Welcome to the ICM Forum. If you have an account but have trouble logging in, or have other questions, see THIS THREAD.
500<400 (Nominations Sep 22nd)
Polls: Animation (Results), 2016 awards (Aug 25th), 1987 (Aug 25th), Benelux (Aug 30th), Knockout competition (Round 1)
Challenges: Romance, UK/Ireland, <400 Checks
Film of the Week: Hospital, September nominations (Aug 30th)

French Challenge (April 2018)

Post Reply
User avatar
maxwelldeux
Donator
Posts: 6367
Joined: Jun 07, 2016
Location: Seattle-ish, WA, USA
Contact:

French Challenge (April 2018)

#1

Post by maxwelldeux » March 29th, 2018, 6:22 am

Image

Goal
From 1 April 2018 to 30 April 2018, watch as many films from France as you can. Only films made in France are eligible - because this is a Country challenge, we're sticking with the country of France.

Eligible Countries
France

Usual Rules
- Any film in from France counts
- Feature film (over 40 minutes) counts as one entry.
- 60 minutes of short films count as one entry.
- The miniseries rule applies.
- Rewatches are allowed.

Stats & Formatting:
- Title (year) is the preferred format
- For TV episodes, please use "Series Title: Episode Title (year)"
- New posts are preferred over edited posts
- I'll be tracking years with this challenge, along with the number of doubles (films counting for two official challenges) and triples (films counting for all three official challenges)

Useful Links:

Official Lists
César Awards
TimeOut
Times

Unofficial Lists
Explore French cinema
Film de France top 100
French Ministry of foreign affairs
Histoires De Films Français
ICM Forum Top 250
Nouvelle vague
Les inrocks top 100
RYM Top 100
Une histoire du cinéma français
Every film that's ever won a Caesar <-- Thanks clemmetarey!

French Films Streaming on Common Platforms (US Only)
Netflix: https://trakt.tv/search/movies/?watchno ... untries=fr
Amazon Prime: https://trakt.tv/search/movies/?watchno ... untries=fr
Hulu: https://trakt.tv/search/movies/?watchno ... untries=fr
Filmstruck: https://trakt.tv/search/movies/?watchno ... untries=fr

List of Triples
Triples: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/trip ... inncallme/

Shout Out
clemmetarey, whose 2016 post for this challenge I've shamelessly stolen. :thumbsup:

Participants
Participants
RankParticipantNumber of WatchesDoublesTriples
1psychotronicbeatnik1003510
2allisoncm67111
3RogerTheMovieManiac8857163
4hurluberlu50186
5sortile9io38140
6Ivan0716362011
7morrison-dylan-fan35131
8clemmetarey32141
972allinncallme28163
10weirdboy26110
10Simba6326109
12St. Gloede25101
13sol24111
14Hippiemans2241
14Mate_cosido22115
163eyes1933
17jdidaco16160
18klaus781561
19India Istanbul1430
20ororama1240
20OldAle11243
22Fergenaprido1132
22jeroeno1182
22maxwelldeux1181
22cinephage1120
26frbrown1041
26flavo50001030
28tommy_leazaq632
28Lonewolf2003632
28vortexsurfer640
31sebby532
31connordenney511
33nimimerkillinen421
33Tarris1400
35blocho210
36funkybusiness100
36matthewscott8100
36Lakigigar100


Fun Stats:
Week 1 Stats
Week 2 Stats
Week 3 Stats
Final Stats
Last edited by maxwelldeux on May 3rd, 2018, 1:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
jeroeno
Posts: 2692
Joined: Jun 22, 2011
Location: Valkenswaard, The Netherlands
Contact:

#2

Post by jeroeno » March 29th, 2018, 7:00 am

So much I would like to see. Yeah, I'm in.

User avatar
72allinncallme
Donator
Posts: 2415
Joined: Nov 13, 2016
Contact:

#3

Post by 72allinncallme » March 29th, 2018, 10:26 am

In! Just France then? You guys are so strict :D

User avatar
funkybusiness
Donator
Posts: 10476
Joined: Jan 22, 2013
Contact:

#4

Post by funkybusiness » March 29th, 2018, 10:36 am

oui, je suis 'in'.

Tarris1
Posts: 199
Joined: Mar 19, 2016
Contact:

#5

Post by Tarris1 » March 29th, 2018, 11:56 am

Might go for bronze in both the country lists, ~14 movies left (assuming 8 of the movies are on both lists)

User avatar
3eyes
Donator
Posts: 6689
Joined: May 17, 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Contact:

#6

Post by 3eyes » March 29th, 2018, 2:22 pm

In. (Not even Belgium? Oh, well.)
Last edited by 3eyes on March 29th, 2018, 2:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
:run: STILL the Gaffer!

User avatar
cinephage
Donator
Posts: 3670
Joined: Nov 11, 2011
Contact:

#7

Post by cinephage » March 29th, 2018, 2:37 pm

C'est parti mon kiki !!!
Of course I'm in, even though I'll spend the first 2 weeks of april in a Film Festival and won't be able to work on any challenge...

User avatar
weirdboy
Donator
Posts: 3435
Joined: Jan 03, 2016
Contact:

#8

Post by weirdboy » March 29th, 2018, 5:21 pm

I know I am definitely watching at least one movie. I have a list of many more that I'd like to get through in April, but not sure how many I will watch as I'm going to be quite busy for most of the month.



allisoncm
Posts: 16074
Joined: May 11, 2011
Contact:

#11

Post by allisoncm » March 29th, 2018, 6:38 pm

Ivan0716 on Mar 29 2018, 12:33:39 PM wrote:Is Providence (1977) eligible?
Part of it was filmed in France and the director is French. I don't see why not.

User avatar
Ivan0716
Posts: 1021
Joined: Feb 05, 2012
Contact:

#12

Post by Ivan0716 » March 29th, 2018, 7:07 pm

Sorry, I should have been more specific! Where do we draw the line? Any film with a France tag on IMDB? Anything with a significant(whatever constitutes significant) amount of French involvement?

If the French language isn't a requirement then what about films like:
-The Conformist (1970) and Rocco and His Brothers (1960) which are obviously Italian but were partly filmed in France and/or had a French lead.

-The Pianist (2002) which was set/shot in Poland with a mostly English-speaking cast but has won the Cesar award for best film.

-Mustang (2015) which was the nominated as a French film in the Oscars but doesn't seem to be anything French about it besides the director being a French citizen.

allisoncm
Posts: 16074
Joined: May 11, 2011
Contact:

#13

Post by allisoncm » March 29th, 2018, 7:14 pm

The Conformist was directed by Bertolucci. It's not a French film, although it features Jean-Louis Trintignant.

Any film nominated for a Cesar would probably be okay.

Mustang you could get away with probably, but that's up to maxwelldeux. It's definitely not filmed in France.

User avatar
Ivan0716
Posts: 1021
Joined: Feb 05, 2012
Contact:

#14

Post by Ivan0716 » March 29th, 2018, 7:24 pm

Ok, so we can't just go by IMDB tags then. I personally wouldn't count those 4 films I listed in the last post, just curious where the line is drawn, not that I'm planning loophole a bunch of non-French films into this challenge. :P

User avatar
OldAle1
Donator
Posts: 3501
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
Location: Dairyland, USA
Contact:

#15

Post by OldAle1 » March 29th, 2018, 7:31 pm

I would think that there are enough films that are actually made by French filmmakers, in France, with French casts speaking French that one wouldn't need to look for "loopholes", unless one wants to be able to just watch English-language films that happen to be partly or mostly French-financed or something (i.e. most of Luc Besson's films). I guess I see the spirit of these challenges as important - if you want to do a French challenge, watch goddamn French films, not stuff that is French only because one of the companies involved that ponied up 10% of the dough is headquartered in Paris.
Here's to the fools who dream.

User avatar
maxwelldeux
Donator
Posts: 6367
Joined: Jun 07, 2016
Location: Seattle-ish, WA, USA
Contact:

#16

Post by maxwelldeux » March 29th, 2018, 7:45 pm

Ivan0716 on Mar 29 2018, 01:07:35 PM wrote:Sorry, I should have been more specific! Where do we draw the line? Any film with a France tag on IMDB? Anything with a significant(whatever constitutes significant) amount of French involvement?

If the French language isn't a requirement then what about films like:
-The Conformist (1970) and Rocco and His Brothers (1960) which are obviously Italian but were partly filmed in France and/or had a French lead.

-The Pianist (2002) which was set/shot in Poland with a mostly English-speaking cast but has won the Cesar award for best film.

-Mustang (2015) which was the nominated as a French film in the Oscars but doesn't seem to be anything French about it besides the director being a French citizen.
I tend to agree that the spirit of the challenge is important - there are plenty of undoubtedly French films out there to watch.

But there's also the game aspect of the challenges, so I understand the need to draw the line somewhere. I tend to be pretty permissive about what counts for challenges - I fall into the "Anything with a significant amount of French involvement" camp. When in doubt, state your case - if you make a reasonable argument about why something should be included, I'll probably accept it.

Based on some quick IMDBing, the only one from your list that really gives me pause is Rocco and His Brothers, but I'm not familiar with it. If you think it should be included, state your case (when you watch it).

User avatar
Ivan0716
Posts: 1021
Joined: Feb 05, 2012
Contact:

#17

Post by Ivan0716 » March 29th, 2018, 7:56 pm

I'm not looking for loopholes, I'm just curious about what's eligible and what isn't, last time I was told that Viridiana doesn't count towards the Latin American challenge because the forum has come to the consensus that it's a Spanish film, so I thought it would be nice if this time I could find out beforehand what the criteria are. Not that I would lose sleep if I watched a French co-production and then be told it's not "French enough", I'm not watching films just to compete in these challenges.

User avatar
clemmetarey
Donator
Posts: 2202
Joined: Nov 20, 2011
Contact:

#18

Post by clemmetarey » March 29th, 2018, 9:16 pm

Pas de problème maxwelldeux :thumbsup:

I'm also in.

User avatar
maxwelldeux
Donator
Posts: 6367
Joined: Jun 07, 2016
Location: Seattle-ish, WA, USA
Contact:

#19

Post by maxwelldeux » March 29th, 2018, 9:50 pm

Ivan0716 on Mar 29 2018, 01:56:47 PM wrote:I'm not looking for loopholes, I'm just curious about what's eligible and what isn't, last time I was told that Viridiana doesn't count towards the Latin American challenge because the forum has come to the consensus that it's a Spanish film, so I thought it would be nice if this time I could find out beforehand what the criteria are. Not that I would lose sleep if I watched a French co-production and then be told it's not "French enough", I'm not watching films just to compete in these challenges.
Heh. I remember that. Personally, I would have counted it, because while it's definitely a Spanish film, Mexico had a significant contribution to it. But that's just differences in hosts - no one is right or wrong, just different interpretations of how to host.

I tend to be "when in doubt, allow it" as a host. :geek:

psychotronicbeatnik
Donator
Posts: 1386
Joined: Feb 04, 2017
Location: Oregon
Contact:

#20

Post by psychotronicbeatnik » March 29th, 2018, 11:04 pm

Oui.

jdidaco
Posts: 1169
Joined: Feb 03, 2017
Contact:

#21

Post by jdidaco » March 31st, 2018, 5:26 am

(Modestly), in! Thanks for hosting, max!

User avatar
clemmetarey
Donator
Posts: 2202
Joined: Nov 20, 2011
Contact:

#22

Post by clemmetarey » March 31st, 2018, 3:45 pm

If anyone is interested, I was working on a list of Every films that has ever won a César. I was hoping to finish it before the end of the month, but I know I won't so I'm releasing it now. I'll keep updating it.

allisoncm
Posts: 16074
Joined: May 11, 2011
Contact:

#23

Post by allisoncm » March 31st, 2018, 4:26 pm

Thanks, clemmetarey.

User avatar
maxwelldeux
Donator
Posts: 6367
Joined: Jun 07, 2016
Location: Seattle-ish, WA, USA
Contact:

#24

Post by maxwelldeux » March 31st, 2018, 6:56 pm

clemmetarey on Mar 31 2018, 09:45:31 AM wrote:If anyone is interested, I was working on a list of Every films that has ever won a César. I was hoping to finish it before the end of the month, but I know I won't so I'm releasing it now. I'll keep updating it.
Added to OP. Thanks!

User avatar
sortile9io
Posts: 2775
Joined: Jan 23, 2013
Contact:

#25

Post by sortile9io » April 1st, 2018, 11:38 am

Moi aussi! A few French titles are still waiting on my watchlist plus I'd like to explore some of those lists in the opening post (by the way, links to "Une histoire du cinéma français" and "TimeOut" are broken) as well as other titles scattered throughout different official lists. And a great excuse to watch Bardot, Binoche, Béart, Seigner, etc.
Last edited by sortile9io on April 1st, 2018, 11:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
hurluberlu
Donator
Posts: 1314
Joined: Jan 04, 2017
Contact:

#26

Post by hurluberlu » April 1st, 2018, 3:23 pm

1. Choice of Arms / Le Choix des Armes (Alain Corneau, 1981) 7/10
2. Love at Sea / L'Amour à la Mer (Guy Gilles, 1964) 8-/10
3. Clémence et Ferdinand (Florence Mauro, 2018) 6/10
4. Eaux profondes (Michel Deville, 1981) 7/10
#JeSuisCharlie Liberté, Liberté chérie !

Image
ImageImageImageImage

User avatar
jeroeno
Posts: 2692
Joined: Jun 22, 2011
Location: Valkenswaard, The Netherlands
Contact:

#27

Post by jeroeno » April 1st, 2018, 8:18 pm

1. Mauvais Sang (1986)

allisoncm
Posts: 16074
Joined: May 11, 2011
Contact:

#28

Post by allisoncm » April 1st, 2018, 8:58 pm

1. François Truffaut: Stolen Portraits 1993 - 10/10 - https://letterboxd.com/allisoncm/film/f ... portraits/ - Question for native French speakers. Marcel Ophuls tells a story about how Max referred to Truffaut as “malfrangué” (translated as scruffy). Not sure I’m spelling it right. Does anyone have an idea what the true meaning of this word is? and/or the spelling?
2. Paris-Willouby/Meet the Guilbys (2015) - 5.5/10 - https://letterboxd.com/allisoncm/film/meet-the-guilbys/

Tarris1
Posts: 199
Joined: Mar 19, 2016
Contact:

#29

Post by Tarris1 » April 1st, 2018, 10:38 pm

1. Le dîner de cons (1998) 8/10

User avatar
Ivan0716
Posts: 1021
Joined: Feb 05, 2012
Contact:

#30

Post by Ivan0716 » April 2nd, 2018, 2:30 am

1. Alice ou la dernière fugue (1977)

User avatar
maxwelldeux
Donator
Posts: 6367
Joined: Jun 07, 2016
Location: Seattle-ish, WA, USA
Contact:

#31

Post by maxwelldeux » April 2nd, 2018, 7:37 am

1. La règle du jeu AKA The Rules of the Game (1939)

Very well done film, but I just don't quite fully understand why it's rated as one of the best films of all time. Technically, the film seemed well ahead of its time, but the critique on bourgeois society seemed to be underplayed to me. Definitely saw the influence on later films like Discrete Charm... Probably should go and read the booklet on this.

User avatar
Mate_cosido
Posts: 673
Joined: Apr 28, 2016
Contact:

#32

Post by Mate_cosido » April 2nd, 2018, 8:32 am

1. Diabolo menthe - Peppermint Soda (1977, Diane Kurys)

2. Tous les garçons et les filles de leur âge...: Portrait d'une jeune fille de la fin des années 60 à Bruxelles (1994, Chantal Akerman)

The last one is set in Brussels and it's by a belgian director, but is french production and is listed as France in IMDb, so you'll be the judge if that counts or not, i don't care either way, the film was :wub:

User avatar
sol
Donator
Posts: 6192
Joined: Feb 03, 2017
Location: Perth, WA, Australia
Contact:

#33

Post by sol » April 2nd, 2018, 1:36 pm

1. Haute Tension (2003)

Image

While incredibly brutal and often intense, I spent the first hour of High Tension wondering where it would ultimately go, only to be pretty bitterly disappointed. The film really falls apart in the third act. I get the intelligence behind what occurs, but it significantly soils the rest of the film, which is a shame since there are some very cool images and memorable shocking imagery early on here.
Former IMDb message boards user /// iCM | IMDb | My Top 500+ Favourite Films /// Long live the new flesh!
Image Image Image

User avatar
3eyes
Donator
Posts: 6689
Joined: May 17, 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Contact:

#34

Post by 3eyes » April 2nd, 2018, 2:54 pm

1. Depuis qu'Otar est parti / Since Otar left (Fr 03)

French film set mostly in Georgia (ex-SSR) with dialog in French, Russian and Georgian. The main character (played by a nonagenarian) speaks mostly French and they go to Paris in the last act. I've resisted seeing it for a long time (it's been on my queue for ages) and had got it for the Women Directors challenge but didn't get around to it until last night. So glad I finally did.
:run: STILL the Gaffer!

User avatar
Simba63
Donator
Posts: 837
Joined: Sep 07, 2017
Location: USA
Contact:

#35

Post by Simba63 » April 2nd, 2018, 3:08 pm

Ok, I'm modestly in as well:

1. Cet obscur objet du désir (1977) - 6/10
Last edited by Simba63 on April 2nd, 2018, 3:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
3eyes
Donator
Posts: 6689
Joined: May 17, 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Contact:

#36

Post by 3eyes » April 2nd, 2018, 3:50 pm

1. Depuis qu'Otar est parti / Since Otar left (Fr 03)

Set mostly in Georgia (ex-SSR) with dialog in French, Russian and Georgian. The oldest of 3 generations of women (played by a nonagenarian) speaks mostly French, and the last acct is set in Paris. I've had this on my DVD queue for ages - got it for the Women Directors challenge but RL kept me from watching it until last night. So glad I finally did.
:run: STILL the Gaffer!


allisoncm
Posts: 16074
Joined: May 11, 2011
Contact:

#38

Post by allisoncm » April 2nd, 2018, 5:14 pm

Spoiler: click to toggleShow
1. François Truffaut: Stolen Portraits 1993 - 10/10 - https://letterboxd.com/allisoncm/film/f ... portraits/ - Question for native French speakers. Marcel Ophuls tells a story about how Max referred to Truffaut as “malfrangué” (translated as scruffy). Not sure I’m spelling it right. Does anyone have an idea what the true meaning of this word is? and/or the spelling?
2. Paris-Willouby/Meet the Guilbys (2015) - 5.5/10 - https://letterboxd.com/allisoncm/film/meet-the-guilbys/
3. Back to Burgundy/Ce Qui Nous Lie - 7/10 - https://letterboxd.com/allisoncm/film/back-to-burgundy/
4. L’Économie du couple/After Love - 5/10 - https://letterboxd.com/allisoncm/film/after-love-2016/

User avatar
maxwelldeux
Donator
Posts: 6367
Joined: Jun 07, 2016
Location: Seattle-ish, WA, USA
Contact:

#39

Post by maxwelldeux » April 2nd, 2018, 5:39 pm

clemmetarey on Apr 2 2018, 10:25:20 AM wrote:TimeOut link : https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/time ... nch+films/
Got it - Thanks! Link fixed in OP.

User avatar
sebby
Posts: 5780
Joined: Jul 04, 2011
Contact:

#40

Post by sebby » April 2nd, 2018, 7:36 pm

01. Monsieur Klein (1976) - 6/10
Spoiler: click to toggleShow
01. Monsieur Klein (1976) - 6/10

Post Reply