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Post by AdamH » March 7th, 2013, 2:19 am

I wish lampa & mightysparks would come online as they're the only ones who ever reply about this stuff. :( Stupid Australia and the time difference.

Do you guys agree that Reasonable Man is easily the weakest track on Cherry Tree?

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Post by mightysparks » March 7th, 2013, 3:04 am

I agree; Reasonable Man is, at the moment, by least favourite National song altogether.
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Post by mightysparks » March 7th, 2013, 3:28 am

What's with the hate for Friend of Mine :mw_confused:
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Post by AdamH » March 7th, 2013, 9:27 pm

mightysparks on Mar 6 2013, 08:04:23 PM wrote:I agree; Reasonable Man is, at the moment, by least favourite National song altogether.
It is the only song that I feel like skipping.

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Post by AdamH » March 7th, 2013, 9:55 pm

I noticed this on the High Violet Wikipedia page:
On January 14, 2011, The National were nominated for a Brit Award for 'International Breakthrough Act' alongside Justin Bieber and Bruno Mars, losing out to Justin Bieber on the night
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Post by AdamH » March 8th, 2013, 6:50 pm

I AM GOING TO THE NATIONAL GIG!!!!!

I couldn't resist and ended up asking my cousin about it. There is a rehearsal dinner the night before the wedding and it finishes at 8:30pm. I can go from there to get a train to Toronto and the gig is near the station. As long as I can get the last train back I'll be fine.

THIS IS AMAZING.

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Post by lampadatriste » March 8th, 2013, 7:24 pm

That is great news, I'm happy for you! :cheers:

Reasonable Man is indeed a much weaker song, but its simple melody kind of sticked with me, it's not very demanding. I remember listening to it while falling asleep on a bus drive home on weekends a few times and it worked better that way, like a whisper.

Yes, The National breakthrough in 2011 was definitely a weird event for a band that started in 1999. It's more an insult than an award, really :lol:

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Post by AdamH » March 8th, 2013, 7:25 pm

lampa on Mar 8 2013, 12:24:05 PM wrote:That is great news, I'm happy for you! :cheers:

Reasonable Man is indeed a much weaker song, but its simple melody kind of sticked with me, it's not very demanding. I remember listening to it while falling asleep on a bus drive home on weekends a few times and it worked better that way, like a whisper.

Yes, The National breakthrough in 2011 was definitely a weird event for a band that started in 1999. It's more an insult than an award, really :lol:
If that isn't an insult, then Justin Bieber beating them certainly is!

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Post by brokenface » March 8th, 2013, 7:28 pm

intothewild on Mar 8 2013, 11:50:04 AM wrote:I AM GOING TO THE NATIONAL GIG!!!!!

I couldn't resist and ended up asking my cousin about it. There is a rehearsal dinner the night before the wedding and it finishes at 8:30pm. I can go from there to get a train to Toronto and the gig is near the station. As long as I can get the last train back I'll be fine.

THIS IS AMAZING.
:thumbsup: cool, good for you. would've been a shame to miss it as it coincided so neatly!

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Post by AdamH » March 15th, 2013, 2:29 pm

Fashion Coat is the latest song I like a lot.

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Post by lampadatriste » March 21st, 2013, 3:11 pm

http://pitchfork.com/news/50044-the-nat ... l-find-me/

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The National have announced details of their sixth studio album: Trouble Will Find Me is out on May 20 via 4AD (May 21 in North America). The album was recorded at Clubhouse in Rhinebeck, NY, and was self-produced, with mixing by Craig Silvey, Peter Katis, and Marcus Paquin. That's the artwork above. The album will be released digitally, on CD, 180gm vinyl, and in a limited edition deluxe boxed vinyl set. It follows 2010's High Violet.

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Post by mightysparks » March 21st, 2013, 3:13 pm

Yay
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Post by brokenface » March 21st, 2013, 3:13 pm

I like the cover :thumbsup:

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Post by funkybusiness » March 21st, 2013, 7:12 pm

That cover looks very unlike a National album cover. But whatever, more of The National, yay!

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Post by AdamH » April 5th, 2013, 10:07 pm

Three songs from The National's new album: Berlin gig

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Post by AdamH » April 5th, 2013, 10:16 pm

Another one for the new album:


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Post by funkybusiness » April 8th, 2013, 12:27 pm

Listened to it twice. Killer, yo. Very interesting structure. I like how you keep waiting for it to switch to major chord and keeping waiting and keep waiting and then it happens and it's completely buried and the vocal arrangement hides it as well. Really solid. Maybe the vocal track stacking around 2:05-2:25 isn't ideal, but whatever.

Oh! Only Living Boy in New York. That's what it reminds me of.

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Post by brokenface » April 8th, 2013, 1:26 pm

all you National fans should listen to Tindersticks if you haven't before.


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Post by mightysparks » April 9th, 2013, 3:29 am

The other songs posted haven't done too much for me, but I do quite like Demons.
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Post by AdamH » April 9th, 2013, 3:42 am

It is harder to tell with live versions. I'll judge then on the final versions. I like Demons too. Listened to it a few times already.

Loving music at the moment. Got bored of a lot of the stuff I used to listen and been getting into a lot of new bands.

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Post by mightysparks » April 9th, 2013, 3:44 am

Haven't been listening to much lately because I'm either working or playing video games :P I find it too hard to get into new bands, because as I've said before, I rarely like more than 1-2 songs from a band. I hate trying to find new music, but I always love it when I do.
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Post by AdamH » April 9th, 2013, 4:00 am

Listening to tindersticks just now. Interesting. Never heard them before.

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Post by funkybusiness » April 9th, 2013, 4:01 am

They did the scores for most of Claire Denis' films. There's a complete Denis/Tindersticks set on KG if you're interested.

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Post by AdamH » April 9th, 2013, 4:04 am

Cool, haven't actually seen any Claire Denis films. No access to KG for a few weeks but I'll check it out when I can.

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Post by Chilton » May 25th, 2013, 12:56 am

Anyone heard the new album yet?

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Post by lampadatriste » June 3rd, 2013, 5:59 pm

Yep. Most of my friends who are old fans disliked it at first, but it conquered them after a few listens. I myself wasn't either impressed or repulsed initially. But it is a grower. I like it as much as High Violet now. Some songs are stuck in my head and I feel like listening to it almost everyday. It's as much as I can ask from The National now. The first two songs are maybe the weaker, less memorable ones. But the whole album is pretty even from then on.
Great artwork too.

That Tindersticks comparison is a classic one.
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Post by mightysparks » June 3rd, 2013, 6:01 pm

I listened to it a few weeks ago and thought it was meh. Demons is the only song I like. Will try it again in a few months or something.
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Post by lampadatriste » June 10th, 2013, 11:49 pm

http://www.npr.org/event/music/19038270 ... sk-concert

Some of the best ones from Trouble Will Find Me live and accoustic

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Post by mightysparks » June 10th, 2013, 11:50 pm

Can't wait to see them live. The performance I bought a ticket for sold out not long after I bought it. Fecking [Mr] November hurry up.
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Post by AdamH » June 11th, 2013, 12:00 am

Haven't had a chance to listen to the album over here at all. Planning to go see them live on Friday.

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Post by AdamH » August 17th, 2013, 3:35 pm

Been listening to The National quite a bit again recently. Going to start listening to Trouble Will Find Me more. Haven't listened to it many times yet. Good thing about it is it reminds me of being in Canada as that's where I heard the songs from the album for the first time. Always like it when you have a positive memory to associate with songs.

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Post by mightysparks » August 17th, 2013, 3:37 pm

I don't really like the new album :( meh. Looking forward to seeing them in November. Concerts here are way more awesome than the stingy stuff we get in Perth.
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Post by AdamH » August 17th, 2013, 3:39 pm

mightysparks on Aug 17 2013, 09:37:36 AM wrote:I don't really like the new album :( meh. Looking forward to seeing them in November. Concerts here are way more awesome than the stingy stuff we get in Perth.
What's your current ranking for the albums?

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Post by mightysparks » August 17th, 2013, 3:44 pm

Whatever I had on the previous page with Trouble Will Find Me near the bottom (my phone won't let me copy it). I've been enjoying High Violet quite a bit recently though, it depends on my mood I think whether I'd prefer it or Alligator, though I think Alligator is still the better album.
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Post by mightysparks » October 31st, 2013, 12:12 pm

In preparation for the concert in a couple weeks, I just listened to all the albums again. Love High Violet more every time I listen to it. Also liked Cherry Tree a little more than last time, though I still don't like Reasonable Man, which is easily their worst.

Album ranking is more or less the same:
1. Alligator (2005)
2. High Violet (2010)
3. Boxer (2007)
4. The Virginia EP (2008)
5. The National (2001)
6. Cherry Tree EP (2004)
7. Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers (2003)
8. Trouble Will Find Me (2013)

The first 30 songs stay about the same, but the ranking for the rest changes every time I listen:
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1. Lemonworld
2. Mr November
3. All the Wine
4. Mistaken for Strangers
5. Karen
6. Terrible Love
7. Anyone's Ghost
8. Apartment Story
9. Blank Slate
10. Racing Like a Pro
11. Fake Empire
12. Sorrow
13. Forever After Days
14. Secret Meeting
15. Baby, We'll Be Fine
16. About Today
17. Santa Clara
18. Friend of Mine
19. Son
20. Cold Girl Fever
21. Rest of Years
22. Demons
23. Bloodbuzz Ohio
24. Conversation 16
25. Daughters Of The Soho Riots
26. Trophy Wife
27. Sugar Wife
28. Watching You Well
29. Abel
30. Slipping Husband
31. Pay For Me
32. Bitters & Absolut
33. England
34. Wake Up Your Saints
35. Anna Freud
36. Afraid of Everyone
37. 90-Mile Water Wall
38. All Dolled-Up In Straps
39. Cherry Tree
40. Lit Up
41. Slow Show
42. Squalor Victoria
43. Looking for Astronauts
44. Little Faith
45. Ada
46. Vanderlyle Crybaby Geeks
47. Pink Rabbits
48. Murder Me Rachael
49. John's Star
50. Lucky You
51. American Mary
52. Fashion Coat
53. Patterns of Fairytales
54. The Geese of Beverly Road
55. You Were a Kindness
56. Humiliation
57. Runaway
58. Brainy
59. Start a War
60. You've Done It Again, Virginia
61. Graceless
62. Fireproof
63. Sea of Love
64. I Should Live in Salt
65. Slipped
66. Don't Swallow the Cap
67. Gospel
68. Guest Room
69. Heavenfaced
70. This Is the Last Time
71. I Need My Girl
72. City Middle
73. Available
74. Tall Saint
75. Val Jester
76. Walk Off
77. Sin-Eaters
78. Without Permission
79. Beautiful Head
80. Green Gloves
81. The Perfect Song
82. Thirsty
83. It Never Happened
84. Wasp Nest
85. Mansion on the Hill
86. Hard to Find
87. Cardinal Song
88. 29 Years
89. Theory of the Crows
90. A Reasonable Man (I Don't Mind)
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Post by AdamH » November 2nd, 2013, 8:27 pm

I love Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers now.

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » November 2nd, 2013, 10:59 pm

Apparently, Bryce Dessner taught music as an adjunct at my work in the early days of the band, when several of the band members played locally but kept their day jobs. I don't remember him, though.
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Post by funkybusiness » November 8th, 2013, 1:42 am

https://soundcloud.com/universalrepubli ... the-hunger

Bottom tier National. Two thumbs down.

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Post by Armoreska » November 9th, 2013, 3:24 pm

Cherry Tree was freeleech on What, so I had to grab it. The 2nd song has the line from AdamH's sig.
I don't particularly care about the music though :(
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