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Post by mightysparks » April 3rd, 2020, 1:35 pm

I love Extras more than The Office. I haven’t bothered with After Life. I think The Ricky Gervais show is a must prereq before going onto An Idiot Abroad to get to know Karl first, and it’s hilarious. I never found Gervais very funny until listening to the XFM shows, and they’re definitely my favourite of all. I think the three work better together than on their own (Karl gets irritating and he’s funny mostly because of Steve and Ricky’s reactions to him). Hello Ladies is alright but Steve has gotten weird since he left Ricky.
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Post by AdamH » April 3rd, 2020, 3:34 pm

Thanks. I've never actually watched any of the Karl Pilkington stuff but something has always put me off. I might give it a shot. I don't know why but nothing after The Office/Extras has particularly appealed to me although I've thought about watching After Life recently.

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Post by Armoreska » April 15th, 2020, 1:34 pm

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Post by sebby » April 16th, 2020, 8:42 am

Really enjoying Devs. It's rare for me to get into tv sci-fi so it's been a nice surprise.

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Post by mightysparks » April 16th, 2020, 9:28 am

Haven’t heard of it but it’s rare for me not to love a sci-fi show so I’ll try and check it out..

In other news, I’ve gotten my boyfriend hooked on the Ricky Gervais show. I’ve nearly finished all of the radio/podcasts and he’s just starting, but it’s weird to pause mine and then hear their voices coming from his room. It’s nice to have someone to discuss it with again and not have to explain entire conversations and ‘characters’. He doesn’t have a favourite yet but doesn’t really like Karl.
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Post by sebby » April 16th, 2020, 12:23 pm

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Haven’t heard of it but it’s rare for me not to love a sci-fi show so I’ll try and check it out..

In other news, I’ve gotten my boyfriend hooked on the Ricky Gervais show. I’ve nearly finished all of the radio/podcasts and he’s just starting, but it’s weird to pause mine and then hear their voices coming from his room. It’s nice to have someone to discuss it with again and not have to explain entire conversations and ‘characters’. He doesn’t have a favourite yet but doesn’t really like Karl.
It's an alex garland project so how you feel about his films will probably be close to how you feel about the show.

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Post by kongs_speech » April 16th, 2020, 10:28 pm

I remember The Ricky Gervais Show on HBO with the neat little animations. I rather enjoyed that. HBO had a few years there in the late 2000s where they were putting out some pretty neat comedic programming that went largely unnoticed. Gervais, Funny or Die Presents and The Life and Times of Tim were all great. Animals a few years ago felt like sort of a return to that brand of humor, but unfortunately HBO barely promoted it at all.
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Post by mightysparks » April 18th, 2020, 3:03 pm

I've been bingeing on Devs all day, have about 3 eps left. Pretty good, tense and slowburn, nice imagery and music. I thought the characters were a little lame at first but they've grown on me. Nice rec, sebby.
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Post by blocho » April 20th, 2020, 11:22 pm

I watched The Little Drummer Girl miniseries over the weekend, and let me start by saying that it's a lot better than the 1984 Diane Keaton porno flick of the same title. So that's something. But this more recent version is still a failure, and to explain why I have to say first that I'm a great admirer of John le Carre's works. I've read sixteen of his novels, and I'd put Little Drummer Girl as my third favorite. I'm far from the first to make the observation, but I'll repeat it: le Carre's writing is not fundamentally about espionage. It is about humanity. Espionage is a crucible through which humanity is put in extremis in his work, thus revealing unknown and startling depths of character.

And therein lies the failing of this miniseries. There is no exploration of character. There are gestures in its direction, but the viewer never really understands why the main characters are making the choices they make. And that's an element that is very present in the original novel. So despite fine period details and a strong score, I thought this was a failed adaptation.

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Post by kongs_speech » April 20th, 2020, 11:43 pm

I don't watch much TV these days, but I rewatch a couple episodes of Daria pretty much every night on Hulu. It's my favorite show and I find it very comforting. Beyond that, I caught a new episode of Bob's Burgers last night and enjoyed it. It's impressive that the show is still so funny this deep into its run. That seems to happen a lot with cartoons. I'm disappointed that the movie most likely will not be coming out this summer.
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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 21st, 2020, 1:38 am

A myst tv show just got announced. How the fuck is that gonna work?

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Post by funkybusiness » April 21st, 2020, 3:29 am

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A myst tv show just got announced. How the fuck is that gonna work?
interactive television? I hope. but unlikely.

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Post by mightysparks » April 21st, 2020, 3:31 pm

Boyfriend is still listening to the Ricky Gervais XFM show. Walks out of his room to me playing Portal 2 ‘I was just listening to Stephen Merchant in there and then I come out and he’s talking out here’ lol. Now we’re watching The Office, and then Extras. I’ve only watched The Office once about 7 years ago, so I don’t remember much. Enjoying it again and bf seems to like it too. Nice to drag him into my Gervais/Merchant love fest. All I can hear coming from his room are either gunshots or Ricky’s screeching laugh.
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Post by AdamH » April 21st, 2020, 3:37 pm

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Boyfriend is still listening to the Ricky Gervais XFM show. Walks out of his room to me playing Portal 2 ‘I was just listening to Stephen Merchant in there and then I come out and he’s talking out here’ lol. Now we’re watching The Office, and then Extras. I’ve only watched The Office once about 7 years ago, so I don’t remember much. Enjoying it again and bf seems to like it too. Nice to drag him into my Gervais/Merchant love fest. All I can hear coming from his room are either gunshots or Ricky’s screeching laugh.
LOVE The Office. Tim is my all-time favourite TV character.

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 22nd, 2020, 2:21 am

Watched 3 episodes of King of the Hill and holy hell it is fantastic.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » April 22nd, 2020, 12:51 pm

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Watched 3 episodes of King of the Hill and holy hell it is fantastic.
Yeah, that's a show that I recall watching some episodes here and there as a kid/young teen, but never stuck with, but then I watched the whole show over the last year or two and I love it now. Mike Judge rarely does wrong in my book (the only exception I've seen is a short-lived show he did about 10 years ago called The Goode Family, which was pretty crappy). I can re-watch KOTH and Beavis and Butt-head (WITH the music videos commentary, of course) any time. At some point during your KOTH viewing you might wanna check these trippy edits out (the uploader has 6 more of them on his page):

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » April 24th, 2020, 1:57 pm

I finally caught up to the Better Call Saul season finale...
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and the path of Kim Wexler just gets more interesting and unexpected. Again, Rhea Seehorn continues to impress me. It does seem a little weird and overboard to me in the way she's planning on ruining Howard to such a degree. Obviously it will be interesting to see how that all plays out in the next (and final) season. As for the attempted assassination of Lalo...wow, what a clusterfuck, I don't know if that was a rare instance of poor writing, regarding how inept that hit squad appeared to be, or if they were ill-prepared by Gus, Mike, and whoever else (eg. not having the intel that Lalo is an insomniac and likely wouldn't just be an easy target sleeping in his bed. Plus, surely they didn't know about the tunnel). But it also just seemed like a lot of poor tactics/dumb decision-making by the supposedly "best in the business" (Fring's words) team of assassins. Anyways, overall I thought it was a FANTASTIC season of television, with only some hiccups there in the finale.
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Post by outdoorcats » April 24th, 2020, 3:36 pm

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What was so inept about the hit squad? They seemed to be using military tactics and took out an entire compound with presumably many armed guards. It's not their fault Lalo is the Terminator.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » April 24th, 2020, 4:04 pm

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What was so inept about the hit squad? They seemed to be using military tactics and took out an entire compound with presumably many armed guards. It's not their fault Lalo is the Terminator.
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OK, perhaps the hit squad wasn't "inept" so much as poorly prepared (information-wise) about Lalo's compound and as I noted, they likely weren't aware that he'd be awake in the middle of the night. And after Lalo threw the pan of hot grease in the one assassin's face, the other nearby assassin fired his weapon like crazy seemingly aiming at nothing in particular, IIRC. And a couple of other assassins go into that tunnel before knowing where it leads to (again, if I recall that correctly). Just sitting ducks down there when Lalo circled back and mowed them down.
Anyways, all that stuff above is a relatively minor quibble in the scheme of things...this season was wonderful overall. What did you make of the finale, on the whole?
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Post by Traveller » April 24th, 2020, 4:45 pm

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Really good season again. Especially Tony Dalton was phenomenal in every scene he was in.
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Post by outdoorcats » April 24th, 2020, 6:45 pm

I was floored by this whole season Gruesome. I agree with Traveller that Tony Dalton shone this season even more than last season and don't @ me, but I think he's inching close to Gus for all-time best antagonist in the Breaking Bad universe. If there's one thing Gilligan seems to have inherited from his X Files days, it's how to write iconic villains.
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I don't see either Nacho or his father surviving the final season, unfortunately. But I'm holding to my theory that Kim survives. And now the most interesting question is, did Jimmy really "corrupt" her or was she like this deep down all along? I think her extreme turn against Howard is partially influenced by PTSD, but she's always shared Jimmy's bitterness against the stupid and powerful. I guess that now that she's had a gun to her head so to speak, her plan doesn't seem as outrageous in comparison to what she's already been through recently.

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Post by mightysparks » April 25th, 2020, 10:03 am

I've avoided Better Call Saul because it looked like a comedic spin-off of Breaking Bad, but it seems like a lot of people think it's good.. Should you go in expecting something similar in 'feel' to Breaking Bad or is it something else?
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Post by AdamH » April 25th, 2020, 10:08 am

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I've avoided Better Call Saul because it looked like a comedic spin-off of Breaking Bad, but it seems like a lot of people think it's good.. Should you go in expecting something similar in 'feel' to Breaking Bad or is it something else?
Breaking Bad is my favourite programme and I was very sceptical about Better Call Saul but it's actually excellent. Very well done. I've still got to watch the latest season but I've been very impressed so far. I think it has a different feel to Breaking Bad but retains some similarities and has quite a few Breaking Bad characters in it. I'd definitely recommend it.

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Post by 72aicm » April 25th, 2020, 10:29 am

I’d say it’s better than Breaking Bad.

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Post by blocho » April 25th, 2020, 5:28 pm

Similar but different. It should be noted that Breaking Bad was also comedic, especially in the early seasons. Better Call Saul feels like those early seasons in its blend of comedy with crime drama. It's also excellent.

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Post by brokenface » April 25th, 2020, 8:22 pm

Yeah i wouldn't say it's any heavier on comedy than Breaking Bad. I'd say it's more character-driven drama where Breaking Bad was more plot-driven thriller, although both have elements of each at different times.

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Post by outdoorcats » April 25th, 2020, 10:32 pm

It's actually maybe a bit less comedic than Breaking Bad IMO. It's a slower and more character-based drama with fantastic writing. It's more of a legal drama at first but in the later seasons it integrates more and more of the crime/action/suspense elements from BB.

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Post by mightysparks » April 26th, 2020, 12:53 am

Sounds good, I’ll check it out :thumbsup:

Someone on here mentioned The Leftovers at some point and I watched the first episode last nights. Really like the concept but it’s a bit slow.
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Post by outdoorcats » April 26th, 2020, 12:48 pm

That was me, it's my favorite show. It's pretty slow at first, yes. The first season is based on a book by Tom Perotta (who wrote Election and Little Children), and it's excellent and all, but it's the 2nd and 3rd seasons that take the show into the stratosphere.

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Post by Traveller » April 26th, 2020, 5:04 pm

Definitely the best show of the last decade, probably ever.
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Post by sebby » May 3rd, 2020, 4:56 am

Watchmen is so good. Stupid to have put it off. The hate for it was nothing but thinly veiled racism.

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Post by kongs_speech » May 3rd, 2020, 5:54 am

I don't have HBO, but my steelbook of the series from Best Buy should arrive in June. It's my favorite book and one of my top 20 films, so I hope the series lives up to the hype.
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Post by mightysparks » May 5th, 2020, 9:08 am

Checking out Watchmen now (just finished ep 2). I hadn't even heard of the show til sebby's post, and I saw the film when it went came out (which I liked) and otherwise know nothing about Watchmen in general. It's good, but I'm not completely gripped. I don't quite 'get' it, tbh (it’s very American and I think there are references to the source material) though I think it's solid and well-made so far, with a really strong female lead.
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Post by outdoorcats » May 5th, 2020, 7:21 pm

The film was a very faithful adaptation of the source material, except the ending (what
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Post by blocho » May 5th, 2020, 8:33 pm

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Checking out Watchmen now (just finished ep 2). I hadn't even heard of the show til sebby's post, and I saw the film when it went came out (which I liked) and otherwise know nothing about Watchmen in general. It's good, but I'm not completely gripped. I don't quite 'get' it, tbh (it’s very American and I think there are references to the source material) though I think it's solid and well-made so far, with a really strong female lead.
I knew almost nothing about the comic but loved the miniseries. In some way, I think that added to my enjoyment. That being said, it is a very American series, and there are all sorts of references that might not make sense to people from other countries.

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Post by mightysparks » May 5th, 2020, 11:35 pm

Yea I started getting hooked after ep 4 or so and watched ep 8 before going to bed. I was meant to do homework at some point and spent the entire day watching it sooo... Couldn’t remember anything about the film except for a couple of character names and the cheesy sex scene so I went into this basically blind. Love the way it slowly unravels everything, the world is really interesting (though, yea, lots of American references but after a few eps this isn’t such a huge deal), and a really strong cast and set of characters.
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Post by outdoorcats » May 6th, 2020, 12:07 am

It's even better to rewatch. :) All of the characters are so iconic and quotable. How would you rank them?

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Post by mightysparks » May 6th, 2020, 12:35 am

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It's even better to rewatch. :) All of the characters are so iconic and quotable. How would you rank them?
Dunno, I probably like them all about equally. I don't like dislike anyone. I like Angela and Laurie, they're probably my favourites. I like Jeremy Irons' character a lot too, at first I thought his scenes were a little OTT but they quickly grew on me.
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