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Post by mightysparks » November 28th, 2013, 2:43 pm

I'm missing Tier 5 for some reason.

Tier 10: 100-80
Tier 9: 75-70
Tier 8: 65
Tier 7: 60
Tier 6: 55
Tier 4: 50
Tier 3: 45
Tier 2: 40
TIer 1: 35-0
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Post by St. Gloede » November 28th, 2013, 2:52 pm

Their "Tier" system is pretty dumb, would be much easier if people could themselves decide what they considered good, etc. Seems people get "punished" for being picky and not watching enough mediocre-bad films. Most crazy part is that they seem to think it's natural to watch equall levels of terrible films and great films. :huh:

Not that it's a big deal. Never used it for the tier system anyways.

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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 3:09 pm

jvv on Nov 28 2013, 07:34:40 AM wrote:I've only got 4 tiers.

Tier 10 (100, 90, 80)
Tier 6 (70)
Tier 2 (60)
Tier 1 (50, 40)
I'm not surprised that you got only 4 tiers but very much surprised that you have not rated anything below 40... :huh:

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Post by jvv » November 28th, 2013, 3:14 pm

tommy_leazaq on Nov 28 2013, 08:09:10 AM wrote:
jvv on Nov 28 2013, 07:34:40 AM wrote:I've only got 4 tiers.

Tier 10 (100, 90, 80)
Tier 6 (70)
Tier 2 (60)
Tier 1 (50, 40)
I'm not surprised that you got only 4 tiers but very much surprised that you have not rated anything below 40... :huh:
On Imdb I rate on a scale of 4 to 9 (and have my #1 favorite movie at 10, so it ends up on top when sorting).

Anything I manage to watch til the end gets at least a 4. :P

There are movies so painful I would rate them below 4, but I switch them off before they're finished, so I can't in good conscience rate them at all.

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Post by mightysparks » November 28th, 2013, 3:24 pm

Oh god, not one of THOSE people :P
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Post by Gershwin » November 28th, 2013, 3:39 pm

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Post by jvv » November 28th, 2013, 4:17 pm

mightysparks on Nov 28 2013, 08:24:35 AM wrote:Oh god, not one of THOSE people :P
Yes, one of those. :tongue:

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Post by plasma_birds » November 28th, 2013, 4:26 pm

St. Gloede on Nov 28 2013, 07:52:30 AM wrote:Their "Tier" system is pretty dumb, would be much easier if people could themselves decide what they considered good, etc. Seems people get "punished" for being picky and not watching enough mediocre-bad films. Most crazy part is that they seem to think it's natural to watch equall levels of terrible films and great films. :huh:

Not that it's a big deal. Never used it for the tier system anyways.
Yeah, it's theoretically a good idea but I always get fucked over where movies I have in the 60-70 bracket are in the same tier as other people's 30s-40s. Luckily you can at least edit where the red/yellow/green colors come in comes in handy for seeing your friends' opinions on films (not so much for comparing films in common though).

I still use it and enjoy it for cataloguing purposes though (my profile), I especially dig the way you can rate out of 100 which is an interesting and dynamic difference from most sites of a similar design.
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Post by mightysparks » November 28th, 2013, 4:30 pm

I still use my standard out of 10 ratings, but also include some .5 ratings for those in-between films. I just looked at your favourites and it was all red :D
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » November 28th, 2013, 6:21 pm

plasma_birds on Nov 28 2013, 09:26:28 AM wrote:
St. Gloede on Nov 28 2013, 07:52:30 AM wrote:Their "Tier" system is pretty dumb, would be much easier if people could themselves decide what they considered good, etc. Seems people get "punished" for being picky and not watching enough mediocre-bad films. Most crazy part is that they seem to think it's natural to watch equall levels of terrible films and great films. :huh:

Not that it's a big deal. Never used it for the tier system anyways.
Yeah, it's theoretically a good idea but I always get fucked over where movies I have in the 60-70 bracket are in the same tier as other people's 30s-40s. Luckily you can at least edit where the red/yellow/green colors come in comes in handy for seeing your friends' opinions on films (not so much for comparing films in common though).

I still use it and enjoy it for cataloguing purposes though (my profile), I especially dig the way you can rate out of 100 which is an interesting and dynamic difference from most sites of a similar design.
Nah, it works out. Those people just have dumb rating systems, with a few extreme exceptions it's not because they watch hundreds more bad movies than you.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » November 28th, 2013, 6:23 pm

brokenface on Nov 28 2013, 07:04:47 AM wrote:
St. Gloede on Nov 28 2013, 06:51:57 AM wrote:
brokenface on Nov 28 2013, 06:41:26 AM wrote:successfully managed to do IMDB import on Criticker, but it's quite annoying that it imports like this:

IMDB 4 -> Criticker 65
5 -> 68
6 -> 71
7 -> 73
8 -> 76
9 -> 80
As I said in the other thread, you need to reset your previous ratings.

I did so yesterday, but of course, then I couldn't export my vote history. Tried several times last night and today. Sent an error message to IMDb a few mins ago.
yeah but I didn't want to reset. It's only a few months worth, so I'm just going to edit them.
Using the batch edit in the imported collection it shouldn't take long to edit the scores.

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Post by allisoncm » November 28th, 2013, 6:40 pm

bal3x on Nov 28 2013, 04:29:03 AM wrote:
btw, Criticker IMDb import was down yesterday, back to normal today.
:shifty: Thank you for mentioning or I would never have known.

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Post by lisa- » December 1st, 2013, 12:04 pm

if you have relative comparisons like criticker, you'll have the problem that some people might see relatively more bad films than others. if you have absolute comparisons, you'll have the problem that people have different ways of rating movies. criticker has decided that the first issue is less of a problem than the second, and i agree with them.

also magmadiver, what are your best ten TCIs? i've often noticed your tiers seem to be a bit more messed up than most. :lol:
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Post by joachimt » December 1st, 2013, 3:31 pm

Very happy with my new Criticker account. :)

Nice to get some statistics very easy like:
Most checked directorsShow
Georges Méliès 141
Stan Brakhage 71
Alice Guy 61
Alfred Hitchcock 55
D.W. Griffith 49
Edwin S. Porter 49
James H. White 42
Jean-Luc Godard 34
Charles Chaplin 33
Steven Spielberg 30
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Georges Méliès 78
Samuel L. Jackson 64
Buster Keaton 45
Robert De Niro 40
Brad Pitt 39
Charles Chaplin 36
Bruce Willis 33
Morgan Freeman 33
Mel Blanc 32
Matt Damon 30
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Post by mightysparks » December 1st, 2013, 3:36 pm

I'm getting the feeling that you like Méliès.
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Post by brokenface » December 1st, 2013, 3:39 pm

I do like having those stats (IMDB should add stuff like that) but wish you could filter down to just feature films for that section.

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Post by joachimt » December 1st, 2013, 3:46 pm

mightysparks on Dec 1 2013, 08:36:12 AM wrote:I'm getting the feeling that you like Méliès.
Well, I've downloaded and seen the box with all his shorts. It was fun, but it's not like I spent a lot of time on it, 'cause most last only 1 minute. ;)
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Post by joachimt » December 2nd, 2013, 7:57 pm

Hasn't Criticker got an IMDB-import tool for movies, I mean if you want to add a movie to Criticker? Or is this the only way?
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » December 2nd, 2013, 8:08 pm

joachimt on Dec 2 2013, 12:57:14 PM wrote:Hasn't Criticker got an IMDB-import tool for movies, I mean if you want to add a movie to Criticker? Or is this the only way?
That's the only way. They actually do import info from imdb, so if you want you can fill in only the 4 required fields, title, imdb link, plot summary and poster/film image. If it's a movie you've seen it's pretty easy.

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Post by joachimt » December 2nd, 2013, 8:44 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Dec 2 2013, 01:08:43 PM wrote:
joachimt on Dec 2 2013, 12:57:14 PM wrote:Hasn't Criticker got an IMDB-import tool for movies, I mean if you want to add a movie to Criticker? Or is this the only way?
That's the only way. They actually do import info from imdb, so if you want you can fill in only the 4 required fields, title, imdb link, plot summary and poster/film image. If it's a movie you've seen it's pretty easy.
Alright, that's not so much work after all.

I only plan to do it for movies I've seen. Just checked Dad and Dave come to town and as far as I see, it's not on Criticker yet.
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Post by joachimt » April 8th, 2014, 3:02 pm

Does anyone feel uneasy when you rate a movie on Criticker a lot lower than the probable score? I can't help it. When the probable score is around 8 and I want to rate it 6, I start hesitating. Of course, I don't change my rating, because Criticker says I should, but in these cases, I always doubt my watching experience. Did I miss something? Am I not intelligent enough to 'get' this movie? That kind of questions go through my head.

Am I the only one who is so insecure about his ratings? :(
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Post by bal3x » April 8th, 2014, 3:05 pm

joachimt on Apr 8 2014, 09:02:35 AM wrote:Does anyone feel uneasy when you rate a movie on Criticker a lot lower than the probable score? I can't help it. When the probable score is around 8 and I want to rate it 6, I start hesitating. Of course, I don't change my rating, because Criticker says I should, but in these cases, I always doubt my watching experience. Did I miss something? Am I not intelligent enough to 'get' this movie? That kind of questions go through my head.

Am I the only one who is so insecure about his ratings? :(
Take it easy, bro, don't worry about shit like "probable score", it's just a number. I think we all have this feeling when rating stuff, but you don't need to feel insecure about your ratings, just rate as you feel right.

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Post by mightysparks » April 8th, 2014, 3:08 pm

My probable scores are always around 80, and my usual rating is around 40-50, so I don't think anything of it ^_^
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Post by brokenface » April 8th, 2014, 3:09 pm

joachimt on Apr 8 2014, 09:02:35 AM wrote:Does anyone feel uneasy when you rate a movie on Criticker a lot lower than the probable score? I can't help it. When the probable score is around 8 and I want to rate it 6, I start hesitating. Of course, I don't change my rating, because Criticker says I should, but in these cases, I always doubt my watching experience. Did I miss something? Am I not intelligent enough to 'get' this movie? That kind of questions go through my head.

Am I the only one who is so insecure about his ratings? :(
I get more unsettled when the probable score is spot-on for what I was going to give it. Am I so predictable <_<

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Post by Kasparius » April 8th, 2014, 3:17 pm

brokenface on Apr 8 2014, 09:09:26 AM wrote:
joachimt on Apr 8 2014, 09:02:35 AM wrote:Does anyone feel uneasy when you rate a movie on Criticker a lot lower than the probable score? I can't help it. When the probable score is around 8 and I want to rate it 6, I start hesitating. Of course, I don't change my rating, because Criticker says I should, but in these cases, I always doubt my watching experience. Did I miss something? Am I not intelligent enough to 'get' this movie? That kind of questions go through my head.

Am I the only one who is so insecure about his ratings? :(
I get more unsettled when the probable score is spot-on for what I was going to give it. Am I so predictable <_<
Yes. tehe

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Post by joachimt » April 8th, 2014, 3:28 pm

brokenface on Apr 8 2014, 09:09:26 AM wrote:
joachimt on Apr 8 2014, 09:02:35 AM wrote:Does anyone feel uneasy when you rate a movie on Criticker a lot lower than the probable score? I can't help it. When the probable score is around 8 and I want to rate it 6, I start hesitating. Of course, I don't change my rating, because Criticker says I should, but in these cases, I always doubt my watching experience. Did I miss something? Am I not intelligent enough to 'get' this movie? That kind of questions go through my head.

Am I the only one who is so insecure about his ratings? :(
I get more unsettled when the probable score is spot-on for what I was going to give it. Am I so predictable <_<
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I know it's just a number, but since the probable score really is different each time (not like mighty says, always around 80), I often wonder why that score is the way it is. I don't know the calculation they make. They compare your ratings with others and calculate a probable score based on users who rate similar to you (something like that). But do they for example take into account what your ratings are for other movies by the same director? My probable score for Sanjuro was 97, which can be explained by the fact that I've got a lot of 100's for Kurosawa movies. I ended up giving Sanjuro 80, good but certainly not among his greatest movies.

Sure, no important stuff, but sometimes my mind just can't stop thinking and I think about things that really doesn't matter. A lot of my ratings are gut feeling based and I'm fine with that. :)
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Post by mightysparks » April 8th, 2014, 3:37 pm

I think they are based on your friends ratings. Mine seem to be anyway, it doesn't take into account anything I've rated. Eg, my PSI for Ikiru is 86...
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Post by brokenface » April 8th, 2014, 3:38 pm

I just looked up some of my highest predicted scores and one on the first page with 90+ prediction was a Huillet-Straub film. if they factored in my ratings for other Huillet-Straub films (all very low indeed :D ) to any significant degree that would not be the case! must be mainly calculated from the people with most similar ratings.

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Post by brokenface » April 8th, 2014, 3:39 pm

Kasparius on Apr 8 2014, 09:17:31 AM wrote:
brokenface on Apr 8 2014, 09:09:26 AM wrote:
joachimt on Apr 8 2014, 09:02:35 AM wrote:Does anyone feel uneasy when you rate a movie on Criticker a lot lower than the probable score? I can't help it. When the probable score is around 8 and I want to rate it 6, I start hesitating. Of course, I don't change my rating, because Criticker says I should, but in these cases, I always doubt my watching experience. Did I miss something? Am I not intelligent enough to 'get' this movie? That kind of questions go through my head.

Am I the only one who is so insecure about his ratings? :(
I get more unsettled when the probable score is spot-on for what I was going to give it. Am I so predictable <_<
Yes. tehe
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Post by mightysparks » April 8th, 2014, 3:41 pm

Wait, not friends = TSIs. Here's an example of a film:

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I gave it 85, so feck the probable scores :P
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Post by joachimt » April 8th, 2014, 3:52 pm

But you are the most unpredictable rater of us all. Even Criticker can't make sense of it. :lol:
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Post by jeff_v » April 8th, 2014, 4:27 pm

Criticker is uncannily accurate, except when it isn't. Most of the time the PSI is very close (I use the entire 100 pt. scale), if not spot on. But when it makes a super high projection it usually whiffs.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » April 8th, 2014, 4:30 pm

joachimt on Apr 8 2014, 09:28:50 AM wrote:
brokenface on Apr 8 2014, 09:09:26 AM wrote:
joachimt on Apr 8 2014, 09:02:35 AM wrote:Does anyone feel uneasy when you rate a movie on Criticker a lot lower than the probable score? I can't help it. When the probable score is around 8 and I want to rate it 6, I start hesitating. Of course, I don't change my rating, because Criticker says I should, but in these cases, I always doubt my watching experience. Did I miss something? Am I not intelligent enough to 'get' this movie? That kind of questions go through my head.

Am I the only one who is so insecure about his ratings? :(
I get more unsettled when the probable score is spot-on for what I was going to give it. Am I so predictable <_<
:lol:



I know it's just a number, but since the probable score really is different each time (not like mighty says, always around 80), I often wonder why that score is the way it is. I don't know the calculation they make. They compare your ratings with others and calculate a probable score based on users who rate similar to you (something like that). But do they for example take into account what your ratings are for other movies by the same director? My probable score for Sanjuro was 97, which can be explained by the fact that I've got a lot of 100's for Kurosawa movies. I ended up giving Sanjuro 80, good but certainly not among his greatest movies.

Sure, no important stuff, but sometimes my mind just can't stop thinking and I think about things that really doesn't matter. A lot of my ratings are gut feeling based and I'm fine with that. :)
They take only the 10 scores of the people whose taste is closer to you. No other adjustments for genre director or anything else. I don't find myself thrown off when my score is way off what criticker predicts because it's usually clear why. The score may be more personal than an imdb rating, but it's still based on other people's tastes.

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Post by brokenface » June 1st, 2014, 12:46 pm

just noticed they added a feature to sort directors by % seen. quite nifty:

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Post by joachimt » June 1st, 2014, 2:42 pm

That's a cool feature indeed!
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Post by joachimt » September 19th, 2014, 7:54 pm

Is mjf333 on Criticker related to our own mjf314? (don't give me any upgrade-jokes now... ^_^ )
I just noticed mjf333 is my second best TCI.
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Post by Lilarcor » September 19th, 2014, 8:00 pm

joachimt on Sep 19 2014, 01:54:44 PM wrote:Is mjf333 on Criticker related to our own mjf314? (don't give me any upgrade-jokes now... ^_^ )
I just noticed mjf333 is my second best TCI.
He's my best TCI. Would be cool if it was him!

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » September 19th, 2014, 8:01 pm

joachimt on Sep 19 2014, 01:54:44 PM wrote:Is mjf333 on Criticker related to our own mjf314? (don't give me any upgrade-jokes now... ^_^ )
I just noticed mjf333 is my second best TCI.
I don't think so. Pretty sure the he said he wasn't the last time someone brought it up.

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Post by sebby » September 19th, 2014, 8:01 pm

joachimt on Sep 19 2014, 01:54:44 PM wrote:Is mjf333 on Criticker related to our own mjf314? (don't give me any upgrade-jokes now... ^_^ )
I just noticed mjf333 is my second best TCI.
Why yes, mjf333 is a newer iteration -- an upgrade, if you will :happy:

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » September 19th, 2014, 8:03 pm

mjf314 on Jun 7 2012, 09:53:50 PM wrote:
jvv on Jun 7 2012, 10:23:23 AM wrote:OK, so I finally made a profile too http://www.criticker.com/profile/jokevv

Only 3 of the people who posted here are in my Top 1000 TCIs

LifeAsFiction 2.2678 - 64
mjf333 2.4687 - 584
limedebois 2.4896 - 962

My best match is a guy from New Zealand

JakeFace 1.9374 - 1
mjf333 isn't me.
There it is, in this very thread.

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