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Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 11:49 am
by Armoreska
Atheist...that's the kind of music I had to suffer through for the themes to find something to hang onto. Sadly I can't even clearly hear the lyrics. Maybe they're really good.
Onslaught's Sounds of Violence and Motorhead work much better, even The Ocean and The Faceless had nice tracks.
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Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 11:55 am
by Armoreska
For Sevenfold, I also have Waking The Fallen written in in the wishlist.

Bad Company - Bad Co, Straight Shooter
BOC - everything, one of the best bands

even their 1st song on 1st album is already awesome!

"BOC is the highlight of and best reason for being on Earth" sounds about right

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 11:57 am
by Pretentious Hipster
Who cares about hearing the lyrics. You can read them. It's all about the stylized vocals and how they play with the music.

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 11:58 am
by joachimt
Nice that you post Pelagial by The Ocean, Armoreska. I love that album!

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 12:01 pm
by Armoreska
Pretentious Hipster wrote: May 4th, 2021, 11:57 am Who cares about hearing the lyrics. You can read them. It's all about the stylized vocals and how they play with the music.
I do.
btw isn't Elements the better Atheist album? I quite like that one! (OK, only maybe a FEW songs on that one)

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 12:04 pm
by Armoreska
joachimt wrote: May 4th, 2021, 11:58 am Nice that you post Pelagial by The Ocean, Armoreska. I love that album!
Cool. There are probably a few songs that are bearable for me. I'm still trying to suffer through the rest of their catalogue when my mood is not too low haha.

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 5:41 pm
by joachimt
Bathory: "Bathory" and "Under the Sign of the Black Mark"

This is not my thing. I don't get pleasure out of listening to such a low sound quality. All the instruments blend together. I often read people saying that's how metal was supposed to sound, but I think that's just stupid.

The first album sounds like punkmetal. It's one riff repeated over and over with the drums banging without hardly any variation and the singer in the background just screaming. I know I sound very lame saying this, because this is how most people think about ALL metal, but seriously, after hearing lots of different metal in my life, this is still what I get from stuff like this.

The second album was more interesting songwise. It sounded like they weren't trying anymore just to sound fast and extreme, but also tried to make something out of it. Still not liking the sound, but I can understand people liking this.

I also had "Blood Fire Death" lined up, but I don't think I need to listen anymore. Or is it worth a try for me?




Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 5:55 pm
by Pretentious Hipster
If low quality deters you then remove all black metal from my suggestions list. It's how it was of the time, and still is to this day, as it helps set an atmosphere.

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 6:13 pm
by Armoreska
Why'd you listen to the first? It's not one of the 4-5 that had been recommended to me
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Asa Bay

A Fine Day to Die

Shores in Flames

Home of Once Brave

The Woodwoman

Twilight of the Gods (listen to the end) - im gonna go listen to this album since I skipped it sadly

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 6:42 pm
by joachimt
Pretentious Hipster wrote: May 4th, 2021, 5:55 pm If low quality deters you then remove all black metal from my suggestions list. It's how it was of the time, and still is to this day, as it helps set an atmosphere.
Maybe. But I like to stay open minded. Maybe I'll hear something I'll like anyway.
Armoreska wrote: May 4th, 2021, 6:13 pm Why'd you listen to the first? It's not one of the 4-5 that had been recommended to me
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Asa Bay

A Fine Day to Die

Shores in Flames

Home of Once Brave

The Woodwoman

Twilight of the Gods (listen to the end) - im gonna go listen to this album since I skipped it sadly
These three albums were mentioned on some "essential" or "best" lists.

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 6:46 pm
by joachimt
Btw, recommendations from Arthur are not a good idea for me almost always, because you listen to music in a very different way than I do. For example, if I think of good black metal I think of "Dusk and Her Embrace" for example. I assume that's something you don't like, because it lacks the atmosphere you're looking for in black metal.

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 4th, 2021, 9:45 pm
by Knaldskalle
Pretentious Hipster wrote: May 4th, 2021, 5:55 pm If low quality deters you then remove all black metal from my suggestions list. It's how it was of the time, and still is to this day, as it helps set an atmosphere.
I was just about to post "no early black metal for you" after reading joachimt's comment about sound quality. I also don't like early black metal. I do like "Rotting Christ", though, they are very melodic and not at all what I usually associate with black metal, but that's what they're classified as ("Hellenic Black Metal" to be fair).
some Rotting Christ




Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 5th, 2021, 4:12 pm
by Kublai Khan
joachimt wrote: May 4th, 2021, 11:24 am Atheist - Unquestionable Presence

Now that's more like it!! You all know I love progmetal, so you know I prefer songs were lots of different things happen. I certainly enjoy some technical death metal like this. Still sounds very fresh, not like it's 30 years old.

I can't pick individual songs yet, it was too overwhelming for that after one listen.



They didn't make a lot of albums, btw. I think I'll listen to the rest later as well.
Hey. Local band. I knew and hung out with Kelly Schaefer a few times, though it was post-Atheist.

He was in Neurotica later on. Which had some good tracks, but I might be biased.

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 8th, 2021, 6:51 am
by joachimt
Blasphemy - Fallen Angel of Doom

I'm two songs into this one. I think you can all guess what my opinion is so far...... I'll listen to the rest as well.

Re: Joachim discovers "classic" and "important" hardrock and metal albums

Posted: May 8th, 2021, 7:16 am
by joachimt
Okay, I finished it. Luckily not very long. It was slightly better than Bathory, based on sound quality, but still the drums and guitars were just one big mess. Didn't hear any interesting songs, so I didn't get any pleasure out of this.