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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 12th, 2019, 5:29 pm

I noticed that pop gets a bad rep in some circles as they assume that it's just top 40 music. I find pop music to be one of the most imaginative and eclectic genres out there. It just might be my favourite genre. I'm especially into progressive pop now. Are you guys into any pop acts? Especially any hidden gems?

First I present the king of not only progressive pop, but pop in general.







I'll post my 9/10s later as there's so many 10/10s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XAeg3B0To
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=586-G4TcUxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjxqYdGWjgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzMo-EpWcPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_IyQYpCvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_f3mV3OBD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TVVQvk5KbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsfNYATsEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028hdxGYdYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7vX3s9Kd3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuxmJE32dNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Saf9U7hUEo this album unintentionally became the musical equivalent of a nightmare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGHpBOt5sE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nknj3uH5UO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtQFDKAonIw

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Post by PirateJenny » April 12th, 2019, 6:26 pm

I listen to BBC Radio 2 as my normal station in the car. If it's a good tune then I'm into it even if someome will call it. It reminds me of a scene from Vox Lux where she thinks the boy won't like her because she sings pop and not rock. I like all kinds of cheesy stuff like Cindy Lauper or The Bangles, Nelly Furtado, or Edie Brickel & The NEw Bohemians.

Synth pop is probably my favourite of the pop genres though. I remember liking Junior Boys quite a bit.


Could you call Art of Noise pop?


Good thread to lounge in! Asian pop is a blind spot for me.

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Post by bal3x » April 12th, 2019, 11:41 pm

Excellent stuff here, - some of it does not sound like pop music to me though :) These days genres are so blurred that it's hard to categorize anything.

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Post by mightysparks » April 13th, 2019, 1:05 am

bal3x wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 11:41 pm
Excellent stuff here, - some of it does not sound like pop music to me though :) These days genres are so blurred that it's hard to categorize anything.
Yea, when I think of pop I think of stuff like Lesley Gore, modern 'pop' is just hip-hop and the stuff here is.. a mix of things. Music genres confuse me.
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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 7:18 am

ill listen to those later, havent heard of the embed ones except paprika


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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 7:24 am

not going by the ratings, this is pretty good for what it is imo


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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 7:30 am

Sunshine pop from 60s


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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 7:31 am

Haunting psychedelic pop

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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 7:33 am

double feature of no fun


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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 7:34 am

Sophisti pop

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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 7:52 am

Hypnagogic pop



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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 13th, 2019, 12:59 pm

nimimerkillinen wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 7:18 am
ill listen to those later, havent heard of the embed ones except paprika
The first 2 tracks are my all time 2nd favourite album and the 2nd link is the first track. It took me a while to adjust to it because of how dense and bombastic it is. However, when the chorus kicked in I immediately thought "who is this person and how come I've never heard of them before"

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 13th, 2019, 1:00 pm

bal3x wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 11:41 pm
Excellent stuff here, - some of it does not sound like pop music to me though :) These days genres are so blurred that it's hard to categorize anything.
Out of curiousity which ones? I can kind of see My Bloody Valentine not being pop, but RYM tagged them as noise and dream pop. The rest seems like pop to me, just not as accessible.

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Post by Armoreska » April 13th, 2019, 1:04 pm

mightysparks wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 1:05 am
bal3x wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 11:41 pm
Excellent stuff here, - some of it does not sound like pop music to me though :) These days genres are so blurred that it's hard to categorize anything.
Yea, when I think of pop I think of stuff like Lesley Gore, modern 'pop' is just hip-hop and the stuff here is.. a mix of things. Music genres confuse me.
This. Most modern popular music is just vocal electronic music with no real label you can put on it or a terrible hip-hop/R&B mix.
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Post by Armoreska » April 13th, 2019, 1:20 pm

OP:
Niwashi King is new age/synthpop.
Town-O Phase-5 is new wave/synthpop.
track 3 is techno/synthpop
Parade is new age/synthpop.
On line Malaysia is new age/synthpop.

I wouldnt necessarily call synthpop pop music. Although it does say that in the name.
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 13th, 2019, 1:48 pm

I'd call Susumu's music Progressive Pop as they have more complex song structures, but they have elements of a few genres.

You could argue that pop music should be defined strictly as popular music. If that's the case, then wasn't synth pop huge in the late 70s and early 80s? All Susumu has done was taking that popular genre and evolving it.

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Post by mightysparks » April 13th, 2019, 3:07 pm

nimimerkillinen wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 7:52 am
Hypnagogic pop


Love Ariel Pink, and John Maus is pretty cool. Second vid wouldn’t play for me :/ My favourite Pink is ‘Black Ballerina’ and I love ‘Lipstick’ a lot too.
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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 13th, 2019, 3:20 pm

mightysparks wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 3:07 pm
nimimerkillinen wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 7:52 am
Love Ariel Pink, and John Maus is pretty cool. Second vid wouldn’t play for me :/ My favourite Pink is ‘Black Ballerina’ and I love ‘Lipstick’ a lot too.
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Post by bal3x » April 13th, 2019, 8:39 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 1:00 pm
bal3x wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 11:41 pm
Excellent stuff here, - some of it does not sound like pop music to me though :) These days genres are so blurred that it's hard to categorize anything.
Out of curiousity which ones? I can kind of see My Bloody Valentine not being pop, but RYM tagged them as noise and dream pop. The rest seems like pop to me, just not as accessible.
Well, I wouldn't call Kate Bush pop, she's actually Crossover Prog, and yeah My Bloody Valentine isn't quite pop in my book, Low is also there even though probably can be considered dream pop. And how is Umm Kulthum pop?

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 13th, 2019, 8:47 pm

bal3x wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 8:39 pm
Well, I wouldn't call Kate Bush pop, she's actually Crossover Prog, and yeah My Bloody Valentine isn't quite pop in my book, Low is also there even though probably can be considered dream pop. And how is Umm Kulthum pop?
I'd call her Progressive Pop like with Susumu. I guess I would agree with MBV as mentioned before. Low did quite a change from their earlier work, and I find it to be pop. Noisy and inaccessible industrial pop, but still pop. Apparently Umm Kulthum is how traditional pop sounded like in Arabic countries.

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Post by bal3x » April 13th, 2019, 9:06 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 1:48 pm
I'd call Susumu's music Progressive Pop as they have more complex song structures, but they have elements of a few genres.

You could argue that pop music should be defined strictly as popular music. If that's the case, then wasn't synth pop huge in the late 70s and early 80s? All Susumu has done was taking that popular genre and evolving it.
Well, yeah, it's tricky - by definition pop is popular, that's where the name comes from, but, honestly what is "pop" these days? That word basically means nothing... just compare it with the initial definitions:
often characterized as "instant singles-based music aimed at teenagers" in contrast to rock music as "album-based music for adults"

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Post by bal3x » April 13th, 2019, 9:10 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 8:47 pm
bal3x wrote:
April 13th, 2019, 8:39 pm
Well, I wouldn't call Kate Bush pop, she's actually Crossover Prog, and yeah My Bloody Valentine isn't quite pop in my book, Low is also there even though probably can be considered dream pop. And how is Umm Kulthum pop?
I'd call her Progressive Pop like with Susumu. I guess I would agree with MBV as mentioned before. Low did quite a change from their earlier work, and I find it to be pop. Noisy and inaccessible industrial pop, but still pop. Apparently Umm Kulthum is how traditional pop sounded like in Arabic countries.
Fair enough, but I guess it's all rather subjective, and probably also depends on your age and perceptions, there's also such thing as pop-rock and prog pop :) tbh, I try not label things at all these days, it started to become difficult around the time Nirvana ended their career... it's almost like politics - left is right, right is left, who is progressive, LOL.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 13th, 2019, 9:11 pm

I understand, I do like labelling stuff though for organisational purposes and to help me describe stuff.

RYM has an interesting description on what is pop music:

Because "pop" can simply mean what is or was popular in many different times and places, defining it more narrowly as an actual musical genre is arguably ill-advised. Nonetheless, most pop music does share many distinct traits. Pop music is generally designed to be catchy, with a beat or a melody or a lyric or a hook (or all four) that are readily accessible, particularly to young people. It is also produced, often by large and expert teams, in way that removes any rough edges.

Pop music, more so than Rock music, also tends to emphasize the vocalist as the lead performer. As such, pop songs tend to be somewhat short with only brief instrumental breaks. A basic intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus structure, or some mild variation on that structure, is very common in pop music and has remained common over the decades.

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Post by bal3x » April 13th, 2019, 9:17 pm

If RYM says it's "ill-advised" we should probably listen :D But yeah, good description that, pretty much sums it up.

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Post by PirateJenny » April 13th, 2019, 9:18 pm

Pop music?

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 13th, 2019, 9:20 pm

The #1 album of 2019 so far in RYM is also some pretty fantastic pop music


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Post by bal3x » April 13th, 2019, 9:39 pm

That Ariel Pink intro is quite phenomenal.

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Post by bal3x » April 13th, 2019, 10:53 pm

Since I'm more interested in prog, there's quite a few prog artists who have been working in the more popsy direction as compared to the heavier stuff, - stuff like 10CC, Asia. Kevin Ayers, Caravan, City Boy, ELO, Brian Eno, Peter Gabriel, Genesis (later period obviously), Kansas, Alan Parsons, Kraftwerk, Queen, Roxy Music, Supertramp to name a few - all of these contain quite a bit of pop elements. There's also quite a lot of rock bands that have pop elements, e.g. brit-pop, alternative pop, indie pop, chamber pop etc. - stuff like Radiohead, Stone Roses etc., but I tend to consider those more as rock bands. Also not sure how to handle synthpop since that one like Armo said rather stands out like a separate genre.

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Post by PirateJenny » April 14th, 2019, 9:02 pm

Great selection bal3x! Especially the first one. A lot of them are new wave, so close to synthpop by my reckoning.

As you posted Kate Bush do you like Enya?


and for modern pop there's always Neptunes!

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Post by bal3x » April 15th, 2019, 2:16 pm

PirateJenny wrote:
April 14th, 2019, 9:02 pm
Great selection bal3x! Especially the first one. A lot of them are new wave, so close to synthpop by my reckoning.

As you posted Kate Bush do you like Enya?

and for modern pop there's always Neptunes!
Yeah, that first one I discovered watching Cría cuervos - never heard of it before, but it's very catchy :)
And Enya is excellent, sure :)

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » April 22nd, 2019, 4:47 pm

:satstunned: Although it's so avant-garde (especially the 2nd link) that I dunno if I'd call it pop.




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Post by nimimerkillinen » April 22nd, 2019, 5:03 pm

is it just me or do loading the page take like half minute because of so many posts, dunno how you fellows feel about it but keeping one embed/post would help with the load, would personally prefer more pages vs. the long load

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