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Post by sol » May 29th, 2018, 12:03 pm

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[Challenge for Films on Zero Offical Lists]
Unofficial Challenge
For many of us, iCM has been a godsend. Rather than spending hours trying to work out what to watch from thousands of movies out there, the site provides 190 (and counting) reputable lists to work on. What's more, the site ranks you against other users depending on the number of films you have checked from those 190 Official Lists, and gives you imaginary metal for completing 50, 75, 90 and 100% of any given list. The downside of this is that, since joining iCM, some users (I am certainly guilty of this) have refined their viewing habits to preference to films on 1+ Official lists over those on no lists at all. And on a personal note, this has lad to me amassing a very large number of unwatched films (and recommendations) that I have procrastinated due to their Unofficial status.

This is the Challenge where we aim to reverse that trend and try to encourage everyone to think outside the square and check out all the promising films out there that are currently on no Official lists. As the massive number of films mentioned in last year's Unofficial poll proved, there is a wealth of movies out there that many of us believe to be great, Official Status or not. And this is the month to explore those titles. Who knows what you might find? Maybe something worth nominating for this year's 500<400 poll, next year's DTC exercise or the next World Cup? So go out, explore and report to back to us with what is out there, worthwhile and which we may have missed due to unofficial status. :)

Goal
Watch as many Unofficial movies as you can from June 1, 2018 to June 30, 2018.

What is an Unofficial Film?
Must be on zero Official Lists on iCheckMovies at the time that you watch it. If a film turns Official during the month you can only include it if you saw it before it became Official.

Rules
- Feature length (40mins+) narrative, documentary and experimental films are eligible for this Challenge
- Telepics and miniseries (if watched in their entirety) are eligible for this Challenge, but are only worth 1 point
- TV episodes, individual miniseries episodes, music videos and short films are not eligible for this Challenge
- See our discussion about inclusions and exclusions for this Challenge
- All current cinema releases are eligible if they are on zero Official lists
- Rewatches are allowed, and yeah, they are still good for the soul

I reserve the right to exclude participants who intentionally number their viewings incorrectly. If you play the game, you're expected to play properly.

DEADLINE
Final results will be posted between 11:00am and 11:30am GMT on July 2 - at which point it will have been June everywhere in the world for almost a whole day. While you are welcome to post updates beyond this point, any such updates will not be included in the final results. Your choice whether you miss the deadline or not; besides, if it's July on your side of the world, shouldn't you be starting on one of next month's challenges, mm?

Stuck for ideas of what to watch? Look no further:

Official Lists
None. Duh.

Non-Official Lists
iCM Forum's Favourite 1000 Unofficial Checks (the last 38 films have since become Official and are ineligible)
iCM Forum's 1000<400 (sorted by least number of Official Lists; many but not all are eligible)
TSZDT Top 1001-2000 (sorted by least number of Official Lists; many but not all are eligible)
TSPDT Top 1001-2000 (the first 22 films are Unofficial)

The last three lists should be especially interesting to check whores obsessed moviegoers since they all contain films that have a decent chance at turning Official in the future.

This thread will be updated at least twice a day (more often if I am around and feel like it). Since I am updating manually, I would appreciate it if you to list new films seen in a new post. If you would prefer just to endlessly edit your original post, please let me know so that I remember to check your post.

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RankParticipant# of Watches
1 jeroeno 94
2 blueboybob 86
3 jdidaco 82
4 allisoncm 66
5 psychotronicbeatnik 61
6 RogerTheMovieManiac88 50
7 sol 47
8 flavo5000 46
9 zzzorf 39
10 hurluberlu 38
11 maxwelldeux 37
12 Mate_cosido 35
13 PUNQ 34
14 OldAle1 31
15 weirdboy 30
16 vortexsurfer 29
17 72allinncallme 24
18 frbrown 23
19 cinephage 22
20 Daviddoes 19
21 3eyes 18
22 ChrisReynolds 16
23 Hippiemans 14
24 clemmetarey 12
25 joachimt 11
26 sebby 9
27 Nathan Treadway 7
27 VincentPrice 7
29 Fergenaprido 5
29 tommy_leazaq 5
31 blocho 3
31 jvv 3
33 connordenney 2
33 Knaldskalle 2
33 Melvelet 2
33 Simba63 2
33 Tarris1 2
38 nimimerkillinen 1
38 ororama 1
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Post by 3eyes » May 29th, 2018, 1:10 pm

Great intro, Sol. In, natch. I hope I can remember how to count.

Of course one can take any non-official ICM list one finds interesting and sort by # of top lists.
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Post by Tarris1 » May 29th, 2018, 1:34 pm

Might do a few (tho looking at the last few challenges I have joined, it probably wont be many). I will prioritize movies that has been on my watchlist for a long time and those with <400 checks

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Post by psychotronicbeatnik » May 29th, 2018, 10:05 pm

Officially in. :cheers:

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Post by maxwelldeux » May 29th, 2018, 10:34 pm

"This is the Official Unofficial Challenge." "This is the Unofficial Official Challenge."

And this is how I plan on amusing myself over the next few days.

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Post by 3eyes » May 30th, 2018, 1:52 am

If I may challenge the unofficially official official: Sol, there's a fine line between TV miniseries and movies made for TV --? Do the latter count? How do we tell the difference? (such as if miniseries of whatever length count as one watch, period)?
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Post by sol » May 30th, 2018, 1:01 pm

3eyes on May 29 2018, 07:52:02 PM wrote: Sol, there's a fine line between TV miniseries and movies made for TV --? Do the latter count? How do we tell the difference? (such as if miniseries of whatever length count as one watch, period)?
I don't have an answer for this. Yet. As far as I can tell, we can go two ways:

(c) Making entire miniseries count as one point - e.g. if Band of Brothers was Unofficial, watching all 10 episodes = 1 point, not 10 points

OR

(b) Making made-for-television films ineligible

It might be simpler to just exclude telepics (I mean, there are tons of eligible cinema releases to chose from as it is) but I'll leave this question open for another 24 hours to hear what everybody else thinks.

Good on you for raising this question before the Challenge got underway! :thumbsup:
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Post by 3eyes » May 30th, 2018, 1:06 pm

I would vote for the first option because, as an (almost) lifelong non-TV watcher, I truly wouldn't know the difference, and I'm not about to do the research to find out.

Of course, one can choose to exclude MTV movies from one's own list.
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Post by maxwelldeux » May 30th, 2018, 4:36 pm

3eyes on May 30 2018, 07:06:27 AM wrote:I would vote for the first option because, as an (almost) lifelong non-TV watcher, I truly wouldn't know the difference, and I'm not about to do the research to find out.

Of course, one can choose to exclude MTV movies from one's own list.
I'd vote for the first option as well.

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Post by Knaldskalle » May 30th, 2018, 4:42 pm

Why not, I'm in. Don't know how much I'll be watching.
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Post by sol » May 31st, 2018, 12:27 pm

maxwelldeux on May 30 2018, 10:36:53 AM wrote:
3eyes on May 30 2018, 07:06:27 AM wrote:I would vote for the first option because, as an (almost) lifelong non-TV watcher, I truly wouldn't know the difference, and I'm not about to do the research to find out.

Of course, one can choose to exclude MTV movies from one's own list.
I'd vote for the first option as well.
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Post by 3eyes » May 31st, 2018, 1:26 pm

sol on May 31 2018, 06:27:47 AM wrote:
maxwelldeux on May 30 2018, 10:36:53 AM wrote:
3eyes on May 30 2018, 07:06:27 AM wrote:I would vote for the first option because, as an (almost) lifelong non-TV watcher, I truly wouldn't know the difference, and I'm not about to do the research to find out.

Of course, one can choose to exclude MTV movies from one's own list.
I'd vote for the first option as well.
Rules updated to reflect this. :thumbsup:
thanks, sol.

(This could cause some confusion with the other challenges, but oh well. States' rights and all that.)
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Post by VincentPrice » May 31st, 2018, 5:49 pm

In in in

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Post by jdidaco » June 1st, 2018, 6:25 am

In. Thanks for hosting, sol.

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Post by Daviddoes » June 1st, 2018, 10:31 am

I shall put my check whoring ways aside for a month and participate.

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Post by sol » June 1st, 2018, 3:38 pm

Well, let me be a perfect thread host and kick off the challenge with an aptly titled film. ;)

1. The Perfect Host (2010)

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(This film was recommend to me a while ago, and despite finding it on Blu-ray a number of months ago, it has stayed watched until now.)

Little can be said of the plot of this psychological thriller without ruining a fresh experience, but suffice it to say that the first twenty minutes are the strongest with much tension as a bank robber cons his way into David Hyde Pierce's home. The film loses steam as it progresses and becomes more convoluted, and ultimately it feels coincidence-heavy and contrived rather than clever, but it is still slickly made and nicely challenges us to constantly reconsider which main character we sympathise with more.
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Post by Tarris1 » June 1st, 2018, 4:00 pm

1. 84 Charing Cross Road (1987)

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Post by PUNQ » June 1st, 2018, 7:01 pm

Unofficial checks is basically my lifestyle with less that 10% being official ones, so this challenge is a natural one for me. I'll be mainly working my way through 1942, but on June 14 the World Cup starts and that'll slow me down greatly with 3-4 matches a day.... and I'll probable be watching them all :P



1. Baby Face Morgan (1942, Arthur Dreifuss) - 4/10
--- Silly little gangster comedy from poverty row, filled with past-their-prime 30s favorites! Stars Richard Cromwell, a son of a gangster, replacing his dad in the mob without knowing it. Robert Armstrong is the real orchestrator controlling the gang, while Warren Hymer is the wonderful joke of the picture, and that makes-up for the poor craftsmanship that went into making Baby Face Morgan (1942). That, and the inclusion of Mary Carlisle as the leading lady in her second-to-last movie.


2. Back-Room Boy (1942, Herbert Mason) - 6/10
--- Not the funniest of British comedies, but I enjoyed it thoroughly anyway. Something about the likable/familiar cast, spooky lighthouse atmosphere and trying to cover-up for anything lacking by over-filling the screen with pretty ladies as they forcefully enter the war in the process. My favorite bit was when Arthur Askey first arrived on the island and weird things started happening. Had good chemistry with the little girl as well. The plot kind of wanders after that, but you can't go wrong with Moore Marriott & Graham Moffatt showing up.


3. Banana Ridge (1942, Walter C. Mycroft) - 5/10 - FIRST CHECK!
--- The odd couple of Robertson Hare & Alfred Drayton in bastard problems! The plot does struggle to keep on track, but the two balding old gentlemen are always funny regardless of what they are fed.


4. Beyond the Blue Horizon (1942, Alfred Santell) - 6/10
--- Exotically ridiculous! But I think I loved this more than most. Perhaps for all the wrong reasons. Just think of it as a delicious jungle mishmash with no attempt to make any sense. Switch your brain off and enjoy!


5. Black Dragons (1942, William Nigh) - 3/10
--- Dracula joins World War II.... sort of. Drugged-up Bela Lugosi spikes several other people in a slightly confusing espionage cheapie of double-identities to promote the war effort. Not very good, but then again Bela films are more for the cult audience.


6. Blondie Goes to College (1942, Frank R. Strayer) - 4/10
--- Dagwood & Blondie Goes to College (1942), and sends Baby Dumpling to military school. I think everybody except Dagwood knew that would be a bad idea. Not the most essential entry in the Blondie series, but it has some gullible ideas as most of these simple-humor films have.



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2. Back-Room Boy (1942, Herbert Mason) - 6/10
3. Banana Ridge (1942, Walter C. Mycroft) - 5/10 - FIRST CHECK!
4. Beyond the Blue Horizon (1942, Alfred Santell) - 6/10
5. Black Dragons (1942, William Nigh) - 3/10
6. Blondie Goes to College (1942, Frank R. Strayer) - 4/10
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Post by VincentPrice » June 1st, 2018, 8:50 pm

1. A Futile and Stupid Gesture-2017: 9/10

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Post by psychotronicbeatnik » June 1st, 2018, 9:04 pm

1. Who Killed Captain Alex? (2010, Uganda) Nabwana I.G.G. / FTV / Rating: 7+

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Post by 3eyes » June 2nd, 2018, 2:20 am

1. Dakan / Destiny (Guinea 97) - double
Billed as first gay-themed movie made south of the Sahara. Found it on Kanopy.
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Post by frbrown » June 2nd, 2018, 3:23 am

1. The Return of Godzilla (1984)
2. The Mean Season (1985)
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Post by jdidaco » June 2nd, 2018, 3:24 am

1. 44 aw Oustourat al layl/44 ou les récits de la nuit (Forty-four, or Bedtime Stories, Moumen Smihi, 1985) 9/10
2. Sarikat Sayfeya (Summer Thefts, Yousry Nasrallah, 1988) 9/10

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Post by sol » June 2nd, 2018, 3:37 am

PUNQ on Jun 1 2018, 01:01:07 PM wrote:Unofficial checks is basically my lifestyle with less that 10% being official ones, so this challenge is a natural one for me.
Go PUNQ! A Challenge this year that you can still win! ^_^ Back-Room Boy was one of my favourite Askey films from the period when I went through pretty much his whole filmography. The young girl is excellent - and also co-starred with him in King Arthur Was a Gentleman.
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Post by sol » June 2nd, 2018, 5:53 am

The UnOfficial StoryShow
1. The Perfect Host (2010)
2. The Girl on the Train (2016)

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(I was disappointed when I missed out seeing this during its theatrical run; having now watched it, I'm glad I didn't spend a cinema ticket on it)

With her deep eyes, frail movements and quivering voice, Emily Blunt delivers well as the alcoholic protagonist trying to put everything together here, unsure if she witnessed something due to her tendency to blackout when drunk. Unfortunately, the rest of the film is not quite on Blunt's level. The thrills get lost amid overly complex twists and turns, interchangeable supporting characters and a 'shock' revelation that is hardly all that shocking.
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Post by maxwelldeux » June 2nd, 2018, 6:33 am

sol on Jun 1 2018, 11:53:07 PM wrote:2. The Girl on the Train (2016)
I think you hit the nail on the head with your comment there. Loved Emily Blunt, but the film didn't come together in any appreciable way.

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Post by maxwelldeux » June 2nd, 2018, 6:47 am

1. Can't Buy Me Love (1987)

I told my wife what the challenges were this month, and that she could convince me to watch any of those 80s movies she grew up with and wanted to revisit. So we watched this, and my wife hated the experience. It was one of those films that was amazing and hit a lot of right notes in the 80s when it came out, but sitting here in her 30s, she hated the film and blamed it (in a small part) for why she ended up the way she did. And I don't blame her - it wasn't good. Most of the fun was in seeing a few well-known people in earlier roles.

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Post by sol » June 2nd, 2018, 8:33 am

maxwelldeux on Jun 2 2018, 12:33:13 AM wrote:
sol on Jun 1 2018, 11:53:07 PM wrote:2. The Girl on the Train (2016)
I think you hit the nail on the head with your comment there. Loved Emily Blunt, but the film didn't come together in any appreciable way.
And heh, I am three films into this Challenge now and have yet to stumble upon any cinematic greatness. Almost makes me wanting to go back to just watching Official films. :pinch: I will keep plugging away though. I mean, I have already amassed over 50 unwatched DVDs in my collection and some do look a lot more promising than what I have been seeing so far.

P.S.: I don't remember much of Can't Buy Me Love, but I guess I should consider myself lucky then since I have it down as only a 4/10.
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Post by sol » June 2nd, 2018, 8:36 am

The UnOfficial StoryShow
1. The Perfect Host (2010)
2. The Girl on the Train (2016)
3. In the Valley of Elah (2007)

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Certainly one of the better turns from Tommy Lee Jones (of this period in his career) with a lot of sorrow and anger swelling just beneath the surface. The movie takes some interesting directions as his wife blames him for them losing a second son to war and as Jones learns some unsavory things about his AWOL son who has vanished after a tour of duty. Unfortunately, all this gets muddled amid among military cover-up/conspiracy stuff and Haggis uses the story of David and Golilath in some terribly unsubtle ways.
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Post by vortexsurfer » June 2nd, 2018, 8:42 am

In.

1. Tag (Sion Sono, 2015)
2. The Marquise of O (Eric Rohmer, 1976)

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Post by sol » June 2nd, 2018, 4:07 pm

The UnOfficial StoryShow
1. The Perfect Host (2010)
2. The Girl on the Train (2016)
3. In the Valley of Elah (2007)
4. All the Right Moves (1983)

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As someone who watches Scream on a yearly basis, for me this will forever be that film that Sid and friend talking about renting so that they can see Tom Cruise's member. I also have a friend who likes the film a lot (possibly for the same reason??) and I haven't seen him in ages, so I guess we'll have something to talk about when I next run into him. I did not, however, pause the DVD to check out if is true about seeing his stuff. I wonder if he'll ask.

This film features scattered beautiful images (see above or better quality jpg). Tom Cruise also has a couple of solid moments and memorable lines ("maybe the scoreboard doesn't show it, but we won that game"). However, it is hard to care for his first world problems like a girlfriend who refuses to put out and a best friend entering fatherhood. His friends are even less interesting and their shenanigans are tiresome. The biggest issue though is that the town never seems like that bad a place to live in, so it is hard to sympathise with his desire to leave.
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Post by connordenney » June 2nd, 2018, 7:11 pm

1. Surviving Desire (Hal Hartley, 1991)
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Post by 72allinncallme » June 2nd, 2018, 7:48 pm

1. Anchiporuno (2016) 7/10
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2. Reindeerspotting - pako Joulumaasta (2010) 9.25/10 (l)
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Post by psychotronicbeatnik » June 2nd, 2018, 8:45 pm

2. Anger of a Wonder Girl (2017, Nigeria) Ilochi Olisaemeka / FTV / Rating: 4
3. RoboVampire (1988) Godfrey Ho / FTV / Rating: 7
4. Star Knight (1985) Fernando Colomo / FTV / Rating: 6
5. Earth Girls Are Easy (1988) Julien Temple / FTV / Rating: 5
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1. Who Killed Captain Alex? (2010, Uganda) Nabwana I.G.G. / FTV / Rating: 7+
2. Anger of a Wonder Girl (2017, Nigeria) Ilochi Olisaemeka / FTV / Rating: 4
3. RoboVampire (1988) Godfrey Ho / FTV / Rating: 7
4. Star Knight (1985) Fernando Colomo / FTV / Rating: 6
5. Earth Girls Are Easy (1988) Julien Temple / FTV / Rating: 5

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Post by VincentPrice » June 3rd, 2018, 1:37 am

2. The Being-1983: 10/10 (rewatch)

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Post by sol » June 3rd, 2018, 3:46 am

The UnOfficial StoryShow
1. The Perfect Host (2010)
2. The Girl on the Train (2016)
3. In the Valley of Elah (2007)
4. All the Right Moves (1983)
5. The One I Love (2014)

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The first really great film that I have seen for this Challenge. :D

While this is one of those films best entered into with as few expectations as possible, the similarities to Coherence are obvious within the first 15 minutes and the film at times comes across as Coherence remade as a comedy. The story ultimately ends up being slightly different here though and while the movie concludes on a less than totally satisfying note with far more questions than answers, this a great look at identity, morbid curiosity and indeed what exactly love entails.
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Post by jdidaco » June 3rd, 2018, 3:58 am

3. Lettre à la prison (Letter to the Prison, Marc Scialom, 1969) 8.5/10
4. Voice Over (Christopher Monger, 1983) 8.5/10
5. Thames Film (William Raban, 1987) 10/10
6. Gabbla (Inland, Tariq Teguia, 2008) 9.5/10

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2. Sarikat Sayfeya (Summer Thefts, Yousry Nasrallah, 1988) 9/10

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Post by Mate_cosido » June 3rd, 2018, 4:26 am

1. Carne de horca (1953, Ladislao Vajda)

2. Uchiage hanabi, shita kara miruka? Yoko kara miruka? - Fireworks, Should We See It from the Side or The Bottom? (1993, Shunji Iwai)

3. Paradaisu byû - Paradise View (1985, Go Takamine)

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Post by frbrown » June 3rd, 2018, 5:47 am

3. Massacre in Dinosaur Valley (1985)

Supposedly one of the less gory Italian cannibal films, and therefore the first one that I dared to watch. No dinosaurs in the film.



4. Iced (1988)

Slasher movie set at a ski resort


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1. The Return of Godzilla (1984)
2. The Mean Season (1985)
3. Massacre in Dinosaur Valley (1985)
4. Iced (1988)
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Post by VincentPrice » June 3rd, 2018, 6:35 am

3. The Disaster Artist-2017: 10/10

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