"Dead" Lists.

[Tim2460]

Hello Everyone :

Going throught the sources of the Lists, i'm trying lately to tell if an lists will or not be updated in the future.

On the sheet below, these is an A for active, or D for Dead and the year it was updated for the last time or created....

Anyone saw an obvious error ?

Idea behind that is not t oupdate theses Dead list every month to create the Official Lists... if there's supposed not to move anymore.

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	Tab	List.Name
A	Award	Academy Award Best Pictures
A	Award	BAFTA - Best Film
A	Website	Best Of Rotten Tomatoes
A	Award	Cahiers du cinéma 100
A	Website	iCheckMovies - Most Checked
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1920s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1930s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1940s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1950s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1960s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1970s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1980s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1990s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 2000s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's 2010s Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Action Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Adventure Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Animation Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Biography Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Comedy Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Crime Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Drama Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Family Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Fantasy Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Film-noir Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's History Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Horror Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Independent Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Music Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Mystery Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Romance Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Sci-fi Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Sport Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Thriller Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's War Top 50
A	IMDB	IMDb's Western Top 50
A	Website	Reddit top 250
A	Website	The 100 Best Films Of World Cinema
A	Critics	TimeOut's 100 Best Romantic Movies
A	IMDB	IMDb's Mini-series Top 50
A	Award	Cannes Film Festival - Grand Prix
A	Website	Ain't Nobody's Blues But My Own
A	Award	Belgian Film Awards
A	Award	Locarno Film Festival - Golden Leopard
A	Website	Masters Of Cinema
A	Award	Venice Film Festival - Golden Lion
A	Website	iCheckMovies - Most Favorite
A	Website	FOK! top 250
A	Critics	Doubling the Canon
A	Award	Academy Award Best Foreign Pictures
A	IMDB	IMDb's Documentary Top 50
A	Website	The Criterion Collection
A	Website	They Shoot Pictures, Don't They?
A	Award	Academy Award Best Foreign Language Film Nominees
A	Website	iCM Forum's 500<400
A	Website	National Film Registry
A	Institute	Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films
A	Country	Times' 100 Best French Films
A	Award	Nederlands Film Festival - Gouden Kalf
A	Award	Berlin International Film Festival - Golden Bears
A	Award	Lola Award - Best Film
A	Website	The 21st Century's Most Acclaimed Films
A	Website	Tim Dirks' Most Controversial Films of All-Time
A	Institute	Criterion's Eclipse Collection
A	Award	Sundance Film Festival - Grand Jury Prize
A	Country	100 Best British films
A	Award	César Award - Best Film
A	Award	Cannes Film Festival - Palme d'Or
A	IMDB	IMDb's Musical Top 50
A	Website	366 Weird Movies (Certified Weird)
A	Award	Academy Award Best Cinematography
A	Institute	All Time Box Office
A	Award	Goya Award
A	Institute	TSPDT 1000 Noir Films
A	IMDB	IMDb's Top 250
A	Award	FESPACO - Étalon de Yennenga
A	Award	National Board of Review - Best Film
A	Critics	1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die
A	Award	Golden Globe Best Picture Winners
A	Website	Brief Encounters
A	Award	Amanda Award - Best Film
A	Website	Spaghetti Westerns
A	Institute	Academy Award Best Picture Nominees
A	Award	Ariel Award
A	IMDB	IMDb's 1910s Top 50
A	Website	They Shoot Zombies, Don't They?
A	Award	Guldbagge Award
A	Award	Bodil Award Winners for Best Danish Film
A	Website	All-Time Worldwide Box office
A	IMDB	IMDb's Shorts Top 50
D-1974	Critics	Amos Vogel's Film as a Subversive Art
D-1975	Institute	Anthology Film Archives' Essential Cinema
D-1994	Misc	Best Cartoons Ever - A Gift List From Jerry Beck
D-1994	Critics	François Truffaut's The Films of My Life
D-1995	Country	UNESCO's Memory of the World: National Cinematic Heritage
D-1995	Country	National Film Archive of India 125 Great Indian Films
D-1995	Country	Nickel Odeón Top Spanish films until 1995
D-1995	Country	The 100 Most Significant German Films
D-1995	Director	A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies
D-1997	Critics	Action! The Action Movie A-Z
D-1998	Institute	The British Film Institute: 360 Classics
D-1999	Critics	100 Must-See Films Of The 20th Century
D-1999	Director	Akira Kurosawa's A Dream is a Genius
D-1999	Country	BFI 100
D-2000	Country	AFI's 100 years...100 laughs
D-2001	Country	AFI's 100 years...100 thrills
D-2002	Country	AFI's 100 years...100 passions
D-2002	Critics	Film Comedy
D-2003	Country	Top 100 Bollywood Films
D-2004	Misc	501 Must See Movies
D-2004	Country	The Best 1,000 Movies Ever Made
D-2005	Country	TimeOut's 100 Best French Films
D-2005	Critics	Halliwell's Top 1000: The Ultimate Movie Countdown
D-2006	Institute	Annecy Festival's 100 Films for a Century of Animation
D-2006	Critics	TimeOut's 1000 Films to Change Your Life
D-2006	Country	100 Greatest Films of Australian Cinema
D-2006	Country	AFI's 100 years...100 cheers
D-2007	Country	AFI's 100 years...100 movies
D-2007	Director	Quentin Tarantino's Coolest Movies of All Time
D-2007	Country	Asian Cinema: A Field Guide
D-2007	Critics	The Guardian's 1000 Films to See Before You Die
D-2008	Misc	Taschen 100 All-time favorite movies
D-2008	Country	Film Critics Association's Best Romanian Films
D-2008	Website	100 Classic Martial Arts Films
D-2008	Country	Dutch Film Top 50
D-2009	Website	50 Greatest Sequels
D-2009	Website	A.V. Club - The best films of the '00s
D-2009	Website	FilmTotaal top 100
D-2009	Website	The 100 Greatest Sci-Fi Movies
D-2009	Critics	101 War Movies You Must See Before You Die
D-2009	Institute	Cahiers du cinéma - Yearly top 10s
D-2009	Critics	The Best 100 Chinese Motion Pictures
D-2009	Institute	100 Documentary Films (BFI Screen Guide)
D-2009	Country	Film magazine's Best Iranian Films (2009)
D-2009	Website	Empire 500
D-2009	Misc	Patrick Galloway's guide to samurai films
D-2009	Country	Cinema Tropical - Top Ten Latin American Films of the Decade (2000-2009)
D-2010	Website	MovieSense 101
D-2010	Award	Golden Lotus Award - Best Feature Film
D-2010	Misc	Fantasy Cinema: Impossible Worlds on Screen
D-2010	Country	Golden Horse's 100 Greatest Chinese-Language Films
D-2010	Critics	Have You Seen? A Personal Introduction to 1,000 Films
D-2010	Misc	500 Essential Cult Movies
D-2010	Country	Russian Guild Of Film Critics - Best Russian Films
D-2010	Country	Kinema Junpo Top Japanese Films
D-2010	Country	Polish Film Institute's 100 Years of Polish Cinema
D-2010	Country	Livejournal Russian top 100
D-2010	Institute	Top 100 Animated Features of All Time
D-2011	Critics	The Story of Film: An Odyssey
D-2011	Website	Top 100 Spiritually Significant Films
D-2011	Institute	100 Westerns (BFI Screen Guide)
D-2011	Country	Il Grande Cinema Italiano
D-2011	Institute	100 Musicals (BFI Screen Guide)
D-2011	Country	100 Korean Masterpieces by Film 2.0 (2008 Edition)
D-2011	Institute	100 Animated Feature Films (BFI Screen Guides)
D-2011	Country	Cine.gr's The Best of Greek Cinema
D-2011	Website	The Deuce Top 20
D-2011	Country	ekolay.net's Best Turkish Films
D-2012	Institute	Sight and Sound - 75 Hidden Gems
D-2012	Institute	100 Road Movies (BFI Screen Guide)
D-2012	Institute	Sight and Sound 2012 - Combined List
D-2012	Institute	Harvard University's Suggested Film Viewing List: Narrative Films (2012)
D-2012	Institute	100 American Independent Films (BFI Screen Guide)
D-2012	Country	LoveHKFilm.com's The Best Hong Kong Films Ever
D-2012	Country	Guide to African Cinema
D-2012	Institute	Harvard University's Suggested Film Viewing List: Non-Fiction Films (2012)
D-2012	Critics	Roger Ebert: the great movies
D-2012	Country	FLM's Best Swedish Films of All Time
D-2012	Country	53 Magyar Film - Best Hungarian Films
D-2012	Website	The Top 300 Silent Era Films
D-2012	Country	Público's Best Portuguese Films
D-2012	Country	Golden Foundation of Czech and Slovak Cinema
D-2012	Country	Yle News' Best Finnish Films of All Time
D-2013	Institute	100 Science Fiction Films (BFI Screen Guide)
D-2013	Director	Spike Lee's Essential Film List
D-2013	Country	Cien años sin soledad: The Greatest Latin American Films of All Time
D-2013	Website	Total Film's 50 Amazing Films You've Probably Never Seen
D-2013	Country	100 Korean Films
D-2013	Critics	Silent but not Forgotten: The best silent films
D-2013	Website	The New Cult Canon
D-2013	Country	DIFF's The 100 Greatest Arab Films
D-2014	Institute	Sight and Sound -The Greatest Documentaries of All Time
D-2014	Director	Stanley Kubrick, Cinephile
D-2015	Country	Top 100 Canadian Films
D-2015	Country	Abraccine's The 100 Best Brazilian Films
D-2015	Country	Lodz Film Museum's Best Polish Films
D-2016	Critics	BBC's 100 greatest films of the 21st Century
D-2016	Critics	BFI Flare's Best LGBT Films of All Time
D-2016	Country	Caimán's Top Spanish Films
D-2016	Website	Badmovies.org Best B-Movies
D-2017	Critics	The 100 Greatest Comedies of All Time (BBC Culture)
D-2017	Website	Paste's The 100 Best Anime Movies of All Time
D-2018	Country	FilmTV's 100 Greatest Italian Films
D-2018	Website	TSPDT 100 Essential Noir Films

[beavis]

The Cahiers one gets updated every year, so that's obvious
But there are also a few in there with periodic updates like sight and sound, the new Brazil list, Junpo
... That is at first glance, so there might be more...

[Tim2460]

Hmm Cahier/yearly is a clear Mistake : thx ,)

For S&S and brazillian stuff i'll move them to the Active category as they "could" be updated.

Could be expained that it could/will be updated in the portugese source ... But my Portugese isn't that good... i was almost lost in translation @ Rio hehe

It's also cool to try to Platinium Dead List... They won't trool you next week like the IMDB ones hene

Thx Beavix : any help/another pair of eyes is apreciated.

[ChrisReynolds]

The Sight and Sound combined list is active. It gets updated every decade.

[sol]

Corrections:

• Criterion's Eclipse Collection - Dead - last time I checked, the Eclipse link didn't work and they haven't released anything new in ages
• 366 Weird Movies (Certified Weird) - Dead - list is now completed (completed 2018)
• Cahiers du cinéma - Yearly top 10s - Alive - as mentioned above

Not sure:

• Academy Award Best Foreign Pictures - this award is being renamed for the 2020 Ceremony, but I think it's technically the same award
• Roger Ebert: the great movies - depending on the outcome of the Up series (but yes, technically 'dead')
• Sight and Sound -The Greatest Documentaries - thought this got updated at the same time as the main list??
• iCheckMovies - Most Checked - I think this is the most static list of all the active ones on iCM, though it is technically not dead - just hard to penetrate

[Onderhond]

technically not dead - just hard to penetrate

The plot for a new zombie/necrophilia film?

[Coryn]

Corrections:

• Criterion's Eclipse Collection - Dead - last time I checked, the Eclipse link didn't work and they haven't released anything new in ages
• 366 Weird Movies (Certified Weird) - Dead - list is now completed (completed 2018)
• Cahiers du cinéma - Yearly top 10s - Alive - as mentioned above

Not sure:

• Academy Award Best Foreign Pictures - this award is being renamed for the 2020 Ceremony, but I think it's technically the same award
• Roger Ebert: the great movies - depending on the outcome of the Up series (but yes, technically 'dead')
• Sight and Sound -The Greatest Documentaries - thought this got updated at the same time as the main list??
• iCheckMovies - Most Checked - I think this is the most static list of all the active ones on iCM, though it is technically not dead - just hard to penetrate

Wasn't he considering adding more movies to the 366 weird movie list ? I remember reading it somewhere but can't vouch for the source.

[ChrisReynolds]

Wasn't he considering adding more movies to the 366 weird movie list ? I remember reading it somewhere but can't vouch for the source.

366 Weird have started a new list of 366 Apocryphally Weird Movies. So far it has one entry, The Happiness of the Katakuris. It has not been added to the iCheckMovies list, but we had a discussion about this in another thread when they first announced they would be adding a second set of 366, and people agreed that they should be added to the main list.

[Coryn]

Wasn't he considering adding more movies to the 366 weird movie list ? I remember reading it somewhere but can't vouch for the source.

366 Weird have started a new list of 366 Apocryphally Weird Movies. So far it has one entry, The Happiness of the Katakuris. It has not been added to the iCheckMovies list, but we had a discussion about this in another thread when they first announced they would be adding a second set of 366, and people agreed that they should be added to the main list.

Exactly, so not dead in that case I guess.

[Onderhond]

366 Weird have started a new list of 366 Apocryphally Weird Movies. So far it has one entry, The Happiness of the Katakuris.

I'm definitely happy with the expansion of the list, but calling The Happiness of the Katakuris "apocryphally weird" is pretty much cuckoo. Watched that film again this weekend and it's downright bonkers. Much more so than most entries on the main list.

Bottom line though ... yay, expansion!

[Tim2460]

Thx all for the second look

[beavis]

I had another look at the sources of both Caimán / Spain and Abraccine / Brazil because I wasn't actually sure anymore which one of those (or maybe both?) was supposed to be getting an update every 5 years. But this information is not to be found in those sources. Mjf keeps beter tabs on these things, so he should know what's up with that. Maybe better to put the status for these two to 'uncertain' at the moment They might be static, but I'm sure that at least for one of these two the fact that it wasn't supposed to be static was óne of the arguments for replacing a previous list.

[sol]

technically not dead - just hard to penetrate

The plot for a new zombie/necrophilia film?

I need to stop checking the forum when on the treadmill. Almost fell off when I read that.

Wasn't he considering adding more movies to the 366 weird movie list ? I remember reading it somewhere but can't vouch for the source.

366 Weird have started a new list of 366 Apocryphally Weird Movies. So far it has one entry, The Happiness of the Katakuris. It has not been added to the iCheckMovies list, but we had a discussion about this in another thread when they first announced they would be adding a second set of 366, and people agreed that they should be added to the main list.

Oh, I would absolutely love for the 366 Weird list to be continuously expanded on iCM, but I thought that notion was shot down by the list-mods when we debated it at the time. I don't know. There were definitely some firm naysayers out there.

I suppose that we should highlight The Happiness of the Katakuris in the Official List Updates thread and see if a list-mod accepts it as film #367?

[joachimt]

I don’t even remember any discussion about expanding the weird list.

[sol]

I don’t even remember any discussion about expanding the weird list.

It actually wasn't as big a discussion as I recalled (or as negative as I recalled) but it obviously left me with the impression that the 366W list would not be further updated. Happy though if that isn't the case. I would love a 732 Weird Film Canon.

See viewtopic.php?p=554753#p554753

[xianjiro]

I don’t even remember any discussion about expanding the weird list.

you must have been 'undead' at the time I remember it, but it seems like months ago

[mjf314]

I had another look at the sources of both Caimán / Spain and Abraccine / Brazil because I wasn't actually sure anymore which one of those (or maybe both?) was supposed to be getting an update every 5 years. But this information is not to be found in those sources. Mjf keeps beter tabs on these things, so he should know what's up with that. Maybe better to put the status for these two to 'uncertain' at the moment They might be static, but I'm sure that at least for one of these two the fact that it wasn't supposed to be static was óne of the arguments for replacing a previous list.

I'm not aware of any plans to update either of those lists.

The Canadian list is updated approximately every 10 years (1984, 1993, 2004, 2015).

[PeacefulAnarchy]

[*]Sight and Sound -The Greatest Documentaries - thought this got updated at the same time as the main list??

It was a separate poll from the main S&S poll. Whether it gets repolled in 2024 is anyone's guess. There's no indication that I know of either way.

[PeacefulAnarchy]

Hello Everyone :

Going throught the sources of the Lists, i'm trying lately to tell if an lists will or not be updated in the future.

On the sheet below, these is an A for active, or D for Dead and the year it was updated for the last time or created....

Anyone saw an obvious error ?

Idea behind that is not t oupdate theses Dead list every month to create the Official Lists... if there's supposed not to move anymore.

TimeOut's 100 Best French Films gets updated sometimes. I think the Sequels list got updated once and may again. S&S will get updated and a name change in 2022 but obviously not until then.

[albajos]

Empire 500 have been held several times, so it might happen again

[Torgo]

technically not dead - just hard to penetrate

The plot for a new zombie/necrophilia film?

My vote for the greatest ICM post of 2019.

[flavo5000]

I don’t even remember any discussion about expanding the weird list.

It actually wasn't as big a discussion as I recalled (or as negative as I recalled) but it obviously left me with the impression that the 366W list would not be further updated. Happy though if that isn't the case. I would love a 732 Weird Film Canon.

See viewtopic.php?p=554753#p554753

Looks like that discussion was a quite a while ago. I think it may be time to get it going again because I agree that the Certified Weird list is easily one of the most interesting, fun lists on the site and I definitely welcome more weirdness being added (I'd advocate to just add to the existing list).