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How would you invest your money, or accumulate fortune so that, at one point in life, you'll be not forced to work anymore a single day for the rest of your lives?

Don't you think stealing 1/3 of your spare time is just too much, no matter how much you like your profession?
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How would you invest your money, or accumulate fortune so that, at one point in life, you'll be not forced to work anymore a single day for the rest of your lives?

Don't you think stealing 1/3 of your spare time is just too much, no matter how much you like your profession?
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I have already done the first option, so I think that if I voted for another I'd be a bit hypocritical.
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Rather disturbing poll - I worry for you, M.
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monty on Jun 5 2016, 07:48:10 PM wrote:Rather disturbing poll - I worry for you, M.
This is what you get when you make us work for 350 EUR a month. You must find a way to beat the neoliberal capitalism by its own weapon - money. Accumulate it enough and then manipulate the system they created for themselves.
Of course buy nothing but food, drinks, walk and do not buy cars, wear same clothes for decades, etc. Then make others to do the same, and ruin their feud.
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Monty, you live in such a perfect place on Earth for this stuff that I could project you not to work anymore. Just follow my instructions. :D
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Btw, is it legal not to have registered address of living in Norway? Do everybody must have one?
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Well, with falling oil prices we're feeling the pinch as well. Unemployment is on the rise and ever more businesses are being forced to shut down operation.
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Sure, you need a registered address. Btw, asylum seekers are facing harsher times here as our new Minister of Immigration and Integration keeps pushing for ever more restrictive policies.
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monty on Jun 5 2016, 08:09:55 PM wrote:Well, with falling oil prices we're feeling the pinch as well. Unemployment is on the rise and ever more businesses are being forced to shut down operation.
I thought is it possible to buy more luxury variant of RV, and live in it. Park yourself in front of your job, use bathroom there and save on the bills and petrol.
I believe that's not peanuts in Norway. The difference that stays in your pocket invest in five businesses, shut down four and continue with the most prosperous one.

And sooner than you think you'll be in position to do No.1 in this poll.
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Of course throwing yourself in front of expensive cars works only if the driver slowly enters the curve at the signals and doesn't abide your advantage of pass; do not try that in the open highway.

And make sure you bring along your friend with the camera to stand near. :whistling:
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Mario Gaborović on Jun 5 2016, 06:52:48 PM wrote:How would you invest your money, or accumulate fortune so that, at one point in life, you'll be not forced to work anymore a single day for the rest of your lives?

Don't you think stealing 1/3 of your spare time is just too much, no matter how much you like your profession?
1/3 of spare time? I wish. I always have to bring my work home with me.

By the way, is the title of this thread a Macbeth reference or is that accidental?
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I'm always intruiged by living as a self-provider (cultivate some small fields, have a few animals) in the middle of nowhere (but with internet access!). But then I remind myself that I'm actually a quite lazy bum, and would likely starve after two weeks living like that.

In earnest, I pondered that question in general. I don't like to work. My job isn't bad, likely as good as work can be for me, but I just don't have the mindset to see work as an important part of my life, and I do it purely out of necessity to be able to afford my lifestyle. So if I had the means and saw a reasonable way to not work another single day in my life anymore, I would strongly consider that.

Buying and renting a house seems good, if you have the statrting fund. But here, that means at least a big six figure or small seven figure starting investment to get enough rent back to life from that. And obviously I don't have that kind of cash.

Drug dealing or pimping seem solid ways to live an adrenaline filled life with little actual work, if you don't mind the illegality. And if you get caught you have free life in prison. Seems not so bad, if you have low morals I guess.
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Given your excellent location, Mario, how about some people smuggling?
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You forgot the option "start working for the government". B)
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That's what I'm working on and wondering atm
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You guys are missing the point. Illegal actions will prevent you to get working visa for happier places like Canada or Switzerland or Scandinavian countries. Once you have a police file record, you're not able anymore to move out and you need tremendous effort to accomplish this in a bad economic environment. Mafia brings you short-term income, but they also usually get shot by the age of 35. Thanks, but I would like to live up full natural lifespan.

Re-locate to some of this places for a real job, and then amass your fortune so you could be in position for further actions.
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I guess you're not talking about my reaction? Because my remark was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I'm actually very happy working for the government. Good salary and plenty of spare time. I like my work, I like my colleagues, and I just don't mind going to the office four days a week.
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No I was referring to people smuggling and other immoral actions. Working for the government is like 1% of the people, those who didn't have that luck are afraid of being fired day by day.
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Gee, no one around here wants to work in films?!? What gives?
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xianjiro on Jun 6 2016, 05:50:27 AM wrote:Gee, no one around here wants to work in films?!? What gives?
Don't know how it is in other countries, but my fellow hometown acquiantance studied at the Faculty of Dramatic Arts and he told me that he lost the money on his films.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3121746/

Glavonić and protagonist of this film live in the same town as me, and I know them both. The doc was a regional hit, yet he had to give money from his own pockets and eventually end up in minus.

Now if you make money in other ways, you can be financially secured AND make films.
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xianjiro on Jun 6 2016, 05:50:27 AM wrote:Gee, no one around here wants to work in films?!? What gives?
Pursuing this career now. Not filmmaking but academia. I had a job in another field for ten years and it depressed the hell out of me. 7-8 hours (often more) a day to do something I no longer find exciting or interesting just wasn't for me. I have to do something that I find interesting even if it means much less pay. So I had to change even if it meant moving to a place where I know nobody and a more shitty economy again (at least until PhD). I have thought a lot about what Mario suggests though, but found out that I am too much of a materialist to live on so little cash in the long run. I want to live comfortable when/if I have kids one day for example.
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That's certainly frequent answer I hear: "I wanna live comfortable, what's the use of living"... But there's some stuff people can actually live without and they're too much of expenditure.

Not having car for instance. Take bus everywhere. Visit cities all at once in a package holiday (say, Marseille-Genova-Monaco or Wien-Bratislava-Budapest). Don't sit in caffes, buy beer in the supermarket and sit in the park.

Regarding filmmaking and other fine things, they are almost universally nonprofitable. So I find very difficult to understand when people say "I love my job". Is there anything that is loveble and you can live off? All what's interesting is in the domain of hobby.
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Mario Gaborović on Jun 6 2016, 05:55:08 AM wrote:
xianjiro on Jun 6 2016, 05:50:27 AM wrote:Gee, no one around here wants to work in films?!? What gives?
Don't know how it is in other countries, but my fellow hometown acquiantance studied at the Faculty of Dramatic Arts and he told me that he lost the money on his films.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3121746/

Glavoniæ and protagonist of this film live in the same town as me, and I know them both. The doc was a regional hit, yet he had to give money from his own pockets and eventually end up in minus.

Now if you make money in other ways, you can be financially secured AND make films.
This one is streaming on Mubi right now, though. I figure they'll get some money for it?
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monty on Jun 5 2016, 08:09:55 PM wrote:Well, with falling oil prices we're feeling the pinch as well.
The "pinch"? What's the average pension in Norway? Here it's 288 EUR.......
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Gershwin on Jun 6 2016, 07:20:33 AM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Jun 6 2016, 05:55:08 AM wrote:
xianjiro on Jun 6 2016, 05:50:27 AM wrote:Gee, no one around here wants to work in films?!? What gives?
Don't know how it is in other countries, but my fellow hometown acquiantance studied at the Faculty of Dramatic Arts and he told me that he lost the money on his films.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3121746/

Glavoniæ and protagonist of this film live in the same town as me, and I know them both. The doc was a regional hit, yet he had to give money from his own pockets and eventually end up in minus.

Now if you make money in other ways, you can be financially secured AND make films.
This one is streaming on Mubi right now, though. I figure they'll get some money for it?
He told me that he was in minus at the end of everything. He had to ask his dad for money to recover from losses. They weren't big, though.

I met the protagonist of the film back in 2002; he and his family moved from a small village about 100km north from Pančevo, and soon he befriended local crew of punkrockers, metalheads and other fans of alternative-music - myself and Glavonić among others. He has unreserved and honest love for punk, though he's not brightest individual you'd ever met.

And then around 2007 he came to crazy idea to organize festival in his own village in the middle of nowhere, which otherwise faces serious depopulation and have nothing but old people left. And he constantly pushed and pushed this thing even though number of visitors were 30 at best.
He always lost money.

The films follows him in his latest attempt to make this "festival" recognized, and he even arranged a band from Slovakia to come and play there - "the festival became international now", as he put it. :lol: But these guys didn't know what's waiting for them there. They expected a lot bigger thing and at least to be paid for their expenses. Even those local bands who he's able to collect came there on a friendly basis, to help him accomplish his Donquixotean dream. In the end, he managed to sell 12 tickets. :lol: On top of that, the guy who was supposed to drive Slovakian band to his home (he's Slovak himself, local minority) got drunk like hell.

The director told me that the guests from another country were so demoralized he himself felt ashamed. You can't see that in the film, so he let us know.
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Now that you know what is the most important thing in the world, money, ask yourself what is the second one.

Sex.

What is the third most important thing in the world?

Family.

Then, find the perfect marriage. You'll provide sex (and love, attention and compliments, and lies) and be sure to create a family thanks to your most precious organs: your private parts.

Thanks to the feminism, men can do it now without being perceive as a gigolo. Women work, women have money. And these chicks can't pay for everything.

Men's most important asset, it's not their work, it's not what they got at the bank to buy buildings for renting rooms, it's their balls.

Do you want to be happy or do you want a lazy life?

This choice fits perfectly men suffering premature ejaculation. 15m vs 30sec of work 3 times a week. 1m30/week of work for plenty money. (Often working girls still have no time to make love 3 times a week, and especially in Slavic countries where the average is 1.2/week; but it's also harder to find a working wife there).

Good luck.

(If a single wife is not enough, or if she doesn't make a lot of money, remember that divorce and affairs are not prohibited.)
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Donquixotean
I think the correct word here is "quixotic"

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De Limgralois on Jun 6 2016, 12:03:13 PM wrote:Do you want to be happy or do you want a lazy life?
Somehow I put equals sign there. No need to work means more time to watch films & do something creative, instead of most numb individuals do: stare in the ceiling, gossip their neighbors and do some senseless stuff like filling betting tickets/watching Champions League like nothing else exist.
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haven't worked for a year now!



my anti-work playlist. any suggestions?
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Updated the playlist with some music etc
150 entries now
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Just watched a movie about quitting the job while discovering Elio Petri.
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/i+giorni+contati/
beyond Office Space, what others are there hmmm?
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What did you do before this Armoreska ?
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low level jobs at a small software dev company, 4 years full time
(i figure you mean what job i had, not which movie i watched before that lol)
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Cool you found a way to not work for a year and hopefully get paid in the meantime :lol:
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I saved 4/5ths of my smol salary. If it were double I would've saved 9/10ths. sigh.
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www.reddit.com/r/fire or www.reddit.com/r/fatfire

I am very lucky. I was in grad school in 2011. Bitcoin was this small unknown thing. It was fun. I was like why not. I ended up with a lot. Then life came (dissertation/married/kids/etc.) and I forgot(ish) about them.

I don't have to work anymore. But my job is "easy" and pays very well. So I continue to work.

I could FIRE, but for now ill just keep "Fuck You Money"
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I wouldnt say I can retire, i just turned 26 bug it's amazing how much my girlfriend and I can save. We both graduated from university at the same year, worked for a year and bought a house. I always invested all the money I had and so did she. We are now 2 years into payying off our house and we save over 3k a month together which is really more than you need in my country.

If we didnt plan on ever having kids or the need to travel 5+ times a year im sure we could retire at 35.
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blueboybob wrote: December 28th, 2020, 4:48 pm www.reddit.com/r/fire or www.reddit.com/r/fatfire

I am very lucky. I was in grad school in 2011. Bitcoin was this small unknown thing. It was fun. I was like why not. I ended up with a lot. Then life came (dissertation/married/kids/etc.) and I forgot(ish) about them.

I don't have to work anymore. But my job is "easy" and pays very well. So I continue to work.

I could FIRE, but for now ill just keep "Fuck You Money"
Geez, that's great, well done! I remember a friend and co-worker mentioning bitcoin to me, it probably would have been in 2011 or so, and encouraged me to buy some. I laughed and said it was too risky. Yeah, needless to say I'm still working today. :)

I was in grad school (the first time) in 1997-2000, and in 1999 I invested $8000 in a certain search engine company that was in its very early stages and, I was assured, would be the next big thing. And yes, I still own those shares, every single one of them. That company, you ask? Fetchomatic Global Internet Inc. My shares quadrupled in value within a few months, then dropped down to pennies within the next year or so. They wound up switching from search engines to mobile homes, if I remember correctly. Ah well, seemed like a good idea at the time, if I'd just invested in a certain other search engine company a few years later I'd probably be in the same boat as you!
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I am 100% lucky. DO NOT INVEST in BTC. It was a lottery ticket. I didnt get in to make money. I liked the math. I read all the publications because I was also publishing papers in math & physics at the time. It was purely academic and turned into a lucky break.
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