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Post by xianjiro » May 8th, 2017, 9:02 pm

joachimt on May 8 2017, 05:47:17 AM wrote:
sol on May 8 2017, 05:41:49 AM wrote:...people who don't check porn movies that they've seen.

LOL, would you?
Let me repeat this joke:

I wouldn't know. I always finish before the movie does and I don't check movies I have seen only a portion of. :folded:
you mean people watch porn titles to credits? :blink:

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Post by xianjiro » May 8th, 2017, 9:03 pm

joachimt on May 8 2017, 05:48:22 AM wrote:I just realized I watched and checked Deep Throat not so long ago. I decided I had to see the classic.
I didn't finish though. :lol:
the movie? :unsure: or ...

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Post by xianjiro » May 8th, 2017, 9:13 pm

blueboybob on May 8 2017, 08:05:20 AM wrote:But there are also:
...people who check movies they haven't actually seen.
Used to be me. I'd check the impossible to find stuff or lost stuff. I have seen the light. I am reformed. Please forgive me for I sinned in the past. I am clean now.
But you haven't done your penance yet - I believe it has something to do with Brakhage's entire catalog and that darling little movie viewing chair from Clockwork Orange. -_-

And yes, some people are quite persnickety about the rules around here. But don't let them get you down, just remember which list you are checking films on ... and keep a copy of all things subtitled so you can prove you actually did see that Uzbeki yak herding documentary from 1932 known only to exist in Putin's private collection.

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Post by albajos » May 8th, 2017, 9:30 pm

xianjiro on May 8 2017, 03:02:58 PM wrote:
joachimt on May 8 2017, 05:47:17 AM wrote:
sol on May 8 2017, 05:41:49 AM wrote:...people who don't check porn movies that they've seen.

LOL, would you?
Let me repeat this joke:

I wouldn't know. I always finish before the movie does and I don't check movies I have seen only a portion of. :folded:
you mean people watch porn titles to credits? :blink:
If you want a check, yes.

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If you all don't want to watch movies like that, why have you even added lists that contain these? I would think nobody would ask for a list called the "100 best porn movies", since porn do not have any qualities you expect from a movie.

Actual art is supposed to provoke, so movies as art are also supposed to provoke/make you think/challenge yourself intellectually. And thereby be controversial to some. Looking at Tim Dirks's list, he really has misunderstood the whole definition. Throwing out arbitrary reasons way outside the movies themselves. You remove lost movies from lists, why not also movies that noone considers to be movies.

Well, enough of my ranting, but since watching a porn film will never make my life better (which is what I expect movies on lists on a site like is supposed to do) I will never watch any 20 of those regular adult titles with checks. They would only get 1/10 from me anyway, and I have better unofficial films to spend those hours on,

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Post by joachimt » May 8th, 2017, 9:33 pm

albajos on May 8 2017, 03:30:14 PM wrote:I would think nobody would ask for a list called the "100 best porn movies", since porn do not have any qualities you expect from a movie.
You're new here, right? :whistling:
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Post by xianjiro » May 8th, 2017, 9:41 pm

or maybe albajos just doesn't frequent the new list discussions

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Post by albajos » May 8th, 2017, 9:43 pm

joachimt on May 8 2017, 03:33:38 PM wrote:
albajos on May 8 2017, 03:30:14 PM wrote:I would think nobody would ask for a list called the "100 best porn movies", since porn do not have any qualities you expect from a movie.
You're new here, right? :whistling:
My lecturers at the Bachelor in Film Studies could tell me that they did have a student before us that did choose to write about porn for an home exam. End result: F.

It is all about taking the site seriously. 21 porn titles on lists do not help. A Free Ride and Deep Throat could be defended for historic reasons, but the 19 others just seem to be there because they have sex in them.

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Post by 72allinncallme » May 8th, 2017, 10:15 pm

One man's porn is a nother man's art. What about Ai no kôrida (on 16 list btw)? Warhol movies? Where do you draw the line?

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » May 8th, 2017, 10:15 pm

albajos on May 8 2017, 03:43:47 PM wrote:
joachimt on May 8 2017, 03:33:38 PM wrote:
albajos on May 8 2017, 03:30:14 PM wrote:I would think nobody would ask for a list called the "100 best porn movies", since porn do not have any qualities you expect from a movie.
You're new here, right? :whistling:
My lecturers at the Bachelor in Film Studies could tell me that they did have a student before us that did choose to write about porn for an home exam. End result: F.

It is all about taking the site seriously. 21 porn titles on lists do not help. A Free Ride and Deep Throat could be defended for historic reasons, but the 19 others just seem to be there because they have sex in them.
What are the other 19?

Edit: Oh there's a list. Eveready Horton is also there for historical value. I haven't seen Brakhage's Lovemaking but I'd give it the benefit of the doubt and say it's not there just because it has sex. Same for Polissons et galipettes PRobably also true for Tales (1971).

Honestly, half of those adult films aren't porn films in any normal sense. The Muehl films are garbage, but they aren't porn.
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Post by albajos » May 8th, 2017, 10:31 pm

Lovemaking (1968), Edward Penishands (1991), El Paso Wrecking Corp. (1978), Electrosex 1975 (1970), Emanuelle in America (1977), Der geile Wotan (1971), The Man from Onan (1971), Mona: The Virgin Nymph (1970), School Girl (1971), Smart Alec (1951), Sodoma (1970), The Sperminator (1985), Tales (1971), Thundercrack! (1975)

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Documentaries: A History of the Blue Movie (1970), Hvorfor gør de det? (1971), Polissons et galipettes (2002), Room Service 75(1972)

Adult movies focuses on sex. That is the main event of the movie. And focus on genetalia. Just like action in an action movie.

Ai no kôrida or Warhol-movies does neither. They focus on on building characters and telling a story. They are not classified as adult on icm.

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Post by blueboybob » May 9th, 2017, 1:24 pm

When I watch an episode of MST3K I also check the related movie (or short)

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Post by Armoreska » May 9th, 2017, 2:40 pm

blueboybob on May 9 2017, 07:24:29 AM wrote:When I watch an episode of MST3K I also check the related movie (or short)
It'd be odd not to
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Post by blueboybob » May 9th, 2017, 3:10 pm

Armoreska on May 9 2017, 08:40:07 AM wrote:
blueboybob on May 9 2017, 07:24:29 AM wrote:When I watch an episode of MST3K I also check the related movie (or short)
It'd be odd not to
You say that, but I could see members of this forum saying, "they were talking over the movie you didn't get the full experience. NO CHECK!"

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Post by Gershwin » May 9th, 2017, 3:20 pm

blueboybob on May 9 2017, 09:10:30 AM wrote:
Armoreska on May 9 2017, 08:40:07 AM wrote:
blueboybob on May 9 2017, 07:24:29 AM wrote:When I watch an episode of MST3K I also check the related movie (or short)
It'd be odd not to
You say that, but I could see members of this forum saying, "they were talking over the movie you didn't get the full experience. NO CHECK!"
I wouldn't say "no check", because you've seen it and because I'm often looking up things on my phone while watching films as well, so I'm not always paying full attention. But of course it does skew your experience. Everything except actively watching does.
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Post by xianjiro » May 9th, 2017, 7:10 pm

blueboybob on May 9 2017, 09:10:30 AM wrote:
Armoreska on May 9 2017, 08:40:07 AM wrote:
blueboybob on May 9 2017, 07:24:29 AM wrote:When I watch an episode of MST3K I also check the related movie (or short)
It'd be odd not to
You say that, but I could see members of this forum saying, "they were talking over the movie you didn't get the full experience. NO CHECK!"
not to mention some were DUBBED :o

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » May 9th, 2017, 7:18 pm

Don't they often also cut the movie?

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Post by Armoreska » May 9th, 2017, 8:08 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on May 9 2017, 01:18:39 PM wrote:Don't they often also cut the movie?
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Post by xianjiro » May 9th, 2017, 8:54 pm

:yas:
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Post by Ebbywebby » July 19th, 2017, 10:31 pm

OK, here's one I can't figure out.

https://www.icheckmovies.com/profiles/barnard33/

Hasn't used the site in ages, but has checked 11,650 films. With about 8,200 of those films, he is the ONLY ONE to check them. And almost 10,000 of his films are checked by five users or less.

His official rank is #12320 but, by total checks, he ranks way up at #49.

Scanning a few pages of his check history, I can't see a pattern.

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Post by OldAle1 » July 19th, 2017, 11:22 pm

Count me as someone who falls into the "seeing it on MST3K doesn't count as seeing it, so don't check it" camp. They're cut, they're dubbed over - you didn't see the movie. UNLESS there's a case where a film is only available in the MST3K cut and I doubt such is the case now.

As far as subtitles go, I think it's a case-by-case scenario; there's a big difference between watching an Eric Rohmer film unsubbed (presuming zero knowledge of French) and watching Under the Skin under the same conditions. I don't know that I've ever watched a feature-length film unsubbed in any language other than English or German (which I'm not fluent in but can usually get by in, and I used to be much more fluent) but I've watched a few shorts with significant dialogue in Spanish and French (both of which I know just slightly) and felt like the experiences were meaningful. So I guess it really depends; add to this the fact that subs are often quite inadequate, and if you really don't know the language at all you may not even know that you're missing anything important. The dialogue in Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach which I watched today runs by too quickly to be adequately subbed; should those not perfectly fluent in German then not check it?
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Post by WalterNeff » July 27th, 2017, 10:30 pm

So here's a useful way I just used iCM for. I just got a jury duty summons, and I was pretty sure I just had jury duty. I remember not being able to access Netflix from the jury pool room, as it was probably blocked, but since I was a Filmstruck beta tester, I tried that, and was able to get through. I remember I watched the Tanner '88 series, so I checked when I checked it on iCM, and lo and behold it was just last August. Armed with this recent service date I hope I can avoid another round of jury duty, but if not, at least I will have Criterion to keep me company.

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Post by xianjiro » July 27th, 2017, 11:40 pm

Good luck! Last time I was called (and seated) I had a difficult time concealing my glee as I was relieved of duty during voir dire. It looked like a particularly icky case - complete with he said, she said and plenty of domestic abuse. Courtrooms are rarely happy places, but there was an absolute pall over the attorneys' tables and I just didn't want to be part of that mess.

I might actually enjoy a nice business dispute though. ;)

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Post by joachimt » August 2nd, 2017, 8:39 pm

Ebbywebby on Jul 19 2017, 04:31:16 PM wrote:OK, here's one I can't figure out.

https://www.icheckmovies.com/profiles/barnard33/

Hasn't used the site in ages, but has checked 11,650 films. With about 8,200 of those films, he is the ONLY ONE to check them. And almost 10,000 of his films are checked by five users or less.

His official rank is #12320 but, by total checks, he ranks way up at #49.

Scanning a few pages of his check history, I can't see a pattern.
He's not on iCM anymore now.
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Post by Ebbywebby » August 7th, 2017, 7:40 pm

joachimt on Aug 2 2017, 02:39:09 PM wrote:
Ebbywebby on Jul 19 2017, 04:31:16 PM wrote:OK, here's one I can't figure out.

https://www.icheckmovies.com/profiles/barnard33/

Hasn't used the site in ages, but has checked 11,650 films. With about 8,200 of those films, he is the ONLY ONE to check them. And almost 10,000 of his films are checked by five users or less.

His official rank is #12320 but, by total checks, he ranks way up at #49.

Scanning a few pages of his check history, I can't see a pattern.
He's not on iCM anymore now.
Yeah, I just noticed this myself. Did I scare him off?

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Post by joachimt » August 7th, 2017, 7:47 pm

Ebbywebby on Aug 7 2017, 01:40:31 PM wrote:
joachimt on Aug 2 2017, 02:39:09 PM wrote:
Ebbywebby on Jul 19 2017, 04:31:16 PM wrote:OK, here's one I can't figure out.

https://www.icheckmovies.com/profiles/barnard33/

Hasn't used the site in ages, but has checked 11,650 films. With about 8,200 of those films, he is the ONLY ONE to check them. And almost 10,000 of his films are checked by five users or less.

His official rank is #12320 but, by total checks, he ranks way up at #49.

Scanning a few pages of his check history, I can't see a pattern.
He's not on iCM anymore now.
Yeah, I just noticed this myself. Did I scare him off?
Your info proofed there is enough reasonable doubt about his checks and he hasn't been active for over a year. The mods and Marijn agreed in such cases the account will be removed.
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Post by joachimt » February 9th, 2018, 12:59 pm

I just added to the OP:
...people who uncheck and recheck a movie after rewatching it.

Thought it was a funny one. Not stupid funny, because it does make sense.
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Post by Minkin » February 9th, 2018, 1:49 pm

pffffttt :down:

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Post by weirdboy » February 9th, 2018, 1:58 pm

albajos on May 8 2017, 03:30:14 PM wrote:
xianjiro on May 8 2017, 03:02:58 PM wrote:
joachimt on May 8 2017, 05:47:17 AM wrote:Let me repeat this joke:

I wouldn't know. I always finish before the movie does and I don't check movies I have seen only a portion of. :folded:
you mean people watch porn titles to credits? :blink:
If you want a check, yes.

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If you all don't want to watch movies like that, why have you even added lists that contain these? I would think nobody would ask for a list called the "100 best porn movies", since porn do not have any qualities you expect from a movie.

Actual art is supposed to provoke, so movies as art are also supposed to provoke/make you think/challenge yourself intellectually. And thereby be controversial to some. Looking at Tim Dirks's list, he really has misunderstood the whole definition. Throwing out arbitrary reasons way outside the movies themselves. You remove lost movies from lists, why not also movies that noone considers to be movies.

Well, enough of my ranting, but since watching a porn film will never make my life better (which is what I expect movies on lists on a site like is supposed to do) I will never watch any 20 of those regular adult titles with checks. They would only get 1/10 from me anyway, and I have better unofficial films to spend those hours on,
Deep Throat is worth watching if only for the soundtrack. But it is also a comedy--not a great comedy, but better than some I have seen on official lists.

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Post by Armoreska » February 9th, 2018, 3:04 pm

joachimt on Feb 9 2018, 05:59:22 AM wrote:I just added to the OP:
...people who uncheck and recheck a movie after rewatching it.

Thought it was a funny one. Not stupid funny, because it does make sense.
I did that a few times for more comprehensive rewatches
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Post by maxwelldeux » March 9th, 2018, 3:09 am

Only tangentially related, but I realized I might have an ICM problem the other day when it dawned on me that I had ICM open on three monitors on two computers, looking up different different parts of ICM, and had to minimize windows with the ICM forum in there and my Excel spreadsheet tracking my ICM stats. :whistling:

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Post by 3eyes » March 9th, 2018, 4:05 am

Well, I recently watched Mark Felt...

You know, this thread was kind of a tease, I mean using ICM to check or not check movies isn't really all that bizarre.
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Post by Nathan Treadway » March 9th, 2018, 4:19 am

maxwelldeux on Mar 8 2018, 08:09:57 PM wrote:Only tangentially related, but I realized I might have an ICM problem the other day when it dawned on me that I had ICM open on three monitors on two computers, looking up different different parts of ICM, and had to minimize windows with the ICM forum in there and my Excel spreadsheet tracking my ICM stats. :whistling:

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Post by xianjiro » March 9th, 2018, 8:47 am

maxwelldeux on Mar 8 2018, 08:09:57 PM wrote:Only tangentially related, but I realized I might have an ICM problem the other day when it dawned on me that I had ICM open on three monitors on two computers, looking up different different parts of ICM, and had to minimize windows with the ICM forum in there and my Excel spreadsheet tracking my ICM stats. :whistling:

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Post by monk-time » March 9th, 2018, 8:54 am

Nathan Treadway on Mar 8 2018, 09:19:06 PM wrote:The first step toward recovery is admitting you have a problem. The question is, is it a problem? If not, at what point does it become one?
I don't know, feels more like it's the admitting that is the problem. And I have just the solution for this: "Lobotomy, it's gotta be."
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Post by 3eyes » March 9th, 2018, 5:01 pm

I certainly use ICM (and this forum) to avoid coming to grips with RL - like shoveling out the house so my heirs won't have to. Maybe in May (when the challenges don't interest me) I'll take a month off and try to do more useful/wholesome/soul-enriching pursuits.

Besides being used for games like change the letter, combine two titles, etc., etc., there are numerous artistic possibilities for using lists:

Literary: Incorporate titles into a story or poem (for multi-language lists, think Ezra Pound)
Musical: croon lists to a baby, use as rock or rap lyrics, etc.etc etc
Artistic: print off screenshots to use as collage, paper sculpture/mache, wallpaper, etc

Of course there are many mathematical and sociological etc uses already being made, some of which seem to me just as weird as the above, but then.
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Post by Ebbywebby » May 11th, 2018, 8:59 pm

https://www.icheckmovies.com/charts/pro ... ort=checks

What's the deal with "imToad"? 16000+ checks, but zero official? And if you click the profile, it won't load.

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Post by joachimt » May 11th, 2018, 9:09 pm

Ebbywebby on May 11 2018, 02:59:44 PM wrote:https://www.icheckmovies.com/charts/pro ... ort=checks

What's the deal with "imToad"? 16000+ checks, but zero official? And if you click the profile, it won't load.
New profile. All his checks are made today (I went to his favs and exported those), so I guess his toplists-checks will update later. Not sure why his profile won't show up.
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#198

Post by PeacefulAnarchy » May 11th, 2018, 9:21 pm

A whole lot of those checks are TV episodes, also some video games.

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Post by Tim2460 » October 1st, 2018, 8:04 pm

Hello there : For my part i use ICM to check the film i own... Most of the time (like 90% maybe) i have also seen them ... But anyway very useful Site ! Export t oCSV is a killer feature...
Took an paying account just for that :)

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Post by kathulu » October 1st, 2018, 10:27 pm

On dubbed movies:

I would generally agree it's really annoying, however it depends on how much work went into the dubbing and if there are actually proper actors doing the dubbing and not just a monotonous voice-over doing all the voices. I'm talking of course from a Russian point of view here (I spent the first 8 years of my life in Russia).

Generally I used to hate all dubbed movies because it was so incredibly lazy. There would just be this one guy droning over an audible (!!!!) English track. However, the dubbed version of "Some Like It Hot" deserves so much praise and all the awards. I grew up on this movie and watched it over and over and over again with my sister. They used real actors who did actual comedic voices, the actors for Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis did wonderful lady voices and gentlemen voices and were incredibly funny, and the Marilyn Monroe actor was just a joy to listen to (although they actually kept the English original songs - which we also loved dearly). In other words, I would argue that I definitely had seen "Some Like It Hot" a shitload of times even before I saw the original American version =P

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