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Post by mightysparks » April 7th, 2019, 2:18 am

Another super long album by an artist that I don't care about that I can't find: 20 Years of Jethro Tull (1988)

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Post by joachimt » April 7th, 2019, 5:58 am

mightysparks wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 2:18 am
Another super long album by an artist that I don't care about that I can't find: 20 Years of Jethro Tull (1988)

Halp please.
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Post by mightysparks » April 19th, 2019, 7:15 am

Managed to find the Jethro Tull album without paying anything (and it wasn't so bad after all).

Anyway, after listening to my 625th album, I have just finished the 1980s! Most overrated bands of the 1980s: Iron Maiden, Sonic Youth, Pixies. The Iron Maiden stuff wasn't terrible, but everything sounds the same and it's pretty much elevator music to me. Aside from the 1-2 decent songs the latter two have, geez they are boring as hell and pretty bad. I've been looking forward to the 90s since it's pretty unexplored territory for me, especially the hip-hop side of things.
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Post by PirateJenny » April 19th, 2019, 9:36 am

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
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Also lol they have Korn but not Godflesh...

“I remember being stunned when I heard that first Korn album,” Broadrick said in 2007, “because there’s so much Godflesh in that, but used in this commercial way. It was weird. Like, wow, I guess it had to happen at some point; somebody had to take these sorts of sounds and make them digestible.”

I'll just stop now.
I couldn't say I'm into metal but Godflesh are great. The industrial side of it is more my thing.
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Managed to find the Jethro Tull album without paying anything (and it wasn't so bad after all).

Anyway, after listening to my 625th album, I have just finished the 1980s! Most overrated bands of the 1980s: Iron Maiden, Sonic Youth, Pixies. The Iron Maiden stuff wasn't terrible, but everything sounds the same and it's pretty much elevator music to me. Aside from the 1-2 decent songs the latter two have, geez they are boring as hell and pretty bad. I've been looking forward to the 90s since it's pretty unexplored territory for me, especially the hip-hop side of things.
Never got into Iron Maiden or Pixies but Sonic Youth are in my top 10 bands for sure!

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Post by bal3x » April 19th, 2019, 2:17 pm

elevator music :D

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Post by brokenface » April 19th, 2019, 11:09 pm

mightysparks wrote:
April 19th, 2019, 7:15 am
Most overrated bands of the 1980s: Iron Maiden, Sonic Youth, Pixies.

Aside from the 1-2 decent songs the latter two have, geez they are boring as hell and pretty bad.
I listened to Surfer Rosa + C'mon Pilgrim today, first time for a while, still as utterly awesome as ever :wub:

Sonic Youth are also sublime. I wish you could experience them as I do

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Post by mightysparks » April 19th, 2019, 11:59 pm

Same, it would make this list much easier to work through :P I really love Sonic Youth’s version of Superstar but can’t stand anything else. And I like Here Comes Your Man and Where is My Mind from the Pixies but the rest of it is just annoying. Both of them just come across as emo teen screaming nonsense. It was pretty frustrating hearing something amazing like Here Comes Your Man alongside whatever the first song on that album was which was just screaming.
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Post by Gershwin » April 20th, 2019, 5:55 am

Mighty, maybe you should try Pixies album Bossanova. It's the only Pixies album I ever got into, and I'm under the impression it's much more melodic than a lot of their stuff. Don't completely understand why it seems to be less critically appraised.
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Post by mightysparks » April 20th, 2019, 9:17 am

Bossanova is actually coming up in this next year of the list so I guess I'll listen to it within the next week or so. Hopefully it's a little more enjoyable..
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Post by bal3x » April 20th, 2019, 11:14 am

What's up with the Pixies bashing? Great band, pretty much unique sound.

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Post by Gershwin » April 21st, 2019, 8:20 pm

No bashing from me. I just don't feel very enthusiastic about most of their music, except for a few songs and Bossanova.
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Post by mightysparks » April 24th, 2019, 2:48 am

I listened to both Goo and Bossanova recently and thought they were both the 'best' albums from their respective bands so far. Can't say I loved either, but Bossanova was decently enjoyable and I quite liked Is She Weird and another song that I forgot to check the name of.
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Post by mightysparks » May 10th, 2019, 1:17 am

Oh god, the 1990s is just full of fecking death/trash/whatever metal. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I went back through the 1950s-1980s charts to see what new albums have popped in and am starting to listen to those to get a break from the metal. I would rather listen to the 4 hour operas and jazz albums. RYM members have the worst taste in music srsly. So much pain.
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Post by funkybusiness » May 10th, 2019, 1:20 am

metal mafia gets shit done on rym, for sure

I might update/do this over again this summer. we'll see.


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Post by funkybusiness » May 10th, 2019, 1:22 am

is it bread? I can't ever remember that one.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » May 10th, 2019, 1:24 am

funkybusiness wrote:
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is it bread? I can't ever remember that one.

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Post by funkybusiness » May 10th, 2019, 1:32 am

awww shit goin buckwild with that 2nd corinthians 5:17 dance. name checking the blood uh jesus.

i'd never seen the clip, stellar stuff.

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Post by mightysparks » May 10th, 2019, 1:40 am

funkybusiness wrote:
May 10th, 2019, 1:20 am
metal mafia gets shit done on rym, for sure

I might update/do this over again this summer. we'll see.
And the names of the artists/albums/songs are so hilariously dumb and teen-edgy like 'god sucks', 'hail satan', 'rawr i'm angry' etc.

I found about 50-70 new albums from the 60s - 80s (just looked at the decades I've already finished for now). I guess there's a lot of new ones from the last 4 years as well. I'm still trying to listen to about 2 a day, but I'm still in 1991 and I'm struggling to get through more than 1 metal thing a day. I had to listen to Atheists' Unquestionable Presence this morning and that was the worst so far, but I think I'm getting less tolerant of them now. And judging by the names of the next few albums, I have THREE MORE IN A ROW which might actually kill me.
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » May 10th, 2019, 1:48 am

Sorry for going there, but gotta mention it.
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No, just the ones making snarky comments whilst crying because they can't possibly ignore a list they don't like or people who like something they don't. Though anyone who dismisses an entire genre or film movement deserves it really.
I think the same can be applied with music.

Saying metal is not for you is one thing, but I don't like that you're talking shit about an entire website database. There are two things I like with metal music. 1) It can be some of the catchiest music out there. No really. I can always hum to some fantastic death metal guitar riffs. Incantation did it the best. 2) This is most apparent with black metal. It can be some of the most emotional music out there. Everything from the sorrowful guitar riffs to hearing the pain in the cries of the vocalists. It can be phenomenal.

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Post by mightysparks » May 10th, 2019, 1:56 am

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
May 10th, 2019, 1:48 am
Sorry for going there, but gotta mention it.
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No, just the ones making snarky comments whilst crying because they can't possibly ignore a list they don't like or people who like something they don't. Though anyone who dismisses an entire genre or film movement deserves it really.
I think the same can be applied with music.

Saying metal is not for you is one thing, but I don't like that you're talking shit about an entire website database. There are two things I like with metal music. 1) It can be some of the catchiest music out there. No really. I can always hum to some fantastic death metal guitar riffs. Incantation did it the best. 2) This is most apparent with black metal. It can be some of the most emotional music out there. Everything from the sorrowful guitar riffs to hearing the pain in the cries of the vocalists. It can be phenomenal.
But I'm not dismissing an entire genre, I'm literally here sitting through it and listening to more of it even though I haven't heard anything I've liked about it so far. And my comment about the RYM community was half a joke, but what I really meant was that my tastes clearly do not align with theirs - at all. And I feel like they are not as varied or wide as say, the iCM community is with film. I feel like, their top 1001 albums don't 'objectively' give me a good overview of the best that music has to offer (from a critical/acclaim pov), nor does it feel like a really eclectic mix of things that everyone might like.
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » May 10th, 2019, 2:02 am

Critics suffer from this with their albums list too. For example, it's always the same two jazz musicians: John Coltrane and Miles Davis. The RYM charts are quite good as they include hip hop and metal albums high up in their charts. However, I find them severely lacking in stuff like electronic, industrial, modern classical, experimental, etc. But, I feel that way with lists like TSPDT as well.

There is a flaw with the overall RYM charts too. Notice that they have tens of thousands of ratings. But, most of these users only rate a few albums, usually the praised classics like The Beatles and Pink Floyd. I find the charts for the recent years to be a lot more eclectic as they are from currently active users.

I also don't really see what you mean by those teen-edgy kind of bands names from your ratings. Maybe Dismember but that's pretty much it. I find the teen-edgy stuff to be from other subgenres of metal music like goregrind and pornogrind.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » May 10th, 2019, 2:09 am

Hell, you could make the argument that the ICM community is not as varied. Look at what has the most favourites in the most popular movies section. https://www.icheckmovies.com/charts/movies/ it's all the obvious films.

This community in the forum is a niche community within this website. I can show you the top 1001 of my friends list, which is much more niche than the website as a whole, and you will see a much more varied list.

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Post by mightysparks » May 10th, 2019, 2:17 am

Yeah, I agree that critics lists always have problems too, but I guess with film is because I read about it and read about the films, whereas with the music stuff I just listen to it and move onto the next so I'm not getting much context. And yea I agree that iCM isn't so 'varied', but that list gives you a good overview of the most popular films and covers a wide range of genre/styles/decades/countries (not for 'advanced cinephiles', but as a community of film fans it's about what you expect), and then something like the most favourited list gives you a slightly more eclectic version. But then you look at say, Mubi's favourites list and I feel like I'm looking at a clique-y type of list like RYM, where it's all a bit less mainstream but has less variety and feels like it's all voted by the same kind of person.

I agree that the more recent charts on RYM are most interesting, I don't listen to them much but I often browse through to see the highest rated albums of the year/decade and especially from genres I like. The top 1001 just feels a little 'clique-y', I guess. Though, as I've been listening to it chronologically it does give me a feel as to how the genres and sounds have evolved.

And some of the metal stuff; Autopsy is also funny, and Megadeath and 'Rust in Peace' (but I think the latter is kind of a 'fun' title) and some of the song titles:
- Sinners Bleed
- Bleed for Me
- Skin Her Alive
- Twisted Mass of Burnt Decay
- Torn From the Womb

and sometimes I can understand a lyric or too here or there and it will just be screaming 'RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWR GOD IS DEADD RAWWWWWR' and I just lol.
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » May 10th, 2019, 2:21 am

Honestly, I don't care about the lyrics. I feel like for metal it's about the delivery, and the flow of them. I guess this is from listening to a lot of foreign music where I can't understand the lyrics anyways.

Only time I could think of in recent memory where I had issues with vocals was with Demilich's Nespithe where the vocalist sounds like he's burping. That album is in the top 1001 too ;)

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Post by mightysparks » May 10th, 2019, 2:26 am

Yeah I don’t care much about lyrics either, in terms of what they’re actually saying, though I do like flow and I sometimes like ‘poetic’ language (poetic to my ears not a literal definition of poetic). But I just find that kind of basic lyric funny. I don’t the metal stuff catchy at all, though some of the less scream-y stuff is sometimes tolerable. I find it makes me feel really irritated and my legs shake until it’s over. But I’m not really into depressing and angry kind of music, 60s bubblegum pop is like my favourite kind of music and I definitely prefer stuff that is happy and pop-py with a good beat. I do like a bit of melancholy lo-fi stuff but the harsh stuff just doesn’t sit well with me.
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Post by mightysparks » May 11th, 2019, 7:59 am

Question: Queensryche - Operation: LIVEcrime? It's listed as 1991 but the only 1991 version I can find (there are also 2001 version) is this: https://rateyourmusic.com/release/video ... livecrime/, which is a 'video' and not listed in the charts. Was this a mistake that made it's way into the spreadsheet or has something changed on the site?
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Post by funkybusiness » May 11th, 2019, 8:08 am

I think the difference is 1991 was the original release, and 2001 is a re-master/re-release. the video, cassette and cd are all the same thing, I think, but the video is like 20 minutes longer. I think the date difference is from either a split or a merge of two different entries in their database.
I just realized I don't have my original spreadsheet anymore so I can't exactly check the info hahaa

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Post by mightysparks » May 11th, 2019, 8:18 am

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I think the difference is 1991 was the original release, and 2001 is a re-master/re-release. the video, cassette and cd are all the same thing, I think, but the video is like 20 minutes longer. I think the date difference is from either a split or a merge of two different entries in their database.
I just realized I don't have my original spreadsheet anymore so I can't exactly check the info hahaa
Yea, I'm happy to listen to it anyway but Idk whether to rate and listen to the 1991 video or the 2001 album. I edited your original spreadsheet for ease of checking things off so can't help you there :(
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Post by funkybusiness » May 11th, 2019, 8:28 am

rate this one:
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... livecrime/

or if you really want to rate the 1991 copy specifically:
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... e-crime-1/

the video copy you linked wouldn't appear on the albums chart. videos have their own chart.

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Post by mightysparks » July 13th, 2019, 3:10 am

Nearly done with 1995, and am now 75% of the way through the list :circle: I’ve also been working on the albums that have entered the list since I started, and I’ve finished all the new 60s entries and into the 70s now. I was listening to one on YouTube yesterday and it went onto a random album afterwards and I forgot to close it but it ended up catching my eye/ear and ended up being more enjoyable than most of the albums I’ve listened to so far (An Empty Bliss Beyond This World), so that was a nice find. The 90s have always been my least favourite era for music and it’s by far the worst slog that I’ve sat through for this list so far. A ridiculous number of metal albums, which yay if you like them but I hate all of it and I don’t understand why they’re rated so highly. And so much generic alt rock rubbish. Looking forward to the 21st century.
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Post by funkybusiness » July 13th, 2019, 7:06 am

well if mightysparks likes him, I guess that makes it a physical impossibility to dislike The Caretaker.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » July 13th, 2019, 12:18 pm

I wonder what mighty would think of everywhere at the end of time :lol:

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Having trouble finding the following if anyone can help: King Crimson - The Nightwatch: Live at the Amsterdam Concertgebouw November 23rd 1973
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Post by joachimt » July 25th, 2019, 5:56 pm

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July 25th, 2019, 10:50 am
Having trouble finding the following if anyone can help: King Crimson - The Nightwatch: Live at the Amsterdam Concertgebouw November 23rd 1973
I know you don't want this answer, but......
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https://www.discogs.com/King-Crimson-Th ... ter/237068
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Post by sebby » July 26th, 2019, 3:21 am

joachimt wrote:
July 25th, 2019, 5:56 pm
mightysparks wrote:
July 25th, 2019, 10:50 am
Having trouble finding the following if anyone can help: King Crimson - The Nightwatch: Live at the Amsterdam Concertgebouw November 23rd 1973
I know you don't want this answer, but......
87 For Sale from €5.00
https://www.discogs.com/King-Crimson-Th ... ter/237068
Years ago when i was poor and young and ravenously navigating my way through the world of music beyond mtv, in the internet's infancy, if I wanted to hear an album I would just buy it used and then flip it on ebay for a small loss (rarely, a small gain). now it seems too much trouble for most. if it's not on spotify or yourube or can't be torrented it doesn't exist, i guess.

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Post by mightysparks » July 26th, 2019, 3:25 am

sebby wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 3:21 am
joachimt wrote:
July 25th, 2019, 5:56 pm
mightysparks wrote:
July 25th, 2019, 10:50 am
Having trouble finding the following if anyone can help: King Crimson - The Nightwatch: Live at the Amsterdam Concertgebouw November 23rd 1973
I know you don't want this answer, but......
87 For Sale from €5.00
https://www.discogs.com/King-Crimson-Th ... ter/237068
Years ago when i was poor and young and ravenously navigating my way through the world of music beyond mtv, in the internet's infancy, if I wanted to hear an album I would just buy it used and then flip it on ebay for a small loss (rarely, a small gain). now it seems too much trouble for most. if it's not on spotify or yourube or can't be torrented it doesn't exist, i guess.
Well, no, but buying something that I'm not personally interested in to listen/watch once and then forget about is a last resort option. The last time I spent money on music was 2004 so it's not really something I like to do...
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Post by joachimt » July 26th, 2019, 6:31 am

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July 26th, 2019, 3:25 am
The last time I spent money on music was 2004
This makes me so sad. :'(
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Post by mightysparks » July 26th, 2019, 6:55 am

joachimt wrote:
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mightysparks wrote:
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The last time I spent money on music was 2004
This makes me so sad. :'(
Well I do pay for Spotify premium now lol, so I guess I am spending money on music. But that was the last time I bought a specific piece of music (House of 1000 Corpses soundtrack). I think I only bought about 20 cds and a handful of tapes as a kid though. I never liked music until I discovered the 60s as a teen.
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Post by joachimt » July 26th, 2019, 7:15 am

mightysparks wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 6:55 am
joachimt wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 6:31 am
mightysparks wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 3:25 am
The last time I spent money on music was 2004
This makes me so sad. :'(
Well I do pay for Spotify premium now lol, so I guess I am spending money on music. But that was the last time I bought a specific piece of music (House of 1000 Corpses soundtrack). I think I only bought about 20 cds and a handful of tapes as a kid though. I never liked music until I discovered the 60s as a teen.
Well, paying for Spotify is the least thing you can do. Not that artists make a lot of money out of it. Best way to survive as a band nowadays is to be on the road whole year through.
You do go to concerts now and then right? I guess you pay for the tickets? :unsure:
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