Trump v. Biden: A Septagenarian Scoundrel Skirmish for the Ages

[Pretentious Hipster]

I live in the deep south and I have never seen anyone as redneck as the dude in that photo.

[Armoreska]

haha yes elections are rigged, please boycott any other election from now on!

[Lammetje]

American Citizens that are legally registered voters received ballots irregardless of whether they themselves requested such a ballot in many US states (due to Covid-19). This is fraudulent and amounts to systemic election fraud. Let me explain: This artificially increased voter-turnout and actively encouraged participating in free and fair elections. This is the ugly truth behind Biden magically receiving so many votes. Under normal healthy conditions, fewer people would have participated and unworthy voters would have been surgically removed in adequate numbers. Thus, Trump would have won re-election comfortably. #StopTheSteal

[xianjiro]

and yet still more ...

Former Overstock.com CEO claims to have an army of ‘hackers and cyber sleuths’ that can prove Trump won reelection

I no longer expect anything like sanity to return to public, political discourse in my lifetime. It's ... just ... IDK!

[xianjiro]

look who's got a halo now

[3eyes]

Yeah, I saw that and reacted the same way, xian.

[xianjiro]

sort of reminds me of a modern day version of something like this

[Dolwphin]

Old Man Yells at Cloud!

[Armoreska]

Hmm maybe this one should be in Wikipedia's US Presidential Election Records article. Good one, DJ

[xianjiro]

I move that the winner of Ohio and Florida be called Superdude for Life! Or we could make him president but allow the other states and territories to actually have a say.

BTW, Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, his hero Jackson, Van Buren, and Harrison became president WITHOUT bloody Florida (which didn't get statehood until 1845).

Huh, in 1848 Ohio went for Cass, Florida for (President) Taylor; in 1856, Ohio went Fremont, Florida to (President) Buchanan; and you'll be flaggergastedly gobsmacked up-side the head to read that in 1860 Ohio went for (President) LIncoln, while the treasonous rebels tRump worships went for Breckinridge. Florida was too busy elsewhere to vote in 1864. In 1880 Ohio went for (President) Garfield, Florida for Hancock; in 1884 Ohio went for Blaine while Florida voted for (President) Cleveland; in 1888 Ohio for (President) Harrison, Florida for (no longer President) Cleveland; in 1892 all but one Ohio vote went for (so to be ex President) Harrison while Florida voted for (again President) Cleveland; in 1896 Ohio went for (President) McKinley, Florida for Bryan; in 1900 Ohio went for (President) McKinley, Florida for Bryan; in 1904 Ohio for (President) Roosevelt, Florida for Parker (not Peter); in 1908 Ohio for (President) Taft, Florida for Bryan; in 1920 Ohio for (President) Harding, Florida for Cox; in 1924 Ohio for (President) Coolidge, Florida for Davis; in 1944 Ohio for Dewey, Florida for (still President) Roosevelt; and in 1992 Ohio went for (President) Clinton with a dick, Florida for (former President) Bush

Trump's correct in 1852, 1868, 1872, 1876, 1912, 1916, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1940, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2016

So if my math's correct - Trump is right half of the time though recent trends do favour his position. But what a dope to say something so easily disproven.

[Armoreska]

That's some digging. But should we harass the mentally challenged like this?

[xianjiro]

that's just it, it takes almost no effort to disprove the statement "no candidate has ever"

[Onderhond]

that's just it, it takes almost no effort to disprove the statement "no candidate has ever"

Maybe the dope is the one who thinks disproving it actually matters

[RogerTheMovieManiac88]

But has a candidate ever won BOTH Florida and Ohio, only to lose the election?

Oh, I see Nixon did!

[xianjiro]

But has a candidate ever won BOTH Florida and Ohio, only to lose the election?

Oh, I see Nixon did!

Does that mean you checked them all, or just 1960?

[weirdboy]

So if my math's correct - Trump is right half of the time though recent trends do favour his position. But what a dope to say something so easily disproven.

Trump keeps repeating falsehoods because it is exhausting to constantly disprove them. Eventually the person who repeats their position the most becomes the accepted truth after a generation.

[RogerTheMovieManiac88]

But has a candidate ever won BOTH Florida and Ohio, only to lose the election?

Oh, I see Nixon did!

Does that mean you checked them all, or just 1960?

I couldn't be bothered to check them all, xianjiro! That's why I posted what I did, and I had a quick look around afterwards (hence the editing in for 1960). I'd be interested to know whether anyone else throughout US history has won the two states in a losing bid for the Presidency.

[Armoreska]

I checked. Just Nixon and Trump.

[xianjiro]

So if my math's correct - Trump is right half of the time though recent trends do favour his position. But what a dope to say something so easily disproven.

Trump keeps repeating falsehoods because it is exhausting to constantly disprove them. Eventually the person who repeats their position the most becomes the accepted truth after a generation.

Wonder if W and Cheney will go to their graves - I know Saddam had WMDs, we just haven't found 'em yet ...

But I've said it before, I know that Trump believes the truth is whatever he says it is and people will believe him just because he said it. Doesn't help that the Grand Ole Party of Sycophants keeps telling the Emperor just how beautiful his new clothes are to behold.

And now he's gone and recognized Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara to get another one of his Abraham Accords. And sell weapons to the UAE.

[xianjiro]

But has a candidate ever won BOTH Florida and Ohio, only to lose the election?

Oh, I see Nixon did!

Does that mean you checked them all, or just 1960?

I couldn't be bothered to check them all, xianjiro! That's why I posted what I did, and I had a quick look around afterwards (hence the editing in for 1960). I'd be interested to know whether anyone else throughout US history has won the two states in a losing bid for the Presidency.

Besides the split votes, I think there might have one or two more races in the middle of the last century where winning Ohio and Florida didn't give the presidency. I checked the likely time frame and that didn't hold out. But one other thing, it doesn't come as any surprise when so many elections weren't even close: Yeah, sure, Reagan took both states to rocket to his wins and generally both Roosevelts didn't have such nail biters. Clinton, Obama and others. It's not such a big deal getting those two states when you 75% or more of states, popular vote, etc.

Actually Ohio has been on the winning side more often than not: that's been known for some time, but it's nothing like a lock or requirement for the win.

[Knaldskalle]

Only candidates who win all 50 states are legitimate winners. Everything else is fraud. #StopTheSteal

[Dolwphin]

THE MOST EPIC ELECTORAL COLLEGE MAP

[Dolwphin]

The Electoral College Officially Elects Joe Biden to serve as the 46th President of the United States. 0 faithless electors. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell officially acknowledges Biden as President-Elect of the United States. That's all folks!

[xianjiro]

not exactly - Congress still has to sign off on the deal and he-that-should-concede has acolytes and sycophants happy to keep up the charade. It's not over until ... I'd like to think when Biden takes the oath, but honestly, it won't be over until he-that-can't-concede is tweeting from a tomb

[Armoreska]

_{(i was just browsing the map and noticed that)}A few of the positions have not even been called yet. There are 2 districts where the right(most) are leading by literally a handful of votes. Ouch! Someone failed to make their gramma vote.