Several great arguments here, many are simply issues that have no immediate solution. Inflation though is an interesting idea but it creates a completely US centric list. Imagine trying to compute Italian Lira (about 1900 to a Euro at the turn in date) to modern dollars based on Star Wars' gross. Try and fathom how developing nations' old grosses might inflate (especially with the third world becoming huge players). Its fun to talk about inflation because the Pound and Dollar are solid in the modern context, but imagine a horrifying financial crisis in which they plummeted or rose suddenly.Gershwin on Jul 5 2018, 03:27:09 PM wrote:Those are all very interesting notions, I have to admit, but not ones you get from looking at the Box Office list as such, or even the general numbers behind it. You'll have to delve into the details, and they are not readily available (whereas most book or critics based lists do have an immediately accessible source that tells us why those specific films are on a list).
So putting those films in this already quite huge list isn't a very valuable contribution to make us understand the trends and dynamics of box office cinema a bit better. And even if they did: trends are very interesting, but do you need a few dozen examples of a trend from every year? Or do we get more insight from, let's say, a critic's book that discusses about 50 of the most relevant superhero movies from the last decade? I don't think such a book exists yet, but you'll get what I mean.
I would really prefer a yearly popularity poll from a lowbrow movie magazine, for instance. I bet there are some movie magazines out there that are aimed more at the consumer-friendly end of Hollywood's output, and I bet they have end-of-year-lists as well. Wouldn't such a list be more satisfying for everybody, both arthouse snobs and superhero movie lovers?
Edit: apart from that, how do you value the notion of inflation? I find that a very valuable argument, actually, and I'd prefer to have a nice way to correct the list for inflation (though I know no such method has popped up yet).
Can't fight the first paragraph, those are big problems with the list. The only thing I'll say is that they, unlike a published book, always update and therefore give new grounds for analysis which is yes, hard to gauge in terms of meaning. On populist polls its really hard to do so, many people first get exposed to movies long after they come out. Engaging lots of people who have seen many movies will draw in certain types of people, and not only that mostly people of one nation.
Relevant and popular are hard to gauge as well. A book of 50 superhero movies almost certainly couldn't ignore the psychotically disastrous Fant4stic, which I actually have in My World of Flops the first list I ever made here, but would cut a dozen MCU movies.