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Post by GruesomeTwosome » September 11th, 2019, 6:09 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 6:02 pm
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This is what fascism looks like. :satstunned:
It's like Starship Troopers without the humour.
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » September 11th, 2019, 6:15 pm

Starship Troopers is simultaneously the best act of trolling and the best film on anti-fascism.

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Post by Kublai Khan » September 11th, 2019, 8:11 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 6:15 pm
Starship Troopers is simultaneously the best act of trolling and the best film on anti-fascism.
I dont know. I was in high school when that movie came out. I remember loving it because it was stylish violence. I only got the commentary after taking some film classes and learning how see subtext a little better.

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Post by morrison-dylan-fan » September 12th, 2019, 2:00 am

You can almost hear the crying Benny did whilst writing this Tweet.


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Post by Dolwphin » September 13th, 2019, 12:05 pm

Debate 3: Yang fucking still doesn't wear a tie! And he wears American flag pin on WRONG side of his suit! Castro says Biden's brain is melting, the MSM-crowd goes crazy! The rest as usual; moderators with insane right-wing framing, calls for "unity" and saying Trump is bad, Sanders with the refreshing soc-dem advocacy, Booker pointing out he lives in the PROJECT & Beto speaking Spanish for no good reason.
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Post by xianjiro » September 13th, 2019, 4:08 pm

Dolwphin wrote:
September 13th, 2019, 12:05 pm
Debate 3: Yang fucking still doesn't wear a tie! And he wears American flag pin on WRONG side of his suit! Castro says Biden's brain is melting, the MSM-crowd goes crazy! The rest as usual; moderators with insane right-wing framing, calls for "unity" and saying Trump is bad, Sanders with the refreshing soc-dem advocacy, Booker pointing out he lives in the PROJECT & Beto speaking Spanish for no good reason.
no tie? so what - most of America has gone casual Friday all week long, he comes from an industry famous for making work casual the new business suit (most of the time)

Which lapel did he wear the pin on. If his right (left to viewer), it's not really wrong, it just that when one shakes hands, one is more likely to look at that side of the body. I've known people over the years who do this quite consciously.

Beto is addressing a part of the audience. Also, it's a border thing - we flipped back and forth between the languages all the time. Some things just make more sense in one language or the other; or when one doesn't know the right word, one fakes it. My favorite sentence: El rufe esta leakiando.

Biden. oh well, let's hope primary voters have a clue - or maybe they want someone who sleep his way through office, especially if there's a good running mate. Some little troll keeps going on about Clinton, no?

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Post by Dolwphin » September 13th, 2019, 10:30 pm

Seltzer interviews Bernard Sanders!

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Post by Cippenham » September 15th, 2019, 10:30 am

Interesting take on Trump. Most politicians are on message in public , never say anything out of line but privately lie and backstab each other. Trump is exactly the opposite, he tells lies in public and makes outrageous remarks about others in public. But in private he sticks to his promises and he does what he said he would in his policies. I prefer his style to traditional politics as most politicians do not do what they say and are on message public but in private they are different and cannot be relied upon.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » September 15th, 2019, 12:54 pm

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Post by St. Gloede » September 15th, 2019, 1:05 pm

Good to know the New York Times generally considers getting a penis thurst into your face "harmless fun".

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Post by Cippenham » September 15th, 2019, 1:27 pm

Brett is innocent as not proven guilty . Prove it otherwise in court or keep quiet. I think it’s wrong to condemn people not proven guilty.

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Post by St. Gloede » September 15th, 2019, 1:29 pm

Cippenham wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 1:27 pm
Brett is innocent as not proven guilty . Prove it otherwise in court or keep quiet. I think it’s wrong to condemn people not proven guilty.
No need to lie, Cipp. You constantly spread allegations and conspiracy theories.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » September 15th, 2019, 1:32 pm

Cippenham wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 1:27 pm
Brett is innocent as not proven guilty . Prove it otherwise in court or keep quiet. I think it’s wrong to condemn people not proven guilty.
You can just ignore that. Who cares if it happened or not or even who did it. The fact that this article called it harmless fun and that you don't belong in an ivy league school if you don't wanna be harassed is toxic. Shows how ridiculous new york times is.

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Post by Cippenham » September 15th, 2019, 4:04 pm

Agreeing with Arthur, btw what about bringing that name back? If so you could say I used to be apathetic but I couldn’t be bothered

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » September 15th, 2019, 5:50 pm

Cippenham wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 4:04 pm
Agreeing with Arthur, btw what about bringing that name back? If so you could say I used to be apathetic but I couldn’t be bothered
It's a reference to a video game show I watch.

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Post by sebby » September 16th, 2019, 1:08 am

St. Gloede wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 1:29 pm
Cippenham wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 1:27 pm
Brett is innocent as not proven guilty . Prove it otherwise in court or keep quiet. I think it’s wrong to condemn people not proven guilty.
No need to lie, Cipp. You constantly spread allegations and conspiracy theories.
You'll be recanting those words in 3 years when Lord Emperor Hillary Clinton ushers us into a mini Ice Age powered by the freezing-cold heart of socialism and false rape allegations.

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Post by Kublai Khan » September 16th, 2019, 3:11 am



So, at some point the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will let us know who to attack. This is perfectly fine, right? This is somehow different from a Hillary stupid war because nobody could possibly foresee how ultra-right wing nationalist government won't soon fight wars over resources. :folded:

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Post by Cippenham » September 16th, 2019, 4:23 am

I am not commenting on climate or a potential Clinton standing as candidate again . Wait and see now. I may comment on actual weather in the weather thread or the final actual Democrat candidate. I hope it will be Joe Biden as that would be hilarious.

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Post by Cippenham » September 16th, 2019, 4:29 am

Kublai, it’s Saudi that was attacked without reason. Should they just sit back and accept more attacks on the chin? It’s clear Iran is going to be seen as the attacker of course.

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Post by brokenface » September 16th, 2019, 6:50 am

Dangerous situation. Saudi leadership is not to be trusted. Trump is not to be trusted.

If the net effect of these attacks is oil prices go up and USA attack Iran, the biggest beneficiary of both of these things just happens to be, oh yes, Saudi Arabia.

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Post by Kublai Khan » September 16th, 2019, 8:48 pm

Cippenham wrote:
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Kublai, it’s Saudi that was attacked without reason. Should they just sit back and accept more attacks on the chin? It’s clear Iran is going to be seen as the attacker of course.
No, no. I don't disagree with you there. But Trump is saying that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is setting the terms as to how the US will respond to the attack. That's what I'm recoiling to.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » Yesterday, 3:08 am

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Spoilered it but if you wanna see a huge fucking imbecile take a look. What kind of a immoral psychopath goes against healthcare like that? Then it turns out he's a business owner. Makes total sense. It's funny, he complains about paying because of ACA when he had 84 employees, but within a few years it almost doubled? Funny, it's almost like it actually didn't hurt him that much and he's just crying cause he didn't get as much dividends as he initially wanted.

Really tempted to put this fucker in his place, but it'll be random for a Canadian gaming channel to do that.

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Post by fori » Yesterday, 3:36 am

Man you should cool down. He’s a dick for sure and it’s insane that the US doesn’t have proper healthcare. However, your personal outrage, while warranted, is probably not good for you. It seems like every post I see from you is freaking out about politics or talking about anxiety issues. There A LOT of things to be mad about in the world, but perhaps you should chill out and try to sort yourself first. Worked for me anyway. :think:

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » Yesterday, 3:40 am

fori wrote:
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Man you should cool down. He’s a dick for sure and it’s insane that the US doesn’t have proper healthcare. However, your personal outrage, while warranted, is probably not good for you. It seems like every post I see from you is freaking out about politics or talking about anxiety issues. There A LOT of things to be mad about in the world, but perhaps you should chill out and try to sort yourself first. Worked for me anyway. :think:
I am on disability for my mental illnesses so what did you expect? :P you think that's bad you should see what goes on inside my head.

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Post by Cippenham » Yesterday, 8:29 am

Trump is to be trusted as he has done as he said he would. He will do the right thing.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » Yesterday, 1:45 pm

fori wrote:
Yesterday, 3:36 am
Man you should cool down. He’s a dick for sure and it’s insane that the US doesn’t have proper healthcare. However, your personal outrage, while warranted, is probably not good for you. It seems like every post I see from you is freaking out about politics or talking about anxiety issues. There A LOT of things to be mad about in the world, but perhaps you should chill out and try to sort yourself first. Worked for me anyway. :think:
I ended up having to respond to him because he was still spouting bullshit the next day. Yea I know, I'm obsessive. However, I seriously am considering working in politics at some point in my lifetime, like becoming a representative for the communist party in my district, so practicing debating over stuff like that is great practice.

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Post by matthewscott8 » Yesterday, 2:26 pm

Cippenham wrote:
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It’s not a great ice age but a mini ice age. I also refer you to the work of award winning scientist Dr Rex Fleming.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/07/30 ... y-is-bunk/
You don't believe in awards so why mention this 39 year old award "The Department of Commerce Gold Medal Award (1980) for outstanding achievement in directing U.S. role in Global Weather Experiment (FGGE)". There are literally 100s of award winning scientists on the other side of the argument who you routinely dismiss and whose awards you ignore.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » Yesterday, 3:08 pm

The saudi arabia oil attack has been called the Saudi 9/11 smh. What makes me really suspicious about it is that there were 0 deaths or injuries.

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Post by Cippenham » Yesterday, 5:09 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
Yesterday, 2:26 pm
Cippenham wrote:
September 8th, 2019, 7:22 pm
It’s not a great ice age but a mini ice age. I also refer you to the work of award winning scientist Dr Rex Fleming.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/07/30 ... y-is-bunk/
You don't believe in awards so why mention this 39 year old award "The Department of Commerce Gold Medal Award (1980) for outstanding achievement in directing U.S. role in Global Weather Experiment (FGGE)". There are literally 100s of award winning scientists on the other side of the argument who you routinely dismiss and whose awards you ignore.
I am done on climate comments but may talk about actual weather

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Post by Cippenham » Yesterday, 10:22 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... l-n1055531
President Trump is considering proportionate and reasonable measures to avoid the US directly attracting Iran.

I dread to think what measures an old Democrat warmonger would have done. We are lucky to have such a calm measured careful President. This is how he acts, not talks, that is something different.

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Post by St. Gloede » Yesterday, 11:02 pm

You have consistently been saying he is in no way fit: How can we take what you say seriously, Cipp? You seem to be posting contradictory message to have a fun time (i.e. trolling).

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » Yesterday, 11:18 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
Yesterday, 3:08 am
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Spoilered it but if you wanna see a huge fucking imbecile take a look. What kind of a immoral psychopath goes against healthcare like that? Then it turns out he's a business owner. Makes total sense. It's funny, he complains about paying because of ACA when he had 84 employees, but within a few years it almost doubled? Funny, it's almost like it actually didn't hurt him that much and he's just crying cause he didn't get as much dividends as he initially wanted.

Really tempted to put this fucker in his place, but it'll be random for a Canadian gaming channel to do that.
Did a mini paragraph talking about free healthcare through an economic and tax perspective. All he said was go fuck yourself socialist scum. I guess I won that debate if you could call it that.

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Post by Kublai Khan » Today, 1:52 am

Cippenham wrote:
Yesterday, 10:22 pm
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... l-n1055531
President Trump is considering proportionate and reasonable measures to avoid the US directly attracting Iran.

I dread to think what measures an old Democrat warmonger would have done. We are lucky to have such a calm measured careful President. This is how he acts, not talks, that is something different.
From your article:
Trump's desire for more options comes amid growing confidence by the U.S. intelligence community that Iran was behind Sunday's unprecedented attack on Saudi oil facilities. Some of that intelligence pointing to Iran as the culprit has now been made available to U.S. senators in a classified reading room, senators and their aides said Tuesday.

"I'm, like, 100 percent convinced," Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wis., said after reading the intelligence report. He said the intelligence made available was about three pages long. "It's very brief, which means to me it's pretty cut and dry."
Ugh. US intelligence provides huge dossiers detailing how Russia influenced our elections and Trump/Republicans wave it off. But they produce a 3 page memo and it's justification for war. But yeah, it's the Democrats that are the warmongers.

Why do you keep repeating that Democrats are warmongers anyways? Where does that idea come from? You keep repeating that factoid to imply the Republicans are the party of peace.

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Post by Cippenham » Today, 3:46 am

Trump puts America First so does not want Military intervention unless America directly threatened. But Democrats are globalists so believe in military intervention to support global liberalism, for their own good. Republicans used to be like this too true but not for now, I think Democrats would consider all kinds of wars already or continue hostilities.


https://www.nationofchange.org/2018/08/ ... armongers/

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/11/as- ... publicans/

https://71republic.com/2019/03/02/trump ... armongers/

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/08/d ... war-party/

https://spectator.org/the-real-warmonge ... ashington/


https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-tru ... 1568395347

The last article in particular shows how Trump has made major efforts to secure peace
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Post by Kublai Khan » Today, 3:48 am

So why is Trump considering a strike in Iran for the attack in Saudi Arabia? How is "America directly threatened" by that?

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Post by Cippenham » Today, 3:56 am

Kublai it threatens America directly, their interests with attack on oil supplies, but even so the measures will be a variety not just military and no direct attack by the US on Iran. In that NBC article it states Trump believes Iran wants a deal. He is very reluctant to take military action it says.

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Post by Kublai Khan » Today, 10:48 am

Ah, so any attack on "American interests" is an "attack on America". That sounds exactly like how they've justified any and all foreign military activity throughout history.

And of course Trump thinks everyone wants a deal. He still doesn't realize that "America fucking off from Israel and the region in general" is a major part of of that deal they want.

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Post by Cippenham » Today, 11:35 am

No this will not include direct U S military response

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Post by Kublai Khan » Today, 1:44 pm

But your link described the various types of direct US military responses that Trump was considering...

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