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Post by brokenface » May 16th, 2020, 7:27 pm

Okay yeah looks like there is a 2010 edition with yellow/orange cover, mine's paperback 2008 with black cover. Strange if so few changes, but maybe they were just missed in error in 1st ed.

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Post by joachimt » May 20th, 2020, 8:29 pm

FOK was just updated.
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Post by Teproc » May 21st, 2020, 7:42 am

Looks like the IMDB lists aren't getting updated anymore.

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Post by erde » May 21st, 2020, 10:22 am

joachimt wrote:
May 20th, 2020, 8:29 pm
FOK was just updated.
Thanks! I see that there was no freezing and reverting to an earlier version (yet, perhaps). In the absence of a Reddit update this year, I think that it's nice that this one did have one.
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Post by joachimt » May 21st, 2020, 1:29 pm

erde wrote:
May 21st, 2020, 10:22 am
joachimt wrote:
May 20th, 2020, 8:29 pm
FOK was just updated.
Thanks! I see that there was no freezing and reverting to an earlier version (yet, perhaps). In the absence of a Reddit update this year, I think that it's nice that this one did have one.
We discussed reverting to an older edition, but we decided to leave that idea for a while. If the userbase shrinks even more, maybe we'll open up the discussion again. The updated version is the 2019-2020-update. Originally planned for the end of 2019, but it had some delay.
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#2966

Post by Onderhond » May 21st, 2020, 4:52 pm

Still a bit of a fluke though. I submitted my list but never published it one the forum, some other dude took it upon himself to do the counting (because the organizer is currently MIA) so my submission never really made it.

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Post by joachimt » May 21st, 2020, 5:33 pm

Onderhond wrote:
May 21st, 2020, 4:52 pm
Still a bit of a fluke though. I submitted my list but never published it one the forum, some other dude took it upon himself to do the counting (because the organizer is currently MIA) so my submission never really made it.
How did you submit your list then? By PM?
Which dude? Gorro?
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Post by Onderhond » May 21st, 2020, 6:02 pm

Well, my list is public so the original organizer took it from there. And not sure who did the counting in the end, but it wasn't who started the poll.

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Post by joachimt » May 21st, 2020, 6:15 pm

If your list is public, why do you think your list wasn't counted?
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Post by Onderhond » May 21st, 2020, 6:21 pm

For the same reason your list is public and probably wasn't counted unless you specifically posted it in that thread? :D

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Post by mjf314 » May 21st, 2020, 6:46 pm

Onderhond wrote:
May 21st, 2020, 4:52 pm
Still a bit of a fluke though. I submitted my list but never published it one the forum, some other dude took it upon himself to do the counting (because the organizer is currently MIA) so my submission never really made it.
When you say "submitted", do you mean you sent the organizer a pm, asking him to count your list?

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Post by Onderhond » May 21st, 2020, 6:46 pm

Well no, I'm on the FOK forum and had committed to joining in, but after he'd gone and added my list by himself I didn't see the point of posting in the thread. It's my own fault of course, just a bit of a bummer.
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When you say "submitted", do you mean you sent the organizer a pm, asking him to count your list?
In short, it went like "Hey, new FOK list coming up, wanna play". I said "Sure, will enter on later", got a PM back saying "Don't worry, already added your list to the bunch".

Should've still posted it in the FOK thread to be sure of course, but forgot to do that.

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Post by Gorro » May 21st, 2020, 6:50 pm

Onderhond wrote:
May 21st, 2020, 6:21 pm
For the same reason your list is public and probably wasn't counted unless you specifically posted it in that thread? :D
In the OP of the forum post it says that to submit a list you have to post in that thread. I don't see a post from you. If you arranged with the original organizer that you submitted your list via PM, then this is an unfortunate side effect of the fact that the original organizer went MIA.

Your list indeed was not counted, but according to the rules in the OP of that thread you also didn't submit a list.

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Post by Onderhond » May 21st, 2020, 8:38 pm

Yeah. What I said above ;)

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Post by Fergenaprido » May 29th, 2020, 6:24 am

The Art & Faith list (formerly Spiritually Significant list) has been updated, since the website just concluded the latest poll. As a result of a changing user base compared to 9 years ago, and the addition of a one-film-per-director rule, there are 57 new films on the list.

New source - http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?/film ... 0-top-100/
Updated list - https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/arts ... 100+films/

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » May 29th, 2020, 6:40 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
May 29th, 2020, 6:24 am
The Art & Faith list (formerly Spiritually Significant list) has been updated, since the website just concluded the latest poll. As a result of a changing user base compared to 9 years ago, and the addition of a one-film-per-director rule, there are 57 new films on the list.

New source - http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?/film ... 0-top-100/
Updated list - https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/arts ... 100+films/
You should fix the link in the description.

That's an interesting update, some films I really would not have expected to be contextually relevant to the list, but I'm not objecting.

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Post by Ebbywebby » May 29th, 2020, 7:00 am

Cool..."Dead Man Walking" was on my "Favorite Unofficial Checks" list.

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Post by Fergenaprido » May 29th, 2020, 7:35 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
May 29th, 2020, 6:40 am
Fergenaprido wrote:
May 29th, 2020, 6:24 am
The Art & Faith list (formerly Spiritually Significant list) has been updated, since the website just concluded the latest poll. As a result of a changing user base compared to 9 years ago, and the addition of a one-film-per-director rule, there are 57 new films on the list.

New source - http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?/film ... 0-top-100/
Updated list - https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/arts ... 100+films/
You should fix the link in the description.

That's an interesting update, some films I really would not have expected to be contextually relevant to the list, but I'm not objecting.
I fixed the link and updated the description when I added the films. Does it not show the new URL for you?

Edit: Okay, yeah, I messed up the BBCode. An errant [ instead of ]. Fixed now.

And yeah, some interesting inclusions. Also lost my bronze, but it's not a list I actively work on, so I'm not too bothered by it. Incidentally, I lost my silver on the latest FOK update, but it still hasn't disappeared from my trophy case and I haven't received the email about it changing.

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#2979

Post by Tim2460 » May 29th, 2020, 7:46 am

Just in time for the month list rebuiding : Thx for the Update Fergenaprido !

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Post by 72aicm » May 29th, 2020, 8:30 am

Fuck yeah! I’ve tried to make The Work official for years. About time!

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Post by dirty_score » May 29th, 2020, 10:40 am

:imdb: lists aren't updating, as well ICM favorites and most checked. What seems to be the problem?

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Post by sortile9io » May 29th, 2020, 12:32 pm

How can you rank Scorsese and Lee higher that Bresson, Buñuel, Kieslowski, Ray and Bergman on a list about faith and spirituality? :satstunned:

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Post by OldAle1 » May 29th, 2020, 12:47 pm

Wow I lost 16 there - down from 90 to 74. Wasn't a list I ever really thought about, I'm surprised I actually had a gold there. Interesting.

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Post by Tim2460 » May 29th, 2020, 12:55 pm

Lost the Platinium for 7 checks.

Of thoses 3 are already on my watchlist.

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Post by Tasselfoot » May 29th, 2020, 12:58 pm

Damn. Wasn't expecting that list to update. Went from Plat to 82/100. Guess I have a new list to work on again... gotta get that Plat back.

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Post by Fergenaprido » May 29th, 2020, 2:37 pm

sortile9io wrote:
May 29th, 2020, 12:32 pm
How can you rank Scorsese and Lee higher that Bresson, Buñuel, Kieslowski, Ray and Bergman on a list about faith and spirituality? :satstunned:
I was reading their threads when I did the update to make sure I had all the correct information. They were voting for films, not directors, and they only decided upon the 1-per-director rule part-way through the process.
Plus, if I recall correctly, it's no longer strictly a list about faith and spirituality, which is why they changed the name of the list too. I don't know the exact parameters of which films they choose, but it seems they do a lot of discussing and advocating. Each person can only nominate 25 films, and they then do some sort of ranking from that shortlist.
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Damn. Wasn't expecting that list to update. Went from Plat to 82/100. Guess I have a new list to work on again... gotta get that Plat back.
It looks like this is the 4th or 5th edition. Like many forums, it seems their community has gotten smaller over the past decade, but they have a dedicated core group. They are planning to write a book about this top 100 as well. They do a bunch of Top 25 lists on various themes each year, so I'd expect another Top 100 list to happen again in 2025 or 2030.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » June 5th, 2020, 9:49 am

I updated the MoC list, who announced a great line-up for August:
The Man Who Laughs (1928)
Buster Keaton: 3 Films (Volume 3): Our Hospitality (1923), Go West (1925) & College (1927)
Five Graves to Cairo (1943)

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Post by brokenface » June 5th, 2020, 1:30 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
June 5th, 2020, 9:49 am
I updated the MoC list, who announced a great line-up for August:
The Man Who Laughs (1928)
Buster Keaton: 3 Films (Volume 3): Our Hospitality (1923), Go West (1925) & College (1927)
Five Graves to Cairo (1943)
Yeah loving the Buster Keaton sets. I've only picked up vol1 so far, but definitely will be getting 2 & 3. And with Criterion doing The Cameraman (+Spite Marriage as an extra), you can now get almost all of his prime work in nice editions.

It's good they've gone back to silents more again, seemed they didn't do so many for a while. In the early days, when I first started collecting them, silents and Japanese seemed to be the house specialties and they introduced me to a lot of great stuff. Wish they went back to more Japanese classics too. Upgrade of Kwaidan was the first one in ages.

btw good offer here on some of their silents: https://eurekavideo.co.uk/promotions/silent-sale/

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Post by shugs » June 7th, 2020, 8:58 am

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/asoc ... ian+films/

Asociatiei Criticilor de Film should be renamed to Asociatia Criticilor de Film.

"Asociatiei" is in the genitive case, in the nominative case it's "Asociatia". Talk about terms I haven't used since middle school. :lol:

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Post by joachimt » June 7th, 2020, 9:11 am

But the sourcepage says "Asociatiei". :shrug:
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Post by shugs » June 7th, 2020, 9:24 am

Yes, the article mentions "presedintele Asociatiei Criticilor de Film" which translates to "the president of the Film Critics Association" or the "Film Critics Association's president".

In English possessives are created by adding the 's at the end of words, while in Romanian they are created by changing the ending of the noun (with different endings for masculine or feminine nouns --- Asociatie is a feminine noun, for example). You can see in the row for Genitiv/Dativ how it works: https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articol_h ... Etimologie

The way the list name sounds like now is "of the Film Critics Association's Best Romanian Films"

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Post by joachimt » June 7th, 2020, 10:26 am

Ah, thanks for the explanation. I'll update it.
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Post by joachimt » June 9th, 2020, 4:00 pm

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+ ... e+you+die/
I just replaced Cremaster 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 with The Cremaster Cycle. Parts 1, 2, 4 and 5 are now no longer official checks.
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Post by Ebbywebby » June 9th, 2020, 6:47 pm

Hrm, I would have gone the other way and turned "The Cremaster Cycle" unofficial.

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Post by joachimt » June 9th, 2020, 7:42 pm

Ebbywebby wrote:
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Hrm, I would have gone the other way and turned "The Cremaster Cycle" unofficial.
To save checks?
We did the same in the past with Dog Star Man and Histoires du Cinema.
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Post by Ebbywebby » June 9th, 2020, 7:55 pm

Well, "'The Cremaster Cycle" doesn't even seem like a proper thing to me. It feels to me like saying "the James Bond series" or "MCU movies." Is it possible to buy any product titled "The Cremaster Cycle"?

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Post by OldAle1 » June 9th, 2020, 8:01 pm

Ebbywebby wrote:
June 9th, 2020, 7:55 pm
Well, "'The Cremaster Cycle" doesn't even seem like a proper thing to me. It feels to me like saying "the James Bond series" or "MCU movies." Is it possible to buy any product titled "The Cremaster Cycle"?
If you've got hundreds of thousands (millions?) of dollars to spend on OP standard-def DVDs, sure.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » June 9th, 2020, 8:03 pm

Ebbywebby wrote:
June 9th, 2020, 7:55 pm
Well, "'The Cremaster Cycle" doesn't even seem like a proper thing to me. It feels to me like saying "the James Bond series" or "MCU movies." Is it possible to buy any product titled "The Cremaster Cycle"?
I know it's not what you were getting at, but, LOL

The full series was released in a limited series of 20 sets of DVDs, sold for at least $100,000 each, in custom packaging and as fine art, rather than mass-market movies.[4] In 2007 one disc (Cremaster 2) sold for $571,000.[5]

The films are not available on mass-market DVDs, and according to the press release for the 2010 US tour, the cycle "is Not Now Nor Will it Ever be Available on DVD".[6][7] The films are primarily available via periodic screenings.[8][9] Palm Pictures, the distributor, has continued to comply with Barney's request, and has not made the series available on DVD, though there were some rumors and announcements to this effect in 2003.[10][11] Only a 31-minute excerpt, the Guggenheim scene from Cremaster 3 entitled “The Order,” was released on mass-market DVD in 2003.

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Post by erde » June 9th, 2020, 9:04 pm

Ebbywebby wrote:
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Well, "'The Cremaster Cycle" doesn't even seem like a proper thing to me. It feels to me like saying "the James Bond series" or "MCU movies." Is it possible to buy any product titled "The Cremaster Cycle"?
The cycle is usually shown as a whole (although you can watch only individual parts of it if you want), and it's marketed as a one long film, too. At least that's how it was when it was shown in my city.
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Post by beavis » June 10th, 2020, 5:38 am

they were made (and shown at festivals) over a period several years (1995 - 2003) as seperate movies. I only had an oppurtunity to watch them when Cremaster 3 got made, completing the cycle, and watched them from 1 - 5 integrally. Even then the 5 movies were presented seperately, with their own credits and without additional edditing. The movies are linked by various overarcing theme's, but are still clearly seperate to me. There was also a big book and a lot of sculpture (shown at least at the Guggenheim I think) as part of this project/cycle... so if we want to cover that all with this single check it's cool, but to appreciate the movies, single checks make more sense...

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