then noticed the whole list's ranking was permuted: many titles were seemingly randomly shifted by up to about 10 places.

[Onderhond]

New IMDb detail page incoming. It looks a lot nicer, the irritating thing is that your own vote isn't immediately rendered when loading the page. It takes 5-10 seconds for it to show up. Quite irritating since I used that as some kind of visual marker that I'd already seen a film, and the default render of the vote component is the same as the "not-voted" state. So now every time I want to check I have to wait an indefinite amount of time to see if a vote appears in order to be certain I've already seen a film.

Also, the link script will need some fixing

[PeacefulAnarchy]

Oh great, that's the current mobile page that hides the cast and fronts a useless video that sucks up memory.
Edit: Well a worse version of that page if what you say about the vote loading is accurate.

[Fergenaprido]

Ew indeed. I already stopped using the homepage of imdb after their latest changes. My imdb bookmark now takes me straight to the search page, since 99% of the time when I'm on there all I want to do is find a film or person, or access one of my own lists.

I don't see the preview myself, yet. You say it's the "detail" page, but there's no URL in your screenshot. Is that just the main page for the film, or the full cast and crew page, or the reference view?

I wonder if the imdb clutterless script will also need to be updated.

[Cocoa]

I hate the change

[PeacefulAnarchy]

Oh great, that's the current mobile page that hides the cast and fronts a useless video that sucks up memory.
Edit: Well a worse version of that page if what you say about the vote loading is accurate.

Actually, looking again now that I'm awake it's mostly just a slight reformatting of the current default view, plus black. It might actually be an improvement if the next thing down is the castlist. The rating load thing sucks, but maybe that's just a bug. Hopefully they still let us keep reference view.

[xianjiro]

Hopefully they still let us keep reference view.

I know what I'm hoping for this Christmas.

[DareDaniel]

How do I see that preview?

[Onderhond]

It's no doubt some A/B testing, big sites do staged rollouts all the time these days. Not sure if you can trigger it, it was just offered to me at some point.

I honestly think it looks way better than the old version, which looked like a remnant of 20th century web design. People's reactions will be negative at first (they always are), but once their muscle memory adapts they'll no doubt feel it's better than the old version.

The only real problem for me is the personal score thing, which I don't think is a bug. If I can take a wild guess, I think the page itself is cached (to speed things up) and then a user's score get loaded after the page has finished rendering. You'd expect a big firm like Amazon to come up with a better implementation though, then again, web design ...

[DareDaniel]

Can you take more screenshots of the rest of the page? How do the user profile page and actor/director pages look now?

Btw, are these extensions still working?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... hhmb?hl=en
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... obgb?hl=en

[Onderhond]

It's just the movie detail page that has changed, none of the underlying pages. Don't worry though, I'm sure it'll hit you eventually.

(can't take pics right now, I don't have the design on my work laptop)

[DareDaniel]

I was able to check the new version on this link:

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/con ... 357af24f6d

What a fucking mess. It looked nice on Onderhond's picture, but then you scroll down and it looks so confusing. Why does the screen even go from black to white? It looks so much better on the app. I'll come back to letterboxd lmao.

[Torgo]

OF COURSE it breaks the script. I won't go back to copy+pastying every single tt-ID to ICM again ..

[DareDaniel]

The information seems to be the same, but everything looks so huge and empty at the same time. It makes you scroll down more because now the same information doesn't fit in the screen:

[Armoreska]

Worse and worse with every update? IMDb trying to trick us into anti-progressivism by making worse what it can.

[yllow]

I think all they care about is ad revenue and clicks to Amazon

[Onderhond]

It's just dragging their web design in the 2010s. The critique on the redesign is a little ridiculous imo. "Space" has been a design trend for a long time, because it has clear UX benefits. I get change is hard for some and people using the site like a core functional tool may not benefit from more airy designs, then again they're just a small fraction of the users of the site. Most people go to IMDb to look up some info on a film they'll want to see. Watch a trailer, maybe look at some trivia, check an actor.

The new design makes sense for those people.

[bal3x]

IMDb title page about to be changed again... a "sneak peek" is being offered already. Wondering how the IMDb scripts will work with this new look, probably will need to use reference view, hope they don't disable that.

[Torgo]

bal3x, you aren't just referring to the design change from December, are you? Guess that will roll out over time.

New IMDb detail page incoming. It looks a lot nicer, the irritating thing is that your own vote isn't immediately rendered when loading the page. It takes 5-10 seconds for it to show up. Quite irritating since I used that as some kind of visual marker that I'd already seen a film, and the default render of the vote component is the same as the "not-voted" state. So now every time I want to check I have to wait an indefinite amount of time to see if a vote appears in order to be certain I've already seen a film.

Also, the link script will need some fixing

Spoiler

.. also ..

One of my Facebook friends, who is neither unintelligent nor young, says "Avengers: Infinity War" is flat-out THE best movie she has ever seen. I weep.

I think it was a fantastic blockbuster experience. But I'm rather young.

[bal3x]

bal3x, you aren't just referring to the design change from December, are you? Guess that will roll out over time.

New IMDb detail page incoming. It looks a lot nicer, the irritating thing is that your own vote isn't immediately rendered when loading the page. It takes 5-10 seconds for it to show up. Quite irritating since I used that as some kind of visual marker that I'd already seen a film, and the default render of the vote component is the same as the "not-voted" state. So now every time I want to check I have to wait an indefinite amount of time to see if a vote appears in order to be certain I've already seen a film.

Also, the link script will need some fixing

Spoiler

.. also ..

One of my Facebook friends, who is neither unintelligent nor young, says "Avengers: Infinity War" is flat-out THE best movie she has ever seen. I weep.

I think it was a fantastic blockbuster experience. But I'm rather young.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't see this was already discussed..

[xianjiro]

@bal3x: did you just miss the thread or were down for a long winter's nap?

[bal3x]

@bal3x: did you just miss the thread or were down for a long winter's nap?

lol, this is weird, I did a search on the forum as this thread was not under active topics, I guess I just didn't check the previous page, normally I do that

[Torgo]

Ok, this, for a change, is indeed a feature, not a bug. Something on the page for This Is Spinal Tap is kinda off. But what? I'll let you find it ..

Spoiler

https://i.imgur.com/FfIvwlv.jpg
Thanks to Melvelet for pointing that out!

[xianjiro]

Ok, this, for a change, is indeed a feature, not a bug. Something on the page for This Is Spinal Tap is kinda off. But what? I'll let you find it ..

Spoiler

https://i.imgur.com/FfIvwlv.jpg
Thanks to Melvelet for pointing that out!

no such bug/feature in reference view just sayin'

[Torgo]

Interesting, since it even works in the mobile app

[Onderhond]

Getting a bit irritated with the way handles director info nowadays. Seems they're adding more and more assistant or related roles to the credits section. On The Rescue Chi-Hung Choi is credited as documentary director. But on the main page of the film that distinction isn't even visible

[Fergenaprido]

Getting a bit irritated with the way handles director info nowadays. Seems they're adding more and more assistant or related roles to the credits section. On The Rescue Chi-Hung Choi is credited as documentary director. But on the main page of the film that distinction isn't even visible

That's a mistake of the person who submitted the credit. It should be in another section. That person is already credited as "making-of director" in the miscellaneous section, which sounds like the same thing. I'm submitting a correction to delete the "documentary director" credit.

[Onderhond]

That's a mistake of the person who submitted the credit. It should be in another section. That person is already credited as "making-of director" in the miscellaneous section, which sounds like the same thing. I'm submitting a correction to delete the "documentary director" credit.

Thanks

But it's not just this example. For a while they've been adding dub directors of anime as main directors. Also quite a few dubious action director credits on Hong Kong films (though I guess they can be a bit dubious about that themselves). And I've noticed it with other films too. So either their vetting process is shit, or they're just allowing more and more specific directing jobs to sit next to the main director.

[Fergenaprido]

The vetting process is shit But I think it's gotten marginally better over the years.

I've actually noticed the opposite for anime dubbing. As I've been working on the list of debut features, I found quite a number of films where the dubbed director was initially given full credit on imdb, but when I combed through each one, most of them had been removed completely, or moved to a different section.

Anyway, director removal still pending. I also submitted an update to change the main title to Mandarin. Never noticed this before, but they accepted it but only with the attribute of "new title". I wonder if that's a temporary thing and in a day or two it will switch like other updates I've given.