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Question for the vegetarians and vegans: have you had dreams where you accidentally ate non-veg(etari)an stuff? I dreamed about drinking milk last night and I also remember eating cream not long ago. I felt pretty bad about it in both dreams, even though I didn't do it on purpose. :/
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Yeah, I've had a few dreams about eating chicken. One I was just absolutely enjoying every sliver, but others I'm like 'omg what am I doing, this is meat?!'
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Maybe as a nightmare. I don't recall, other than there was something of the vile sort I was doing in a dream once.
This actually was asked in one of the vegan chats Im part of.

Would you come back to eating (more) animal products if your doctor recommended doing that and you would believe it (under the threat of serious health consequences)?
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Lammetje wrote: July 14th, 2020, 1:42 pm Question for the vegetarians and vegans: have you had dreams where you accidentally ate non-veg(etari)an stuff? I dreamed about drinking milk last night and I also remember eating cream not long ago. I felt pretty bad about it in both dreams, even though I didn't do it on purpose. :/
Not for awhile, but I remember having dreams where I ate turkey, which is strange, because I never ate much turkey even before I became vegan. But yes. It's weird. Then I woke up and remembered I don't eat meat and it was just a dream. :think:
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Armoreska wrote: July 14th, 2020, 4:08 pm Maybe as a nightmare. I don't recall, other than there was something of the vile sort I was doing in a dream once.
This actually was asked in one of the vegan chats Im part of.

Would you come back to eating (more) animal products if your doctor recommended doing that and you would believe it (under the threat of serious health consequences)?
Given that doctors know next to nothing about nutrition, no. It's not something they're required to learn much about and yet that won't keep them from pretending to be experts.
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Armoreska wrote: June 22nd, 2020, 8:28 pm That's sad.

But my answer is NO to doing any of the following to improve my life:
eat dead humans
eat poop
rob an orphanage
use and order slave labor

so the equivalent gets the same treatment.

Have you tried supplementation or diet change?
how do you feel about hanging out in an enclosed space with certain forumites talking endless about how masks are killing his freedom? :think:
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xianjiro wrote: July 17th, 2020, 2:51 am how do you feel about hanging out in an enclosed space with certain forumites talking endless about how masks are killing his freedom? :think:
We have worse in Facebook groups.

Anyway, the ignore button works until somebody decides to answer him.
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Armoreska wrote: July 17th, 2020, 6:53 am
xianjiro wrote: July 17th, 2020, 2:51 am how do you feel about hanging out in an enclosed space with certain forumites talking endless about how masks are killing his freedom? :think:
We have worse in Facebook groups.

Anyway, the ignore button works until somebody decides to answer him.
no disagreement on either point - I've stopped using FB, Twitter, and now this about all my "social" media and have also used our ignore button
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Made this Creamy Coconut Curry Lentils with Spinach for dinner tonight. I had to use green lentils and I was simmering for over an hour, but it is soooo good. Had it with the curry carrots, rice and naan suggested in the pic and it was a tasty feed. Looking forward to the next bowl tomorrow night
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I bought some soy milk to try but kept putting it off because I was expecting it to be horrible. Almond milk was disgusting and I don't know if I've tried oat milk, but anyway I decided to finally open it to have with my cereal this morning. It tastes exactly the same as regular milk. It has a slightly sour aftertaste, but otherwise I can't tell the difference. Insane. I had to re-read the container to make sure it actually was vegan. It has more calories than dairy milk, but also slightly more protein. I only use milk with cereal, cooking, and as a source of protein so yea bye dairy milk don't need you no more.

Not really trying to go 'full vegan', but if the vegan choice is just as good then we generally try to switch.
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Soy milk is easily my favorite of the milk replacements... I'm also not crazy about almond milk and some of the others (rice and oat,which made me gag) . I like coconut okay, but it's got too much saturated fat for my body to handle properly.

And, I am virtually (but not 100%) dairy-free right now. I eat animal proteins about 2-3 times monthly since June 3rd, which is when I got the results of my last blood test that was out of whack. But otherwise no animals products at all. I also removed a lot of carbohydrates (mostly the grains and most sugars) except for vegetables which I eat about 5-8 servings of daily.
Just had my blood drawn again yesterday so if this test comes back better I am going to start removing the animal protein again to see what happens...
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Interesting. Keep us posted. Miley Cyrus will not.

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"I've been on and off as a vegan and raw vegan and after a few months I always quit because of brain fog and other terrible side effects. When going back to my old SAD diet, I felt better instantly. But I realize why now, and this is so important; eat enough calories every single day. And eat cooked foods and lots of carbs. I feel normal now as a vegan because of that. The reason it failed every time in the past was because I was eating only half of the calories that I eat today. In the back of my mind I was too focused on rapid weight loss. A SAD diet might feel good then and there, because you eat enough compared to starving yourself. So lots of fruit juices, rice, spaghetti and vegs - finally works for me now :) You guys are right, and Freelee is too, about carb the F*** up :)"
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Armoreska wrote: September 17th, 2020, 5:45 pm Interesting. Keep us posted.
In 3 months my total cholesterol went down 74 pts, LDL down 51 pts. Good news. Now I go back on the experimentation wheel...
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I’ve been using Quorn mince for the last couple of years but I noticed they had a new vegan mince available at my supermarket a while ago. Quorn uses egg as a binding agent so I thought I’d check out the new vegan one. It’s amazing and so tasty. It has this kind of shredded texture and a really meaty flavour and we’ve been obsessed with it for the last month. Idk if it’s available overseas (seems like the company originated in the US) but worth checking out if anyone comes across it: https://www.morningstarfarms.com.au/en_ ... mince.html
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mightysparks wrote: October 14th, 2020, 8:43 am I’ve been using Quorn mince for the last couple of years but I noticed they had a new vegan mince available at my supermarket a while ago. Quorn uses egg as a binding agent so I thought I’d check out the new vegan one. It’s amazing and so tasty. It has this kind of shredded texture and a really meaty flavour and we’ve been obsessed with it for the last month. Idk if it’s available overseas (seems like the company originated in the US) but worth checking out if anyone comes across it: https://www.morningstarfarms.com.au/en_ ... mince.html
I'll definitely check it out, esp since it contains no gluten, at least according to the ingredient list. It has a different name in the States, but I think it's the same product...
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It’s even better than meat mince, it’s ridiculous how delicious it is. Even without sauce it’s yummy. I’ve been getting this vegan/gluten-free/‘healthy’ sauce to have with spaghetti as well: https://celebratehealth.com.au/product/ ... sta-sauce/. I’m not sure if both together have helped the spaghetti bog but it’s like a gourmet meal now. Going to try it with tacos this week as well.
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mightysparks wrote: October 15th, 2020, 10:50 am It’s even better than meat mince, it’s ridiculous how delicious it is. Even without sauce it’s yummy. I’ve been getting this vegan/gluten-free/‘healthy’ sauce to have with spaghetti as well: https://celebratehealth.com.au/product/ ... sta-sauce/. I’m not sure if both together have helped the spaghetti bog but it’s like a gourmet meal now. Going to try it with tacos this week as well.
It looks like a ground/minced version of the Morningstar "grillers", which were burgers that I used to eat years ago. Now they've come out with a ground version apparently. I'll definitely give it a go with my favorite pasta sauce. I don't eat much pasta either, but I found one brand that's a pretty good GF alternative ("Ancient" -something).
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I'm not sure if people will find this useful, because an app version already exists, but I made a checkable version of Dr. Greger's daily dozen: https://checklist.mjf314.repl.co/

It's customizable, so you can change the foods/servings to whatever you want (click the link at the bottom to get a permanent link to your version of the checklist). It'll save your progress, so if you close and re-open it (in the same browser), the same boxes will be checked.
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macadamian milk might be my favourite but is expensive
hazel drink is worth to try too
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Armoreska wrote: March 1st, 2020, 10:08 am
mjf314 wrote: March 1st, 2020, 12:18 am According to this page, "The selenium content of plant foods depends on the selenium content of the soil where the foods were grown." His recommendation is "Vegans in the U.S. and other areas eating a variety of foods including whole grains and beans are likely to get enough selenium. Vegans in low selenium areas should eat Brazil nuts regularly and/or to use a supplement supplying a moderate amount of selenium."

I live in the US and eat a lot of beans and whole grains, so I guess I get enough.
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I only eat sunflower seeds
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Gotta love the recent clean theoretical content/primers on animal ethics on YouTube

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I made this: https://nutrient-sorter.mjf314.repl.co/

You can sort vegan foods by any nutrient - per 100g, per 100 calories, or per serving.

If you click a food, it shows you the nutrients of that food.

You can link to a specific version of the list, using the link at the bottom of the page.

The design is inspired by nutritionlist.org, but mine has a few more features, and includes more nutrients.
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love it! ive had to do this manually earlier.

never heard of nutritionlist either but that list is cursed.
ah its based on raw but yours is cooked

just 9 cooked grains values?

can u get more cooked veggies in there?
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I just added 3 more grains (buckwheat, spelt, and wild rice), so now it's 12 grains (or 13 if you count corn).

I'm not sure if I'll add cooked vegetables. Wouldn't it be redundant to have the same vegetable multiple times? Or does cooking have a big impact on the nutrients?
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not sure but i think you can add Pumpkin raw instead of cooked (if you want to stick to raw)
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Ok, I changed pumpkin to raw (raw pumpkin was missing from NCCDB, but I just noticed that USDA has raw pumpkin, so I added it from there).

I'll leave potatoes as cooked, because as far as I know, hardly anyone eats raw potatoes.
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I noticed your calcium DV is overkill. Certainly no more than 1000 is necessary. I use 800 but actually am happy if I reach 600.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins- ... s/calcium/
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I used the daily values from https://ods.od.nih.gov/HealthInformatio ... alues.aspx

Is NHS more accurate (not just for calcium, but other nutrients as well)? If so, I may consider changing the source.

Edit: I just found https://www.nutrition.org.uk/attachment ... 202019.pdf

I might add these numbers as an option.
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I noticed that NHS is missing several nutrients (B5, vitamin E, vitamin K, manganese, fiber), so I decided to use this source instead (this one lists calcium as 1000 instead of 1300).
https://ods.od.nih.gov/HealthInformatio ... takes.aspx

I also added options for male or female.
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My brother, my father, and I celebrated a joint birthday dinner, and my mother marked the occasion with her famous lamb meatloaf, which is made with roasted pine nuts and a tomato sauce glaze. It was amazing. One of the best meat dishes I've ever had.
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blocho wrote: November 27th, 2020, 1:30 am My brother, my father, and I celebrated a joint birthday dinner, and my mother marked the occasion with her famous lamb meatloaf, which is made with roasted pine nuts and a tomato sauce glaze. It was amazing. One of the best meat dishes I've ever had.
I've never eaten lamb, but that sounds awesome. :cheers:

I had the usual turkey and sides for Thanksgiving. My mom is a hell of a cook, so it was quite a nice meal. Thanks to some smart substitutions, my diabetes didn't cause me to miss out on anything we normally have for the holiday. Even got some pumpkin pie.
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Animal Activist Poses as Smithfield Foods CEO on Fox
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I made Christmas dinner for the first time, since I'm learning how to cook. In a few hours, I'll be having bird corpse cordon bleu. B)
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To weigh in, I was vegan for about three years and still think it's obviously the most ethical option. But...when I started eating meat again I felt so much healthier, I was able to work and exercise for longer feeling less drained, I could retain muscle after working out, and I actually felt full after each meal instead of needing to constantly snack (at the time I was working at a restaurant at where the only vegan option was a bean, rice, and brussel sprout bowl, and I was about ready to collapse at the end of each shift eating that way 5 days a week). I may have just not been monitoring my diet as much as necessary, but unless you have a lot of money and a flexible schedule, I think it's pretty tough on one's budget to sustain a healthy vegan lifestyle, at least in California. And the first time going for a run after eating chicken, I was like damn, that's what running's supposed to feel like! Even my vegan friends said I looked notably healthier after the switch. Many of those same vegans talk about how much healthier and more energetic they feel living vegan compared to when they ate animals, so different strokes for different folks I guess. I still don't eat anything bigger than birds.
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Dinner turned out great. I think I've got real cooking potential. Not gonna become Bobby Flay, but I could be an acceptable home cook.
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This seems to be more a safe space for vegetarians. I thought what A said is stupid but invading this thread with how good your meat meals were is petty as fuck. I'm a meat eater myself but come on.
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You've misunderstood my intentions to quite a large degree. The topic is "Do you eat meat?" not "Vegan Thread." Perhaps the title should be changed to avoid confusion or someone "invading" it with a post that relates to the initial question. I say that in all sincerity and with zero malice. Yes, I made a little joke at someone's expense, but it was not intended to be petty. Aside from the admittedly mocking reference to corpses (because Armoreska is ridiculous in any thread and his politics nauseate me), I was just being like "hey, I did a cool thing and this thread is about meat, so it seems like the appropriate place to put it." I've been here for almost a year now. If I wanted to troll or otherwise disparage people who do not eat meat, wouldn't I have done it sooner?

Rather than reading over 400 previous posts, I was attempting to participate in a thread based on its title, which surely you now understand was a genuine attempt to engage. The question "do you eat meat?" has two possible responses, both of which are equally valid. Safe spaces should be respected, I'm with you there, but aside from reading the entire thread, which I suppose I'm guilty of not taking the time to do on a busy Christmas Day, where was the indication that this is meant to be one? When I posted in this thread once previously, on Thanksgiving, I did not get that impression either.
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