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Post by Ivan0716 » June 13th, 2019, 10:46 pm

lol, turns out a lot of people took issue with the US celebrations: https://twitter.com/hashtag/uglyamericans

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Yes Abby, being women is the reason why they're getting so much stick for their celebrations. :facepalm:

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#4082

Post by 72allinncallme » June 14th, 2019, 4:41 am

Abby Wambach wrote:You would never say this about a men’s team
A men’s team wouldn’t have celebrated like that the last 8-10 goals so no. :shrug:

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#4083

Post by Lonewolf2003 » June 14th, 2019, 8:16 am

Even the Germans showed more humility against Brasil in 2014.

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#4084

Post by Teproc » June 14th, 2019, 8:36 am

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:16 am
Even the Germans showed more humility against Brasil in 2014.
Exactly what I was thinking about, though it being in Brazil also does matter there.

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#4085

Post by Ivan0716 » June 14th, 2019, 1:02 pm

72allinncallme wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 4:41 am
Abby Wambach wrote:You would never say this about a men’s team
A men’s team wouldn’t have celebrated like that the last 8-10 goals so no. :shrug:
Oh, take of your patriarchal glasses. :D

To be fair though, I don't think any of the other teams would have done that neither, seems very much a Team USA thing.

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#4086

Post by max-scl » June 14th, 2019, 6:07 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:16 am
Even the Germans showed more humility against Brasil in 2014.
That's not humility for me, I think it's even more humiliating if you stop making an effort because you think your opponent is not worth it.

I understand if you slow down and stop chasing every ball to not get injured or tired after so many goals, but you should never stop competing, so for me, the USA girls are right and the critics are wrong.

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#4087

Post by Teproc » June 14th, 2019, 6:13 pm

max-scl wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 6:07 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:16 am
Even the Germans showed more humility against Brasil in 2014.
That's not humility for me, I think it's even more humiliating if you stop making an effort because you think your opponent is not worth it.

I understand if you slow down and stop chasing every ball to not get injured or tired after so many goals, but you should never stop competing, so for me, the USA girls are right and the critics are wrong.
The issue is not the goals (of course they should score every goal they can, this is a competition), the issue is the over-the-top celebrating of them.

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Post by jvv » June 14th, 2019, 6:18 pm

max-scl wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 6:07 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
June 14th, 2019, 8:16 am
Even the Germans showed more humility against Brasil in 2014.
That's not humility for me, I think it's even more humiliating if you stop making an effort because you think your opponent is not worth it.

I understand if you slow down and stop chasing every ball to not get injured or tired after so many goals, but you should never stop competing, so for me, the USA girls are right and the critics are wrong.
The critique is not about continuing trying to score, that's the goal of the game after all, but about the over the top celebrating.

And over the top celebrating is ok for the 1st, 2nd, even the 3rd goal, but if you're at goal 8 or 9 against a clearly inferior opponent, you might want to tone the celebration down a bit.

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#4089

Post by max-scl » June 14th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Ah ok, my bad.

I didn't find the celebrations to be over the top though (just rewatched them). Alex Morgan was very quiet in her last goals, and maybe the other girls that scored were simply happy on a personal level (first WC goal can be an important moment) but still they were normal celebrations for me.

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#4090

Post by Ivan0716 » June 15th, 2019, 8:08 pm

Love the Dutch fans. :party:



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Post by Cippenham » June 16th, 2019, 11:53 am

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#4093

Post by Armoreska » June 16th, 2019, 12:07 pm

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Post by Ivan0716 » June 17th, 2019, 10:22 pm

Who would have thought the most/(only?) exciting player in the tournament so far would be a goalkeeper? I mean, letting in 3 and still picked up the PotM, what a monster.

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Post by max-scl » June 18th, 2019, 2:26 am

we love her

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Post by max-scl » June 20th, 2019, 9:23 pm

Heartbreaking win for Chile. 2-0 against Thailand but one more goal was needed to qualify for next round. Missed a penalty at 85 minutes that would've been the 3-0. (u)

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Post by Ivan0716 » June 20th, 2019, 11:56 pm

I forgot how much fun the women's tourny is, the quality of defending makes for so many exciting moments :lol: . Some awful refereeing though, the first USA goal today looked kinda offside, and the second one was definitely offside, the ref obviously just didn't want to upset the crowd.

Sad we won't see Endler or Banini anymore, loved watching them trying to carry their teams, was really hoping one of them would nick a third place spot.

All set up for a France-Germany final now.
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Post by Ivan0716 » June 21st, 2019, 5:42 am

Oh man these defenders :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#4099

Post by Ivan0716 » June 23rd, 2019, 3:47 pm

LOL England scored an IFK from a backpass. tehe tehe tehe

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Post by Mario Gaborović » June 23rd, 2019, 4:02 pm

African cup of nations started. Uganda beat DR Congo 2-0 and that's the only upset so far.

Burundi, Madagascar & Mauritania all make their debut at the tournament.

There's also the ongoing CONCACAF Gold Cup which is always less fun cause of discrepancy between teams like Mexico/USA and others.

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#4101

Post by Ivan0716 » June 23rd, 2019, 6:37 pm

Cops America is also ongoing, there's a chance Argentina will go out at the group stage vs. Qatar which kicks off in ~30 mins.

Messi should really just retired(internationally) for good for his own sake.

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#4102

Post by flaiky » June 24th, 2019, 1:13 pm

Still angry about the Cameroon game last night. Unbelievable the way they behaved.
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#4103

Post by max-scl » June 25th, 2019, 2:01 am

Copa América Quarter-Finals:

Brazil-Paraguay
Argentina- Venezuela

Colombia-Chile
Uruguay-Perú

Looking forward to all of these matches. Paraguay has eliminated Brazil in 2 of the last 3 Copas America. (Both by penalties)
Argentina is looking like shit, and Venezuela are looking good. But the Argentinians are better.
Colombia-Chile is very close, and Uruguay-Perú is closer than it looks from outside South America, Perú always overachieves in Copas America, but the 0-5 to Brasil may have hurt their confidence.

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Post by max-scl » June 30th, 2019, 2:06 am

So, everything went as expected in the Copa America quarterfinals:

Brazil and Paraguay went to penalties just like the last two times, but now Brasil advances.
Argentina won easily against Venezuela thanks to a brilliant Lautaro Martinez and the subpar performance by the Venezuelans.
Chile wins in penalties vs Colombia, who once again fails to deliver in important stages despite being probably the side with the best players right now.
Peru reaches another semifinal, 3 of the last 4 times they've done that. Uruguay were better but it wasn't well played match by either side.

So the semis are:
Brazil-Argentima
Chile-Perú

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#4105

Post by Ivan0716 » July 3rd, 2019, 10:38 am

Is this team just completely made up of arrogant cunts or what? Good thing I didn't actually see it in the game, the US team is indefinitely more watchable without Rapinoe on the pitch.

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#4106

Post by Teproc » July 3rd, 2019, 11:35 am

What's the problem there ?

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Post by flaiky » July 3rd, 2019, 1:29 pm

She mimed sipping a cup of tea after scoring against England. Pretty good trolling tbh but also, fuck her. People on reddit were saying White should respond by pretending to shoot a semi-automatic into the crowd. tehe

That was a thrilling and agonising game.

Goddamn we're shite at penalties.
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Post by max-scl » July 4th, 2019, 2:58 pm

That tea gesture is brilliant! And it spices things up in the women's game which is always welcome and brings extra attention to the tournament.

Copa América:
The final is going to be Brazil-Perú

Brazil beat Argentina with some difficulty and help from the (absent) VAR.
Perú won easily against Chile yesterday 3-0, so I'm in ruins.

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Post by Cippenham » July 7th, 2019, 7:23 am

I cannot take any interest in women’s football. As for Copa America an outsider would normally expect Brazil to win.

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Post by Ivan0716 » July 7th, 2019, 2:39 pm

Come on Dutchies, don't fail us!

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Post by 3eyes » July 7th, 2019, 3:06 pm

not my thing obviously, but my husband's Liberian caregiver is rooting hard for the US teams of both sexes ("I love America!") - OK, I believe him, but I told him that the way the country is going we don't deserve to win anything and I'll root for anyone else (well, not TUrkey or Zimbabwe or....) anyway, GO HOLLANDAISE!
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Post by flaiky » July 7th, 2019, 3:41 pm

This Dutch keeper is a hero.
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Post by blueboybob » July 7th, 2019, 3:52 pm

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Post by Armoreska » July 8th, 2019, 7:53 am

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Post by max-scl » July 8th, 2019, 3:01 pm

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