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Post by Knaldskalle » April 2nd, 2020, 11:29 pm

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 2nd, 2020, 11:33 pm

Cippenham wrote:
April 2nd, 2020, 11:15 pm
Strong border controls, respect for religion and culture.
I'm genuinely curious about one thing regarding this. How do you feel about non-profit museums that can't survive on a capitalist basis, and need money from the government aka taxpayers. Is that a waste of tax money?

I noticed that is a contradiction upon many from the right. They don't support this, yet they support the preservation of their culture. Kind of hard to preserve that when the museums showing those cultures won't survive.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » April 3rd, 2020, 2:32 am

Cippenham wrote:
April 2nd, 2020, 11:11 pm
The Democrats are an utter disgrace. This is the time to support one of the greatest Presidents ever, up there in the top 6 , and what are they doing, to impeach him again for his handling of the Covid crisis. It’s as if Roosevelt was impeached for joining World War Two, it’s an utter disgrace people should be working together this is not a time for such politics. China is to blame for this, perhaps it came from laboratories there not form markets. We need to boycott China and change the world economy to finally get rid of globalism and build a new nationalist populist world order, based on strong moral and religious basis, like India are calling for. Switch off China , they need to be punished for this. But only when it is over.
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Post by Cippenham » April 3rd, 2020, 2:37 am

I am not in favour of no government support , of course things like museums support history and culture and need support. Also health care. We have found out Germany has a much better system of medicine than the Uk which is fully socialist, free at the point of use. The Germans have managed to do much more testing than the Uk. But both systems are preferable to that in the USA obviously.

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Post by Onderhond » April 3rd, 2020, 4:55 am

Cippenham wrote:
April 2nd, 2020, 11:15 pm
each country should protect its own people
Crazy to hear someone from the UK say something like this. You should know better than the rest of us that there is no "own" people even within borders of a country. Nationalism is a farce that's only good for sports games, but it a joke beyond that.

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Post by Kublai Khan » April 3rd, 2020, 5:14 pm



Some Orwellian shit going down..
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Post by Cippenham » April 4th, 2020, 12:59 am

Onderhond wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 4:55 am
Cippenham wrote:
April 2nd, 2020, 11:15 pm
each country should protect its own people
Crazy to hear someone from the UK say something like this. You should know better than the rest of us that there is no "own" people even within borders of a country. Nationalism is a farce that's only good for sports games, but it a joke beyond that.
It is the future, get used to it

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Post by Onderhond » April 4th, 2020, 7:22 am

Cippenham wrote:
April 4th, 2020, 12:59 am
It is the future, get used to it
I just hope Scotland can get still get out.

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Post by Cippenham » April 4th, 2020, 9:21 am

Scotland is part of the Uk and not independent but the Uk is ruled by a liberal socialist globalist elite and not by nationalist populists but Farage had a big role in Brexit.

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Post by Cippenham » April 4th, 2020, 9:22 am

India USA Brazil Hungary Poland for example have nationalist populist leaders

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Post by Onderhond » April 4th, 2020, 10:02 am

Cippenham wrote:
April 4th, 2020, 9:21 am
Scotland is part of the Uk and not independent but the Uk is ruled by a liberal socialist globalist elite and not by nationalist populists but Farage had a big role in Brexit.
Well, the UK is part of Europe, so that's no argument.
And many of the Scots clearly don't want to be grouped together with England, so why force them, right? Clearly no "nation" to speak of. Let's split it up.

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Post by Kublai Khan » April 4th, 2020, 4:46 pm

So weird that the people who claim to be anti-globalist in word are always anti-union in word and action.
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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 4th, 2020, 4:49 pm

Not as weird as my dad. He thinks the world is run by "jewish satanists" and that google is personally against him. It's sad because he has my illnesses (they are genetic), but he thinks they are just demons tormenting him so he refuses to take medication.

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Post by Cippenham » April 4th, 2020, 5:15 pm

No one is forcing Scotland they voted to stay in the Uk as a once in a generation referendum decision

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Post by Onderhond » April 4th, 2020, 5:44 pm

Cippenham wrote:
April 4th, 2020, 5:15 pm
No one is forcing Scotland they voted to stay in the Uk as a once in a generation referendum decision
Well, you're forcing it to be "once in a generation". Clearly the UK acting like pricks has them changing their minds. Sounds fair.

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Post by Cippenham » April 4th, 2020, 6:47 pm

No it was agreed at the time. Anyway in current circumstances nothing will change.

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Post by Onderhond » April 4th, 2020, 8:08 pm

Cippenham wrote:
April 4th, 2020, 6:47 pm
Anyway in current circumstances nothing will change.
So another referendum wouldn't hurt at all then.

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Post by St. Gloede » April 4th, 2020, 9:15 pm

The real question is why you as a proud nationalist would want to be in such a close union with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Shouldn't a nationalist be putting England first and break up this globalist union?

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Post by Dolwphin » April 4th, 2020, 9:18 pm

Nationalism is very bad and Scotland must become a sovereign nation state!
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Post by St. Gloede » April 6th, 2020, 11:53 am

The co-founder of Justice Democrats (the group that elected AOC, Tlaib, Omar, etc.) literally just came out on his show with "As soon as someone enters congress they are by definition not on our side" and is now pushing for a full-on general strike and "scaring the hell out of everyone in Washington DC":


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Post by Cippenham » April 6th, 2020, 7:12 pm

Due to Boris Johnson being on hospital and his condition possibly worse than we are told, I am not commenting on British politics for the moment. Edit. He is confirmed as now being in intensive care.

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Post by St. Gloede » April 6th, 2020, 7:51 pm

Feeding the troll, I know, but this is one of your funniest bits still.

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Post by Cocoa » April 7th, 2020, 12:33 am

I doubt this applies to anyone here, but just in case,

if you live in Wisconsin and haven't received an absentee ballot, call your municipal clerk and they will send you a printable ballot via email. Municipal clerk lookup: https://myvote.wi.gov/en-US/MyMunicipalClerk

There is an important judge race for Wisconsin. Today, the Wisconsin governor tried to postpone the election and move it to June, but the conservatives on the Wisconsin Supreme Court blocked that. Also today, the conservatives on the United States Supreme Court blocked Wisconsin from extending absentee voting. Wisconsin currently have thousands of people who requested absentee ballots and haven't received them yet due to the pandemic.

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Post by Cippenham » April 7th, 2020, 5:37 am

It’s not funny for me, it shouldn’t be funny for anyone.

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Post by Cippenham » April 7th, 2020, 5:40 am

For US politics, could they move to nearly all postal votes? Are people not receiving their mail?

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Post by St. Gloede » April 7th, 2020, 5:50 am

If you need it spelt out (and are not a troll laughing your ass off, which I find nearly impossible to believe at this point):

Going to the US thread to announce you cannot possibly discuss British politics (after you already announced it on the British thread) is peek narcissism.

(Also, the fact that you have this much empathy/respect for a member of what you see as a Socialist Conspiracy when you don't have empathy/respect for other people dying - and play it up to such an extent that you'd think he was your god, adds further to the hilarity).

But you are a troll, this is a joke, and for once, it is genuinely funny, so cheers. :cheers:

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Post by Cippenham » April 7th, 2020, 8:06 am

The previous posters were talking here about Britain, why don’t you just check that above. SG is completely out of order here in everything. Socialism itself leads to many people suffering and dying as he well knows.

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Post by Onderhond » April 7th, 2020, 8:34 am

Cippenham wrote:
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Socialism itself leads to many people suffering and dying as he well knows.
You're confusing socialism with living.

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Post by St. Gloede » April 7th, 2020, 8:47 am

Cippenham wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 8:06 am
The previous posters were talking here about Britain, why don’t you just check that above. SG is completely out of order here in everything. Socialism itself leads to many people suffering and dying as he well knows.
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Keep the goodies coming!

Because Britain is discussed you must ANNOUNCE that you will not participate.

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Comedy gold.

Thank you for "Socialism kills too" (l) (l) (l) (l) (l)

You floor me funny man.

If you are a real person you really have no dignity. You know Social Democracies have some of the highest living standards in the world.

(reminder to those who don't know Cipp the Troll - Therese May is a Socialist, Boris Johnson is a socialist and anything remotely close to Social Liberalism and moderate Conservatism is SOCIALIST)

So yeah, not a real person - and with that, bravo for the entertainment once again. (l) (l) (l) :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Post by Cocoa » April 7th, 2020, 3:35 pm

Cippenham wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 5:40 am
For US politics, could they move to nearly all postal votes? Are people not receiving their mail?
In a perfect world, they can move to nearly all postal votes. Some states only use mail-in votes now, such as Washington, Utah, Colorado, Hawai'i, and Oregon. There are a few more states that are in the process of transitioning to a similar system, and the majority of states in the U.S. allow absentee ballot but some of those states require an "excuse" on the request form as to why the person can't vote in person.

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The simple fact is that a bunch of mail-in ballots are being requested in Wisconsin, much larger than they were anticipating pre-COVID19 pandemic, and the Wisconsin offices in charge of handling those requests are understaffed for this situation. A lot of people that requested a mail ballot have not received one.

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Post by Cocoa » April 7th, 2020, 3:39 pm

There is also legislation in Congress to allow everyone to vote by mail regardless of which state they reside in. Democrat Senators Ron Wyden and Amy Klobuchar have been leading on this issue, but the Democrats are in the minority in the Senate, so it's unlikely to ever be up for a vote and pass. There have been attempts to get similar things into the stimulus packages associated with the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Post by OldAle1 » April 8th, 2020, 1:06 am

Cocoa wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 12:33 am
I doubt this applies to anyone here, but just in case,

if you live in Wisconsin and haven't received an absentee ballot, call your municipal clerk and they will send you a printable ballot via email. Municipal clerk lookup: https://myvote.wi.gov/en-US/MyMunicipalClerk

There is an important judge race for Wisconsin. Today, the Wisconsin governor tried to postpone the election and move it to June, but the conservatives on the Wisconsin Supreme Court blocked that. Also today, the conservatives on the United States Supreme Court blocked Wisconsin from extending absentee voting. Wisconsin currently have thousands of people who requested absentee ballots and haven't received them yet due to the pandemic.
Well, actually, that's me. And I was stupid and never requested an absentee ballot - I've always voted live in-person and treasure the experience; I suppose if I'd ever had to wait in a 2-hour line I wouldn't, but I've never had problems voting, at least not since college which is 30+ years for me.

So I waffled most of the day about voting, and ultimately I didn't. My city normally has 6 polling places; today it had one, downtown, at City Hall, which doesn't have enough parking even on a normal day. I did go out briefly because I had to, and drove by, and there was a long, long line of people, most without masks. I haven't been feeling great for a few days - I really don't think it's COVID, probably my normal seasonal allergies - no fever, very little coughing, just some shoulder pain, runny nose and light breathing difficulty (I had asthma as a kid and it's largely been gone as an adult, but I get little hints of it around this time every year), and I didn't stop. Oh, and I have no health insurance. I haven't always been a regular voter truth be told but this is the first election I've missed since I moved back to Wisconsin almost 7 years ago. I just felt like, I'm not going to risk myself here, I'd rather be more sure that I'll be around for the November election (my birthday this year, it'll either be the best or worst present ever).

Anyway I'm depressed about it, and about the whole thing, this has really been terrible, and the continuing saga of this disease in this country under this President feels like it has the potential to be one of the worst examples of incompetence, hubris, greed and sheer malfeasance in the entire history of the world, or at least in the history of "democracy". We're not quite in that category yet but we're getting there.

Anyway that's it for me, I said I wasn't going to post here anymore and I'm going to try to stick to it, unless the deeply stupid and ignorant (but claiming genius IQ of course - this is so typical) fascist asshole troll who writes like a 5-year old and has an understanding of the world to match is permanently banned from the site. Seriously C---, I"m sure Stormfront has a movie forum on it's site, post there you irredeemable piece of subhuman garbage.

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Post by kongs_speech » April 8th, 2020, 4:59 am

Cippenham wrote:
April 2nd, 2020, 11:11 pm
The Democrats are an utter disgrace. This is the time to support one of the greatest Presidents ever, up there in the top 6 , and what are they doing, to impeach him again for his handling of the Covid crisis. It’s as if Roosevelt was impeached for joining World War Two, it’s an utter disgrace people should be working together this is not a time for such politics. China is to blame for this, perhaps it came from laboratories there not form markets. We need to boycott China and change the world economy to finally get rid of globalism and build a new nationalist populist world order, based on strong moral and religious basis, like India are calling for. Switch off China , they need to be punished for this. But only when it is over.
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Post by Nathan Treadway » April 8th, 2020, 5:44 am

Cocoa wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 3:35 pm
Cippenham wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 5:40 am
For US politics, could they move to nearly all postal votes? Are people not receiving their mail?
In a perfect world, they can move to nearly all postal votes. Some states only use mail-in votes now, such as Washington, Utah, Colorado, Hawai'i, and Oregon. There are a few more states that are in the process of transitioning to a similar system, and the majority of states in the U.S. allow absentee ballot but some of those states require an "excuse" on the request form as to why the person can't vote in person.

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The simple fact is that a bunch of mail-in ballots are being requested in Wisconsin, much larger than they were anticipating pre-COVID19 pandemic, and the Wisconsin offices in charge of handling those requests are understaffed for this situation. A lot of people that requested a mail ballot have not received one.
This reminds me that I need to register to vote here. My old state allows you to vote absentee (and they usually encouraged it, probably more this year). My new state evidently requires an excuse. Maybe I should just stay registered in Ohio, and skip registering in Missouri. Ohio is generally more competitive when it comes to the presidential election, anyhow.

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 8th, 2020, 12:29 pm

Well I guess it was bound to happen

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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 8th, 2020, 3:34 pm

Bernie dropped out

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Post by Dolwphin » April 8th, 2020, 3:45 pm

Bernard "Bernie" Sanders drops out from the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries and caucuses. 1 candidate left.

Joseph "Joe" Biden is the presumptive nominee for the Democratic Party.
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Post by Pretentious Hipster » April 8th, 2020, 3:46 pm

Literally read the previous post :P

I assume this was because America is willing to kill people during a pandemic to keep the votes going. Seems like Bernie cares more about people than most Americans.

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Post by Cippenham » April 8th, 2020, 3:56 pm

Presumably Bernie dropped out and if Biden who is literally insane does not make it to an August convention that might even be virtual they will have to find someone, I wonder who? They may even decide it’s cruel to let poor Joe be the candidate. Is it not a kind of abuse to let him stand? There should be a law against it.
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