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Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 2:07 pm
by bal3x
frbrown wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 6:56 pm
Just two films again. If my math is correct, at the pace of two films per month it should take 8 years until the list is completed.
Any idea why this is taking so long? I mean I understand busy periods with the 2 big lists, but 2 films per month??

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 4:30 pm
by WalterNeff
bal3x wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 2:07 pm
frbrown wrote:
June 12th, 2019, 6:56 pm
Just two films again. If my math is correct, at the pace of two films per month it should take 8 years until the list is completed.
Any idea why this is taking so long? I mean I understand busy periods with the 2 big lists, but 2 films per month??
Life is a bitter mystery

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 8:41 am
by Apu

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 9:41 am
by WalterNeff
Updated

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 11:13 pm
by MilenaFlaherty
Does the NYT not do updates anymore?

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 11:44 pm
by PeacefulAnarchy
MilenaFlaherty wrote:
June 21st, 2019, 11:13 pm
Does the NYT not do updates anymore?
The 1000 film list? I don't think so. I think they just did one update many years ago.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 25th, 2019, 4:25 am
by max-scl
Roma won the Ariel

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 25th, 2019, 4:34 am
by PeacefulAnarchy
Got it.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 27th, 2019, 11:01 am
by albajos
Have someone forgotten this one on the Criterion list?
https://www.criterion.com/films/29513-waiting-women

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/kvinnors+vantan/
Maybe some of the others from the Ingmar Bergman's Cinema box set might be missing as well.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 27th, 2019, 11:58 am
by zuma
albajos wrote:
June 27th, 2019, 11:01 am
Have someone forgotten this one on the Criterion list?
https://www.criterion.com/films/29513-waiting-women

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/kvinnors+vantan/
Maybe some of the others from the Ingmar Bergman's Cinema box set might be missing as well.
The Bergman box is not part of the Criterion list.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1699&start=720

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 27th, 2019, 12:17 pm
by albajos
But it does have the Criterion Collection logo in front of all movies. So seems Criterion disagrees.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 27th, 2019, 12:21 pm
by zuma
albajos wrote:
June 27th, 2019, 12:17 pm
But it does have the Criterion Collection logo in front of all movies. So seems Criterion disagrees.
If you read the thread you will see it is rehashed repeatedly.

Boils down to: If it does not have a spine number it is not included in that list.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: June 27th, 2019, 12:28 pm
by albajos
We're missing the laserdisc releases then. All those have spine numbers.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 2nd, 2019, 6:25 pm
by Nathan Treadway

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 2nd, 2019, 6:34 pm
by xianjiro
Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:25 pm
What's up with the name change of https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/imdbs+top+sci-fi/
start reading this thread here viewtopic.php?p=584904#p584904

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 2nd, 2019, 6:44 pm
by Nathan Treadway
xianjiro wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:34 pm
Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:25 pm
What's up with the name change of https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/imdbs+top+sci-fi/
start reading this thread here viewtopic.php?p=584904#p584904
:cheers: Thanks for that. I hadn't seen that post, and was wondering what was going on when I was updating my spreadsheet yesterday. Now, I'm going to have to update the master sheet to reflect this.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 2nd, 2019, 6:47 pm
by xianjiro
Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:44 pm
xianjiro wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:34 pm
Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:25 pm
What's up with the name change of https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/imdbs+top+sci-fi/
start reading this thread here viewtopic.php?p=584904#p584904
:cheers: Thanks for that. I hadn't seen that post, and was wondering what was going on when I was updating my spreadsheet yesterday. Now, I'm going to have to update the master sheet to reflect this.
crap - hadn't thought of that (updating spreadsheet). Hopefully someone will detail the changes here to make that a bit easier (since it appears the discussion has been held on the mods only channel). Otherwise, I'm sure I'll miss something.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 2nd, 2019, 6:53 pm
by maxwelldeux
xianjiro wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:47 pm
Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:44 pm
xianjiro wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 6:34 pm


start reading this thread here viewtopic.php?p=584904#p584904
:cheers: Thanks for that. I hadn't seen that post, and was wondering what was going on when I was updating my spreadsheet yesterday. Now, I'm going to have to update the master sheet to reflect this.
crap - hadn't thought of that (updating spreadsheet). Hopefully someone will detail the changes here to make that a bit easier (since it appears the discussion has been held on the mods only channel). Otherwise, I'm sure I'll miss something.
Yeah, I noticed that when I was doing my month-end spreadsheet update yesterday. I'm holding off until changes are implemented.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 3rd, 2019, 3:50 pm
by joachimt
I'll notify here about all title changes once I'm done.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 3rd, 2019, 4:45 pm
by xianjiro
joachimt wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 3:50 pm
I'll notify here about all title changes once I'm done.
great! :thumbsup: thanks in advance!

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 4th, 2019, 6:26 pm
by dirty_score
The source links now to lists created by PA. Maybe the cutoff could be changed as well? Shake things a little bit. The 2000's list only has a mininum of 1500 checks.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 4th, 2019, 7:46 pm
by joachimt
I have renamed them all in the way PA suggested above. Except for Top 250, which simply became "IMDb's Top 250" of course.

I also removed "TV" from the name of "TV Mini-series", because TV doesn't fit nowadays. Mini-series can be released on other platforms as well. So that list is now called "IMDb's Mini-series Top 50".

Here are all the old names and urls and all the new names and urls.
https://we.tl/t-VW8l5kZjfD

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 4th, 2019, 7:47 pm
by joachimt
dirty_score wrote:
July 4th, 2019, 6:26 pm
The source links now to lists created by PA. Maybe the cutoff could be changed as well? Shake things a little bit. The 2000's list only has a mininum of 1500 checks.
This is nothing new. Has been like that for quite a while.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 1:47 am
by xianjiro
joachimt wrote:
July 4th, 2019, 7:46 pm
I have renamed them all in the way PA suggested above. Except for Top 250, which simply became "IMDb's Top 250" of course.

I also removed "TV" from the name of "TV Mini-series", because TV doesn't fit nowadays. Mini-series can be released on other platforms as well. So that list is now called "IMDb's Mini-series Top 50".

Here are all the old names and urls and all the new names and urls.
https://we.tl/t-VW8l5kZjfD
thanks heaps for the spreadsheet! :worship:

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 11:41 am
by flaiky
Good change, I've always found it weird that the IMDb factor wasn't mentioned anywhere.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 11:44 am
by 72allinncallme
Remember to tell Marjin to change the urls in the Awards update message.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 12:01 pm
by joachimt
72allinncallme wrote:
July 5th, 2019, 11:44 am
Remember to tell Marjin to change the urls in the Awards update message.
No need. It works already. I just tested it.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 1:28 pm
by albajos
I wish all other list changes would show up in that message, not only the imdb ones

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 5th, 2019, 1:37 pm
by joachimt
albajos wrote:
July 5th, 2019, 1:28 pm
I wish all other list changes would show up in that message, not only the imdb ones
If you're talking about listupdate-messages: That's something Marijn plans to implement in 3.0 if you follow a list.

72a was talking about awards updates though.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 7th, 2019, 12:53 pm
by Nathan Treadway
So, the redirect broke one of my lists (This is supposed to be my 2010's list). Guess I'll have to edit the title before the next poll. :lol:

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 7th, 2019, 6:26 pm
by PeacefulAnarchy
Nathan Treadway wrote:
July 7th, 2019, 12:53 pm
So, the redirect broke one of my lists (This is supposed to be my 2010's list). Guess I'll have to edit the title before the next poll. :lol:
It should work in the beta, so you can edit the title there. You might need to know a title on it to find it, though.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 8th, 2019, 1:16 am
by Nathan Treadway
I'm able to edit it just fine from my list of lists, I just found it rather funny, and wanted to let others who will be in the same situation know.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 4:41 pm
by Apu

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 4:56 pm
by xianjiro
Fight Club is transgressive fiction - I don't really get how that or it ties in with Film Noir. Odd choice.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 10:09 pm
by WalterNeff
xianjiro wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:56 pm
Fight Club is transgressive fiction - I don't really get how that or it ties in with Film Noir. Odd choice.
Updated. The first rule of the TSPDT Noir list is that we don't talk about replacing it.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 10:19 pm
by xianjiro
WalterNeff wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 10:09 pm
xianjiro wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 4:56 pm
Fight Club is transgressive fiction - I don't really get how that or it ties in with Film Noir. Odd choice.
Updated. The first rule of the TSPDT Noir list is that we don't talk about replacing it.
That's cool. I know it's at least as holy as TSZDT. But I'm still a bit baffled by Fight Club's inclusion.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 11th, 2019, 11:22 pm
by Ebbywebby
Terrible addition. But at least "Fight Club" isn't one of the 400 or so crummy Z-movies that are official only because of the 1000 Noirs list.

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 12th, 2019, 12:45 am
by WalterNeff
Ebbywebby wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 11:22 pm
Terrible addition. But at least "Fight Club" isn't one of the 400 or so crummy Z-movies that are official only because of the 1000 Noirs list.
I may have to reconsider my recent friend request Ebby ;-)

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 14th, 2019, 7:09 pm
by Leopardi
I was wondering how the percentage of official films I've seen has evolved over the years, and to do that I'd need to know the total number of official films as a function of time. I'm not sure there's an easy way to find this information (if there is, please let me know!), even the Wayback Machine doesn't seem to have it as far as I can see. So, I've gone through forum posts, searching in increments of 100 for references to the total number at any given time. In case anyone's interested, here's what I've found (and note that I've ignored the 'more than', 'nearly' , etc. modifiers since these are just rough estimates):

July 14, 2019: 15249
April 6, 2018: 15000
March 9, 2017: 14500 (I believe the drop here is due to the Brief Encounters list reduction in February)
September 25, 2016: 14600
December 17, 2015: ~14180 (a fairly big jump in a relatively short period, due primarily, I think, to the adoption of the TSZDT list in October)
August 25, 2015: 13600 (lots of new lists adopted since the last reference, in addition to the expansion of the 21st Century's Most Acclaimed Movies list in March 2015)
January 21, 2014: 12000 (lots of new lists adopted since the last reference and (I think) Walter's expanded noir list was adopted, maybe in October 2013?)
September 7, 2012: 9000
July 24, 2011: 7000

If you catch any mistakes in the list above, or have any information on past official checks totals, I'd appreciate your input - thanks!

Re: Official lists updates

Posted: July 14th, 2019, 9:28 pm
by PeacefulAnarchy
Maybe not 100% accurate, since official list counts haven't always been accurate but here's some data:
(I'm still looking to see how far I have data)
May 1 2019 15185
Apr 1 2019 15176
Mar 1 15170
Feb 1 15074
Jan 1 15049
Dec 2018 15037
Nov 2018 15032
OCt 2018 15009
Sep 2018 15001
Aug 2018 14989
Jul 2018 14980
Jun 2018 14977
May 2018 14894
Apr 2018 14869
Mar 2018 14859
Feb 2018 14854
Jan 2018 14987
Dec 2017 14967
Nov 2017 14959
OCt 2017 14920
Sep 2017 14936
Aug 2017 14893
Jul 2017 14881
Jun 2017 14758
May 2017 14730
Apr 2017 14692
Mar 2017 14719
Feb 2017 14708
Jan 2017 14695
Dec 2016 14657
Nov 2016 14640
OCt 2016 14629
Sep 2016 14623
Aug 2016 14637
Jul 2016 14629
Jun 2016 14482
May 2016 14455
Apr 2016
Mar 2016
Feb 2016 14186
Jan 2016 14159
Dec 2015 14137
Nov 2015 14132
OCt 2015 13629
Sep 2015 13604
Aug 2015 13615
Jul 2015 13609
Jun 2015 13001
May 2015 12912
Apr 2015 12908
Mar 2015 12591
Feb 2015 12561
Jan 2015 12546
Dec 2014 12508
Nov 2014 12505
OCt 2014
Sep 2014 12482
Aug 2014 12464
Jul 2014 11873
Jun 2014 11888
May 2014 11835
Apr 2014 11829
Mar 2014 11838
Feb 2014 11826
Jan 2014 11811 (Noir and AFa lists adopted here)
Dec 2013 10590
Nov 2013 10577
OCt 2013 10167
Sep 2013 10159
Aug 2013 9859
Jul 2013 9689
Jun 2013 9682
May 2013 9681
Apr 2013 9196
Mar 2013 9193
Feb 2013 9195
Jan 2013 9186
Dec 2012 9172
Nov 2012
OCt 20 2012 9170
Sep 2012
Aug 20 2012 9134
That's the oldest I have right now. UNESCO and a bunch of others were adopted Aug 2012.