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Africa Challenge (Official, February 2020)

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Post by OldAle1 » February 29th, 2020, 2:20 pm

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1. Atlantique / Atlantics (Mati Diop, 2019, France/SENEGAL/Belgium

2. North African shorts 25+17+23= 65m
a) Brotherhood (Meryam Joobeur, 2018, TUNISIA/Canada/Qatar/Sweden)
b) Nefta Football Club (Yves Piat, 2018, France/TUNISIA/ALGERIA)
c) Yed Ellouh / Wooden Hand (Kaouther Ben Hania, 2013, TUNISIA/France)

3. Who Killed Captain Alex? (Nabwana I.G.G., 2010, UGANDA)
4. Hors la loi / Outside the Law (Rachid Bouchareb, 2010, France/ALGERIA/Belgium/TUNISIA/Italy)
5. Afrique, je te plumerai / Africa, I Will Fleece You (Jean-Marie Téno, 1992, CAMEROON/France/Germany)
6. Toula ou Le génie des eaux / Toula or the Water Spirit (Moustapha Alassane/Anna Soehring, 1974, NIGER/West Germany)
7. Mercenary Fighters (Riki Shelach Nissimoff, 1988, SOUTH AFRICA/United States)
8.-9. SHORTS 9+5+14+13+23+21+40=125m

a) L'ami y'a bon / The Colonial Friend (Rachid Bouchareb, 2004, France/Germany/ALGERIA)
b) Bon voyage, Sim (Moustapha Alassane, 1966, NIGER)
c) Samba le grand (Moustapha Alassane, 1977, NIGER)
d) Kokoa (Moustapha Alassane, 1985*, NIGER)
e) Le jeu / The Game (Abderrahmane Sissako, 1991, Soviet Union/MAURITANIA)
f) Pumzi (Wanuria Kahiu, 2009, SOUTH AFRICA/KENYA)
g) Le damier / The Draughstmen Clash (Balufu Bakupa-Kanyinda, 1996, France/ZAIRE/GABON)

Bouchareb's short b/w animation is related to elements in some of his features - it involves the Thiaroye massacre, a seminal event in the history of the whole continent that appears in many films, most notably Sembene's Camp de Thiaroye. This is a powerful if brief history lesson told primitively but effectively. The three Alassane animations are respectively a VERY simple story about corruption on the part of a leader, a mythical quest narrative, and a boxing match between stop-motion animals - Samba le grand was probably my favorite but none were very good or very bad really. Le jeu contrasts kids playing with toy guns and men playing with real guns fairly effectively. Pumzi is a beautiful 'scope science fiction short about a woman in a far-future post-apocalyptic environment where everybody lives underground finding a viable seed in the outside, and trying - against orders - to take it out into the wastelands and let it sprout and flower. My favorite of this bunch easily, with quite high production values. Le damier is a mostly amusing piece about a President-for-Life who can't find anybody to play checkers (draughts) with and finally meets his match, with inevitable - less comic - results.

10. West Indies (Med Hondo, 1979, France/ALGERIA/MAURITANIA)

I was knocked out by Hondo's first feature Soleil Ô when I saw it as part of this challenge last year, and liked his Sarrounia a lot as well, so this was something I was really looking forward to. The two other features - especially the first - have their difficulties for those not all that knowledgeable about colonial history or Mauritania, but this one is on another level and I really didn't know what I was watching much of the time. Thankfully the frame of the film outside the narrative - the staging, production and music specifically, as this is a theatrical musical of a sort, are all pretty interesting and make this fairly watchable, but I'm not really sure in the end what to think of it. It's a dialogue between the colonialists - both white and black, the slaves and later "free" inhabitants of Martinique (and I think some other colonies/countries), the military, and the French government, over the place of blacks in French and colonial/island/African society over 400 years, told often in music and rhyme, and seeming to flit between particularly historical moments in ways that often perplexed me. I'm not sure what to compare it to or how to go further in explaining or getting at it; in some respects I guess this feels a bit like Peter Watkins, particularly La commune but that's not really saying much. I also watched this too late after driving all day, so there's that, but I think even under the best of situations this would have been a challenge. In any case more proof that Hondo was one of the most original and complicated of African filmmakers, and I look forward to seeing more (when will that be possible?) and returning to this someday armed with more knowledge.

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#162

Post by Cinepolis » February 29th, 2020, 10:20 pm

11. Cabascabo (1969, Niger) - 6/10
An intriguing storyline, but a bland cinematic adaptation.
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1. Mueda, Memoria e Massacre (1981, Mozambique) - 6/10
2. La Vie Est Belle (1987, Zaire/DRC) - 6/10
3. Allah Tantou (1992, Guinea) - 8/10
4. Sarraounia (1986, Mauritania) - 8/10
5. Remparts d'argile (1970, Algeria) - 6/10
6. Touki-Bouki (1973, Senegal) - 7/10
7. Faat Kiné (2000, Senegal) - 7/10
8. Femmes aux yeux ouverts (1994, Togo) - 7/10
9. Gito, i'ingrat (1992, Burundi) - 7.5/10
10. Atlantique (2019, Senegal) - 7/10
11. Cabascabo (1969, Niger) - 6/10

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Post by jdidaco » March 1st, 2020, 5:45 am

Facing some computer issues, have to report this in as simple a way as I can...

31. Ain el ghezal/La fille de Carthage (The Daughter from Carthage, Albert Samama Chikly, 1924) 7.5/10 (18 min) (Tunisia), Les anneaux d'or (Golden Earrings, René Vautier, 1956) 8/10 (18 min) (Tunisia), Le glas (The Bell Rang for the Dead, René Vautier, 1964) 9/10 (4 min) (Zimbabwe), Quem Faz Correr Quim? (Who Makes Quim Run?, Mariano Bartolomeu, 1991) 6/10 (22 min) (Angola) (Total: 62 min)
32. Siliva Zulu: Storia Negra in 5 Parti/Siliva the Zulu (Attilio Gatti & Giuseppe Vitrotti, 1928) 8/10 (South Africa)
33. Zonk! (Hyman Kirstein, 1950) 6/10 (South Africa)
34. Song of Africa (Emil Nofal, 1952) 7.5/10 (South Africa)
35. Contrato carnale/The African Deal (Giorgio Bontempi, 1973) 6.5/10 (Ghana)
36. Mueda, Memória e Massacre (Mueda, Memory and Massacre, Ruy Guerra, 1979) 8.5/10 (RV) (Mozambique)

Thank vou again for hosting, blocho!
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#164

Post by allisoncm » March 1st, 2020, 5:57 am

1. Udju Azul di Yonta / The Blue Eyes of Yonta (1992) 6/10

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » March 1st, 2020, 10:45 am

(Screenshots from 'Sawak al-utubis' and 'Gone Too Far!')

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15. 'Qalbi dalili' / 'My Heart Guides Me' / 1947, Anwar Wagdi / 7.5/10 / Egypt
16. 'La nouba des femmes du mont Chenoua' / 1979, Assia Djebbar / 8.5 or 9/10 / Algeria
17. 'Sawak al-utubis' / 'The Bus Driver' / 1982, Atef El-Taieb / 8.5/10 / Egypt
18. 'Chika: The Rite of Perdition' / 2005, Obinna Onwuekwe / 5.5 or 6/10 / Nigeria
19. 'Man on Ground' / 2011, Akin Omotoso / 5.5/10 / South Africa
20. 'Gone Too Far!' / 2013, Destiny Ekaragha / 6.5/10 / UK | Nigeria
21. 'Mum, Dad, Meet Sam' / 2014, Tony Sebastian Ukpo / 5/10 / Nigeria | UK

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I watched as well two short films - 'Enemy of the Rising Sun' from Obinna Onwuekwe and 'The Sound Man' from Chip Duncan - but they only come to 47 minutes in combined running-time, so not quite enough for another point. I should have remembered to squeeze in another short yesterday...

Thanks for hosting, blocho. I enjoyed the challenge a lot.

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That's all, folks!

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#166

Post by blocho » March 1st, 2020, 1:33 pm

The Africa Challenge is over. Thanks goes out to all participants. Please submit any final February watches in the next 24 hours. I'll probably update with final stats on Monday evening.

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Post by ororama » March 1st, 2020, 8:19 pm

2. Stone Cars (2014) * 14 min. (South Africa)
Selma (2014) * 21 min. (Tunisia)
Zawadi (2015) * 12 min. (Kenya)
Nefta Football Club (2018) * 17 min. (Tunisia)
3. Expectations (2008) * 28 min. (Chad)
Traitors (2011) * 33 min. (Morocco)
4. Dreams of Dust (2006) * 83 min. (Burkina Faso)
5. Angelo (2013) * 9 min. (South Sudan)
Clash of Cultures (2013) * 7 min. (South Sudan)
Decide (2013) * 11 min. (South Sudan)
They Came at Night (2014) * 19 min. (Democratic Republic of the Congo)
I Am Fundi (2015) * 9 min. (Uganda)
Belly Flop (2018) * 5 min. (South Africa)
6. Les Écuelles (1983) * 11 min. (Burkina Faso)
Jonah (2013) * 14 min. (Tanzania)
2064 (2019) * 12 min. (Botswana)
Mwansa the Great (2011) * 23 min. (Zambia)

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1. Pumzi (2009) * 22 min. (Kenya)
Zombies (2019) * 15 min. (Democratic Republic of the Congo)
Brotherhood (2018) * 25 min. (Tunisia)

*First time viewing

I thought I would get in a few more features, but expect to watch a few that I didn't get to in this month's Crime (Tsotsi) and Films Directed by Women (Atlantique, Rafiki, I Am Not a Witch) challenges.

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Post by sebby » March 1st, 2020, 8:53 pm

02 Timbuktu (2014) 4/10 Mauritania

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01 Darwin's Nightmare (2004) 5/10 Not Tanzania
02 Timbuktu (2014) 4/10 Mauritania

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Post by blocho » March 3rd, 2020, 12:29 am

Final Summary

The Africa Challenge is over. Thanks to all participants. It's been a lot of fun to host. For complete results, look in the OP.

Headline Stats
We finished with 20 participants who collectively accumulated a total of 207 points. That works out to a mean score of 10.4 points and a median of 6 points. With a final push, jdidaco won the main challenge with 36 points, followed closely by Mario Gaborovic with 34 points and blueboybob with 26 points.

Bonus Challenge #1: Travel the Continent
Mario and jdidaco tied to win this bonus challenge. Each visited an impressive 24 countries/territories. Sol and ororama tied for third, having visited 12 countries. Ororama notably pulled off this feat despite earning only six points. Overall, participants saw movies from 49 of the 57 eligible countries/territories. South Africa was the most popular country with 23 points. Senegal was next with 20, and Egypt after that with 18 (not including shorts). The following countries/territories went unvisited:
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Benin
CAR
Djibouti
Equatorial Guinea
Mombaka
Nambutu
Sao Tome and Principe
Sierra Leone
Somalia
Wakanda
Western Sahara
And here's a complete breakdown of the visited countries and how many points they got (not including shorts):
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South Africa - 23
Senegal - 20
Egypt - 18
Nigeria - 16
Algeria - 10
Morocco - 9
Zimbabwe - 6
Ivory Coast - 5
Mali - 5
Mauritania - 4
Cameroon - 4
Niger - 4
Ghana - 4
Tunisia - 4
Uganda - 4
Togo - 3
Guinea-Bissau - 3
Kenya - 3
DRC - 3
Chad - 2
Zambia - 2
Mozambique - 2
Ethiopia - 2
Guinea - 2
Liberia - 2
Malawi - 2
Libya - 1
Lesotho - 1
Burkina Faso - 1
Botswana - 1
Sudan - 1
South Sudan - 1
Angola - 1
Burundi - 1
Comoros - 1
Gabon - 1
Eritrea - 1
Eswatini - 1
Cape Verde - 1

Bonus Challenge #2 - Individual Country Champions
Five participants became individual country champions, with RogerTheMovieManiac88 leading the way by winning Nigeria with 11 points. Blueboybob won Egypt with 9 points. Mario Gaborovic was champion of South Africa with 7 points. With 5 points each, jdidaco won Morocco and sol won Zimbabwe.

Years
Participants watched movies ranging from 1916 to 2020. The most popular year was 2017 with 9 movies (not counting shorts). The median year was 1996. In the two previous challenges I hosted (Latin America and Travel the World), the median years were 1998 and 2001, respectively, so participants in this challenge were certainly more willing to watch older movies. Here's the breakdown by decade (again, not counting shorts):
1910s (1 movie)
1920s (1 movie)
1930s (1 movie)
1940s (2 movies)
1950s (5 movies)
1960s (8 movies)
1970s (25 movies)
1980s (28 movies)
1990s (28 movies)
2000s (23 movies)
2010s (63 movies)
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#170

Post by Mario Gaborović » March 3rd, 2020, 12:13 pm

But Mayotte was visited (albeit the film is not on IMDB yet). :(

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Post by sol » March 3rd, 2020, 12:42 pm

Wow, I'm surprised that I'm the only person who visited Burkina Faso since I usually hear it cited as one of the big film producing African nations.

Thanks for the complete stats. Was Who Killed Captain Alex the most watched film this Challenge? Do you have a list of films watched more than once?
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Post by blocho » March 3rd, 2020, 4:49 pm

sol wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 12:42 pm
Thanks for the complete stats. Was Who Killed Captain Alex the most watched film this Challenge? Do you have a list of films watched more than once?
I don't have such a list. But my guess is that Atlantics was the most watched movie.

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#173

Post by Mario Gaborović » March 3rd, 2020, 4:51 pm

Mombaka, Nambutu & Wakanda? What for?

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Post by blocho » March 3rd, 2020, 5:00 pm

Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 4:51 pm
Mombaka, Nambutu & Wakanda? What for?
A little fun. I'm amused when movies make up fake countries.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 3rd, 2020, 5:19 pm

blocho wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 5:00 pm
Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 4:51 pm
Mombaka, Nambutu & Wakanda? What for?
A little fun. I'm amused when movies make up fake countries.
I first think of Malagawi - from Le professionnel (1981) with Belmondo. Something like a crossbreed of Madagascar and Malawi, I guess.

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Post by blocho » March 3rd, 2020, 5:28 pm

Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 5:19 pm
blocho wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 5:00 pm
Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 4:51 pm
Mombaka, Nambutu & Wakanda? What for?
A little fun. I'm amused when movies make up fake countries.
I first think of Malagawi - from Le professionnel (1981) with Belmondo. Something like a crossbreed of Madagascar and Malawi, I guess.
Maybe the next time there's an African Challenge, we'll have a bonus challenge just for movies featuring fictional African countries. We could do the same for the South America challenge as well -- I've long been a fan of San Theodoros from the Tintin comics.

Also, I really want to see Le Professionel now.

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Post by OldAle1 » March 3rd, 2020, 5:31 pm

sol wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 12:42 pm
Wow, I'm surprised that I'm the only person who visited Burkina Faso since I usually hear it cited as one of the big film producing African nations.

Thanks for the complete stats. Was Who Killed Captain Alex the most watched film this Challenge? Do you have a list of films watched more than once?
I've seen 11 films from BF, and have half a dozen more waiting - if I'd had more time for this challenge (or any of them) this past month I'm sure I would have gotten there. Always seems to be the small-country challenges that I want to work on, and it always seems something gets in the way (except for Iran last year).

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Post by blocho » March 5th, 2020, 3:34 pm

One last stat: This challenge has the lowest point total for the winner (36) since Burney won the Samurai challenge in December 2016 with 15 points.

Previous winners of the Africa Challenge:
2018 - Simba63 (61 points)
2016 - knaldskalle (19 points)
2015 - kingink (16 points)
2012 - knaldskalle and Lilarcor (20 points)

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 5th, 2020, 5:56 pm

Once again: why is Mayotte among unvisited countries if I watched Wassi?

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Post by blocho » March 5th, 2020, 9:08 pm

Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 5th, 2020, 5:56 pm
Once again: why is Mayotte among unvisited countries if I watched Wassi?
Mario, I'm happy to change it for you.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 6th, 2020, 12:56 pm

blocho wrote:
March 5th, 2020, 9:08 pm
Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 5th, 2020, 5:56 pm
Once again: why is Mayotte among unvisited countries if I watched Wassi?
Mario, I'm happy to change it for you.
Poor track-keeping indeed. I've seen Gambia and Seychelles as well; just noticed. :lol:

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