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Eastern European Challenge (June 2017)

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Post by albajos » May 31st, 2017, 11:03 am

EASTERN EUROPEAN CHALLENGE IV

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Goal
Watch as many films from Eastern Europe as you can.
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Albania
Belarus (does not include Soviet era)
Bosnia-Hercegovina
Bulgaria
Croatia
(Czechoslovakia)
Czech Republic
(East Germany)
Estonia (does not include Soviet era)
Georgia (does not include Soviet era)
Hungary
Kosovo
Latvia (does not include Soviet era)
Lithuania (does not include Soviet era)
Macedonia
Moldova (does not include Soviet era)
Montenegro
Poland
Romania
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Ukraine (does not include Soviet era)
(Yugoslavia)

The Soviet is in the Russia challenge, and not part of this. I will check the information on imdb to make the final call
Usual Rules
- A feature film (Anything over 40 minutes) counts as one entry
- A total of 60 minutes of short films count as one entry
- For Mini-Series (40 minute episodes or longer) each episode counts as an entry.
- For Mini-Series with shorter episodes, the 60 minute rule applies.
- Re-watches allowed, but let this challenge challenge you to discover new films
- Optional: Please add year of release at a minimum. That makes it easier for me to provide some stats during the challenge.

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Official Lists
Czech/Slovak
Hungary
Poland
Poland (Lodz)
Romania
Unesco (174-188, 313-327, 568-582, 641-670, 716-786, 818-832)

Unofficial Lists
Top 100 East European films
icmforum's poll: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary
Balkans
Bosnia
Bulgaria
Croatia
Slovenia
Ukraine

Previous challenges
March 2016
September 2014
September 2012
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WinnersShow
10 sushantv10
09 flavo5000
08 mjf314
06 allisoncm
05 tourdesb
04 albajos
04 Armoreska
04 ataraxic
04 burneyfan
04 daviddoes
04 Kasparius
04 moviefreak
04 PeacefulAnarchy
04 3eyes
03 ChrisReynolds
03 Crinderman
03 klaus78
03 mightysparks
03 PUNQ
03 sortile9io
02 ArthurYanthar
02 Cinematiamo
02 Cocoa
02 frbrown
02 HVM
02 Jerome St-Jacques
02 kingink
02 kierkegaardian
02 Knaldskalle
02 Noporos
02 Perception de Ambiguity
01 aces
01 beavis
01 beeswax
01 brokenface
01 Buksemannen
01 Chemosh6969
01 cinephage
01 Cippenham
01 Dolwphin
01 esiersdale
01 EssexMutant
01 Fergenaprido
01 45MinuteZoom
01 globetrotter
01 ignatzkat
01 jdidaco
01 jvv
01 joachimt
01 Lilarcor
01 lillyjabry
01 nimimerkillinen
01 ormazd
01 Pain
01 Prat
01 psychotronicbeatnik
01 ryebass
01 SeanMX12
01 tarr
01 te18
01 themagician
01 WalterNeff
01 wuzzawuzz
01 zuma
RecordsShow
301 Horror (6) - mightysparks
189 Western (6) - PUNQ
145 Animation (5) - flavo5000
143 Sci-Fi/Fantasy (5) - flavo5000
133 Documentary (5) - tourdesb
123 Comedy - PeacefulAnarchy
120 Japanese (5) - themagician
115 Noir (5) - ormazd
107 1940s - sushantv10
106 Experimental/Avantgarde - Dolwphin
104 Cult/Drive-in (5) - te18
104 Degrees of Separation (3) - allisoncm
104 French (6) - Crinderman
101 Action - flavo5000
100 TSPDT (3) - albajos
096 Critics (2) - moviefreak
096 Latin American (2) - sortile9io
094 Samurai/Martial Arts (2) - Pain
091 Criterion (3) - Jerome St-Jacques
084 Academy Awards (6) - Armoreska
076 1950s - sushantv10
076 Pre-1930s aka Silent (4) - sushantv10
074 UK/Ireland (3) - Kasparius
071 1980s - Kasparius
070 German (3) - Crinderman
070 Women (3) - albajos
065 Russian (5) - Armoreska
065 UNESCO - joachimt
064 1990s - Nopros
062 2000s - moviefreak
058 2010s - cinephage
056 AFI - Jerome St-Jacques
056 Unofficial - allisoncm
055 1930s - moviefreak
055 Rosenbaum - lillyjabry
054 Chinese (3) - mjf314
054 Italian (3) - Cinematiamo
054 1960s - tourdesb
050 East European (3) - HVM
048 Australia/New Zealand (2) - mightysparks
047 Rewatch - Perception de Ambiguity
046 Conquering the World - PeacefulAnarchy
041 Harvard - ignatzkat
041 S Korean (2) - aces
039 Musical - sushantv10
039 1970s - burneyfan
036 Nordic/Benelux (3) - nimimerkillinen
036 Nordic/Benelux (3) - PeacefulAnarchy
035 Asian (2) - mjf314
035 Canadian - ryebass
035 Czech/Slovak - mjf314
035 Indian - sushantv10
029 History - beeswax
028 DtC - frbrown
027 LGBT+ - Fergenaprido
027 War - 3eyes
026 Spirituality/Religion - sushantv10
022 Polish - allisoncm
021 Mediterranean - globetrotter
021 Spanish (2) - sortile9io
020 African (3) - Knaldskalle
020 African (3) - Lilarcor
020 Middle East - ataraxic
020 Middle East - 3eyes
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Participants
01 tarr 21
02 jdidaco 18
03 hurluberlu 09
03 RogerTheMovieManiac88 09
03 72allinncallme 09

06 albajos 06
06 45MinuteZoom 06
08 Lilarcor 04
08 schwrz 04
10 Revo 03
10 3eyes 03
Mario Gaborović 02
cinephage 01
Cynical Cinephile 01
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#2

Post by Mario Gaborović » May 31st, 2017, 12:39 pm

I'll join.

Why don't you put my personal (unofficial) list for YU? The page you provided is non-existent, anyway.
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Post by albajos » May 31st, 2017, 12:43 pm

Mario Gaborović on May 31 2017, 06:39:37 AM wrote:I'll join.

Why don't you put my personal (unofficial) list for YU? The page you provided is non-existent, anyway.
It was linked in the previous EE challenge, as I wrote I'll check and add links when the challenge starts

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Post by nimimerkillinen » May 31st, 2017, 12:45 pm

in
there's no icm forums fave east europe movies list?
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Post by albajos » May 31st, 2017, 12:51 pm

nimimerkillinen on May 31 2017, 06:45:32 AM wrote:there's no icm forums fave east europe movies list?
I've only been here a year, but the only I can find is a poll with Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary
viewtopic.php?t=2469&1/
or
Top 150 on icm
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Post by Cynical Cinephile » May 31st, 2017, 1:06 pm

I'm in.
The truth is you're Donny, and I'm Walter. But I'm tryin', Ringo, I'm tryin' real hard to be The Dude.

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Post by Lilarcor » May 31st, 2017, 1:09 pm

In! Excited about this one, although I won't get a big number of films watched because of vacation after 22nd June.

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Post by albajos » May 31st, 2017, 1:23 pm

GoalShow
Czech: Dedictví aneb Kurvahosigutntag (1992), Obsluhoval jsem anglického krále (2006), Poland: Rozyczka (2010), Seksmisja (1984), and one cover without a DVD I have to find, Ukraine: Sappho (2008)

Outside of these I only own some animated shorts from Hungary and episodes of Krteček from Czechoslovakia. These plus whatever is left after TSPDT are everything I'll see (so I should be easy to beat)
All DVDs are bought in the country of origin, so I'm not even certain that they have subtitles. But I have only been in Czech Rep. (train/airport), Slovakia (train), Latvia (airport), Hungary, Poland and Ukraine so my collection is rather small
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Post by tarr » May 31st, 2017, 1:27 pm

I'm in. Got 31 films left on the Best Romanian Films list, and all of them seem to be available on yt, except one.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » May 31st, 2017, 1:56 pm

For me this would be mostly USSR exploration, as I already "graduated" on everything south-of-Hungary already. :)

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Post by 3eyes » May 31st, 2017, 2:04 pm

I will watch a couple.
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Post by nimimerkillinen » May 31st, 2017, 2:30 pm

albajos on May 31 2017, 06:51:08 AM wrote:
nimimerkillinen on May 31 2017, 06:45:32 AM wrote:there's no icm forums fave east europe movies list?
I've only been here a year, but the only I can find is a poll with Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary
viewtopic.php?t=2469&1/
or
Top 150 on icm
nice, cheers

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Post by frbrown » May 31st, 2017, 2:47 pm

I'll try to watch a couple, probably mostly war movies.
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Post by albajos » May 31st, 2017, 2:55 pm

yes, thanks. There are a bunch of lists in the two first times this challenge was held. I just copied the third. Will get to it when I have finished watching Shoah.

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Post by 45MinuteZoom » May 31st, 2017, 5:36 pm

I'm in. Want to watch some more Czech new wave movies.

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Post by 72allinncallme » May 31st, 2017, 5:40 pm

Have some war movies from EE that I want to see so you can count me in albajos.

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Post by Revo » May 31st, 2017, 9:57 pm

Wow! I haven't actually seen many Eastern European films before, so I guess this challenge will be good for me. The included lists highlights significant absentees, I'm mostly excited about Bulgarian and Ukrainian films, sounds really good for first encounter. Anyhow, I'm delighted that you are hosting this challenge, I can't wait to dive into it. Definitely in!
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Post by schwrz » May 31st, 2017, 11:47 pm

I'm in.

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Post by jdidaco » June 1st, 2017, 6:25 am

In!

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Post by cinephage » June 1st, 2017, 10:40 am

I have a busy schedule this month, but I intend to participate to this great challenge. :)
Thanks for hosting
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Post by 3eyes » June 1st, 2017, 10:49 am

Not sure this counts:

Sarajevo - Das Attentat (Austria / Czech Republic 2014)
(coproduction with Czech director, language mostly German with some Serbian, set in Bosnia-Herzegovina.)
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Post by Mario Gaborović » June 1st, 2017, 11:16 am

3eyes on Jun 1 2017, 04:49:31 AM wrote:Not sure this counts:

Sarajevo - Das Attentat (Austria / Czech Republic 2014)
(coproduction with Czech director, language mostly German with some Serbian, set in Bosnia-Herzegovina.)
Where did you find this film? I've been looking for it without success.

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Post by tarr » June 1st, 2017, 11:29 am

1. Dacii (Sergiu Nicolaescu, 1966) Romania 5/10
2. Nemuritorii (Sergiu Nicolaescu, 1974) Romania 5/10
3. Mihai Viteazul (Sergiu Nicolaescu, 1970) Romania 5.5/10

Nicolaescu is like the Spielberg of Romania, I don’t really get the hype. I’ve seen about a dozen of his movies and I only liked one.
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Post by albajos » June 1st, 2017, 12:58 pm

3eyes on Jun 1 2017, 04:49:31 AM wrote:Not sure this counts:

Sarajevo - Das Attentat (Austria / Czech Republic 2014)
(coproduction with Czech director, language mostly German with some Serbian, set in Bosnia-Herzegovina.)
It only says Austria on imdb

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Post by albajos » June 1st, 2017, 1:00 pm

01. Crna macka, beli macor (1998) (Emir Kusturica, Yugoslavia)
Kusturica is a strange one. I saw Underground and Arizona Dream in cinema 20 years ago. And Underground and Underground have been a favorite since then, but revisiting Kustutica now with Dom za vesanje i few days ago and Crna macka, beli macor they seem much more cultural obscure. Maybe I'll see Otac na sluzbenom putu this month to fisnish of the essentials, but I'm not as excited as back in 1995.

02. Przypadek (1987) (Krzysztof Kieslowski, Poland)
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Post by Mario Gaborović » June 1st, 2017, 1:33 pm

There was just too much propaganda in the Soviet days:

1. Mne dvadtsat let (Marlen Khutsiev, 1965) 7.5/10
2. Prividenie, kotoroe ne vozvrashchaetsya (Abram Room, 1930) - 4/10
3. V gorakh Yugoslavii (Abram Room, 1946) - 4.5/10
4. Papa, umer ded moroz (Yevgeny Yufit, 1991) - 5.5/10
5. Garazh (Eldar Ryazanov, 1979) - 3.5/10
6. Aleksandr Nevskiy (Dmitriy Vasilev, 1938) - 6.5/10
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1. Image Mne dvadtsat let (Marlen Khutsiev, 1965) 7.5/10
2. Image Prividenie, kotoroe ne vozvrashchaetsya (Abram Room, 1930) - 4/10
3. Image V gorakh Yugoslavii (Abram Room, 1946) - 4.5/10
4. Image Papa, umer ded moroz (Yevgeny Yufit, 1991) - 5.5/10
5. Image Garazh (Eldar Ryazanov, 1979) - 3.5/10
6. Image Aleksandr Nevskiy (Dmitriy Vasilev, 1938) - 6.5/10

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Post by albajos » June 1st, 2017, 1:52 pm

Wouldn't Soviet Union be part of the russian challenge? #3 is the only one in my list of eligible countries.
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Post by 3eyes » June 1st, 2017, 1:55 pm

albajos on Jun 1 2017, 07:52:42 AM wrote:Wouldn't Soviet Union be part of the russian challenge?
Yeah, if there were one, but there hasn't been since 2015.

re Sarajevo: OK, albajos, I won't count it.

@Mario: it's streaming on Netflix US.
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Post by albajos » June 1st, 2017, 1:59 pm

3eyes on Jun 1 2017, 07:55:41 AM wrote:but there hasn't been since 2015.
Well, as long it was an option in our democratic vote, I'm not bringing it in the back door.
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Post by 3eyes » June 1st, 2017, 2:15 pm

albajos on Jun 1 2017, 07:59:50 AM wrote:
3eyes on Jun 1 2017, 07:55:41 AM wrote:but there hasn't been since 2015.
Well, as long it was an option in our democratic vote, I'm not bringing it in the back door.
To my mind that's exactly why it should be included, but oh well.

Where does Greece belong in the scheme of things?
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Post by Mario Gaborović » June 1st, 2017, 3:06 pm

3eyes on Jun 1 2017, 08:15:16 AM wrote:
albajos on Jun 1 2017, 07:59:50 AM wrote:
3eyes on Jun 1 2017, 07:55:41 AM wrote:but there hasn't been since 2015.
Well, as long it was an option in our democratic vote, I'm not bringing it in the back door.
To my mind that's exactly why it should be included, but oh well.

Where does Greece belong in the scheme of things?
It's Southern Europe, but this and your inclusion of an Austrian film indicate you don't feel like watching Eastern European films at all... It sounds like "Hey guys I must be going home, my mom is calling me for a lunch" thing.

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Post by 3eyes » June 1st, 2017, 3:40 pm

Mario Gaborović on Jun 1 2017, 09:06:01 AM wrote:
3eyes on Jun 1 2017, 08:15:16 AM wrote:
albajos on Jun 1 2017, 07:59:50 AM wrote:Well, as long it was an option in our democratic vote, I'm not bringing it in the back door.
To my mind that's exactly why it should be included, but oh well.

Where does Greece belong in the scheme of things?
It's Southern Europe, but this and your inclusion of an Austrian film indicate you don't feel like watching Eastern European films at all... It sounds like "Hey guys I must be going home, my mom is calling me for a lunch" thing.
You're right, Mario. I watched Sarajevo for the war challenge and posted it here without a number in case anyone thought it did fit.
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Post by Revo » June 1st, 2017, 6:49 pm

1. The Goat Horn (1972) #Top12BulgarianFilms
Apparently, this film is a landmark in Bulgarian cinema. It starts with a very great introductory "This bloody story happened in the XVll century, It's starts with an act of violence" which changed dramatically the life of the young girl. Beyond the systematic quest for vengeance, and the historical oppressive rule of that time; the film drifts deeper into the meaning of violence on man's soul, and the physiological search of larger truth, in terms of gender and human consciousness. I was very astonished by the actress preference, her expressions and body language, especially, when her character developed to realize her true nature. Beautifully shot film, in the wild environment that leads to harsh episodes, definitely recommended.

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2. The Peach Thief (1964) #Top12BulgarianFilms
A doomed love story under the war ashes. This one is also considered one of the earliest works of Bulgarian cinema.
It takes a place at the end of World War ll, and it describes very bravely the condition of the human being, in times of war, sorrow, and loneliness. For me it was more than love affair. For example, the historical theme of Bulgaria defeat under the multi-pronged attack and the soldiers revolt. In terms of direction, Radev was very poetic, in many scenes.
Specially, the use of light and shadow to demonstrate, the characters complexity and their admirable love.

3. Reconstruction (1968) #BestRomanianFilms
This one is clearly an allegory of the oppressive Communist regime. In short, I didn't like the story, and the plot was a bit mysterious to me. But after awhile I realized that it's somehow a film inside a film, tackles themes like the abusive, authoritarian society and alcoholism. To be fair, some of the scenes were funny in some limits, but as a whole it was very boring film. I don't really understand how it's considered a masterpiece by others. It doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » June 1st, 2017, 7:16 pm

I watched around twenty Bulgarian films so far, and besides those canonical films I preferred Lyubimetz No.13 and Ritzar bez bronya the most. The first one it was me who translated it, I used Russian subs to pull it through the Google translate and later corrected by hearing (because Bulgarian is not very distant from Serbian, it's just spoken way faster; while reading Russian subs was also handy). I can provide you with links if you want to, Revo.

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Post by tarr » June 1st, 2017, 7:26 pm

4. Hirtia va fi albastra (Radu Munteanu, 2006) Romania 7/10
5. Cuibul de viespi (Horea Popescu, 1986) Romania 6/10
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1. Dacii (Sergiu Nicolaescu, 1966) Romania 5/10
2. Nemuritorii (Sergiu Nicolaescu, 1974) Romania 5/10
3. Mihai Viteazul (Sergiu Nicolaescu, 1970) Romania 5.5/10
4. Hirtia va fi albastra (Radu Munteanu, 2006) Romania 7/10
5. Cuibul de viespi (Horea Popescu, 1986) Romania 6/10
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Post by Revo » June 1st, 2017, 7:53 pm

Mario Gaborović on Jun 1 2017, 01:16:42 PM wrote:I watched around twenty Bulgarian films so far, and besides those canonical films I preferred Lyubimetz No.13 and Ritzar bez bronya the most. The first one it was me who translated it, I used Russian subs to pull it through the Google translate and later corrected by hearing (because Bulgarian is not very distant from Serbian, it's just spoken way faster; while reading Russian subs was also handy). I can provide you with links if you want to, Revo.
Oh! that's very nice of you. The second film looks very great! I actually don't have a big knowledge on such films. And the sad thing is that none of the libraries in my town, offer films to borrow. So I need to dig harder in google, in order to find some great films apply on this challenge. I'm afraid that I only speak Arabic and English, so your translation will not be helpful for me, but thanks for offering. :happy:
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Post by Mario Gaborović » June 1st, 2017, 8:01 pm

Revo on Jun 1 2017, 01:53:50 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Jun 1 2017, 01:16:42 PM wrote:I watched around twenty Bulgarian films so far, and besides those canonical films I preferred Lyubimetz No.13 and Ritzar bez bronya the most. The first one it was me who translated it, I used Russian subs to pull it through the Google translate and later corrected by hearing (because Bulgarian is not very distant from Serbian, it's just spoken way faster; while reading Russian subs was also handy). I can provide you with links if you want to, Revo.
Oh! that's very nice of you. The second film looks very great! I actually don't have a big knowledge on such films. And the sad thing is that none of the libraries in my town, offer films to borrow. So I need to dig harder in google, in order to find some great films apply on this challenge. I'm afraid that I only speak Arabic and English, so your translation will not be helpful for me, but thanks for offering. :happy:
What do you mean? I translated the film in English.

I saw the screenshots and thought "hey this one looks good, and it's a soccer flick"... Bulgarians being the lazyasses have no more than 30 films online with English subs, so I just used what I've got.

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Post by Revo » June 1st, 2017, 8:43 pm

Mario Gaborović on Jun 1 2017, 02:01:53 PM wrote:
Revo on Jun 1 2017, 01:53:50 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Jun 1 2017, 01:16:42 PM wrote:I watched around twenty Bulgarian films so far, and besides those canonical films I preferred Lyubimetz No.13 and Ritzar bez bronya the most. The first one it was me who translated it, I used Russian subs to pull it through the Google translate and later corrected by hearing (because Bulgarian is not very distant from Serbian, it's just spoken way faster; while reading Russian subs was also handy). I can provide you with links if you want to, Revo.
Oh! that's very nice of you. The second film looks very great! I actually don't have a big knowledge on such films. And the sad thing is that none of the libraries in my town, offer films to borrow. So I need to dig harder in google, in order to find some great films apply on this challenge. I'm afraid that I only speak Arabic and English, so your translation will not be helpful for me, but thanks for offering. :happy:
What do you mean? I translated the film in English.

I saw the screenshots and thought "hey this one looks good, and it's a soccer flick"... Bulgarians being the lazyasses have no more than 30 films online with English subs, so I just used what I've got.
Sorry! I thought that you translated the film in Serbian
I just received your message, great thank you mate!

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Post by Mario Gaborović » June 1st, 2017, 8:45 pm

The legendary Bulgarian actor Apostol Karamitev is in both films; he passed away from liver cancer in 1973, aged 50. Certainly one of the most handsome and talented actors around.

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