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Post by OldAle1 » May 15th, 2020, 9:23 pm

My change is almost exactly the reverse of Onderhond's - from 543 to 493. Most of that I guess is in the older 2nd-tier Universal and Hammer films and other pre-1960 or so stuff, much of which I watched over the last two Octobers. Don't regret it though, I enjoy that stuff even if almost none of it is "great" and a lot of it isn't even good. Helps that a great many of them are really short.

Highest unchecked:

Ôdishon 62 (43)
Return of the Living Dead 68 (66)
The Ring 72 (82)
Saw 79 (85)
The Others 84 (89)

May watch all of those and the others I have left to see in the top 100 before too long.

Easy enough to get back the bronze obviously; that's as far as I see myself consciously working on it, though I'm sure I'll see several in October, and whenever I finally start my big Japanese genre project I'll get to some of those - also interested in seeing more Italian and French horror generally. But I can't see making an effort to get to Silver let alone higher levels, and I don't see myself ever watching any of the Human Centipede films :yucky:

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Post by 1SO » May 16th, 2020, 12:28 am

16 to Watch. 2 Unchecked Titles I've already seen.

Highest Unchecked: 660 Demons 2 (1986)

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Post by mightysparks » May 16th, 2020, 12:42 am

I'm at 1000/1000 obviously :whistling: Ju-on 2 nearly made the cut, but was kicked off at the last second so I kept my plat.

Forgot to do this last night, so here's 1001-2000 updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/. There are only three 1-vote films left in the top 2000, but I'm thinking of changing things next year so that all 1-vote films are ranked below everything else, I usually don't like to fiddle with the results too much but some of them are frustratingly high.

Seen 742/1000 from the 1001+ list.
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Post by mightysparks » May 16th, 2020, 12:44 am

Oh, and I also questioned Requiem for a Dream's inclusion, but it appears on a few legit lists so I shrugged it off:

Chicago Film Critics Association's 100 Scariest Movies of All Time (2006) (#92)
Consequence of Sound's 100 Scariest Movies of All Time (2019) (#26)
Guillem Morales' Top 10 (2012) (unranked)
Simon Rumley's Top 10 (2015) (unranked)
Ton Petit Look's Jeremie Romain's Un palmarès des meilleurs films d'horreur DE TOUS LES TEMPS! (2014) (unranked)
Vogue's 20 Scary Movies to Watch (or Avoid) this Halloween (2014) (unranked)
Digital Spy's Rosie Fletcher's The 13 most harrowing movies of all time (2016) (#7)
Flickering Myth's EJ Moreno's The Most Shocking Movies of All Time (2019) (#14)
HorreurWeb Forum's Top 20 - Films troublants (2015) (#16)
Horrornews.net's Extreme Cinema List of Disturbing Films Compendium (2017) (unranked)
Zombies Don't Run's Chuck Conry's Top 10 Most Disturbing Movies of All-Time (2009) (#8)
Saturn Award for Best Horror Thriller Film (All nominees) (2018) (unranked)
Vice's Noel Ransome's The 50 Scariest Moments in Horror (2018) (unranked)
Horror.com's The Official HDC Top 200 Of The 2000s - Honorable Mentions (2011) (unranked)
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Post by frbrown » May 16th, 2020, 1:38 am

mightysparks wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 12:42 am
Forgot to do this last night, so here's 1001-2000 updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/.
The rankings seem strange. A lot of films fell from the top 1000 all the way to the bottom half of this list.

Are all the films that met the "3 ranked lists minimum" ranked first, and after that all the other films?

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Post by mightysparks » May 16th, 2020, 1:45 am

frbrown wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 1:38 am
mightysparks wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 12:42 am
Forgot to do this last night, so here's 1001-2000 updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/.
The rankings seem strange. A lot of films fell from the top 1000 all the way to the bottom half of this list.

Are all the films that met the "3 ranked lists minimum" ranked first, and after that all the other films?
They also have to appear on at least 6 lists to be considered for the main list, and must appear in an 'all time' list, so this narrows it to about 1700 films. Everything is ranked after that using the borda count. I haven't really found the magical formula for this yet.

I rearranged and tweaked weightings of a few lists, changed the half-life slightly, there were a couple of duplicates, some lists with typos in regards to weightings, a couple were incorrectly listed as ranked when they were unranked etc, so there were a few things that caused some changes.
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Post by flavo5000 » May 16th, 2020, 2:57 am

mightysparks wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 12:42 am
I'm at 1000/1000 obviously :whistling: Ju-on 2 nearly made the cut, but was kicked off at the last second so I kept my plat.

Forgot to do this last night, so here's 1001-2000 updated: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/. There are only three 1-vote films left in the top 2000, but I'm thinking of changing things next year so that all 1-vote films are ranked below everything else, I usually don't like to fiddle with the results too much but some of them are frustratingly high.

Seen 742/1000 from the 1001+ list.
Sweet! I actually look forward to the 1000+ update more than the TSZDT list since I have a lot more unwatched on that one (705/1000). Looks like some interesting new ones on the list to look forward to.

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Post by sol » May 16th, 2020, 3:50 am

Onderhond wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 8:58 pm
Went from 495 to 537 checks. That's quite a jump.
OldAle1 wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 9:23 pm
My change is almost exactly the reverse of Onderhond's - from 543 to 493.
And then there's my change. I went from 707 checks to... 707 checks. :shrug: I didn't even realise that the iCM list had been updated yet until I checked in here. Big question now is whether my ranking on the list will rise or fall when the rankings update.
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Post by Cocoa » May 16th, 2020, 5:56 am

Went from 931 to 937. Although there are a bunch of films on the list that I've seen as a child that I've never checked but I don't check those films unless I've rated them and I don't like rating films based on memory from 10~25 years ago.

Some films I hate fell off the list. Some films I love fell off the list. Some films I hate are now on the list. Some films I love are now on the list. Overall, I have no strong opinions on the update. A bunch of the new films were on previous versions so the update didn't provide a major shock factor.

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Post by Onderhond » May 16th, 2020, 7:37 am

mightysparks wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 12:42 am
I'm at 1000/1000 obviously :whistling: Ju-on 2 nearly made the cut, but was kicked off at the last second so I kept my plat.
How can you have seen a full 1000 on this list, but not one of the early Ju-on films :lol:

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Post by mightysparks » May 16th, 2020, 8:12 am

I didn’t like the first one :shrug:
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Post by Onderhond » May 16th, 2020, 8:15 am

I'm sure that didn't stop you to get platinum!

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Post by mightysparks » May 16th, 2020, 8:20 am

Well, no, but I need some kind of incentive to watch something. If the film doesn’t interest me, then it being on a list I want to complete will do just fine.

Edit: Also, Asia is the region I'm least interested in film and horror-wise, so I don't really go out of my way to watch them.
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Post by Onderhond » May 16th, 2020, 8:42 am

mightysparks wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 8:20 am
Well, no, but I need some kind of incentive to watch something. If the film doesn’t interest me, then it being on a list I want to complete will do just fine.

Edit: Also, Asia is the region I'm least interested in film and horror-wise, so I don't really go out of my way to watch them.
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Post by kingink » May 16th, 2020, 9:48 am

22 unwatched... I wanted more since I'm on a horror craze right now, but I guess I could just hit the 1000-2000 list next. Thank you mighty for all your work!!!

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Post by 72aicm » May 16th, 2020, 9:54 am

From 413/1000 to 415. Thanks for all the work you put into this Mighty.

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Post by OldAle1 » May 16th, 2020, 1:14 pm

72aicm wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 9:54 am
From 413/1000 to 415. Thanks for all the work you put into this Mighty.
Yeah, I forgot to say thanks. It's still a bit odd to me how much more interested I've become in horror, and this list, just since joining this forum a little over 3 years ago. And I was one of the naysayers as regards this list at first; I think that apart from the quality and the hard work that Mighty and Chris and others have put into making it over the years, it's that I really do like big, comprehensive type genre lists, and I've belatedly come to understand just how huge a genre horror has been and is worldwide. I really hope we can generate similar projects for musicals, westerns and science fiction in particular someday. I know people have started on the latter two but not continued for various reasons, and I can understand that - I wish I had the skills and knowledge of stats and web stuff in general to pick up where they've left off but maybe we can all at some point pitch in to make some of these other lists a reality, somehow.

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Post by weirdboy » May 16th, 2020, 1:54 pm

Looks like I lost three checks in the latest update.

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Post by Onderhond » May 16th, 2020, 2:10 pm

Just noticed Cerda's Aftermath also made it. Now there's a very nice surprise!

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Post by Onderhond » May 16th, 2020, 6:25 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 1:14 pm
it's that I really do like big, comprehensive type genre lists ... I really hope we can generate similar projects for musicals, westerns and science fiction in particular someday.
Hear hear (although my votes would go to a separate scifi and fantasy list). These bigger lists leave room for true genre films that fully deliver on their genre elements. Not the kind of films that usually rise to the top when people have to draw up favorites lists, but are perfect filler and quench the thirst for a particular genre.

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Post by OldAle1 » May 16th, 2020, 6:34 pm

Onderhond wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 6:25 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 1:14 pm
it's that I really do like big, comprehensive type genre lists ... I really hope we can generate similar projects for musicals, westerns and science fiction in particular someday.
Hear hear (although my votes would go to a separate scifi and fantasy list). These bigger lists leave room for true genre films that fully deliver on their genre elements. Not the kind of films that usually rise to the top when people have to draw up favorites lists, but are perfect filler and quench the thirst for a particular genre.
Yes, you're still going to have many expected films topping the big lists - The Searchers will be somewhere in the top 10 of any westerns mega-list, The Exorcist will be up there on a horror list, etc, but once you get below 100, 200, especially 500, you get the films that the hard-core fans are looking for, or the weird things that may or may not fit but that a certain group really likes.

Fantasy is probably the toughest genre to define for me - I didn't participate in the fantasy poll, don't know if I would in the future, it's just too vague in my understanding of it, and I find nearly every fantasy list unsatisfying, even when I like a large portion of the films it contains. But maybe that's just me. In any case I wouldn't say no to a bigger fantasy list either, even if it's not close to a first preference. Combining it with science fiction (is that what you mean? unclear to me) might work better, I dunno.

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Post by Onderhond » May 16th, 2020, 6:42 pm

No, I'd rather see separate lists, because Gandalf & spaceships don't belong in the same list for me. I know there's a LOT of grey area there, but the futuristic appeal of sci-fi is very different from the anything-can-go creativity of fantasy. And as much grey area as there is, there are also plenty of films that are clearly one or another. And I think films that actively combine both genres (like Star Wars etc) can appear in both. Just like a good horror/comedy film could be featured in both a horror and comedy genre list.

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Post by Tim2460 » May 16th, 2020, 8:40 pm

Ouch lost a lot of ranking with the update.
I had the top 75 club screenshot hopefully ;}
Was 73 yesterday.... 84 today!
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Post by frbrown » May 16th, 2020, 10:08 pm

mightysparks wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 11:08 am
Anyway, the 2020 update is ready! See here: http://theyshootzombies.com/ghf1000/

The full list on the website is not updated

http://theyshootzombies.com/ghf1000/full-list/

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Post by mightysparks » May 17th, 2020, 12:28 am

frbrown wrote:
May 16th, 2020, 10:08 pm
mightysparks wrote:
May 15th, 2020, 11:08 am
Anyway, the 2020 update is ready! See here: http://theyshootzombies.com/ghf1000/

The full list on the website is not updated

http://theyshootzombies.com/ghf1000/full-list/
Forgot about that, I was trying to decide whether to scrap the page since I have the Google sheet now.. still haven't decided
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Post by mightysparks » May 17th, 2020, 2:40 am

Hidden Horrors has now been updated: http://theyshootzombies.com/ghf1000/hidden-horrors/

iCM: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/
IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls098757377/

57/150. Guess I need to start working on this one next...
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Post by flavo5000 » May 17th, 2020, 6:57 pm

mightysparks wrote:
May 17th, 2020, 2:40 am
Hidden Horrors has now been updated: http://theyshootzombies.com/ghf1000/hidden-horrors/

iCM: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tszd ... htysparks/
IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls098757377/

57/150. Guess I need to start working on this one next...
Oh snap! There's at least one horror list I'm ahead of you on :P

I'm at 73/100 on that one.

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Post by Fergenaprido » May 17th, 2020, 8:38 pm

Was checking out your all films spreadsheet Mighty, so that I could update my Canadian films on official lists list, and came across some very weird choices for "horror".

Granted, they're way down at the very bottom, but I don't get how these three films are horror films:

6915 Careful
7687 The Grey Fox
7735 Porky's

Careful, I could maybe see, but the other two seem so clearly "western heist" and "teen sex comedy" to me.

I lost two checks (109->107), and fell even further in the rankings to above 13000. I'll never hit Top 10,000 at this rate :D

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Post by mightysparks » May 17th, 2020, 11:51 pm

Yea I don’t understand some choices. Often they’re films that have been mentioned in a ‘history of horror’ type of book but you get some that people are ‘legitimately‘ voting for, like 27 Dresses and The Sound of Music. I just figure they’ll stay at the bottom so I leave them alone.
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Post by Ebbywebby » May 18th, 2020, 8:01 pm

I think I went from 459 to 450. Gained 32 checks and lost 41. There are eight or nine now-unofficial films that I never would have watched if they weren't checks, so that's a bit frustrating. But I'll be kinda embarrassed if I ever reach Bronze on this list, so losing checks is OK.

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