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How wrong is your check total? (The Ballad of Blueboybob)

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How wrong is your check total? (The Ballad of Blueboybob)

#1

Post by Ebbywebby » June 30th, 2020, 8:25 pm

The rankings say I have 5559 official checks, but if I sort my checks by # official lists and note where the zero-list films start, this indicates I actually have just 5545. (When I first noted this problem some weeks ago, the gap was 17 rather than 14.)

Then I curiously did the same for the top 25 users. A few of the names have small discrepancies that could be explained by a short lag between list updates and ranking updates, but otherwise....

RonJensen 14005 top list checks, actually has 13929 (-76)
Sien 13030 top list checks, actually has 12981 (-49)
jlfitz 12161 top list checks, actually has 12114 (-47)
nymets138 11433 top list checks, actually has 11395 (-38)
JF-UK 11110 top list checks, actually has 11059 (-51)
allisoncm 10895 top list checks, actually has 10875 (-20)
Fitz of Fury 10171 top list checks, actually has 10147 (-24)
burneyfan 10026 top list checks, actually has exactly 10000! (-26)
Rich 9580 top list checks, actually has 9559 (-21)
SanderO 9339 top list checks, actually has 9327 (-12)
Spocksbrain 9292 top list checks, actually has 9243 (-49)
Apu 9201 top list checks, actually has 9158 (-43)
blueboybob 9151 top list checks, actually has 9465???? (+314)
Tim2460 9086 top list checks, actually has 9075 (-11)
xianjiro 8948 top list checks, actually has 8931 (-17)
Leopardi 8944 top list checks,, actually has 8913 (-31)
thoughtrepellent 8794 top list checks, actually has 8782 (-12)
jerry warton 8746 top list checks, actually has 8754 (+8)
rkzk 8623 top list checks, actually has 8621 (-2)
winds 8596 top list checks, actually has 8600 (+4)
seventhsamurai54 8475 top list checks, actually has 8486 (+11)
tristanb 8453 top list checks, actually has 8450 (-3)
Gremlo 8407 top list checks, actually has 8432 (+25)
Laydback 8316 top list checks, actually has 8302 (-14)
1SO 8309 top list checks, actually has 8289 (-20)

How far off is your count?

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#2

Post by burneyfan » June 30th, 2020, 8:54 pm

That's cool about the 10,000! I had no idea! :cheers:

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#3

Post by tazz_85 » June 30th, 2020, 9:03 pm

i should have 2093 but according to the lists it's 2101. so +8
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Post by brokenface » June 30th, 2020, 9:15 pm

burneyfan wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 8:54 pm
That's cool about the 10,000! I had no idea! :cheers:
Congrats on the 10k! :banana: :party:

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Post by Ebbywebby » June 30th, 2020, 9:21 pm

I ran an official 10K in 46:11 back around 2006, but this wins me no bragging rights here. :)

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#6

Post by brokenface » June 30th, 2020, 9:21 pm

wrt the thread, I don't have an explanation, but I would suggest it's just as possible that the check count is the correct value and there's something going wrong with filter/sort when you sort checks by # official lists.


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#8

Post by Tasselfoot » June 30th, 2020, 10:11 pm

4625 listed, 4628 sorted. Which could just be the films i watched yesterday/today.

Pretty odd how some folks are off by 20, 30, 50, 300 though? Especially the ones where it shows they have more on the list than they do on the sort; how does that happen.

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#9

Post by blueboybob » July 1st, 2020, 12:37 am

Uhhhh, sorry? I mean I'm not too worried. I'm only here to find movies I would never have known about otherwise.

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#10

Post by joachimt » July 1st, 2020, 5:07 am

I have asked Marijn to join this topic.
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#11

Post by Armoreska » July 1st, 2020, 5:36 am

-8
I have 70 less checks than Total checks says
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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists (besides TV): ANARCHISTS, 2010s bests, RW Fassbinder, Yasujiro Ozu, Eric Rohmer, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, 17+ sci-fi lists on watchlist, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
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Post by sortile9io » July 1st, 2020, 6:41 am

4632 vs 4625 (sorted) = -7

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Post by clemmetarey » July 1st, 2020, 9:28 am

3133 listed vs 3126 sorted. So not a big gap.

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Post by Armoreska » July 1st, 2020, 10:10 am

What about YOUR total check disparities?
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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists (besides TV): ANARCHISTS, 2010s bests, RW Fassbinder, Yasujiro Ozu, Eric Rohmer, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, 17+ sci-fi lists on watchlist, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo

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#15

Post by Tim2460 » July 1st, 2020, 11:14 am

If i sort my checked page by number of lists ....

I'm getting 363 pages of 25 film plus 4 films --> 9079 "official" checks.

My top 25 page counter is @9090.... That counter and the Tim2460 (15,074) on top of the main page are always the most up to date...

They seems to be off by a few days of checking ... let's say 3 or 4 days at my current "working from home" check rate.

That is weird is that the checked page should be up to date as i can see this morning checks ??

Exporting the check csv gives me the exact same 9079 checks ...

My excel file says 8967 but i don't change the Watchlist films to Checked Films Tag regulary.

So .... I guess my 9090 "Top 25" counter isn't calculated by accessing the main site database.

But i see it evolving every morning ? ;)

The delta could be from old official films of new ones... Only the Webmaster can tell ;)

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Post by sortile9io » July 1st, 2020, 11:22 am

Armoreska wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 10:10 am
What about YOUR total check disparities?
None, 6022 in both cases.

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Post by cinephage » July 1st, 2020, 1:29 pm

I'm ranked #84 with 6269 official checks, but by sorting them as mentionned above, I have 6281 checked movies on an official list. Thats really strange. Could it be some of the most recent lists don't add up, or something like that ? 12 is not much, but the discrepancy is puzzling...
Like blueboybob, I watch movies, the rankings are just a fun byproduct of indulging in my hobby, so I wouldn't worry too much in any case.

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Post by Traveller » July 1st, 2020, 3:23 pm

Neither that much of a difference for me: 5325 listed and 5336 sorted.
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Post by Cocoa » July 1st, 2020, 4:17 pm

5880 listed - 5870 sorted. Only a 10 difference for me.

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Post by Tim2460 » August 20th, 2020, 11:35 am

Seesm that bug just stopped very ... strongly...

Don't know how many official checks i had yesterday but i was WAYYYY under APU :(

And now i have +28 on APU ??

If i export my checks ... i don't see much ... just my usual 3-4 checks a day.

Weird.

For BBB he gained his delta checks overnight as he's now WAY above the person in front of him.

Must be related to database work by Marjin i guess.

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Post by Tim2460 » August 20th, 2020, 11:38 am

Same story between user @ 24 & 25 rank ...

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#22

Post by Harco » August 20th, 2020, 11:47 am

I suddenly had around 10 more official checks than yesterday. Seems Marijn worked some magic.
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#23

Post by blueboybob » August 20th, 2020, 1:09 pm

Oh boy, gonna jump into top 10! Wonder if people follow that closely are going to call me a cheater.

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Post by Tim2460 » August 20th, 2020, 2:09 pm

I doubt it BBB ;)

For my part i don't really see anything on my Checks export ... There are not 30+ checks during the last night for exemple...

Hard to even imagine what's going on wihout knowledge for how the different database works together...
It looks like desynchronization between 2 Databases got fixed

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Post by joachimt » August 20th, 2020, 8:48 pm

@EbbyWebby: Can you confirm? Has it been fixed indeed? I talked to Marijn about this two days ago and he said he was going to work on it.
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Post by cinephage » August 21st, 2020, 8:11 am

Something has definitely changed : I suddenly have 20 of so more checks, which will bump me up to 2 or 3 ranks...

Nice if that's just the bug getting solved.

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Post by Ebbywebby » August 21st, 2020, 10:23 am

I suddenly lost eight checks, which unfortunately seems to mean the check-count problem is fixed for me. :)

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Post by joachimt » August 21st, 2020, 11:10 am

I guess it's still going to happen with me. The rankings say I've got 7422 official checks, but when I export my checks and filter on official lists it says 7395.

Total checkcount is off by 3. Profile page says 12849. Excel says 12846.
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Post by Tim2460 » August 22nd, 2020, 4:56 pm

Is it me or the rank list won't update anymore? (D:)

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Post by tazz_85 » August 22nd, 2020, 5:03 pm

Tim2460 wrote:
August 22nd, 2020, 4:56 pm
Is it me or the rank list won't update anymore? (D:)
i've noticed too, it hasn't updated since monday or tuesday i think.
i've been at the same rank since then:

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Post by joachimt » August 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm

I'll ask Marijn.
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Post by tazz_85 » August 24th, 2020, 10:01 am

joachimt wrote:
August 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm
I'll ask Marijn.
Any updates on this?

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Post by Tim2460 » August 24th, 2020, 12:18 pm

Maybe related to the same problem; the individual Official List ranking don't work as well... and or as the check counter isn't updated :

Saw the last Romantics films with Miss Tim2460 and still @ 93 checks on the rank.

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At least Miss was happy to share Romantic time with her Husband.

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Post by joachimt » August 24th, 2020, 12:42 pm

tazz_85 wrote:
August 24th, 2020, 10:01 am
joachimt wrote:
August 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm
I'll ask Marijn.
Any updates on this?
He said the process is running, but very slow. The process of updating official check count and updating rankings is currently done as one task simultaneously. He said he'll try to separate the two processes, so it will go faster hopefully. Not sure if he already found the time to work on this.
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Post by Tim2460 » August 24th, 2020, 2:40 pm

That bug is really strange.... Was trying to find an patern with my Checks history but couldn't find the big jumps

It's cool to see theses stats anyway, it reminds me of the main action i made this last 2 years, when i joined ICM, changed my Movie Collection and excel to the TTnumber formalism.
Then Manage every film i owned to check it @ICM or watchlist it; especialy the Peary's Book Unofficial ones.

Since thoses Huge millestones, i managed to keep my viewing rate / habbit.
You can clearly see that i almost only watch official movies anymore :blink:

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If you want the same kind of historic data, Send me your checks history ;)

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Post by Traveller » August 25th, 2020, 6:23 pm

joachimt wrote:
August 24th, 2020, 12:42 pm
tazz_85 wrote:
August 24th, 2020, 10:01 am
joachimt wrote:
August 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm
I'll ask Marijn.
Any updates on this?
He said the process is running, but very slow. The process of updating official check count and updating rankings is currently done as one task simultaneously. He said he'll try to separate the two processes, so it will go faster hopefully. Not sure if he already found the time to work on this.
My official check count seems to be fixed now. Anyone else?
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#37

Post by Tim2460 » August 25th, 2020, 9:00 pm

For me it's not repaired yet I'm behind apu but 30+ film above with the 'new' counter

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Post by Ebbywebby » August 25th, 2020, 9:53 pm

Tim2460 wrote:
August 25th, 2020, 9:00 pm
For me it's not repaired yet I'm behind apu but 30+ film above with the 'new' counter
But your COUNT is correct. You're talking about the rankings -- that's something different.

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Post by Tim2460 » August 26th, 2020, 6:52 am

True ebby : count seems corrected, but général and list ranks still off

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Post by Tim2460 » August 26th, 2020, 3:15 pm

And ... All the rankings seems corrected as well !!

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