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given the rate it's going, soon it will be easier to tell us which movies to watch because they are 'abuser free'

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Heh. So I got one of those "Top lists update" messages on ICM. Glancing through it, blah blah blah, some minor changes at the bottom of the lists, totally expected - WAIT - "American Beauty" fell off the Romance list from #7? WFT?!?

About 2 minutes later, it dawned on me - "Oh... that's why."
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maxwelldeux on Dec 18 2017, 01:41:14 AM wrote:Heh. So I got one of those "Top lists update" messages on ICM. Glancing through it, blah blah blah, some minor changes at the bottom of the lists, totally expected - WAIT - "American Beauty" fell off the Romance list from #7? WFT?!?

About 2 minutes later, it dawned on me - "Oh... that's why."
Man, I hadn't even thought of that movie. It's freaking creepy now :/
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Hunziker on Dec 18 2017, 10:31:14 AM wrote:
maxwelldeux on Dec 18 2017, 01:41:14 AM wrote:Heh. So I got one of those "Top lists update" messages on ICM. Glancing through it, blah blah blah, some minor changes at the bottom of the lists, totally expected - WAIT - "American Beauty" fell off the Romance list from #7? WFT?!?

About 2 minutes later, it dawned on me - "Oh... that's why."
Man, I hadn't even thought of that movie. It's freaking creepy now :/
This is interesting, and it reminds me that - being a regular user of thrift stores like Goodwill and Salvation Army - I'm seeing an awful lot of used copies of Spacey movies these days.
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Hunziker on Dec 18 2017, 10:31:14 AM wrote:
maxwelldeux on Dec 18 2017, 01:41:14 AM wrote:Heh. So I got one of those "Top lists update" messages on ICM. Glancing through it, blah blah blah, some minor changes at the bottom of the lists, totally expected - WAIT - "American Beauty" fell off the Romance list from #7? WFT?!?

About 2 minutes later, it dawned on me - "Oh... that's why."
Man, I hadn't even thought of that movie. It's freaking creepy now :/
it was always fucking creepy :huh:
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XxXApathy420XxX on Dec 18 2017, 07:10:31 PM wrote:Even arthouse directors do it https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... or-1060179
Saw this earlier today, hits hard because I used to be a really big fan of his 90s work. Always feels like the people you respect won't stoop that low. ugghhh
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fori on Dec 18 2017, 07:20:53 PM wrote:
XxXApathy420XxX on Dec 18 2017, 07:10:31 PM wrote:Even arthouse directors do it https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... or-1060179
Saw this earlier today, hits hard because I used to be a really big fan of his 90s work. Always feels like the people you respect won't stoop that low. ugghhh
When I was a child I looked up to and respected church elders, policemen, the president, movie stars, and star athletes.

Uh, whoops :whistling:

These days I just assume everyone is a piece of shit. If they turn out not to be, well then that's a nice little surprise.
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sebby on Dec 18 2017, 07:30:42 PM wrote:These days I just assume everyone is a piece of shit. If they turn out not to be, well then that's a nice little surprise.
We seem to be approaching a state where that is indeed the safest stance. Fun times ahead. <_<
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A little Off-this-Off-Topic but related: Cardinal Bernard Francis Law, a central figure in another recent Powerful Men Fucking the Less Powerful Scandal, the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal as it first came to light in Boston, where Law was then Archbishop, has died in Rome, where he was allowed to lead out his post-scandal life in comfort rather than in the hard labor in prison without parole that he deserved. I wish I believed in an everlasting hell for unremittingly inhuman monsters like him and the hundreds of other "religious leaders" who have similarly abused their positions, but the hell is for those of us who still have to live under the irrational systems built thousands of years ago to control the weak and poor, and which we in the 21st century still seem for the most part uninterested in casting off.

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OldAle1 on Dec 20 2017, 11:01:20 AM wrote:A little Off-this-Off-Topic but related: Cardinal Bernard Francis Law, a central figure in another recent Powerful Men Fucking the Less Powerful Scandal, the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal as it first came to light in Boston, where Law was then Archbishop, has died in Rome, where he was allowed to lead out his post-scandal life in comfort rather than in the hard labor in prison without parole that he deserved. I wish I believed in an everlasting hell for unremittingly inhuman monsters like him and the hundreds of other "religious leaders" who have similarly abused their positions, but the hell is for those of us who still have to live under the irrational systems built thousands of years ago to control the weak and poor, and which we in the 21st century still seem for the most part uninterested in casting off.

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xianjiro on Dec 20 2017, 02:12:01 PM wrote:
OldAle1 on Dec 20 2017, 11:01:20 AM wrote:A little Off-this-Off-Topic but related: Cardinal Bernard Francis Law, a central figure in another recent Powerful Men Fucking the Less Powerful Scandal, the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal as it first came to light in Boston, where Law was then Archbishop, has died in Rome, where he was allowed to lead out his post-scandal life in comfort rather than in the hard labor in prison without parole that he deserved. I wish I believed in an everlasting hell for unremittingly inhuman monsters like him and the hundreds of other "religious leaders" who have similarly abused their positions, but the hell is for those of us who still have to live under the irrational systems built thousands of years ago to control the weak and poor, and which we in the 21st century still seem for the most part uninterested in casting off.

RIP to a Piece of Shit excuse for a human
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I'll echo xianjiro's well-spoken brevity...

I grew up in Catholic schools in one of the diocese where there were many, many claims. Fortunately, I never had to deal with this myself. But it's telling when they have letters in legal-speak notifying people of the last day they can file a claim. I received the following letter about 12 years ago (edited out identifying bits).
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The Bad and the Beautiful (1952); A Star is Born (1937); King Kong (1933); Sullivan’s Travels (1941); Show Girl in Hollywood (1930); You’ll Never Get Rich (1941); 42nd Street (1933); They Call it Sin (1932); The Mad Genius (1931); All About Eve (1950); Souls for Sale (1923); Stage Door (1937); The Stand-In (1937); Myrt and Marge (1933); The Broadway Melody (1929)
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Allegations against Max Landis are starting to come out. I have heard people talking in non-specific terms about how unpleasant Max Landis is so this doesn't surprise me. Oh, and also his dad has been covering up for him. The tweets they have in this article are hair-raising; sounds like there's going to be an avalanche of stories about him.

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Surprised that I only found out about this now https://www.screendaily.com/news/actres ... 65.article
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XxXApathy420XxX on Feb 11 2018, 05:31:37 PM wrote:Surprised that I only found out about this now https://www.screendaily.com/news/actres ... 65.article
Was expecting something entirely different given the thread Happy to see he was not a molestor, just a bit of an asshole. Directors slapping their actors and making them uncomfortable is an issue I’m not sure what I feel about – terrible working conditions of course, but so often these tactics create wonderful cinema – while often, including here being obviously not acceptable. Maybe directors who want to destroy their actors souls, or lighter measures (like here), should set up a consent form before hand – then everyone would know exactly what they are getting into.
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St. Gloede on Feb 12 2018, 04:19:05 AM wrote:Maybe directors who want to destroy their actors souls, or lighter measures (like here), should set up a consent form before hand – then everyone would know exactly what they are getting into.
"You want the job? You need the money? Sign here."

Yeah, can't see that being an issue in any way.
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Knaldskalle on Feb 12 2018, 10:10:37 AM wrote:
St. Gloede on Feb 12 2018, 04:19:05 AM wrote:Maybe directors who want to destroy their actors souls, or lighter measures (like here), should set up a consent form before hand – then everyone would know exactly what they are getting into.
"You want the job? You need the money? Sign here."

Yeah, can't see that being an issue in any way.
Very true, like "bum fighting". At the same time it is fully legal in most countries to take money for boxing and various fighting sports, and even certain reality shows goes a long way to torture their participants without much outrage, I don't quite see the distinction.
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This has been going on for quite some time, so I would consider an actor today to know what the risks are...

John Ford and Victor McLaglen (The Informer), from imdb
John Ford kept Victor McLaglen continually off-balance (and thus in character) by getting him drunk, changing his schedules, verbally abusing him on and off the set and filming scenes when he'd told McLaglen that they were only rehearsing. For the crucial rebel court scene, the story goes that Ford reduced the actor to a trembling wreck by promising him the day off only to bring him into the studio early and extremely hung over, insisting that he spit out his lines. McLaglen was so furious with Ford over this that he threatened to quit acting and kill the director.
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Ford was quite abusive to John Wayne also, on more than one film, but I guess Wayne knew who made his career and stuck with him until the 60s.
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Yeah, it's very common - doesn't necessarily mean it's moral or should happen, but there is also something artistically romantic to me in this kind of horrible exercise.
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Armoreska on Mar 7 2018, 04:26:46 AM wrote:https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/mps-moc ... ia-1820646
During the Cesars ceremony, a french female comedian, Blanche Gardin, asked : "Producers no longer have the right to rape actresses . But do we still have the right to sleep with them to get roles?" she asked. "Because if we don't, then we have to learn our lines, pass auditions, and we don't have the time. You realize how much time that takes?"

She was also wearing a badge in support of Louis C.K.

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St. Gloede on Feb 12 2018, 04:19:05 AM wrote:
XxXApathy420XxX on Feb 11 2018, 05:31:37 PM wrote:Surprised that I only found out about this now https://www.screendaily.com/news/actres ... 65.article
Was expecting something entirely different given the thread Happy to see he was not a molestor, just a bit of an asshole. Directors slapping their actors and making them uncomfortable is an issue I’m not sure what I feel about – terrible working conditions of course, but so often these tactics create wonderful cinema – while often, including here being obviously not acceptable. Maybe directors who want to destroy their actors souls, or lighter measures (like here), should set up a consent form before hand – then everyone would know exactly what they are getting into.
Well I guess that changed

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It’s frustrating to see so many high profile cases knowing that mine doesn’t have the power to make any difference. Speaking out against my rapist has just made ‘friends’ ditch me, block me and befriend the rapist again. Maybe in Australia being a rapist is just a cool personality quirk.
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eh, just another clueless, rich, heterosexual, white guy - who cares - so 20th Century
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maxwelldeux on Mar 16 2018, 05:50:04 PM wrote:And now, the AMPAS President: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/entertai ... index.html
This explains why the Kobe film won for Best Animated Short Film.
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Don't know if this one has come to light earlier but it's the first I've heard of it. Sorry, Ren and Stimpy fans -

https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/jo ... .blg7Dw9ZV
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Catherine Breillat, called out by Asia Argento, after Breillat blasts the MeToo movement

https://www.thewrap.com/asia-argento-sa ... er-on-set/

Lot of stuff to unpack in this short article, more so for me probably since I'm not really that familiar with either of these ladies' work - I have a bunch of stuff from each of them actually, just haven't gotten around to any of it. And I haven't read too much in the way of reviews or discussions about either of them, so out of the loop. Curious what more knowledgeable folks think.

Also a little bit at the end of this article about David Hamilton, the British "erotica" photographer and filmmaker who specialized in gauzy celebrations of nubile and nude young women - or more appropriately, girls. I've known his name for a long time, and when I was a horny teenager I spent more time than I care to admit trying to snag some of his sleazy "art" books which in this area were put in adults-only sections of stores. Seems dirty now but what did I know then? Anyway turns out he killed himself a couple of years ago after accusations of abuse leveled against him by some of his former models.
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Smallvile star Allison Mack charged with sex trafficking:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43846243
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Never really watched the show, but that's beyond horrible.
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Bill Cosby found guilty on three counts of indecent assault: https://www.npr.org/2018/04/26/60600548 ... nt-assault

Faces a statutory maximum prison sentence of 30 years, but apparently a max sentence of 10 years is most likely, but sentencing still to come. Finally got him on something (this was related to just one of the many incidents he's been accused of).
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morrison-dylan-fan on Apr 21 2018, 07:09:19 AM wrote:Smallvile star Allison Mack charged with sex trafficking:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43846243
I'm surprised this isn't a bigger story. This is maybe the most disturbing of all the stories that have come out (except maybe Cosby). Goes to show that star power and ad revenue still matter more than anything else.
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smallville is still on the air? i'd never heard of allison mack til this broke

i believe the billionaire bronfman sisters have been keeping this cult alive. to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/1013 ... 2a0f261853

http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business ... 0-million/

https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010 ... man-201011

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyre ... lbany.html

as you can see it's been in the news before. a tv series is possibly in the works

http://www.newsweek.com/keith-raniere-n ... ult-902268
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RBG on Apr 26 2018, 03:28:59 PM wrote:smallville is still on the air? i'd never heard of allison mack til this broke
I'd never heard of her either (didn't watch the show), but apparently the show ended in 2011. Weird story though.
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