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Got it?

Yeah, I got it and feel HORRIBLE.
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Yes, I had it but have recovered.
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I think I had it, but not sure.
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Post by matthewscott8 » March 23rd, 2020, 2:01 pm

joachimt wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 1:01 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 12:53 pm
My brother's best friend threw a party Saturday before last, i.e. last socialisation before lockdown. He had a fever for an hour the day before but thought nothing of it. He had the party and then they all went out clubbing. Literally everyone at the party now has COVID-19. He knows 10 people he is certain he gave SARS-2 to. He reports back that the current phase is like having a Shetland Pony stood on your chest. He's late 20s.
What an asshole!
Was your brother at the party? Did you see your brother recently?
no and no. He was invited but he turned it down. Me and my bro have both been self isolating. Apart from secluded walks for reason of mental and physical health.

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Post by matthewscott8 » March 23rd, 2020, 2:03 pm

peeptoad wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 1:46 pm
I guess one positive is that I with more free time I had a chance to work on my favorites list for like 4 hours straight yesterday...
the feel is real :lol: . Been sorting lists too. Also sorting hard drive too, giving all the movie files good names, matching them withs subs, sorting the folders for them. This period gonna be sooo good for film watching.

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » March 23rd, 2020, 2:08 pm

I thought ditching movies for video games might be silly but it's the best decision I'vr made for this. It doesn't affect my personal life at all now cause I was playing games anyways

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Post by sol » March 23rd, 2020, 2:17 pm

Oh yeah, feels totally weird how everybody's film watching is going up lately (look at the Challenge threads taking off!) but I have progress at my normal rate since we have to remain open during the pandemic, health risks and all.
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Post by joachimt » March 23rd, 2020, 2:48 pm

sol wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 2:17 pm
Oh yeah, feels totally weird how everybody's film watching is going up lately (look at the Challenge threads taking off!) but I have progress at my normal rate since we have to remain open during the pandemic, health risks and all.
Film watching going up or down totally depends on your job. For some people work gets more hectic, for others it slows down. I don't look at the challenges, but I can imagine some people watching movies all day now. Normally Monday is my day off and my kids would be at school for a large part of the day. I often watch one or two movies during that time. Now I have loads of work to do on my day off, my wife is working in the living room and I have to assist my kids with their school tasks (not much though, because they are very sweet disciplined smart kids, so they do most things without help). Last week I could squeeze in some watching in the evening, but certainly not during the day.
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Post by sol » March 23rd, 2020, 3:08 pm

joachimt wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 2:48 pm
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March 23rd, 2020, 2:17 pm
Oh yeah, feels totally weird how everybody's film watching is going up lately (look at the Challenge threads taking off!) but I have progress at my normal rate since we have to remain open during the pandemic, health risks and all.
Film watching going up or down totally depends on your job. For some people work gets more hectic, for others it slows down.
That's true, I guess, and I certainly don't know what will happen if schools get shut here and how much workload I might then have. It would certainly be something, but without travel time I would have more free hours in the day - though travel has actually not been that bad over the last few days with many folks now working from home (commute times are at about 70% of what they were two weeks ago).
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Post by peeptoad » March 23rd, 2020, 3:14 pm

Yeah, regarding the commute I automatically pick up an extra 4 hrs of time per day not having to go in.
If this keeps up I have a feeling thst my work days will fluctuate. Thurs-Fri last week I was very busy, today so far, less so though I am still kind of on call.
If this becomes long term I might actually pursue another certification or credential or something in my field.

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Post by albajos » March 23rd, 2020, 4:08 pm

Famous coviders

National Leaders
Prince Albert II of Monaco
Massoumeh Ebtekar, Vice President, Iran

Government
Bento Albuquerque, Mines and Energy Minister, Brazil
Alpha Barry, Foreign Minister, Burkina Faso
Peter Dutton, Minister of Home Affairs, Australia
Oumarou Idani, Minister of Mines, Burkina Faso
Torbjørn Røe Isaksen, Minister of Labour and Social Inclusion, Norway
Irene Montero, Minister of Equality, Spain
Stanislas Ouaro, Minister of Education, Burkina Faso
Franck Riester, Minister of Culture, France
Simeon Sawadogo, Minister of Interior, Burkina Faso
Michael Wos, Minister of Environment, Poland

Parliament
Rand Paul, senator USA

First Ladies
Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, Canada
Begona Gomez, Spain

Abolished monarchy
Archduke of Austria Karl von Habsburg

Celebrities
Film & TV
Idris Elba
Tom Hanks
Kristofer Hivju
Daniel Dae Kim
Olga Kurylenko
Linda Lusardi
Debi Mazar
Rita Wilson

Sport
Mikel Arteta, manager Arsenal
Blaise Matuidi, player Juventus
Callum Hudson-Odoi, player Chelsea
Daniele Rugani, player Juventus

Rudy Gobert, player Utah Jazz
Donovan Mitchellk, player Utah Jazz
Christian Wood, player Detroit Piston

Fernando Gaviria, cyclist
Dmitry Strakhov, cyclist

Author
Luis Sepulveda, Chile

Music
David Bryan
Manu Dibango
Placido Domingo

Inmates
Harvey Weinstein

Way too many to mention them all. Some calculations say that 50% might get it, so this list will be extremely long if that happens. The good thing is that when famous people get sick, they will fund research and equipment.
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Post by Armoreska » March 23rd, 2020, 4:38 pm

No official cases in my city yet. Anyone else's still at 0?

Still, I only go out at night to the 24/7.

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is ... rus-2020-3
The UK has reconsidered a plan to achieve herd immunity and instead is attempting disease suppression through other measures like social isolation and possible self-quarantine for the highest risk individuals.

Netherlands' Rutte also mentioned the possibility of herd immunity, which was immediately met with backlash from experts who say deliberately exposing as many people to the virus to build an immune population is not a good idea.
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Post by Tim2460 » March 23rd, 2020, 4:42 pm

hmmm Was just being said i'll work just @50% for the rest of the week.
A law just passed in france where Companies could force the rescheduling of our comming hollidays for up to 6 Days...
I do hope we won't reach that ...

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Post by Straka » March 23rd, 2020, 4:46 pm

Armoreska wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 4:38 pm
Netherlands' Rutte also mentioned the possibility of herd immunity, which was immediately met with backlash from experts who say deliberately exposing as many people to the virus to build an immune population is not a good idea.
We do have herds of people still out, it is insane. National parks and beaches are having peak days for this time of year.

On a different note:
This morning I saw two guys almost getting into a fight over an escalating road rage incident. In an attempt to defuse the situation I yelled that they should keep 1.5 meter apart and it actually worked.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » March 23rd, 2020, 5:07 pm

Armoreska wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 4:38 pm


Netherlands' Rutte also mentioned the possibility of herd immunity, which was immediately met with backlash from experts who say deliberately exposing as many people to the virus to build an immune population is not a good idea.
This was misunderstood (also because it wasn't well explained by Rutte); it was never the Dutch strategy to expose as much people as possible to get herd immunity as quick as possible. Herd immunity is a (possible) positive side-effect from the self-isolation strategy.

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » March 23rd, 2020, 6:03 pm

Ontario is under a lockdown now. Only essential services will remain open.

I seriously can't fucking do this anymore. The lease for my partner's house ends at June 1, and we gotta move in together asap because of the ostracizing and abandonment for racial reasons is driving my partner and the roommate to talk about suicide pacts.

I might lose my job because of this. I assume a retirement home is an essential service, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before they start using disposable plates and utensils. I don't know if I'll get coverage because I only work a few hours a week. My partner will lose their job most likely too and will have to go on EI which is 60% of your income.

What if movers are not deemed essential? How the hell are we gonna move out? I assume real estate will be essential since it's shelter. Like we might actually be fucked. Mine or their parents are not an option because both options are bigots, and they won't let a trans woman live in either place.

Their lives are literally on the line for this, and it's all because of a fucking political agenda that is idiotic, and frankly racist. This is starting to make me hate the left...

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Post by xianjiro » March 23rd, 2020, 7:20 pm

Well, I'm having trouble finding a way forward given the daily increases and now talk of a 'third wave" in East Asia. Imagine, in a couple weeks/months when Italians think they've turned a corner and the third wave comes in as people start moving about again. Clearly the only way to deal with this is through allowing a slow spread through healthy populations until we've got a vaccine but that's mid-to-late next year. If only 1% of Chinese people have been exposed and the virus is still wild, it's only a matter of time before it finds it's way back to those other 99% (third wave, maybe more).

It really feels like the industrialized nations dropped the ball on this. We should have been shutting down international travel and started social distancing in January. Now is too late though maybe some countries will manage to escape. Uzbekistan or Chad or some island nation that closed it's border two months ago? IDK, I'm having trouble seeing how this plays out as a win for anyone who doesn't get a huge cash bailout. I sort of feel like this must have been what it felt like to be alive in Sep/Oct of 1929.

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Post by AdamH » March 23rd, 2020, 9:27 pm

It's probably nothing but I'm getting worse. Sore throat started on around Wednesday with some coughing. Stomach ache started yesterday and ache under ribs (where lungs are I guess). Today I've been getting really bad headaches (I never get them). Ache under ribs is back again too.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 23rd, 2020, 9:33 pm

That's not "probably nothing" at all. You'll probably be ok, but it's not nothing. Your post made me realize that, for all the talk about social distancing and cleaning and everything else there's very little guidance about what to do if you're sick. The advice basically seems to be "stay home get better only call if it feels life threatening." Makes it obvious that there's a huge lack of testing and under-reporting of real case numbers.
Edit: I guess in the UK you're also encouraged to fill out a web questionnaire to tell you that. https://111.nhs.uk/covid-19/

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Post by TraverseTown » March 23rd, 2020, 9:36 pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/co ... s_at_home/

Here's a reddit thread from a nurse that offers so options for self-care and caring for others in case you get sick. Take it with a grain of salt because it's not remotely an official endorsement or directive, but it generally seems helpful and informed.

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Post by AdamH » March 23rd, 2020, 9:45 pm

Maybe we will get more posts now that there's a pandemic and everyone is inside. :circle:

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » March 23rd, 2020, 10:22 pm

An old coworker just posted on his Facebook that cops are stopping people on the street here to question them.

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Post by outdoorcats » March 23rd, 2020, 10:33 pm

Philadelphia has issued a stay at home order.

@albajos - one you should add to that list under the sports tab is Kevin Durant.

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Post by St. Gloede » March 23rd, 2020, 10:56 pm

Fines for people breaking quarantine went from €1,000 to €3,000 to €10,000 here. People kept breaking it. One guy was caught 5 times ...

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » March 23rd, 2020, 10:59 pm

Anxiety is the worst in this regard because if questioned I'm going to look very nervous and uneasy and as a result they'll think I'm lying.

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Post by St. Gloede » March 23rd, 2020, 11:01 pm

I bring my ID with me every time I go out (not often) but that should be the end of the conversation (presuming they have a register, and that that is all they are checking for).

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Post by OldAle1 » March 23rd, 2020, 11:09 pm

Went out for groceries today - first time I'd been out, apart from walks in my area, in 10 days. Definitely fewer cars on the road, but not as desolate as I'd expected. Traffic seemed to be moving faster too - both because there is less of it, and people probably figure that cops have more important shit to do. Store was well-stocked apart from TP (some, not much) and sanitizers (nil); probably a few other things missing, I dunno - there were a few small gaps in produce, but nothing I typically buy was absent, and there were hardly any eggs - I saw a report not long ago about a national egg shortage. Not many customers and the store has a line about 6 feet from the beginning of the checkout line which you're supposed to wait behind, a good thing, BUT I had to get closer to the cashier than that, and though she had gloves, she had no facemask. Otherwise I don't think I got near anybody. Drove by a few places that were open 10 days ago, shuttered now, but a liquor store seemed to be doing hopping business, no surprise; I guess Illinois still considers that an "essential" business.

Really hard to fight off depression right now. Loneliness seems everlasting, as I'm sure it does to a few others out there.

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Post by mightysparks » March 23rd, 2020, 11:18 pm

My dad works in a liquor store and is pissed that it's considered essential. Especially when they're telling everyone not to drink or smoke..

Even I'm getting pretty down by all this, despite loving staying at home. It's really hard to focus on uni because it all seems pointless, it's hard to get motivated to write all these essays which just don't seem to matter at all right now. I have two due at the of the week and I haven't even started. My dog is also probably getting put down today and I just feel too depressed to do anything.
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Post by St. Gloede » March 23rd, 2020, 11:27 pm

If you want to change your perspective slightly, essays and knowledge rarely matter more than in times of self-contemplation. This is the time to acquire knowledge and pursue all the things you can within 4 walls that you feel is worthwhile.

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » March 23rd, 2020, 11:32 pm

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Post by TraverseTown » March 23rd, 2020, 11:54 pm

Trump already floating the idea of opening the US back up as soon as next week.... We're so so fucked, I'm so terrified.


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Post by OldAle1 » March 24th, 2020, 12:55 am

I probably said it before - long before this current crisis - but every day it becomes more apparent; it's not even possible to conceive of a worse person to have this job right now. Glad I did my shopping today, have the feeling I might not go out again for a long time.


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Post by TraverseTown » March 24th, 2020, 3:10 am

Is there any sort of follow-up or other media coverage about this article from anyone besides NY Post and Taiwan News, someone with more of a reputation? This is more than a month old.

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Post by xianjiro » March 24th, 2020, 3:13 am

AdamH wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 9:27 pm
It's probably nothing but I'm getting worse. Sore throat started on around Wednesday with some coughing. Stomach ache started yesterday and ache under ribs (where lungs are I guess). Today I've been getting really bad headaches (I never get them). Ache under ribs is back again too.
As Peaceful said, it's not nothing. I hope you followed the link he provided. While I think you're trying to say "let's not panic" (which is good), even if you've got something like strep throat, another viral illness, or even a bacterial infection, just because it's not Covid-19 doesn't mean you get to ignore it.

Please take care and get well ASAP!

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 24th, 2020, 3:18 am

TraverseTown wrote:
March 24th, 2020, 3:10 am
Is there any sort of follow-up or other media coverage about this article from anyone besides NY Post and Taiwan News, someone with more of a reputation? This is more than a month old.
It's BS disinformation. I suppose it's possible that the handful of people who do get reinfected are people with broken immune systems and that for them a reinfection will be deadlier, but there would be more reports of reinfections by now if it was even remotely common. All the articles about reinfections refer to the same 2 or 3 cases that could easily be testing errors.

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Post by xianjiro » March 24th, 2020, 3:28 am

So, we have joined the list of states with a "stay at home" order but multiple jurisdictions have said they won't be asking cops to enforce it nor do they plan to send uniforms to answer complaints (ie: DON'T call 911 about your neighbor's dinner party). It does have baby teeth though - class C misdemeanor with the possibility of 30 days in jail/$1200 fine but since courts are basically non-functional... And now the police are saying they are only arresting violent offenders because they're worried about the virus getting loose inside the jails. Oy vey!

I hear folks writing about feeling depressed and finding difficulty being motivated. I'll echo St. G and say, use this time for yourself, however that makes sense for you. While one might still have assignments or reports due - and they might seem pointless given the unknown nature of the future - there are two things working in our favor: 1) The future is always an unknown and we just believe we are in control, working towards this or that goal. and 2) Social distancing (SD) means it's a lot more difficult for other's to make demands of you, especially if you're in your own home. So you can prioritize what matters most in your life.

And remember that aphorism - whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger. I don't mention this lightly because I know many of us are scared about what will happen, but I encourage everyone to find something you care about and to continue moving forward.

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Post by xianjiro » March 24th, 2020, 7:01 am

Oh, just your typical "left-wing media bias" pushing commie views on unwitting Americans as usual. ^ :rolleyes:

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Post by matthewscott8 » March 24th, 2020, 7:40 am

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I have a colleague who got angry with me yesterday, as opposed to January, for saying it was OK to lock people down, and OK to "bag" someone whose out and about at the moment with a termperature and non-cooperative. Individualism is gonna die hard.

Chinese are back out and about living their lives, but there is a massive temperature testing policy. If you go to a restaurants you get your temperature taken before you can go in and order food. They have managed to stop a re-outbreak. You'll be temperature checked about 10 times a day if you're out and about.

When reality changes ideologies have to change. Noone has the right to start a re-outbreak, just like no-one has the right to spray a machine gun into a crowd.

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Post by kingink » March 24th, 2020, 9:46 am

Here in Greece we have a complete nation-wide lockdown. We have to carry a signed form when going out explainning the reasons for being out and stating our adress and our destination. There is a 150 euro fine for people not having the form or in case their location is not justified properly.
There is also a fine of 5.000 euros for people who break the quarantine that was imposed to them because of a trip they had or being in contact with infected people. And also of course criminal prosecution with possible jail time.
The most scary part though for me is the fact that as a self-empoyed/freelancer I probably won't have any income for the whole time that this lockdown lasts. Shit... Oh well... Let's see how much it lasts. Stay safe guys!

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