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HVM on May 18 2016, 04:16:37 PM wrote:
monty on May 18 2016, 04:00:48 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on May 16 2016, 07:09:56 AM wrote:I think Australia's participation is just expected sequence in globalization process.
Another reason being Australia's big and vibrant gay community, who like gays everywhere embrace this the epitome of kitchy glam shows.
That's racist. I'm in it for the politics. :folded:
No worries - lots of gay politics in Eurovision.
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Anyone remember THIS: :lol:
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monty on May 18 2016, 04:26:40 PM wrote:
HVM on May 18 2016, 04:16:37 PM wrote:
monty on May 18 2016, 04:00:48 PM wrote:Another reason being Australia's big and vibrant gay community, who like gays everywhere embrace this the epitome of kitchy glam shows.
That's racist. I'm in it for the politics. :folded:
No worries - lots of gay politics in Eurovision.
cbf, the Guardian spin was the highlight this year.
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Eurovision used to have at least some quality stuff like ABBA, decent French songs etc. a few decades ago, but has gone downhill especially since the 90s, these days it's indeed 95% absolute garbage. Not even talking about kitsch and politics..
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bal3x on May 18 2016, 06:09:11 PM wrote:Eurovision used to have at least some quality stuff like ABBA, decent French songs etc. a few decades ago, but has gone downhill especially since the 90s, these days it's indeed 95% absolute garbage. Not even talking about kitsch and politics..
Still, there were shameful moments before, too. Imagine yourself dancing across the room to the 1981 winner just when your friends break in. tehe To me, that would be equal to catching you while watching porn with your pants down.
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Mario Gaborović on May 18 2016, 06:38:01 PM wrote:
bal3x on May 18 2016, 06:09:11 PM wrote:Eurovision used to have at least some quality stuff like ABBA, decent French songs etc. a few decades ago, but has gone downhill especially since the 90s, these days it's indeed 95% absolute garbage. Not even talking about kitsch and politics..
Still, there were shameful moments before, too. Imagine yourself dancing across the room to the 1981 winner just when your friends break in. tehe To me, that would be equal to catching you while watching porn with your pants down.
Sure! :lol: But I think you'd agree that the overall quality has deteriorated dramatically over the years.
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I would disagree with that. This edition was quite meh, but imho last year was of high quality. There were 5 or 6 songs among the bunch that I could easily listen to without the ESC context and that is something I think I never experienced before.
But of course music tastes differ even more than film tastes. ;)
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This evolution is tragic. ABBA used English language and now everyone want to renew with it. The show is still popular in Germany, Sweden (80% of tv audience) or UK, and apparently it's the first time the US broadcast it. But that's McDonald music. I only watched it few times when I was young and the show was interesting to discover new cultures, European fellow, countries, and especially languages etc. And it was before the arrival of new countries. For what I've heard, all countries hire a US coach and most seem to sing in English. Where is the encounter of foreigners? European Union has one big issue, and a big fail: the share and the knowledge of each other. Sure we have language issues, but we actually never tried to learn from each others. And I don't think seeing vanishing culture behind an entirely English pop make-up will help us to create a genuine European culture. Europe has been made with the will to keep diversity and comprehension between cultures to avoid new wars, but UK won another war, the market war. Ironically, yes, throughout history, the commerce has had a tremendous importance to push cultures to share and understand the foreigner instead of making war... What should be a pleasure on the long term is become porn market. Everything is easy through the continent, and that's actually why we stay at home and keep prefer to ignore the foreigners. What's the point of such a show if there's no cultural goal behind it; the culture developed as a shield against anger, contempt and war. Yes, we want pop, and we will finally all pop, again. We're crazy.

What gave us the expansion of Europe, culturally speaking? Hungarian and Czech porn stars with English fake names.

Thanks ABBA! with your condescending queen! Fuck the crown, fuck UK, fuck English, they won the war of standardization... Welcome in European Community of Dizations.

It should have been Eurovisions.

(I'm still available for a cultural exchange with an Hungarian or a Czech pop star. I can coach myself and I can give you a nicer French name.)
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ts, ts, Lim. To make no difference between Europe and the EU is, how shall I put it, very English.

BTW, I too was underwhelmed by the number of non-English songs.
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HVM on May 19 2016, 07:14:29 AM wrote:ts, ts, Lim. To make no difference between Europe and the EU is, how shall I put it, very English.

BTW, I too was underwhelmed by the number of non-English songs.
yes they should all be forced to sing only in a language which is an official language in their own countries. That is the only way the UK or Ireland nowadays would have any chance as most people would understand the words. :lol:
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Cippenham on May 19 2016, 04:23:19 PM wrote:
HVM on May 19 2016, 07:14:29 AM wrote:ts, ts, Lim. To make no difference between Europe and the EU is, how shall I put it, very English.

BTW, I too was underwhelmed by the number of non-English songs.
yes they should all be forced to sing only in a language which is an official language in their own countries. That is the only way the UK or Ireland nowadays would have any chance as most people would understand the words. :lol:
Or just have it English title, while the rest of the lyrics are not. That works, too.
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Some good performances this year. I was hoping for Ukraine to win (even voted for them), but I can live with Italy taking it down. I liked Israel, France, Finland, Lithuania and Azerbaijan as well.
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Ukraine had a good song?
ah yes that one. yes i hate it but at least i think there's some eco message there probably.
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The only eurovision song ever made that is worth listening to (there might be some other good ones but I knew and loved this musician before he was on there)

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Ukraine, Lithuania or Iceland should've won. Or France was good Edith Piaf impression. The Italian winner was terrible, bad actors doing bad karaoke glam rock.

UK for some reason picked a guy with no charisma who can't sing, so thoroughly deserved the zero.
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There were like 1% of good songs at Eurovision historically, but the one I'll always remember and smiled at, is 1987 Israeli entry. :D

I even tried to learn it by heart in Hebrew but it was way too tough - had to be satisfied with English translation only.
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