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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » June 13th, 2012, 4:27 am

Crinderman on Jun 12 2012, 10:23:22 PM wrote:Also, most of the film pages I visit say "Not enough info", but after rating a film I get my PSI in the "Your PSI was" form. Makes zero sense.
Yeah, that makes no sense. Even if it's not generating PSIs automatically for some reason it should still generate them when you visit a film page. It has always done that for me, and still does.

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Post by St. Gloede » June 13th, 2012, 4:41 am

PeacefulAnarchy on Jun 12 2012, 10:25:36 PM wrote:Only your unranked films:
16 pages, 949 films, a decent portion in "red" though.
You can also use the filters on the film database page or any collection and choose sort by PSI.
Are you talking about the "Create Your Own Recommendation" box at the main page? It's glitched for me. Doesn't work.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » June 13th, 2012, 4:56 am

Crinderman on Jun 12 2012, 10:41:03 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Jun 12 2012, 10:25:36 PM wrote:Only your unranked films:
16 pages, 949 films, a decent portion in "red" though.
You can also use the filters on the film database page or any collection and choose sort by PSI.
Are you talking about the "Create Your Own Recommendation" box at the main page? It's glitched for me. Doesn't work.
I've got like 250 pages of PSIs, you should have at least 150.

The film database page is this one: http://www.criticker.com/?fl

A quicker way to generate PSIs is to go to this page: film database pre-2000 sorted by number of rankings and click the "Regenerate PSIs on this Page" button at the bottom. I go through the first 150 pages or so about twice a year to keep mi PSIs fresh. You can change the filter and do the same for the last decade as well. It only takes a couple of seconds per page so if the site is loading quickly it doesn't take too long.

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Post by St. Gloede » June 13th, 2012, 5:17 am

Great, this is working!

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Post by St. Gloede » June 13th, 2012, 11:17 am

Is there any way to see my highest scored PSIs? Perhaps only from certain decades or genres?

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Post by mightysparks » June 13th, 2012, 11:25 am

Yeah, go to the film database page: http://www.criticker.com/?fl and sort by PSI, you can change the filters as well. How do you not find these things yourself, little nooblet?
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Post by St. Gloede » June 13th, 2012, 2:02 pm

You answered your own question, did you not?

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Post by Mochard » June 14th, 2012, 12:48 am

My highest PSI for a sci-fi is 92 for this film - http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/das+millionenspiel/

It sounds quite good so I'm going to give it a go :)

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Post by mjf314 » June 14th, 2012, 11:00 am

Mochard on Jun 13 2012, 06:48:21 PM wrote:My highest PSI for a sci-fi is 92 for this film - http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/das+millionenspiel/

It sounds quite good so I'm going to give it a go :)
I remember finding that film awhile ago while searching for highly rated sci-fi TV movies on IMDb, but for some reason I never got around to watching it. Let us know what you think of it.

Two others that I found were Heart of a Dog and World on a Wire, both of which were good.

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Post by Mochard » June 14th, 2012, 6:14 pm

mjf314 on Jun 14 2012, 05:00:31 AM wrote:
Mochard on Jun 13 2012, 06:48:21 PM wrote:My highest PSI for a sci-fi is 92 for this film - http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/das+millionenspiel/

It sounds quite good so I'm going to give it a go :)
I remember finding that film awhile ago while searching for highly rated sci-fi TV movies on IMDb, but for some reason I never got around to watching it. Let us know what you think of it.

Two others that I found were Heart of a Dog and World on a Wire, both of which were good.
I watched it earlier today. I did enjoy it - I gave it an 82 (i think), 8.5 on here and an 8 on imdb. Decided to use it as my German entry for the around the world challenge. Some of it was a little far fetched and unrealistic but then it is a sci-fi plus it was a tv movie but saying that it was a good effort. All in all though I really liked it :)

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Post by Mochard » June 15th, 2012, 5:07 pm

Batch editing 76 pages of films is going to take sometime!!

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Post by mightysparks » June 29th, 2012, 4:34 pm

Been paying attention to other people's ratings from the forum and find it weird how different our tiers play out.

Mine are like this:
T10 (Awesome) - 100-80
T9 (Awesome) - 75
T8 (Great) - 70-65
T7 (Good) - 60
T6 -
T5 (Alright) - 55
T4 (Not that hot) - 50
T3 (Not good) - 45-40
T2 (Bad) - 35-30
T1 (Terrible) - 25-0

Strange that I have no T6. If 65 had been on T7 and 60 on T6 that would be a bit more accurate. I'm surprised how accurately it displays my 7s and 8s, as I always say that I love my 7s a lot but everyone else seems to think 7 is a low rating. But anyway, it's been helping me judge other people's ratings better.
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Post by Kowry » June 29th, 2012, 4:59 pm

Yeah, PeacefulAnarchy, whose reviews often pop up next to the films I'm going to rate, seems to be consistently giving at least ten points more than I for films that we seem to pretty much agree on. I have rated only about 150 films on the site yet, and some of those ratings were given a considerable time after watching the film, so I think some of the films have higher score I'd give them now. Plus, I think I haven't rated that many really bad films on the site, so some films are ranked lower tier-wise than they'd deserve to be (for example, I don't consider a film to be bad if I give it 60, although the site seems to think so). Anyway, my tiers are as follow:

T10 (awesome) - 95-90
T9 (awesome) - 88-85
T8 (great) - 82 (only three films on this tier for some reason)
T7 (good) - 80
T6 (decent) - 76-74
T5 (alright) - 73-72
T4 (not that hot) - 70
T3 (not good) - 68-62
T2 (bad) - 60-52
T1 (terrible) - 50-10

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Post by mightysparks » June 29th, 2012, 5:13 pm

Yeah my tiers seemed to sort themselves out after I imported everything. I've only rated in increments of 5 so I could sort out some ratings that were .5s in my head. I keep coming across old ratings that need to be fixed though.

I see Peaceful's reviews sometimes and I'll read them and think 'Sounds like a 50' and he's given it 70 :D Guess he's a little more generous with ratings than I am.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » June 29th, 2012, 5:53 pm

Yes, I'm relatively generous with my ratings. I've changed my scale on imdb so a 68-73 on criticker is actually a 6/10 but I'm not going back and changing all my criticker ratings. Plus I've gotten to the point where my Criticker scale is intuitive to me and I have a sense of what all the values mean. That's the nice thing about criticker's tiering system, as long as I'm consistent things work out.

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Post by tirefeet » December 3rd, 2012, 9:45 pm

Oh, Criticker is just great for its purpose.

http://www.criticker.com/profile/tirefeet/

Sadly, I have very few users from here on my TCI list and I didn't probably rank enough for appearing on your TCI lists, nearly all you guys ranked 10 times more than me :P

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » November 28th, 2013, 3:17 am

Moving this discussion over here.
allisoncm on wrote:That's fine. Just in case I forgot what my "precise" rating was, I could always update it or refer to it if I wanted. But it sounds like importing the IMDB votes from scratch is not going to help. I don't know. :mw_confused:
It should work, but it shouldn't be necessary. I just imported into my account full of rankings and it worked fine. It does take several minutes, though.
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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 4:02 am

In the direcotor's average rating section, we can see the directors from whome we have seen minimum of 3 films. Is there anyway to check for the directors from whom we have seen 1 or 2 films?

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » November 28th, 2013, 4:56 am

tommy_leazaq on Nov 27 2013, 09:02:07 PM wrote:In the direcotor's average rating section, we can see the directors from whome we have seen minimum of 3 films. Is there anyway to check for the directors from whom we have seen 1 or 2 films?
I don't think so.

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Post by bal3x » November 28th, 2013, 11:29 am

PeacefulAnarchy on Nov 27 2013, 09:56:48 PM wrote:
tommy_leazaq on Nov 27 2013, 09:02:07 PM wrote:In the direcotor's average rating section, we can see the directors from whome we have seen minimum of 3 films. Is there anyway to check for the directors from whom we have seen 1 or 2 films?
I don't think so.
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You can select any number of films under minimum.
btw, Criticker IMDb import was down yesterday, back to normal today.

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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 11:39 am

bal3x on Nov 28 2013, 04:29:03 AM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Nov 27 2013, 09:56:48 PM wrote:
tommy_leazaq on Nov 27 2013, 09:02:07 PM wrote:In the direcotor's average rating section, we can see the directors from whome we have seen minimum of 3 films. Is there anyway to check for the directors from whom we have seen 1 or 2 films?
I don't think so.
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No. It won't accept 1 or 2 there. If you give 1 or 2 as minimum it'll restore it to 3 and show directors with 3 films seen.

Or is it happening like this only to me?

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Post by bal3x » November 28th, 2013, 11:46 am

tommy_leazaq on Nov 28 2013, 04:39:01 AM wrote:
bal3x on Nov 28 2013, 04:29:03 AM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Nov 27 2013, 09:56:48 PM wrote:I don't think so.
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No. It won't accept 1 or 2 there. If you give 1 or 2 as minimum it'll restore it to 3 and show directors with 3 films seen.

Or is it happening like this only to me?
Oh, yeah, I guess you're right then so 3 is the minimum? But then again I think we discussed earlier that 3 films actually should be the minimum for inclusion under favorite directors unless it's someone like Charles Laughton who directed 2 films in total. Are there actually many directors you have seen 1-2 films from that you consider as favorite?

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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 12:34 pm

bal3x on Nov 28 2013, 04:46:04 AM wrote:Oh, yeah, I guess you're right then so 3 is the minimum? But then again I think we discussed earlier that 3 films actually should be the minimum for inclusion under favorite directors unless it's someone like Charles Laughton who directed 2 films in total. Are there actually many directors you have seen 1-2 films from that you consider as favorite?
Since I haven't watched many movies, I have 2 as the minimum. If I have to increase the minimum count from 2 to 3, I should ignore the likes of Shinoda, Wenders, Malle, Carpenter, Kiarostami, RWF, Teshigahara, Peckinpah, Cronenberg, Sjostrom, Tati, Melville, Aldrich, which I'd hate to do becuase I'm impressed with the 2 films I have seen from them.

And I'd like to know the directors whom I have seen just 1 movie and impressed with it so that I can watch one more from them in the remaining days to include them in my list. Jarmuch, Park Chan-Wook, Bong Joon-Ho, Kusturica, Dardennes, Casavettes, Ichikawa, Dassin, Naruse, Jafar Panahi are few of them who fits the criteria.

Quite sad that the likes of Haneke, von Trier, Tarr, Leigh, Varda, Claire Denis, Ophuls are unlikely to feature in my list as I haven't seen any movie from them and its unlikely that I'll be seeing any in the remaining 20 odd days.

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Post by Gershwin » November 28th, 2013, 12:39 pm

But how can you judge a director of if you've only seen 1 or 2 out of 20 films? :o
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Post by mightysparks » November 28th, 2013, 12:47 pm

How can you judge a director if they've only made 1 or 2 films? :P I think you can get a sense of 'potential', I've included some of those in my current list, but ranked lower than people I've seen more from. And I'll just have to wait and see...
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Post by jvv » November 28th, 2013, 12:49 pm

I'm using 3 as a minimum as well, but I include shorts in that. :whistling:

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Post by bal3x » November 28th, 2013, 1:17 pm

tommy_leazaq on Nov 28 2013, 05:34:43 AM wrote:
bal3x on Nov 28 2013, 04:46:04 AM wrote:Oh, yeah, I guess you're right then so 3 is the minimum? But then again I think we discussed earlier that 3 films actually should be the minimum for inclusion under favorite directors unless it's someone like Charles Laughton who directed 2 films in total. Are there actually many directors you have seen 1-2 films from that you consider as favorite?
Since I haven't watched many movies, I have 2 as the minimum. If I have to increase the minimum count from 2 to 3, I should ignore the likes of Shinoda, Wenders, Malle, Carpenter, Kiarostami, RWF, Teshigahara, Peckinpah, Cronenberg, Sjostrom, Tati, Melville, Aldrich, which I'd hate to do becuase I'm impressed with the 2 films I have seen from them.

And I'd like to know the directors whom I have seen just 1 movie and impressed with it so that I can watch one more from them in the remaining days to include them in my list. Jarmuch, Park Chan-Wook, Bong Joon-Ho, Kusturica, Dardennes, Casavettes, Ichikawa, Dassin, Naruse, Jafar Panahi are few of them who fits the criteria.

Quite sad that the likes of Haneke, von Trier, Tarr, Leigh, Varda, Claire Denis, Ophuls are unlikely to feature in my list as I haven't seen any movie from them and its unlikely that I'll be seeing any in the remaining 20 odd days.
Fair enough! Just watch some more from those guys ;)
And nothing sad about von Trier unlikely to feature on your list, - the less lists he makes, the better :D

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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 1:18 pm

Gershwin on Nov 28 2013, 05:39:46 AM wrote:But how can you judge a director of you've only seen 1 or 2 out of 20 films? :o
Ok, If I have to take 3 as minimum count, I'm left with 162 directors only and many of them are the likes of Michael Bay, Roland Emmerich, Stephen Sommers, Eglimez, Shyamalan, Disney/PIXAR/Dreamworks directors. You sure want them in my list? :P

On a serious note, Yes I can't fully judge a director from just 2 out of 20 movies. But the same can be said with 3 out of 30 movies, 5 out 50 movies, 8 out of 80 movies. Or just how many movies should we have to see from someone like Raoul Walsh, Michael Curtiz, JLG, who have 80+ films to their credit, to include them in the list.

IMO, it all depends on the instinct/gut feeling. If I have seen only 2 movies from a director and impressed with both of them and if I feel his/her filmography is very intereting that I'm willing to explore them without any hesitation, I'll consider him/her as my favorite without any question.

I'm not saying what I'm doing is the ideal method but it's the one that I am comfortable with especially given the fact that I haven't seen many movies. :)

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Post by bal3x » November 28th, 2013, 1:25 pm

Yeah, tommy, you make a good point actually since there are indeed directors that you have seen 2 films from (which is a small percentage of their entire output) yet the films might be so good that you want to include that director in your list. Larisa Shepitko is one such director for me, 2 films I've seen - one an absolute masterpiece (Voskhozhdeniye) and the other one pretty great (Krylya) so she certainly makes my list! In fact she would make my list based on Voskhozhdeniye alone.

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Post by Gershwin » November 28th, 2013, 1:32 pm

tommy_leazaq on Nov 28 2013, 06:18:00 AM wrote:(...)

On a serious note, Yes I can't fully judge a director from just 2 out of 20 movies. But the same can be said with 3 out of 30 movies, 5 out 50 movies, 8 out of 80 movies. (...)
This is not completely true. What I feel I need to judge a director (apart from gut feeling, which is very important indeed) is something like a cross-sectional view on his work. And that is even more complicated then "at least 3 films". Godard, for example, has 12 'early films', if I'm not mistaken, but they're not representative for his entire oeuvre. Therefore you'd better watch one film from each period instead of all his 'early films', if you want a good impression.

But I'm not judging you for choosing this method, of course. :) I'm just a very careful man. That's why I'm not sure if I'll hand in a list, because I feel it needs a lot to really be able to judge and compare different directors. That's much more difficult then judging individual films, and maybe ranking them.
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Post by mightysparks » November 28th, 2013, 1:34 pm

I like how we had a Criticker discussion on the director thread and now a director discussion on the Criticker thread :P
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Post by brokenface » November 28th, 2013, 1:41 pm

successfully managed to do IMDB import on Criticker, but it's quite annoying that it imports like this:

IMDB 4 -> Criticker 65
5 -> 68
6 -> 71
7 -> 73
8 -> 76
9 -> 80

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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 1:44 pm

Gershwin on Nov 28 2013, 06:32:53 AM wrote:Godard, for example, has 12 'early films', if I'm not mistaken, but they're not representative for his entire oeuvre. Therefore you'd better watch one film from each period instead of all his 'early films', if you want a good impression.
Agree and that's precisely why I have included JLG in my example. Since I can't go that deep for all directors, I'm just keeping my selection criteria simple.. :)

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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 1:47 pm

mightysparks on Nov 28 2013, 06:34:07 AM wrote:I like how we had a Criticker discussion on the director thread and now a director discussion on the Criticker thread :P
Yeah, I was about to post about it.. I was actually checking the director thread for a while for any replies on this discussion. :lol:

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Post by St. Gloede » November 28th, 2013, 1:51 pm

brokenface on Nov 28 2013, 06:41:26 AM wrote:successfully managed to do IMDB import on Criticker, but it's quite annoying that it imports like this:

IMDB 4 -> Criticker 65
5 -> 68
6 -> 71
7 -> 73
8 -> 76
9 -> 80
As I said in the other thread, you need to reset your previous ratings.

I did so yesterday, but of course, then I couldn't export my vote history. Tried several times last night and today. Sent an error message to IMDb a few mins ago.

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Post by mightysparks » November 28th, 2013, 1:56 pm

St. Gloede on Nov 28 2013, 06:51:57 AM wrote:
brokenface on Nov 28 2013, 06:41:26 AM wrote:successfully managed to do IMDB import on Criticker, but it's quite annoying that it imports like this:

IMDB 4 -> Criticker 65
5 -> 68
6 -> 71
7 -> 73
8 -> 76
9 -> 80
As I said in the other thread, you need to reset your previous ratings.

I did so yesterday, but of course, then I couldn't export my vote history. Tried several times last night and today. Sent an error message to IMDb a few mins ago.
It does it based on your current rankings. My 8s get turned into 65 and my 4s get turned into 50s :(
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Post by brokenface » November 28th, 2013, 2:04 pm

St. Gloede on Nov 28 2013, 06:51:57 AM wrote:
brokenface on Nov 28 2013, 06:41:26 AM wrote:successfully managed to do IMDB import on Criticker, but it's quite annoying that it imports like this:

IMDB 4 -> Criticker 65
5 -> 68
6 -> 71
7 -> 73
8 -> 76
9 -> 80
As I said in the other thread, you need to reset your previous ratings.

I did so yesterday, but of course, then I couldn't export my vote history. Tried several times last night and today. Sent an error message to IMDb a few mins ago.
yeah but I didn't want to reset. It's only a few months worth, so I'm just going to edit them.

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Post by tommy_leazaq » November 28th, 2013, 2:05 pm

One annoying thing in Criticker is the way its allocating Tiers for my rating.. I only have 5 tiers now. As of now my ratings are multiples of 10 only. And here is how my tiers are

Tier 10 (100, 90, 80)
Tier 7 (70)
Tier 5 (60)
Tier 2 (50)
Tier 1 (10, 20, 30, 40)


Will the tiers change appropriately if I rate out of 100, instaed of the current system of "out of 10 and multiplied by 10".
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Post by tirefeet » November 28th, 2013, 2:16 pm

tommy_leazaq on Nov 28 2013, 07:05:38 AM wrote:
Will the tiers change appropriately if I rate out of 100, instaed of the current system of "out of 10 and multiplied by 10".
Yeah, probably. If you make some of those 70's 69, 71, 72, etc. you'll get tiers 8 and 9 as well.

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Post by jvv » November 28th, 2013, 2:34 pm

tommy_leazaq on Nov 28 2013, 07:05:38 AM wrote:One annoying thing in Criticker is the way its allocating Tiers for my rating.. I only have 5 tiers now. As of now my ratings are multiples of 10 only. And here is how my tiers are

Tier 10 (100, 90, 80)
Tier 7 (70)
Tier 5 (60)
Tier 2 (50)
Tier 1 (10, 20, 30, 40)


Will the tiers change appropriately if I rate out of 100, instaed of the current system of "out of 10 and multiplied by 10".
I've only got 4 tiers.

Tier 10 (100, 90, 80)
Tier 6 (70)
Tier 2 (60)
Tier 1 (50, 40)

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