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Post by PGonzalez » August 17th, 2019, 2:35 pm

Vitalina Varela just won at Locarno :party:

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Post by jeroeno » August 17th, 2019, 3:25 pm

Pedro Costa :worship:

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Post by albajos » August 18th, 2019, 2:12 am

It was also in the main program in Berlin this year, so it's a safe watch

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Post by xianjiro » August 18th, 2019, 5:05 am

for a minute I thought the title was Ut og stjæle hustruer

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Post by Nathan Treadway » August 18th, 2019, 4:49 pm

albajos wrote:
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It was also in the main program in Berlin this year, so it's a safe watch
Define "safe watch"

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Post by albajos » August 18th, 2019, 5:10 pm

Nathan Treadway wrote:
August 18th, 2019, 4:49 pm
albajos wrote:
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It was also in the main program in Berlin this year, so it's a safe watch
Define "safe watch"
It won the silver bear for best cinematography

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Post by Lilarcor » August 18th, 2019, 5:44 pm

German critics have been very positive on the film, in Norway they are more lukewarm. I admire it for trying to do something slightly different and taking some chances as an adaptation from a popular book, but ultimately I find it too straightjacketed, particularly in the storytelling. Weirdly bad acting (I think generally this has improved in Norwegian cinema lately, this is not the case here). Pretty move to look at, but the film could have gained from having been shot on 35mm, I think, because of some scenes that are working with texture. But the film has an awesome use of sound that really helps on this point (the music is however mostly inappropiate). Cutting on film would have also helped to enhance the fragmented feel of the narrative.

With only three fims in the final nomination for the award though the competition wasn't great (not seen Harajuku, seems like it might have had a chance). I doubt that those three films were the three best from last year, the Amanda jury often get a bit uninspired when nominating, and sometimes selecting a winner, too. Ut og stjæle hustruer is far from the worst film on the official list, but director Hans Petter Moland's own Kjærlighetens kjøtere is better.

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Post by albajos » August 18th, 2019, 5:50 pm

Yes, I was kind of surprised that Blindsone (Blind Spot) or Psychobtch weren't nominated instead of Skjelvet (The Quake)

They had to take after Bølgen and Børning won in 14/15 and Oslo, 31. august wasn't even nominated for best film. Basically what would happen if the Oscars also had a category for "best popular film" (which they considered), but Norway made it the main one.

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Post by joachimt » August 20th, 2019, 4:57 pm

I just added 63 Up to Ebert's list.
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Post by 72allinncallme » August 20th, 2019, 5:03 pm

joachimt wrote:
August 20th, 2019, 4:57 pm
I just added 63 Up to Ebert's list.
:poshclap:

Was planning on seing it this month either way, but now I’ve got to hurry. I need that plat back! :cowbow:

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Post by beasterne » August 20th, 2019, 5:09 pm

joachimt wrote:
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I just added 63 Up to Ebert's list.
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Post by Coryn » August 21st, 2019, 1:00 pm

2010s movies are underrepresented in official toplists according to my waterproof statistics.
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Post by joachimt » August 21st, 2019, 1:11 pm

Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:00 pm
2010s movies are underrepresented in official toplists according to my waterproof statistics.
I thought almost every movie with a mayor cinema release enters the Box Office list. :whistling:
But otherwise, I'm not surprised by that statistic.
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Post by Coryn » August 21st, 2019, 1:15 pm

joachimt wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:11 pm
Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:00 pm
2010s movies are underrepresented in official toplists according to my waterproof statistics.
I thought almost every movie with a mayor cinema release enters the Box Office list. :whistling:
But otherwise, I'm not surprised by that statistic.
I've been working some things out in excel yesterday while watching some football, might post it on the forum sooner or later but the results are what I expected. Might be confirmation bias as they are not waterproof at all but it's interesting to say the least.
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Post by blueboybob » August 21st, 2019, 1:37 pm

I'm getting real tired of the IMDB Mini-Series list. Those things are not easy to watch and just when I finish it there is another one!

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Post by albajos » August 21st, 2019, 1:38 pm

Nobody is forcing you

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Post by Coryn » August 21st, 2019, 1:54 pm

joachimt wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:11 pm
Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:00 pm
2010s movies are underrepresented in official toplists according to my waterproof statistics.
I thought almost every movie with a mayor cinema release enters the Box Office list. :whistling:
But otherwise, I'm not surprised by that statistic.
I only calculated for movies on 3 + lists so I'm going to redo everything on at least 1 official list. I'm curious but I think most of it will stay the same except for the box office list indeed.
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Post by joachimt » August 21st, 2019, 2:18 pm

Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:54 pm
joachimt wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:11 pm
Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:00 pm
2010s movies are underrepresented in official toplists according to my waterproof statistics.
I thought almost every movie with a mayor cinema release enters the Box Office list. :whistling:
But otherwise, I'm not surprised by that statistic.
I only calculated for movies on 3 + lists so I'm going to redo everything on at least 1 official list. I'm curious but I think most of it will stay the same except for the box office list indeed.
That makes a lot of difference. A lot of recent official movies are only on 1 list: 21st Century or Box Office or TSZDT.
On the other hand, lots of older official movies are on 1 list as well.
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Post by Coryn » August 21st, 2019, 3:05 pm

joachimt wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 2:18 pm
Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:54 pm
joachimt wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:11 pm

I thought almost every movie with a mayor cinema release enters the Box Office list. :whistling:
But otherwise, I'm not surprised by that statistic.
I only calculated for movies on 3 + lists so I'm going to redo everything on at least 1 official list. I'm curious but I think most of it will stay the same except for the box office list indeed.
That makes a lot of difference. A lot of recent official movies are only on 1 list: 21st Century or Box Office or TSZDT.
On the other hand, lots of older official movies are on 1 list as well.
We'll see what the effect is but on 3 plus official toplists there were trends on older movies being on more lists than newer movies. More will follow this week.
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Post by Nathan Treadway » August 21st, 2019, 4:42 pm

Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 3:05 pm
joachimt wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 2:18 pm
Coryn wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:54 pm


I only calculated for movies on 3 + lists so I'm going to redo everything on at least 1 official list. I'm curious but I think most of it will stay the same except for the box office list indeed.
That makes a lot of difference. A lot of recent official movies are only on 1 list: 21st Century or Box Office or TSZDT.
On the other hand, lots of older official movies are on 1 list as well.
We'll see what the effect is but on 3 plus official toplists there were trends on older movies being on more lists than newer movies. More will follow this week.
That would make sense, as there's plenty of lists that don't get updated, and haven't for years. Basically, for new releases, if it isn't tagged in 100 genres on IMDb and performs well there, or isn't an awards darling, it's not really going to be on a bunch of lists.

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Post by albajos » August 21st, 2019, 5:20 pm

and it's very easy to spot - Top movie from each decade

1950s - 42 lists
1960s - 42 lists
1970s - 38 lists
1940s - 36 lists
2000s - 36 lists
1990s - 35 lists
1930s - 34 lists
1920s - 33 lists
1980s - 31 lists
1910s - 22 lists
2010s - 17 lists
1900s - 13 lists
1890s - 11 lists
1880s - 1 list
1870s - 0 lists

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Post by Ebbywebby » August 21st, 2019, 7:31 pm

blueboybob wrote:
August 21st, 2019, 1:37 pm
I'm getting real tired of the IMDB Mini-Series list. Those things are not easy to watch and just when I finish it there is another one!
I can't believe "Roots" isn't on that list.

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Post by lynchs » August 25th, 2019, 3:19 pm

PGonzalez wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 2:35 pm
Vitalina Varela just won at Locarno :party:
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Saw it last week and it was well worth it! :cheers:

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 27th, 2019, 5:03 am

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https://theprint.in/india/2-months-afte ... et/265912/

Been waiting for an update for two months, guess I'll have to keep waiting.
This was announced a couple of weeks ago. Just updated the list. https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/story/ ... 2019-08-09

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 30th, 2019, 9:50 pm

Seppuku/Harakiri and Capharnaüm/Capernaum have both entered the imdb Top 250, the former coming in at #29, the later at #119. Will be interesting to see how Harakiri moves now that it will be exposed to a much larger userbase. Capernaum will undoubtedly drop, but may end up securing a place in the list in the long term.

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Post by blocho » August 30th, 2019, 10:14 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 9:50 pm
Seppuku/Harakiri and Capharnaüm/Capernaum have both entered the imdb Top 250, the former coming in at #29, the later at #119. Will be interesting to see how Harakiri moves now that it will be exposed to a much larger userbase. Capernaum will undoubtedly drop, but may end up securing a place in the list in the long term.
Can someone clue me in on how that list actually works. How does a movie from 1962 suddenly enter the list at #29 without first moving up through the ranks?

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Post by albajos » August 30th, 2019, 10:15 pm

blocho wrote:
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Can someone clue me in on how that list actually works. How does a movie from 1962 suddenly enter the list at #29 without first moving up through the ranks?
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Post by blocho » August 30th, 2019, 10:22 pm

albajos wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:15 pm
blocho wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:14 pm
Can someone clue me in on how that list actually works. How does a movie from 1962 suddenly enter the list at #29 without first moving up through the ranks?
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Post by Nathan Treadway » August 30th, 2019, 11:36 pm

Harakiri actually used to be on the list before the upped the vote threshold. It just recently surpassed the 25k needed to reappear on the list.

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 31st, 2019, 6:00 am

blocho wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:22 pm
albajos wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:15 pm
blocho wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:14 pm
Can someone clue me in on how that list actually works. How does a movie from 1962 suddenly enter the list at #29 without first moving up through the ranks?
25 000 votes needed
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You can see it's history in the Top 250 here: https://250.took.nl/title/tt0056058
When it was last in the list, the weighted rating was only 8.1 with 9,402 votes: https://250.took.nl/history/2012/7/18/full
Now it's weighted rating is 8.5 with 25,000+ votes. The actual rating is 8.8, so either as more people see it (and like it) the more it will climb higher to it's actual rating, or the more people see it (and don't like it) the more it's rating will drop to it's weighted rating (and probably the rank will drop too).

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Post by blocho » August 31st, 2019, 6:09 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 6:00 am
blocho wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:22 pm
albajos wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 10:15 pm

25 000 votes needed
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You can see it's history in the Top 250 here: https://250.took.nl/title/tt0056058
When it was last in the list, the weighted rating was only 8.1 with 9,402 votes: https://250.took.nl/history/2012/7/18/full
Now it's weighted rating is 8.5 with 25,000+ votes. The actual rating is 8.8, so either as more people see it (and like it) the more it will climb higher to it's actual rating, or the more people see it (and don't like it) the more it's rating will drop to it's weighted rating (and probably the rank will drop too).
Those links are a very cool feature. Thanks for sharing.

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Post by Coryn » August 31st, 2019, 6:56 am

2 Tarkovskys going out though. Zerkalo & Solyaris
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Post by Fergenaprido » August 31st, 2019, 7:07 am

Coryn wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 6:56 am
2 Tarkovskys going out though. Zerkalo & Solyaris
The bottom always fluctuates a lot. They've both popped back in recently due to the algorithm changes, so I doubt they're gone for long. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is dropping fast, so it'll be out of the list soon.

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Post by Simba63 » August 31st, 2019, 2:52 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 7:07 am
Coryn wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 6:56 am
2 Tarkovskys going out though. Zerkalo & Solyaris
The bottom always fluctuates a lot. They've both popped back in recently due to the algorithm changes, so I doubt they're gone for long. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is dropping fast, so it'll be out of the list soon.
I've noticed that too about OUATIH. Took is a great sight I've been using for years. I have always been intrigued by the IMDb Top 250 even though I know it has it's flaws.

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 31st, 2019, 4:41 pm

Yeah, I've been using took for ages too.

Also, other interesting tidbits: The Lebanese film Capharnaum came in just below Incendies, a Canadian film largely set in Lebanon.
Aladdin (1992 cartoon version) returned to the list after 20 years, probably due to the hype of the remake. Beauty and the Beast (1991) also returned to the list for a spell when the remake was released.

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Post by Coryn » September 7th, 2019, 11:09 am

Can we talk about IMDB's documentary top 50?

It's full of concerts which can hardly be put in the documentary category...
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Post by albajos » September 7th, 2019, 1:26 pm

No, we can't.

Concerts themselves are clearly documentary. THere is a bunch of fly-on-the-wall documenatries that isn't about music, do you want the documentary genre gone from those as well?
And the stuff on the list are mostly tour films, so they go beyond just a concert anyway.

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Post by 72allinncallme » September 7th, 2019, 2:27 pm

If I’m not mistaken, Habitual Sadness is now on IMDb and should be added to the Asian Cinema: A Field Guide list.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3956448/?r ... f_=nv_sr_1

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/najeun+moksori+2/

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Post by 72allinncallme » September 7th, 2019, 3:06 pm

And probably one more:
Bride from Hell – Xin Qi (1965)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1511346/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/di+yu+xin+niang/

Source: https://books.google.no/books?id=YYubb- ... or&f=false

(Nothing on his Dangerous Youth (1969) though. IMDb have one 1969 movie credited in his name. But without the book and an English AKA then it’s impossible to know if it’s the correct entry.)

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