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Remember this? :lol: they will forever remain in my heart as one of the funniest meme bands

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sebby wrote: April 17th, 2020, 12:29 pm Hot take of the weekend: New Fiona Apple album ain't all that great. People done lost their minds.
I'd be careful if I were you.

Fantano got cancelled and shat on by tens of thousands of people and is now labelled in twitter as a misogynist. Why? He gave the Fiona Apple album a 7/10. You know... a rating that means an album is great. Definitely misogynistic right there... even though he gave another woman singer/songwriter a 9 like a few days before... even though his aoty last year was by a woman... even though he gave Fiona's last album a 9.

People "stanning" over an artist they haven't even heard of until last week to the point that they do something as trivial as this is honestly the most pathetic thing I've seen on the internet.

Instead of attending workshops, instead of partaking in activism, instead of debating the far right to try to convince them to change their ways (although knowing them if someone turned to the left after realizing they were wrong they would probably still get shat on and kicked out of the left for their past), hell, instead of calling people out on actual bullshit, they just do incredibly pathetic shit like this. They just attack people on their own side too. They lack the fucking guts to actually make a difference in this world. All they accomplish by doing this is scaring away potential leftists and making them be more exclusionary. This may come across as incredibly far-fetched, but it makes sense if you think about it. ISIL was incredibly exclusionary. What happened to them? Their movement died within a few years. It'll happen to these ridiculous twitter users too if they keep going like this.
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They've been trying to cancel the Melon for years.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: April 23rd, 2020, 7:06 pm
sebby wrote: April 17th, 2020, 12:29 pm Hot take of the weekend: New Fiona Apple album ain't all that great. People done lost their minds.
I'd be careful if I were you.

Fantano got cancelled and shat on by tens of thousands of people and is now labelled in twitter as a misogynist. Why? He gave the Fiona Apple album a 7/10. You know... a rating that means an album is great. Definitely misogynistic right there... even though he gave another woman singer/songwriter a 9 like a few days before... even though his aoty last year was by a woman... even though he gave Fiona's last album a 9.

People "stanning" over an artist they haven't even heard of until last week to the point that they do something as trivial as this is honestly the most pathetic thing I've seen on the internet.

Instead of attending workshops, instead of partaking in activism, instead of debating the far right to try to convince them to change their ways (although knowing them if someone turned to the left after realizing they were wrong they would probably still get shat on and kicked out of the left for their past), hell, instead of calling people out on actual bullshit, they just do incredibly pathetic shit like this. They just attack people on their own side too. They lack the fucking guts to actually make a difference in this world. All they accomplish by doing this is scaring away potential leftists and making them be more exclusionary. This may come across as incredibly far-fetched, but it makes sense if you think about it. ISIL was incredibly exclusionary. What happened to them? Their movement died within a few years. It'll happen to these ridiculous twitter users too if they keep going like this.
The internet has made it too easy for wackos to have equal or near-equal footing with everyone else. And because there are so many wackos, they can glom onto a movement or organize protests against science or whatever very easily. The batshit crazy pseudofeminists have their favorites (fiona, kamala harris (lol), etc) and wave away all criticism of those figures as misogyny.

Fantano still needs to answer for not recognizing DAMN. as the small masterstroke it is, though.
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I also follow thesoundbinge, a woman music critic. She gave Fiona a 6. Is she gonna get cancelled too lol
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Only thing worse than a misogynist male is a self-hating woman, which she clearly must be if she isn't giving kween Fiona a 10/10!
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I'm going through my vinyl collection to find out which records I actually like. Accidentally started playing a Status Quo record at 45 RPM instead of 33. Sounds a lot better than the original, like some kind of Japanese power rock. Now I still don't know if I want to keep it. :lol:
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Disappointing but not all that surprising considering that Manson's public persona is built on being shocking and edgy, plus I had heard rumors about bad things in the Wood relationship before. I love most of his music and videos, but I never necessarily thought he was a great person, and I certainly don't now.
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Was listening to Times Like These (the new lockdown recording).

This comment on Youtube sums up my thoughts:

"I was like: "Oh look, Foo Fighters singing together with all these young unknown talented people, so cute!"
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Haven't even heard of the lockdown recording, but that post pretty much sums up how I feel when anyone discusses music released in the last 15 years lol
mightysparks wrote: February 7th, 2020, 2:20 pm Finally finished the 1970s. These album projects have reaffirmed my belief that the 90s and 70s are the worst decades for music, but I find the 70s to be a particular slog. Way too much punk in the last couple of years for some of these lists.

Best finds from the 70s (that I hadn't listened to before):
Syd Barrett - The Madcap Laughs (1970) 7/10
Mott The Hoople - Mott (1973) 7/10
10cc - Sheet Music (1974) 7/10
Various Artists - Saturday Night Fever (1977) 7/10
The Cars - The Cars (1978) 7/10
The Police - Outlandos d'Amour (1978) 7/10
Buddy Holly & The Crickets - 20 Golden Greats (1978) 7/10
Cheap Trick - At Budokan (1979) 7/10

In between these lists, I have also finished listening to all the albums of the songs I heard and liked last year, these were the highlights:
BRONCHO - Bad Behavior (2018) 7/10
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Nonagon Infinity (2016) 7/10

I have also started listening to albums of genres that I tend to like, or just in general stuff that I might like but I haven't had any luck with those yet.

Current stats:
1001 Albums You Must See Before You Die (2013 edition): 615/1001
Rolling Stones' Top 500 Albums of All Time (2012): 387/500
Pitchfork 1960s: 200/200
Pitchfork 1970s: 100/100
Pitchfork 1980s: 50/100
Pitchfork 1990s: 58/100
Pitchfork 2000s: 56/200
Pitchfork 2010s: 30/200
The 80s are done! I quite liked the journey through the 80s this time. The RYM list had too much metal, but these lists had a lot more variety and new wave/pop stuff that I liked. Though, this batch did have the one 'proper' metal album that I thought was ok: I didn't like it but it was the best I've heard (Anthrax's Among the Living).

Best finds from the 80s (that I hadn't listened to before):
Adam and the Ants - Kings of the Wild Frontier (1980) 7/10
ABC - The Lexicon of Love (1982) 7/10
Chuck Berry - The Great Twenty-Eight (1982) 7/10
Duran Duran - Rio (1982) 7/10
Madness - The Rise & Fall (1982) 7/10
XTC - English Settlement (1982) 7/10
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. (1984) 7/10
a-ha - Hunting High and Low (1985) 7/10
Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair (1985) 7/10
Abdullah Ibrahim - Water From an Ancient Well (1986) 7/10
Pet Shop Boys - Actually (1987) 7/10
The Dukes of Stratosphear - Psonic Psunspot (1987) 7/10 <- likely going to end up an 8 on a re-listen
The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs [compilation] (1987) 7/10

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1001 Albums You Must See Before You Die (2013 edition): 761/1001
Rolling Stones' Top 500 Albums of All Time (2012): 436/500
Pitchfork 1960s: 200/200
Pitchfork 1970s: 100/100
Pitchfork 1980s: 100/100
Pitchfork 1990s: 58/100
Pitchfork 2000s: 57/200
Pitchfork 2010s: 30/200
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The only good things the 80s brought is goth rock, post-punk, industrial, no wave, noise, and some pop exceptions like Kate Bush, Talk Talk, and Jane Siberry.
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There's some good American punk and power pop, too. Zero Boys for instance. Also second wave and golden age hip-hop. Some good shit there.
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New wave/synth and pop are my favourite genres so the 80s are pretty easy for me to like. Not a massive fan of hip-hop, but it is a lot easier for me to listen to now than it once was, plus I occasionally find stuff I like and at least I hate a lot less than I expected (its takeover on music in the early 2000s was the reason I stopped listening to the radio, so it was something I completely ignored for nearly 20 years). I did find it much more of a mix of genres and styles than the other decades so far (even if the 60s is my favourite). I didn't like everything of course but some interesting stuff. It's interesting doing the lists chronologically and watching genres evolve or be created, and getting a sense of what sounds define the decades.
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It's Mother's Day in Australia tomorrow.
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The new Charli album is pop music perfected.
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: May 15th, 2020, 8:01 pm The new Charli album is pop music perfected.
It's very good. If peefork can give bolt cutters a 10, then they need to throw one at charli while they're feeling so charitable.
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Less than two weeks to wait for the new Haken album. :woot:



Album is called "Virus". No, they didn't foresee this.
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Anyone know where to find The Boo Radley's Giant Steps? Almost all the videos on YT are blocked in my country and none of my VPNs are letting me through :(
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No, they're all blocked. The YT link didn't even load beyond a black page :shrug:

Edit: The Spotify link did work with the VPN, so that should do it :thumbsup: . It doesn't even come up in the search results when I look for it so yea.
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australia weird, man.
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It finally clicked after like 6 listens. I love 100 gecs now. Super obnoxious and juvenile but I appreciate how absurdist it is

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Now done with the 90s! By far this is the weakest decade for music. Both times I've done this chronological thing, the 90s has been the hardest to get through. The lists I've been working on this time had way too much IDM/trance/house stuff as if I needed another reason to dislike the 90s. I also am completely bored by the generic indie pop and rock of the decade: it got sooo much better in the 21st century. My 'best finds' are pretty telling...

Best finds from the 90s (that I hadn't listened to before):
Phil Spector - Back to Mono (1958-1969) (1991) 7/10
Various Artists - The Best of the Girl Groups Volume 1 (1990) 7/10
Various Artists - The Sun Records Collection (1994) 7/10
The Olivia Tremor Control - Music From the Unrealized Film Script, Dusk at Cubist Castle (1996) 7/10
Various Artists - Nuggets: Original Artyfacts From the First Psychedelic Era 1965-1968 (1972) 8/10

Other things I've liked since the last time:
Atmosphere - You Can't Imagine How Much Fun We're Having (2005) 7/10
Julee Cruise - Floating Into the Night (1989) 7/10
Lemon Demon - Spirit Phone (2016) 7/10
増田順一 [Junichi Masuda], 一之瀬剛 [Go Ichinose] & 佐藤仁美 [Hitomi Sato] - Nintendo DS Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Super Music Collection (2006) 7/10
Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi (1998) 7/10

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1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (2013 edition): 930/1001
Rolling Stones' Top 500 Albums of All Time (2012): 475/500
Pitchfork 1960s: 200/200
Pitchfork 1970s: 100/100
Pitchfork 1980s: 100/100
Pitchfork 1990s: 100/100
Pitchfork 2000s: 57/200
Pitchfork 2010s: 30/200
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The Caretaker's Everywhere at the End of Time is starting to gain traction on the internet, especially YouTube. Soon it will be considered the most disturbing album ever made, and it deserves that.
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OMG THEY'RE BACK

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joachimt wrote: May 24th, 2020, 12:11 pm Less than two weeks to wait for the new Haken album. :woot:



Album is called "Virus". No, they didn't foresee this.
After several delays due to some virus, the album Virus has finally been released. Just got my copy. :)
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Pretentious Hipster wrote: July 28th, 2020, 11:07 pm The Caretaker's Everywhere at the End of Time is starting to gain traction on the internet, especially YouTube. Soon it will be considered the most disturbing album ever made, and it deserves that.
Look what Viper did:
I’m to remember every man I've seen fall into a plate of spaghetti???

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I couldn't find the music video thread so here we go.. Decided to watch the music videos that have been nominated for TSZDT. I've never been a big music video fan because they are mostly just scantily clad women making pouty faces and sexy poses and I'm generally not a fan of 'horror' music but there was actually some interesting stuff here. I hadn't heard of almost all of the songs, and hadn't seen any of the videos before. These were a few of my favourites:
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Skrillex: First of the Year Equinox (2011) Really interesting mix of audio and visual, interesting ideas of abuse. My favourite of the lot


Wolf Alice: You're a Germ (2015) Just good fun. Some gore.


Bat for Lashes: What's a Girl to Do? (2007) Eerie and oddly entrancing, nice song too


Health: We are Water (2010) Kind of haunting, I like the way they use the screams. Some gore.


The Horrors: Sheena Is a Parasite (2006) Kinda cool and off-kilter
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I just came across this on RYM: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/simonken ... nre-table/

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mightysparks wrote: August 19th, 2020, 5:50 am I just came across this on RYM: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/simonken ... nre-table/

Well, I know what my next project is gonna be.
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Now done with the 2000s. I found this decade to be pretty varied in that there were lots of different genres, subgenres, popularities etc, and though I didn't really like a lot, I was surprised that I liked as many as I did (and there were many albums that I didn't care for as a whole, but liked a song or two). The later years definitely had the better stuff, with a lot more dream/sunshine/indie pop coming in. The majority of albums were from the Pitchfork 2000s list which is kind of an eclectic mix but some of their choices are just strange. I finished the last few albums on the Rolling Stones' Top 500 Albums list so now there's just a handful of albums left on '1001' and the rest are Pitchfork 2010s.

Best finds from the 00s (that I hadn't listened to before):
Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet (2001) 7/10 (did not expect to like this at all)
The Supremes - Anthology (III) (2001) 7/10
ABBA - The Definitive Collection (2001) 8/10
Sam Cooke - Portrait of a Legend: 1951-1964 (2003) 7/10
Green Day - American Idiot (2004) 8/10 (had listened to this in 2005, but needed a fresh listen)
Jay Reatard - Blood Visions (2006) 7/10 (also did not expect to like this at all based on the guy's name and the stupid album cover)
Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit (2006) 7/10 (only Belle and Sebastian album I've liked at all)
TTA - A New Chance (2007) 7/10
Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours (2008) 7/10

Other things I've liked since the last time:
Pierre Hantaï - Variations Goldberg BWV 988 (2003) 7/10

Current stats:
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (2013 edition): 992/1001
Rolling Stones' Top 500 Albums of All Time (2012): 500/500
Pitchfork 1960s: 200/200
Pitchfork 1970s: 100/100
Pitchfork 1980s: 100/100
Pitchfork 1990s: 100/100
Pitchfork 2000s: 200/200
Pitchfork 2010s: 35/200

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mightysparks wrote: August 21st, 2020, 1:02 pm Now done with the 2000s. I found this decade to be pretty varied in that there were lots of different genres, subgenres, popularities etc,
I think it's generally considered the decade were many classic genre boundaries/divides were broken down, leaving space for many cross-overs. Something like rock/electronic was pretty much sacrilege during most of the 90s (which doesn't mean it didn't exist), but it became pretty normal in the 00s.
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Onderhond wrote: August 21st, 2020, 1:17 pm
mightysparks wrote: August 21st, 2020, 1:02 pm Now done with the 2000s. I found this decade to be pretty varied in that there were lots of different genres, subgenres, popularities etc,
I think it's generally considered the decade were many classic genre boundaries/divides were broken down, leaving space for many cross-overs. Something like rock/electronic was pretty much sacrilege during most of the 90s (which doesn't mean it didn't exist), but it became pretty normal in the 00s.
It's interesting because I stopped listening to the radio in 2003 and have completely ignored musical pop culture since so it wasn't really a decade I was expecting much from, and the RYM list had a pretty lame selection from the 2000s. Most of the stuff that I liked was from artists I'd never heard of before, and the stuff that sucked was often the popular stuff on the radio at the time (the Justin Timberlake album :yucky: ), so it was nice getting to explore the decade from another perspective another decade later. But yea it was definitely the most interesting and varied decade I've listened through so far. The 2010s Pitchfork list seems a bit weird, there's like 3 Beyonce albums :/ so idk how this one's going to go.
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It was also the era dominated by Napster and internet availability of music, so it's no surprise the range got a bit broader.
The 10s might converge back onto more popular stuff because the overabundance of choice.

I haven't cared about pop music for a good 20 years though, so I'm just going on a limb here.
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Jay Reatard is awesome. Blood Visions is one of the catchiest rock albums I've ever heard. Shame he died right as he was moving in new, interesting directions with his music. Happy I got to catch him live a handful of times.
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Yeah, I was surprised. I went into it with extremely low expectations and it was really enjoyable and catchy. I'm pretty obsessed with 'Nightmares' most of all.
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Yeah that and Turning Blue are my two favorites on the album.
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