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Post by brokenface » August 30th, 2020, 7:44 am

Yeah Mrs America was really good. I too enjoyed that reference at the end, even if not particular fan of the film in question

Wasn't too surprised to learn that the person behind it also worked on Mad Men as it had pretty similar vibe (+John Slattery). Great soundtrack too

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Post by outdoorcats » August 30th, 2020, 3:47 pm

Mad Men and Mrs. America definitely share an interest in looking at conservative characters from a subtly progressive framework. It's all about where the shot lingers after someone says something.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » September 2nd, 2020, 8:03 pm

Nathan for You really needs to come back.
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Post by maxwelldeux » September 16th, 2020, 1:37 am

I don't know if any of y'all are interested in Food Competition shows or food TV, but The Final Table is fantastic - probably the highest level of cooking I've seen. They brought in 24 brilliant chefs from around the world, paired them up, and each week they "visited" a country and made a traditional dish from that country. Bottom 3 Teams cooked for a top-notch chef (think 3 Michelin stars) from that country, where the competitors have to feature a local ingredient chosen by that chef. You get a little culture and a lot of food. Great show. On Netflix.

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » September 16th, 2020, 11:35 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
September 16th, 2020, 1:37 am
I don't know if any of y'all are interested in Food Competition shows or food TV, but The Final Table is fantastic - probably the highest level of cooking I've seen. They brought in 24 brilliant chefs from around the world, paired them up, and each week they "visited" a country and made a traditional dish from that country. Bottom 3 Teams cooked for a top-notch chef (think 3 Michelin stars) from that country, where the competitors have to feature a local ingredient chosen by that chef. You get a little culture and a lot of food. Great show. On Netflix.
I watched that with my mother a few times, but it kept reaching that same pattern that it became tiresome. The more avant-garde chefs would always be in the elimination round because what they made are not traditional, but then the Michelin star chefs prefer the more avant-garde things.

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Post by outdoorcats » September 17th, 2020, 2:24 am

Recently I found myself going through The Wire again [the HD remaster this time], for the first time in a long while. This time I found myself paying far more attention to the political scenes and the bureaucratic scheming, and the way the show constantly draws parallels between street crime and white collar corruption. The entire show is full of those types of parallels. Watch how this intro is edited, for example:
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-A wire, a tool used to connect two different things; followed by shots of drugs, money, and someone carrying a suitcase by the Capitol building
-Followed in turn by shots of large-scale construction and grinning developers
-Lots of other clever studies in contrast: a doctor listening to a pregnant woman's belly followed by a court order authorizing a wiretap, a coat being sexily unzipped against a body bag being zipped, the visual of wires emulated by streams of blood, etc.

It's clearer this time around that the show is specifically and deliberately an anti-capitalist show about the increasing loss of value of human life. It's depressing to think that even the show's most cynical conclusions of what the future held still didn't come close to where we are now in 2020.

I also recently finished a feature ensemble script and have a much greater appreciation how hard it is to vividly introduce a large cast of characters, make each one memorable and individual, and hardest of all make them all equally interesting. The fact that this show had a small writing staff and most seasons were nearly entirely written by two people...it gives me a headache just thinking about it.

Still the angriest show on television, still some of the most heartbreaking moments ever, still a 99.5% perfect show. That 0.5% was deducted for how Kima's character was written in Season 3. A tiny arc out of an otherwise outstanding season, but still, that was bullshit. David Simon is still the 21st century, American reincarnation of Charles Dickens.

I assume there are other fans of the show here?

[If you're a viewer going through the series for the first time, find a copy with subtitles--especially if you're not from the U.S.]

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Post by mightysparks » September 17th, 2020, 2:29 am

I watched the first 3 seasons or so but could never get into it at all. Incredibly boring :(
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Post by maxwelldeux » September 17th, 2020, 3:47 am

outdoorcats wrote:
September 17th, 2020, 2:24 am
I assume there are other fans of the show here?
Uh yeah - if I were ranking TV shows, that would certainly be #1.

I'm probably due for a rewatch of it and would like to pay attention to different aspects a lot more. I was mostly looking at race/class/police relations in it, as those are my interests. But I think it's such a rich show that it's (almost) infinitely rewatchable.

PS: If you haven't seen it, check out The Corner.

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Post by outdoorcats » September 17th, 2020, 5:29 am

I've been looking for a way to watch The Corner for years (for whatever reason, it's not in HBO's streaming library). At some point, I'll just order the DVDs online.

Also have yet to see the final two seasons of Homicide: LotS, which despite being widely acclaimed as one of the best TV shows of the '90s is somehow not available on any of the 10,000 streaming services offered nowadays.

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Post by blocho » September 18th, 2020, 5:04 am

outdoorcats wrote:
September 17th, 2020, 2:24 am
I also recently finished a feature ensemble script and have a much greater appreciation how hard it is to vividly introduce a large cast of characters, make each one memorable and individual, and hardest of all make them all equally interesting.
Do you like the movies of John Sayles? I think he's superb at building ensemble stories that do all the things you listed above.

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Post by outdoorcats » September 18th, 2020, 5:33 am

I've liked all of the movies I've seen of Sayles, and Lone Star is one of my all-time favorites (which, like The Wire, is very novelistic).

For me, an "8" is excellent, likely in the top 10 of that year.

Return of the Seacaucus 7 - 7.5
Matewan - 8
Passion Fish - 6.5
The Secret of Roan Inish - 6.5
Lone Star - 10
Men With Guns - 8.5

As writer - The Howling - 7

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Post by blocho » September 18th, 2020, 2:35 pm

outdoorcats wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 5:33 am
I've liked all of the movies I've seen of Sayles, and Lone Star is one of my all-time favorites (which, like The Wire, is very novelistic).

For me, an "8" is excellent, likely in the top 10 of that year.

Return of the Seacaucus 7 - 7.5
Matewan - 8
Passion Fish - 6.5
The Secret of Roan Inish - 6.5
Lone Star - 10
Men With Guns - 8.5

As writer - The Howling - 7
Nice! I'd strongly recommend City of Hope.

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