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Korean Peninsula Challenge - Official; November 2019

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Post by frbrown » November 19th, 2019, 8:05 am

1. The General's Mustache (1968)

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 19th, 2019, 12:39 pm

10. Mayakwang [ The Drug King] (2018, Min-hoo Woo): 4.5 - A very trite movie about the rise and fall of a criminal drug lord. Overal it is not bad, but it's painfully mediocre it becomes a complete bore. The directing is competent, but very by the numbers; even the stylistic touches it does have, are exactly what to expect from a Scorsese clone. The characters are written so thin, there’s not enough to sustain the 140min running time. Even Kang-ho Song trying his best, couldn’t safe this.
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1. Hwanghae [The Yellow Sea] (2010, Hong-jin Na): 7.2
2. Aknyeo [The Villainess] (2017, Byung-gil Jung): 7.2
3. Revenger (2019, Seung-Won Lee): 7.5 -
4. Inrang [Illang: The Wolf Brigade] (2018, Ji-woon Kim): 5.2
5. Nae yeojachingureul sogae habnida [Windstruck] (2004, Jae-young Kwak) (rewatch): 8.5 > 7.8
6. Sinsegye [New World] (2013, Hoon-jung Park): 6.5
7. Babo seoneon (1983, Jang-ho Lee): 6.2 -
8. Bakjwi [Thirst] (2009, Chan-wook Park): 8.2
9. Akmareul boatda [ I Saw the Devil] (2010, Ji-woon Kim) (rewatch): 9.0 > 8.5

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Post by sol » November 19th, 2019, 3:02 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
November 18th, 2019, 3:28 pm
Another movie we agree on.
Huh - kind of funny how we are watching so many of the same films. :blink: Must be working through the same lists and movie sources or something.
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Post by sol » November 19th, 2019, 3:02 pm

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1. Ta-weo / The Tower (2012) South Korea
2. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003) South Korea
3. Memories of Murder (2003) South Korea
4. The Insect Woman (1972) South Korea
5. The Terror, Live (2013) South Korea
6. The Housemaid (1960) South Korea
7. Fire Woman. (1971) South Korea
8. Sweet Dream (1936) Pre-50s Korea
9. J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000) South Korea
10. Ten Zan - Ultimate Mission (1988) North Korea
11. The Yellow Sea (2010) South Korea
12. I Saw the Devil (2010) South Korea
13. The Red Shoes (2005) South Korea
14. Psychokinesis. (2018) South Korea
15. The Villainess (2017) South Korea

16. Oldboy (2003) South Korea

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As an investigative drama, this thriller falls a little short as he picks up clues and infiltrates organisations with uncanny ease. The eventual solution to the mystery with the bitter ironies at hand is very interesting though, as is the running motif of the film: that discovering the truth is better than simple and easy revenge. The film is very well acted by Min-sik Choi too and superbly edited with split screen shots, reaction shots through mirrors and so on.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 19th, 2019, 3:06 pm

sol wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 3:02 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
November 18th, 2019, 3:28 pm
Another movie we agree on.
Huh - kind of funny how we are watching so many of the same films. :blink: Must be working through the same lists and movie sources or something.
And here I was thinking you were using my reviews as a guide. :lol:

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Post by Traveller » November 19th, 2019, 5:08 pm

44. Yeong-ja in Her Prime (1975) - 6/10
45. Spinning Wheel (1984) - 7/10
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Post by jeroeno » November 19th, 2019, 5:17 pm

30. Tale of Cinema (2005)
31. Nobody's Daughter Haewon (2013)

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Post by blocho » November 19th, 2019, 7:07 pm

5. Burning (2018)
This was based on a Haruki Murakami short story. I haven't read that short story, but I have read plenty of other Murakami works. I first fell in love with his work during college, when I read books like Norwegian Wood, A Wild Sheep Chase, and Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World. And then, several years later, I fell out of love with his work after reading disappointing books like Dance Dance Dance and The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle. The latter was particularly disappointing because it's widely regarded as his best work. I was left wondering whether the change had been in Murakami or in myself. Had the writing that spoke to me when I was 21 lost its appeal when I was 26?

Few of Murakami's works have been adapted to the screen, and it's easy to see why. There's something about his writing that does not lend itself to cinema. This story has many Murakami narrative hallmarks: cats, an apathetic protagonist, a disappearing woman, references to American culture, people trapped in wells, and overlapping mysteries that are both narrative and metaphysical. And I have to give credit to the filmmakers for capturing the feel of a Murakami work, the mixture of the mundane and off-kilter. Unfortunately, I was crushed by boredom. The movie is neatly divided into two 75-minute halves, with a great, hypnotic sequence in the middle that serves as a dividing line. By the time I got to that sequence, though, the tedium of the first half had destroyed any feeling I had for the movie. Interest, though certainly not narrative pace, picks up in the second half.

There's a lot to like here, including a great score, and an enormous wealth of small details that speak to larger social meanings. But nothing could rescue the movie for me. Burning was destined to be adored by critics and a small slice of moviegoers. Yet, I just didn't enjoy watching it.

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Post by 72aicm » November 19th, 2019, 8:16 pm

27. Jukgeona hokeun nabbeugeona / Die Bad (2000)
28. Balambuleo joheun nal / A Windy, But Pleasant Day (1980)
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1. Gipgo puleun bam / The Deep Blue Night (1985)
2. Bam gua nat / Night and Day (2008)
3. Mandala (1981)
4. Hyuil / A Day Off (1968)
5. Gaetmaeul / Seashore Village (1965)
6. Baramnan gajok / A Good Lawyer's Wife (2003)
7. Mimong / Sweet Dream (1936)
8. Ggotip / A Petal (1996)
9. Seopyeonje / Sopyonje (1993)
10. Byeoldeului gohyang / The Stars Heavenly Home (1974)
11. Ggobangdongne saramdeul / People of the Slum (1982)
12. Gilsoddeum / Gilsodom (1986)
13. Bakha satang / Peppermint Candy (1999)
14. Saenghwalui balgyeon / On the Occasion of Remembering the Turning Gate (2002)
15. Sibaji / The Surrogate Woman (1987)
16. Gwilo / The Way Home (1967)
17. Angae / Mist (1967)
18. Kangwon-do ui him / The Power of Kangwon Province (1998)
19. Jayu manse / Hurrah! For Freedom (1946)
20. Obaltan / The Stray Bullet (1961)
21. Woomuk-Baemi ui sarang / Lovers in Woomuk-Baemi (1990)
22. Mabu / The Coachman (1961)
23. Sampoganeun kil / Road to Sampo (1975)
24. Hwanyeo / Fire Woman (1971)
25. Sarangbang sonnimgwa eomeoni / My Mother and Her Guest (1961)
26. Jayu buin / Madame Freedom (1956)
27. Jukgeona hokeun nabbeugeona / Die Bad (2000)
28. Balambuleo joheun nal / A Windy, But Pleasant Day (1980)

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Post by mjf314 » November 20th, 2019, 2:26 am

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1. Page Turner (2016) episode 1
2. Page Turner (2016) episode 2
3. Page Turner (2016) episode 3
4. Missing Noir M (2015) episode 1
My Mister (2018) first 35 minutes (not counting it as an entry)
5. White Christmas (2011) episode 1
6. Little Forest (2018)
7. Healer (2014) episode 1
8. Healer (2014) episode 2
9. Healer (2014) episode 3

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Post by Daviddoes » November 20th, 2019, 12:54 pm

7. Ah-ga-ssi/ The Handmaiden (2016) (REWATCH) 9/10

8. Flandersui gae/ Barking Dogs Never Bite (2000) 6/10

9. Gongdong gyeongbi guyeok JSA/ J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000) 6/10

10. Geuddae geusaramdeul/ The President's Last Bang (2005) 6.5/10
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1. Choyonghan kajok (1998) (The Quiet Family) 6.5/10
2. Geomi sup (2004) (Spider Forest) 4/10
3. Yeogo goedam (1998) (Whispering Corridors) 6/10
4.Obaltan/ The Stray Bullet (1961) 6/10
5. Tamjung Hong Gil-dong: Sarajin Ma-eul/ Phantom Detective (2016) 7/10
6. Boksuneun naui geot/ Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (2002) 7/10
7. Ah-ga-ssi/ The Handmaiden (2016) (REWATCH) 9/10
8. Flandersui gae/ Barking Dogs Never Bite (2000) 6/10
9. Gongdong gyeongbi guyeok JSA/ J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000) 6/10
10. Geuddae geusaramdeul/ The President's Last Bang (2005) 6.5/10

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Post by sol » November 20th, 2019, 2:53 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 3:06 pm
sol wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 3:02 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
November 18th, 2019, 3:28 pm
Another movie we agree on.
Huh - kind of funny how we are watching so many of the same films. :blink: Must be working through the same lists and movie sources or something.
And here I was thinking you were using my reviews as a guide. :lol:
The vast majority of my viewings for every challenge (not just this one) are researched and predetermined before the month even begins. I do sometimes add things to my watch-list based on the recommendations of others though, and sometimes change movie watching priorities (I have moved Burning towards the bottom of my queue after blocho's comments) but both The Yellow Sea and The Villainess were films that I had already planned to watch this month. I will, however, say that had your comments been as middling as blocho on Burning, I might have re-prioritised them too, so I guess in a way I am still using you (and others) as a guide...
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Post by sol » November 20th, 2019, 2:54 pm

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1. Ta-weo / The Tower (2012) South Korea
2. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003) South Korea
3. Memories of Murder (2003) South Korea
4. The Insect Woman (1972) South Korea
5. The Terror, Live (2013) South Korea
6. The Housemaid (1960) South Korea
7. Fire Woman. (1971) South Korea
8. Sweet Dream (1936) Pre-50s Korea
9. J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000) South Korea
10. Ten Zan - Ultimate Mission (1988) North Korea
11. The Yellow Sea (2010) South Korea
12. I Saw the Devil (2010) South Korea
13. The Red Shoes (2005) South Korea
14. Psychokinesis. (2018) South Korea
15. The Villainess (2017) South Korea
16. Oldboy (2003) South Korea

17. Mandala (1981) South Korea

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The natural landscapes of South Korea are beautiful here, and from mobile camerawork to close-ups of candle flames, this is a pretty good-looking film. As a narrative though, this fell a little short for me. The cutting between flashbacks and deep conversations struck me as repetitive, and clocking in at close to two hours, I found it more ponderous than meditative. The insight into Buddhist culture is certainly interesting; two hours is just a bit much.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 20th, 2019, 3:08 pm

sol wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 2:53 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 3:06 pm
sol wrote:
November 19th, 2019, 3:02 pm
Huh - kind of funny how we are watching so many of the same films. :blink: Must be working through the same lists and movie sources or something.
And here I was thinking you were using my reviews as a guide. :lol:
The vast majority of my viewings for every challenge (not just this one) are researched and predetermined before the month even begins. I do sometimes add things to my watch-list based on the recommendations of others though, and sometimes change movie watching priorities (I have moved Burning towards the bottom of my queue after blocho's comments) but both The Yellow Sea and The Villainess were films that I had already planned to watch this month. I will, however, say that had your comments been as middling as blocho on Burning, I might have re-prioritised them too, so I guess in a way I am still using you (and others) as a guide...
I was joking ;) I knew it was just a coincidence. I also map out most of my screenings beforehand, buying the necessary blu-rays before the month starts.

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Post by blocho » November 20th, 2019, 3:38 pm

sol wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 2:53 pm
I do sometimes add things to my watch-list based on the recommendations of others though, and sometimes change movie watching priorities (I have moved Burning towards the bottom of my queue after blocho's comments)
I'm flattered that my comments influence your choices on movies, but I have to confess that I've been rethinking my feelings about Burning. It's been about 48 hours since I finished it, and the movie has stayed in my thoughts, which I've found is sometimes a better test of how I feel about a movie than my initial reaction. A few of the things I've been pondering over the past two days:
- how carefully constructed the movie is in terms of directorial and cinematographic choices (framing, scoring, focus pulls, etc.)
- Steven Yeun's performance, which is so finely balanced between exquisite politeness and menace that it feels impossible to tell the two apart
- The thematic depth of the movie, which includes references to class, gender, family, the rural/urban divide, and South Korea's place in the world. Not to mention the psychological implications: memory, desire, etc.

And yet, I still stand by my initial reaction that the first half was enormously boring and off-putting. I feel very divided, and I'd love to know what other people thought of Burning.

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Post by OldAle1 » November 20th, 2019, 3:41 pm

Better late than never...am going to try to get to 10, but it'll be iffy. First three...

1. Ajeossi / The Man From Nowhere (Jeong-Beom Lee, 2010)

Listed as "neo noir" on IMDb. While the opening shot - a cigarette being lit in the darkness - is certainly redolent of noir style, I'm not so sure about the film as a whole. Yes, we have a man caught in a noir-like labyrinth of crime and intrigue, but in this case the man is a near-superhuman special forces dude and the way the film plays out is closer to the typical revenge drama that is so prevalent in Korean, and hell, most national cinemas it seems since the 1970s. Still it's reasonably involving, and while there's a fair amount of action, it's mostly rather subdued until a big set-piece near the end. Basic story is about a bunch of dealers in drugs and organs - often taken from living victims - getting on the wrong side of our hero when they abduct his neighbor and her young child, and him going against them and police who of course don't know who he is because he is (of course) living as a low-rent pawnshop owner in his retirement from his former life of action and violence. Really, is that what cops and special agents do? Anyway, it's all right, with just a minimum of the typical melodrama, and not really overlong at just under 2 hours.

2. Gisaengchung / Parasite (Bong Joon Ho, 2019) (cinema)

This tale of a family (mom, dad, teen-aged or 20something son & daughter) of bottom-dwellers (literally: they live in the lowest area of the city, presumably Seoul but unstated as far as I recall) moving on up into service for a rich family through schemes, subterfuge and fraud has some broad similarities to a couple of other highly-regarded "eat the rich" stories of the last few years - Manbiki kazoku and Joker in particular but also the less-seen Beatriz at Dinner. While it's good to see more films from wealthy countries (poor countries always make these kinds of films) involving class conflicts and wealth disparity make it to the "mainstream" on some level, I've had mixed feelings about all of these apart from Manbiki kazoku and this one is perhaps the most frustrating, if also one of the better ones overall, at least as cinematic entertainment. The first half or so is excellent - not necessarily anything new or exciting, but just a very nicely done story of a bunch of smart but desperate and poor people preying on the naivete and carelessness of a rich family. But as things move towards a climax, and certain revelations come to the fore, the film seems to me to, as is often the case, imply that only violence or other extreme measures can change society, and that in a sense it doesn't matter what this particular rich family has done to get where they are - they're all the same. It would have been nice IMO to have seen this go in a different - less violent, more subtle and nuanced and cooperative rather than confrontational - direction, but perhaps that wouldn't sell tickets and perhaps not enough people even believe it's possible at this point. There is one bit of dialogue with one of the new servant-family suggesting such a thing as regards the previous servant who has become an important plot element, that points in this direction, but it never comes to fruition. And the metaphors of upper and lower, basement/gully and main floor/hilltop are massively overused and obvious. Still, the performances are all really good - I especially liked So-dam Park as cynical would-be artist and art therapist Ki-jung - and it's never dull. I suspect the "shocking" and intense ending are responsible for this film's ridiculous ratings on IMDb and elsewhere, shades of Oldboy and for that matter Joker. Sigh.

3. Cheongchun / Plum Blossom (Ji-kyoon Kwak, 2000)

The only film from Doona Bae's first decade in film that I hadn't seen, and I definitely didn't save the best for last, as this is a totally lame and dull melodrama about a couple of boys finishing high school and starting college (a couple of years go by) and their efforts to lose their virginity and perhaps find true love. Siu-in, the more sensitive kid, falls hopelessly in love with a teacher in high school and though he tries to forget her with other women, can't - if you've seen a lot of Korean cinema of this type you may guess where his trajectory will lead him, while Ja-hyo is more overtly macho and aggressive but finds his cynical sex-yes love-no exterior cracking when he meets nurse Nam-ok (Doona Bae). Nothing will surprise most people here, (apart from a larger amount of nudity than I expected for this kind of film from S Korea) and I found both guys pretty tiresome, but Bae is just great as usual, and brings real life and fun into this whenever she's on screen. Have to say that Bae is right up there with Emma Stone for me in that she always, or nearly always, makes anything worth watching - but unfortunately both have pretty mediocre filmographies apart from just a couple of all-time favorites.

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Post by Traveller » November 20th, 2019, 5:20 pm

46. Ticket (1986) - 6/10
47. Piagol (1955) - 7/10
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Post by Knaldskalle » November 20th, 2019, 7:23 pm

15. Shiri (Je-kyu Kang, 1999). Okay action-thriller. I think its inclusion on the Korean 100 list is mostly due to its using the idea of Korean Reunification as pretext for its plot.

16. A Petal (Sun-woo Jang, 1996). This was pretty hard to watch. Seeing a 15-16 year old girl repeatedly raped and abused is not exactly fun, nor is it fun to witness her severe mental breakdown after what she went through. I dunno, I wasn't expecting something as visceral as this from this list, but it's a good movie.

This gave me gold on the 100 Korean Films list.

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1. Crossroads of Youth (aka. Turning Point of Youngsters) (Jong-hwa Ahn, 1934) BONUS CHALLENGE #1
2. Pursuit of Death (Kwon-taek Im, 1980)
3. Homeless Angels (aka. Angels of the Street) (In-kyu Cho'e, 1941) BONUS CHALLENGE #1
4. Burying Old Alive (Ki-young Kim, 1963)
5. Fisherman's Fire (Shimazu & Ahn, 1938) BONUS CHALLENGE #1
6. The DMZ (Sang-ho Park, 1965)
7. Black Hair (Lee Man-Hee, 1964)
8. Mandala (Kwon-taek Im, 1981)
9. The Ball shot by a Midget (Won-se Lee, 1981)
10. Public Enemy (Woo-suk Kang, 2002)
11. Spinning the Tales of Cruelty Towards Women (Doo-yong Lee, 1984).
12. The Surrogate Woman (Kown-taek Im, 1987)
13. Lovers in Woomuk-Baemi (aka. A Short Love Affair) (Sun-woo Jang, 1990).
14. Our Twisted Hero (Park Chong-won, 1992).
15. Shiri (Je-kyu Kang, 1999)
16. A Petal (Sun-woo Jang, 1996)
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Post by 72aicm » November 20th, 2019, 9:30 pm

29. Gyeolhon iyagi / Marriage Story (1992)
30. Jigureul jikyeora! / Save the Green Planet! (2003)
31. Kim yakgukjib daldeul / The Daughters of Kim's Pharmacy (1963)
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1. Gipgo puleun bam / The Deep Blue Night (1985)
2. Bam gua nat / Night and Day (2008)
3. Mandala (1981)
4. Hyuil / A Day Off (1968)
5. Gaetmaeul / Seashore Village (1965)
6. Baramnan gajok / A Good Lawyer's Wife (2003)
7. Mimong / Sweet Dream (1936)
8. Ggotip / A Petal (1996)
9. Seopyeonje / Sopyonje (1993)
10. Byeoldeului gohyang / The Stars Heavenly Home (1974)
11. Ggobangdongne saramdeul / People of the Slum (1982)
12. Gilsoddeum / Gilsodom (1986)
13. Bakha satang / Peppermint Candy (1999)
14. Saenghwalui balgyeon / On the Occasion of Remembering the Turning Gate (2002)
15. Sibaji / The Surrogate Woman (1987)
16. Gwilo / The Way Home (1967)
17. Angae / Mist (1967)
18. Kangwon-do ui him / The Power of Kangwon Province (1998)
19. Jayu manse / Hurrah! For Freedom (1946)
20. Obaltan / The Stray Bullet (1961)
21. Woomuk-Baemi ui sarang / Lovers in Woomuk-Baemi (1990)
22. Mabu / The Coachman (1961)
23. Sampoganeun kil / Road to Sampo (1975)
24. Hwanyeo / Fire Woman (1971)
25. Sarangbang sonnimgwa eomeoni / My Mother and Her Guest (1961)
26. Jayu buin / Madame Freedom (1956)
27. Jukgeona hokeun nabbeugeona / Die Bad (2000)
28. Balambuleo joheun nal / A Windy, But Pleasant Day (1980)
29. Gyeolhon iyagi / Marriage Story (1992)
30. Jigureul jikyeora! / Save the Green Planet! (2003)
31. Kim yakgukjib daldeul / The Daughters of Kim's Pharmacy (1963)

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Post by ororama » November 21st, 2019, 12:11 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 3:41 pm

2. Gisaengchung / Parasite (Bong Joon Ho, 2019) (cinema)

This tale of a family (mom, dad, teen-aged or 20something son & daughter) of bottom-dwellers (literally: they live in the lowest area of the city, presumably Seoul but unstated as far as I recall) moving on up into service for a rich family through schemes, subterfuge and fraud has some broad similarities to a couple of other highly-regarded "eat the rich" stories of the last few years - Manbiki kazoku and Joker in particular but also the less-seen Beatriz at Dinner. While it's good to see more films from wealthy countries (poor countries always make these kinds of films) involving class conflicts and wealth disparity make it to the "mainstream" on some level, I've had mixed feelings about all of these apart from Manbiki kazoku and this one is perhaps the most frustrating, if also one of the better ones overall, at least as cinematic entertainment. The first half or so is excellent - not necessarily anything new or exciting, but just a very nicely done story of a bunch of smart but desperate and poor people preying on the naivete and carelessness of a rich family. But as things move towards a climax, and certain revelations come to the fore, the film seems to me to, as is often the case, imply that only violence or other extreme measures can change society, and that in a sense it doesn't matter what this particular rich family has done to get where they are - they're all the same. It would have been nice IMO to have seen this go in a different - less violent, more subtle and nuanced and cooperative rather than confrontational - direction, but perhaps that wouldn't sell tickets and perhaps not enough people even believe it's possible at this point. There is one bit of dialogue with one of the new servant-family suggesting such a thing as regards the previous servant who has become an important plot element, that points in this direction, but it never comes to fruition. And the metaphors of upper and lower, basement/gully and main floor/hilltop are massively overused and obvious. Still, the performances are all really good - I especially liked So-dam Park as cynical would-be artist and art therapist Ki-jung - and it's never dull. I suspect the "shocking" and intense ending are responsible for this film's ridiculous ratings on IMDb and elsewhere, shades of Oldboy and for that matter Joker. Sigh.
The high/low is more than just a metaphor. This is the literal truth throughout the world. The richest choose the best and safest places to live, and the poorest live where ever they can, including places like the dump in Manila. I think the US is unique in having quite a few rich people living in dangerous places like fire zones and on the beach, but when their mansions burn or slide into the ocean, their government-subsidized insurance pays for them to rebuild on the same property.

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Post by ororama » November 21st, 2019, 12:28 pm

11. Piano: Episode #1.15 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)
12. Piano: Episode #1.16 (2002) * 63 min. (South Korea)

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1. GisaengchungParasite (2019) * 132 min. (South Korea)
2. Piano: Episode #1.9 (2001) 63 min. (South Korea)
3. Piano: Episode #1.10 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
4. Swiri (1999) * 125 min. (South Korea)
5. Piano: Episode #1.11 (2001) 65 min. (South Korea)
6. Piano: Episode #1.12 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
7. Bakha satang/ Peppermint Candy (1999) * 130 min. (South Korea)
8. Ju No-myeong Bakery/ Love Bakery (2000) * 106 min. (South Korea)
9. Piano: Episode #1.13 (2002) * 64 min. (South Korea)
10. Piano: Episode #1.14 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)

*First time viewing

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Post by sol » November 21st, 2019, 1:53 pm

blocho wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 3:38 pm
sol wrote:
November 20th, 2019, 2:53 pm
I do sometimes add things to my watch-list based on the recommendations of others though, and sometimes change movie watching priorities (I have moved Burning towards the bottom of my queue after blocho's comments)
I'm flattered that my comments influence your choices on movies, but I have to confess that I've been rethinking my feelings about Burning.

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And yet, I still stand by my initial reaction that the first half was enormously boring and off-putting. I feel very divided, and I'd love to know what other people thought of Burning.
It's okay. I am not procrastinating seeing the movie altogether, but I feel like I have already seen my fair share of boring and overlong Korean films this month, and I have decided that I would rather spend the last week and half of the month watching shorter films that look more like to jive with my sensibilities. ;)
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Post by sol » November 21st, 2019, 1:54 pm

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1. Ta-weo / The Tower (2012) South Korea
2. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003) South Korea
3. Memories of Murder (2003) South Korea
4. The Insect Woman (1972) South Korea
5. The Terror, Live (2013) South Korea
6. The Housemaid (1960) South Korea
7. Fire Woman. (1971) South Korea
8. Sweet Dream (1936) Pre-50s Korea
9. J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000) South Korea
10. Ten Zan - Ultimate Mission (1988) North Korea
11. The Yellow Sea (2010) South Korea
12. I Saw the Devil (2010) South Korea
13. The Red Shoes (2005) South Korea
14. Psychokinesis. (2018) South Korea
15. The Villainess (2017) South Korea
16. Oldboy (2003) South Korea
17. Mandala (1981) South Korea

18. Bedevilled (2010) South Korea

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This thriller gets off to an awkward start, opening with a rape that the protagonist witnesses, only to shift tones as she gets stressed out at work and then shift tones again as she arrives at a secluded island, but several of the island scenes are well done with uncertainty and ambiguity regarding possible statutory rape and heartfelt cathartic violence. The film does not have anywhere to go after this though and ultimately feels a little messy.
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Post by Traveller » November 21st, 2019, 5:15 pm

48. The Demilitarized Zone (1965) - 7/10
49. Winter Woman (1977) - 6/10
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Post by Knaldskalle » November 22nd, 2019, 4:59 am

Alright, time for something a little different:

17. A Traffic Controller on Crossroads (Phyo Kwang, 1986). When a North Korean woman becomes a traffic cop she really becomes a traffic cop! Thinking nothing of her own safety she bravely weathers rain and cold in the middle of the road, making people obey the rules, in order to keep everybody safe! It even extends to her social life, where she encourages a female friend to get married because her boyfriend, a chauffeur, has been moody lately and that might just lead to an accident! Safety, people, safety! I can only dream of such dedication in traffic cops here in the decadent West. This PSA was brought to you by the government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea! BONUS CHALLENGE #2

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1. Crossroads of Youth (aka. Turning Point of Youngsters) (Jong-hwa Ahn, 1934) BONUS CHALLENGE #1
2. Pursuit of Death (Kwon-taek Im, 1980)
3. Homeless Angels (aka. Angels of the Street) (In-kyu Cho'e, 1941) BONUS CHALLENGE #1
4. Burying Old Alive (Ki-young Kim, 1963)
5. Fisherman's Fire (Shimazu & Ahn, 1938) BONUS CHALLENGE #1
6. The DMZ (Sang-ho Park, 1965)
7. Black Hair (Lee Man-Hee, 1964)
8. Mandala (Kwon-taek Im, 1981)
9. The Ball shot by a Midget (Won-se Lee, 1981)
10. Public Enemy (Woo-suk Kang, 2002)
11. Spinning the Tales of Cruelty Towards Women (Doo-yong Lee, 1984).
12. The Surrogate Woman (Kown-taek Im, 1987)
13. Lovers in Woomuk-Baemi (aka. A Short Love Affair) (Sun-woo Jang, 1990).
14. Our Twisted Hero (Park Chong-won, 1992).
15. Shiri (Je-kyu Kang, 1999)
16. A Petal (Sun-woo Jang, 1996)
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Post by ororama » November 22nd, 2019, 12:34 pm

13. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.1 (1999) * 57 min. (South Korea)

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1. GisaengchungParasite (2019) * 132 min. (South Korea)
2. Piano: Episode #1.9 (2001) 63 min. (South Korea)
3. Piano: Episode #1.10 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
4. Swiri (1999) * 125 min. (South Korea)
5. Piano: Episode #1.11 (2001) 65 min. (South Korea)
6. Piano: Episode #1.12 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
7. Bakha satang/ Peppermint Candy (1999) * 130 min. (South Korea)
8. Ju No-myeong Bakery/ Love Bakery (2000) * 106 min. (South Korea)
9. Piano: Episode #1.13 (2002) * 64 min. (South Korea)
10. Piano: Episode #1.14 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)
11. Piano: Episode #1.15 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)
12. Piano: Episode #1.16 (2002) * 63 min. (South Korea)

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Post by sol » November 22nd, 2019, 4:17 pm

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1. Ta-weo / The Tower (2012) South Korea
2. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003) South Korea
3. Memories of Murder (2003) South Korea
4. The Insect Woman (1972) South Korea
5. The Terror, Live (2013) South Korea
6. The Housemaid (1960) South Korea
7. Fire Woman. (1971) South Korea
8. Sweet Dream (1936) Pre-50s Korea
9. J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000) South Korea
10. Ten Zan - Ultimate Mission (1988) North Korea
11. The Yellow Sea (2010) South Korea
12. I Saw the Devil (2010) South Korea
13. The Red Shoes (2005) South Korea
14. Psychokinesis. (2018) South Korea
15. The Villainess (2017) South Korea
16. Oldboy (2003) South Korea
17. Mandala (1981) South Korea
18. Bedevilled (2010) South Korea

19. Ggotip / A Petal (1996) South Korea

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A confronting South Korean drama, inspired by an actual massacre that took place in 1980, this film seamlessly blends in archive footage from the event with flashbacks experienced by the female protagonist, and with horrific animated sequences and ghastly ghosts aboard nighttime trains in the mix (see above), the movie often feels like a living, breathing nightmare as it vividly depicts her fractured mental state and post-traumatic stress.

P.S.: We'll see how I feel in the morning, but I don't know if I will get around to posting a Weekly Stats update this week. :unsure:
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Post by Traveller » November 22nd, 2019, 5:08 pm

50. Battle Ground 625 (2005) - 8/10
51. White Badge (1992) - 6/10
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Post by 72aicm » November 22nd, 2019, 11:54 pm

32. Daijiga umule pajinnal / The Day a Pig Fell Into the Well (1996)
33. Hwabun / The Pollen of Flowers (1972)
34. Maeumui gohyang / A Hometown in Heart (1949)
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1. Gipgo puleun bam / The Deep Blue Night (1985)
2. Bam gua nat / Night and Day (2008)
3. Mandala (1981)
4. Hyuil / A Day Off (1968)
5. Gaetmaeul / Seashore Village (1965)
6. Baramnan gajok / A Good Lawyer's Wife (2003)
7. Mimong / Sweet Dream (1936)
8. Ggotip / A Petal (1996)
9. Seopyeonje / Sopyonje (1993)
10. Byeoldeului gohyang / The Stars Heavenly Home (1974)
11. Ggobangdongne saramdeul / People of the Slum (1982)
12. Gilsoddeum / Gilsodom (1986)
13. Bakha satang / Peppermint Candy (1999)
14. Saenghwalui balgyeon / On the Occasion of Remembering the Turning Gate (2002)
15. Sibaji / The Surrogate Woman (1987)
16. Gwilo / The Way Home (1967)
17. Angae / Mist (1967)
18. Kangwon-do ui him / The Power of Kangwon Province (1998)
19. Jayu manse / Hurrah! For Freedom (1946)
20. Obaltan / The Stray Bullet (1961)
21. Woomuk-Baemi ui sarang / Lovers in Woomuk-Baemi (1990)
22. Mabu / The Coachman (1961)
23. Sampoganeun kil / Road to Sampo (1975)
24. Hwanyeo / Fire Woman (1971)
25. Sarangbang sonnimgwa eomeoni / My Mother and Her Guest (1961)
26. Jayu buin / Madame Freedom (1956)
27. Jukgeona hokeun nabbeugeona / Die Bad (2000)
28. Balambuleo joheun nal / A Windy, But Pleasant Day (1980)
29. Gyeolhon iyagi / Marriage Story (1992)
30. Jigureul jikyeora! / Save the Green Planet! (2003)
31. Kim yakgukjib daldeul / The Daughters of Kim's Pharmacy (1963)
32. Daijiga umule pajinnal / The Day a Pig Fell Into the Well (1996)
33. Hwabun / The Pollen of Flowers (1972)
34. Maeumui gohyang / A Hometown in Heart (1949)

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Post by sol » November 23rd, 2019, 2:48 am

Week 3 Update

These stats are accurate as of post #189. Click here for Week 1 stats and here for Week 2 stats.

After three weeks, we have had 25 participants (+3 from last week) in the Korean Peninsula Challenge and we have collectively watched 226 films, excluding shorts and miniseries. Trav has continued to hold strong as leader of the Challenge, while 72a has taken over Jeroeno for second place. Nobody else has seen more than 20 films.

In the Bonus Challenges, Knaldskalle is still winning pre-1950s Korea with 3 films, while blocho, Knalds, Trav and Sol are all winning North Korea with one single film.

Films watched have ranged from 1934 to 2019.

The most recent year with no watches is still 2007. Not much great happening in Korean cinema that year? :shrug:

Much of pre-1960s Korean cinema is considered to be lost. The least recent post-1960 year with no watches is still 1973. Huh. :blink:

Most watched genres: Drama (132); Action (34); Thriller (31); and Romance (21).

Least watched genres: Musical (1); Western (1); Family (1); Music (1) and whole bunch with only 2 watches (no change from last week).

Films watched more than once (listed chronologically):

3 - Mimong / Sweet Dream (1936)
3 - Angae / Mist (1967)
3 - Hwanyeo / Fire Woman (1971)
3 - Chungyo / Insect Woman (1972)
3 - Mandala (1981)
3 - Ggotip / A Petal (1996)
3 - Daijiga umule pajinnal / The Day a Pig Fell Into the Well (1996)
3 - Gongdong gyeongbi guyeok JSA / Joint Security Area JSA (2000)
3 - Saenghwalui balgyeon / On the Occasion of Remembering the Turning Gate (2002)
3 - Ang-ma-reul bo-at-da / I Saw the Devil (2010)
3 - Mil-jeong / The Age of Shadows (2016)
3 - Aknyeo / The Villainess (2017)
3 - Gisaengchung / Parasite (2019)

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2 - Obaltan (1961)
2 - Dumanganga jal itgeola (1962)
2 - Kim yakgukjib daldeul (1963)
2 - Gaetmaeul (1965)
2 - Bimujang jidae (1965)
2 - Byeoldeului gohyang (1974)
2 - Jokbo (1979)
2 - Babo seoneon (1983)
2 - Yeoin janhoksa moulleya moulleya (1984)
2 - Golae sanyang (1984)
2 - Pulgasari (1985)
2 - Sibaji (1987)
2 - Woomuk-Baemi ui sarang (1990)
2 - Gyeolhon iyagi (1992)
2 - Urideului ilgeuleojin yeongung (1992)
2 - Eunhaengnamoo chimdae (1996)
2 - Kangwon-do ui him (1998)
2 - Yeogo goedam (1998)
2 - Swiri (1999)
2 - Bakha satang (1999)
2 - Seom (2000)
2 - Boksuneun naui geot (2002)
2 - Geuddae geusaramdeul (2005)
2 - Dalkomhan insaeng (2005)
2 - Wang-ui namja (2005)
2 - Hwanghae (2010)
2 - Snowpiercer (2013)
2 - Busanhaeng (2016)
2 - Ah-ga-ssi (2016)
2 - La caméra de Claire (2017)
2 - Inrang (2018)

I probably won't do a Week 4 Fun Stats but rather add something statsy to the final results instead.
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Post by maxwelldeux » November 23rd, 2019, 6:24 am

sol wrote:
November 23rd, 2019, 2:48 am
Week 3 Update

These stats are accurate as of post #189. Click here for Week 1 stats and here for Week 2 stats.

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I probably won't do a Week 4 Fun Stats but rather add something statsy to the final results instead.
Minor thing, but I love the culture y'all challenge hosts are creating around reporting the "accurate as of post XXX" thing in your stats updates. I'm going to incorporate that next time I host.

And yeah - that's why I only do a final stats update, not a week 4 one. No sense posting stats so close to the end and either a) having to repost updates a couple days later, or b) having them frustratingly out of date when the challenge ends and there aren't final stats.

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Post by Traveller » November 23rd, 2019, 7:17 am

52. The General's Mustache (1968) - 7/10
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Post by shugs » November 23rd, 2019, 9:19 am

4. Hwanghae [The Yellow Sea] (Hong-jin Na, 2010) - 7/10
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1. Busanhaeng [Train to Busan] (Sang-ho Yeon, 2016) - 7/10
2. Snowpiercer (Bong Joon Ho, 2013) - 7/10
3. Ah-ga-ssi [The Handmaiden] (Chan-wook Park, 2016) - 8/10

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Post by ororama » November 23rd, 2019, 12:24 pm

14. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.2 (1999) * 60 min. (South Korea)
15. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.3 (1999) * 59 min. (South Korea)

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1. GisaengchungParasite (2019) * 132 min. (South Korea)
2. Piano: Episode #1.9 (2001) 63 min. (South Korea)
3. Piano: Episode #1.10 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
4. Swiri (1999) * 125 min. (South Korea)
5. Piano: Episode #1.11 (2001) 65 min. (South Korea)
6. Piano: Episode #1.12 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
7. Bakha satang/ Peppermint Candy (1999) * 130 min. (South Korea)
8. Ju No-myeong Bakery/ Love Bakery (2000) * 106 min. (South Korea)
9. Piano: Episode #1.13 (2002) * 64 min. (South Korea)
10. Piano: Episode #1.14 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)
11. Piano: Episode #1.15 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)
12. Piano: Episode #1.16 (2002) * 63 min. (South Korea)
13. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.1 (1999) * 57 min. (South Korea)

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Post by Traveller » November 23rd, 2019, 5:23 pm

53. General's Son (1990) - 7/10
54. Memento Mori (1999) - 6/10
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Post by OldAle1 » November 23rd, 2019, 8:06 pm

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1. Ajeossi / The Man From Nowhere (Lee Jeong-Beom, 2010)
2. Gisaengchung / Parasite (Bong Joon Ho, 2019) (cinema)
3. Cheongchun / Plum Blossom (Kwak Ji-kyoon, 2000)
4. Beoning / Burning (Lee Chang-dong, 2018)

As probably just about every review ever has noted, not a whole lot happens - certainly not on the surface, on one viewing - in the first half of this adaptation of a Murakami short story. The story is called "Barn Burning" - obviously after Faulkner - and the main character, a sleepy-eyed depressive would-be writer, Lee Jong-su, reveres and references Faulkner, Fitzgerald and other writers even as he leads a life of desperate loneliness, doing odd jobs and living in the squalid old rural hilltop house left to him by his prison inmate father. He does reconnect with an old classmate, and this gets him a bit more interested in life...but then she seemingly takes up with the utterly charming and wealthy, carefree Ben. And then the story starts to go somewhere. I'm really not sure what to make of it all after one viewing, and I haven't read any Murakami, and the other literary references are deep in my past... but this did something in the end and though I had some idea of where it was heading, it still bowled me over in the way it got there. I'm tempted to say masterpiece but in any case it was easily the best film of the challenge thus far for me, and probably the best of this month as well.

5. Songneunghan / No. 3 (Song Neung-Han, 1997)

Pretty chaotic crime film that already has me struggling to remember any details just a couple of days later. Essentially our protagonist is the number 3 guy in his organization, and wants to get to number 1. He's off to a good start protecting the boss after a shooting, in a fun hospital action sequence near the beginning, but problems with his girlfriend and other troubles keep him in and out of danger for the rest of the film. This has some good actors, among them leads Han Suk-kyu and Choi Min-sik but the chaotic editing really worked against it IMO and I gave up caring what was going on. I also found the role of women strange and kind of problematic, as all the female characters essentially disappear in the middle half of the film and we give up on any kind of domestic storyline, which had been fairly prominent early on. Maybe I was just too tired for this, I dunno.

6. Ko-ri-a / As One (Moon Hyeon-seong, 2012)

This could be the most cliched film I've ever seen that I still managed to (grudgingly) like. It's every damn inspirational sports drama story there is, this time with the added politics of the first North-South cooperation on any international stage since the partition. It's the 1991 World Table Tennis Championships in Chiba, Japan, and the two Koreas team up to best the hated Chinese! Who will win? What personal dramas will develop? How will the rival coaches of the teams make friends (hint: alcohol). The only "novelty" here is that the story is about female athletes, and that it's about ping-pong, and I guess that might make it vaguely more interesting for the sports-film enthusiasts out there. Me, I watched it solely for Bae Doona, here playing the top NK champion, very severe and humorless at first - of course the ice will eventually break and she will eventually make friends with her SK counterpart (Ha Ji-won) dontcha know. But somehow despite the obviousness of it all, and the propagandistic elements (anti-China as well as anti-North), at the end it was kind of moving, thanks mostly the the fairly believable growing friendship between the two stars. I wouldn't strongly recommend it or anything but it certainly ended up being more tolerable than I expected. Music is incredibly sappy and obvious throughout.

7. In-lyu-myeol-mang-bo-go-seo / Doomsday Book (Yim Pil-sung/Kim Jee-woon, 2012)

Another just OK movie, this one is a three-part film, with the first and last directed by Yim and the middle by the much more famous KIm, giving us three end-of-the-world scenarios. The first is a pretty standard zombie apocalypse story, though it seems (perhaps) to be trying to say something about consumption and meat eating in particular, and there's a vague religion (Christian) angle, but these elements aren't really developed. Notable for featuring director Bong Joon-ho in a supporting role. The second and by and large most successful element concerns a robot who may have attained nirvana as the reincarnation of the Buddha - thus perhaps obviating the need for man, and the third involves a little girl who somehow apparently orders a giant billiard ball online, which years later comes to destroy earth. This was kind of fun if silly and, like the first element, offers little explanation for anything; Bae Doona appears in the last 10 minutes as the grown-up girl. Overall, some interesting ideas, but all pretty half-assed in execution.

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Post by Coryn » November 24th, 2019, 1:05 am

2. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (2002)
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Post by vortexsurfer » November 24th, 2019, 9:33 am

4. Daijiga umule pajinnal/The Day a Pig Fell Into the Well (Sang-soo Hong, 1996)

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1. Ag-o/Crocodile (Ki-duk Kim, 1996)
2. Bi-mong/Dream (Ki-duk Kim, 2008)
3. Cho-neung-ryeok-ja/Haunters (Min-suk Kim, 2010)
4. Daijiga umule pajinnal/The Day a Pig Fell Into the Well (Sang-soo Hong, 1996)

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Post by sol » November 24th, 2019, 12:01 pm

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1. Ta-weo / The Tower (2012) South Korea
2. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003) South Korea
3. Memories of Murder (2003) South Korea
4. The Insect Woman (1972) South Korea
5. The Terror, Live (2013) South Korea
6. The Housemaid (1960) South Korea
7. Fire Woman. (1971) South Korea
8. Sweet Dream (1936) Pre-50s Korea
9. J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000) South Korea
10. Ten Zan - Ultimate Mission (1988) North Korea
11. The Yellow Sea (2010) South Korea
12. I Saw the Devil (2010) South Korea
13. The Red Shoes (2005) South Korea
14. Psychokinesis. (2018) South Korea
15. The Villainess (2017) South Korea
16. Oldboy (2003) South Korea
17. Mandala (1981) South Korea
18. Bedevilled (2010) South Korea
19. Ggotip / A Petal (1996) South Korea

20. The Quiet Family (1998) South Korea

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There are some deliciously absurd black comedy moments here as dead bodies keep piling up, the family begins to inadvertently cause deaths and both rain and roadwork threatens to expose shallow graves. As a narrative though, the film is less solid than the similar likes of Tucker and Dale vs Evil. There is a batty old woman in the mix, but whether she places a curse on the inn or believes it is haunted is unclear. Cool camerawork either way.
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Post by ororama » November 24th, 2019, 1:23 pm

16. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.4 (1999) * 60 min. (South Korea)

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1. GisaengchungParasite (2019) * 132 min. (South Korea)
2. Piano: Episode #1.9 (2001) 63 min. (South Korea)
3. Piano: Episode #1.10 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
4. Swiri (1999) * 125 min. (South Korea)
5. Piano: Episode #1.11 (2001) 65 min. (South Korea)
6. Piano: Episode #1.12 (2001) 64 min. (South Korea)
7. Bakha satang/ Peppermint Candy (1999) * 130 min. (South Korea)
8. Ju No-myeong Bakery/ Love Bakery (2000) * 106 min. (South Korea)
9. Piano: Episode #1.13 (2002) * 64 min. (South Korea)
10. Piano: Episode #1.14 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)
11. Piano: Episode #1.15 (2002) * 65 min. (South Korea)
12. Piano: Episode #1.16 (2002) * 63 min. (South Korea)
13. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.1 (1999) * 57 min. (South Korea)
14. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.2  (1999) * 60 min. (South Korea)
15. Hae-pi Too-ge-deo/ Happy Together: Episode #1.3 (1999) * 59 min. (South Korea)

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