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Hiroki is one that I've downloaded quite a few of his films but for some bizarre have yet to watch any of them. I tend to tailor my viewings to challenges a lot and I guess many of his films haven't slotted easily into any of the challenges we've had so far. Of course, the Japan challenge is next month, so I'll need to work some in.
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Also I hate I missed out on several of the other directors like Hitchcock, Wilder and Kim Ki-Duk. I kinda tuned out of the thread around Rivette because personally I'm not a fan of his at all.
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Hiroki Ryuichi

★★★★¾ | 9.6
01. Vibrator (2003) (#14)

★★★★ | 8.4
02. I Am an S+M Writer (2000) (#168)
03. Love on Sunday (2006) (#177)
04. Her Granddaughter (2014) (#182)

★★★¾ | 8.0
05. Kabukichō Love Hotel (2014) (#235)

★★★¼ | 7.2
06. It’s Only Talk (2005)

★★★ | 6.8
07. The Miracles of the Namiya General Store (2017)
08. Tokyo Trash Baby (2000)

N/R
09. Drive till You See the Sun, segment from “Female” (2005)


(#...) = ranking in My Personal Toplist of Japanese Cinema on iCheckMovies.
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Before we start with the memory of Satyajit Ray's birthday tomorrow, I write a few more lines about Hiroki who seems to be completely unknown to the community...

As a Japanese film buff B) , I have seen relatively little of his filmography. I own five of the titles I included in my list on DVD (although I had already seen one of those titles at the IFFR). There is a triptych out on Kimstim (R1) and I have two DVDs from Hong Kong (R3).

I have seen the other four titles at Japanese film festivals in the Netherlands: Dejima and Camera Japan. In the year (2015) that beavis missed Kabukichō Love Hotel at CJ due to illness Her Granddaughter was also showing. Hiroki Ryuichi's work is shown irregularly and hard to find, so I am happy that his new film is on Netflix, although its synopsis does not immediately sounds appealing.

There are a few more titles with English subtitles released on DVD in Japan, but they are frankly too expensive for me. And although I highly value his work, Hiroki has never become a director that I put a lot of effort into to see more of. Actually,"Girlfriend: Someone Please Stop the World" is the only Hiroki-title on my Japanse wish list, but as far as I know it is not available with subtitles.
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And the other issue discussed here:

I find it difficult to compare Hiroki with some other (Japanese) director. Iwai Shunji and Lee Sang-il came first to mind, because of the coming-of-age theme, but there are many directors who have done similar things. I can partly understand a comparison with Aoyama Shinji, but he has also done completely different things. You could also have mentioned Ishii Yuya, Matsui Daigo, Yukisada Isao or Yoshida Daihachi to name a few. As well as all other contemporary Japanese directors. :D Josee the Tiger and the Fish is a title that comes to mind as a typical Hiroki-movie, not made by Hiroki Ryuichi <_< . Or: Her Love Boils Bathwater, Their Distance, The Pieta in the Toilet etc etc. Typical Japanese and yet something unique. Something like that??? Too much talented girls and boys out there!!
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Nice!
I also have Bakushi on dvd, the most underseen of the bunch ;)
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I'll suggest Mike Leigh, who I became obsessed with during the Run the Director challenge last year. Here's something I wrote about one of his movies during the Run the Director challenge this year
While watching this movie, Sherwood Anderson's great novel Winesburg, Ohio came to mind because of its focus on characters described as "grotesqueries." The feeling seemed familiar, and I searched old posts to confirm that, yes, I made the same comparison a year ago when watching another Mike Leigh movie. Leigh's great talent is that while we initially may find his characters grotesque, we eventually begin recognizing parts of ourselves in them.

Superlative
Vera Drake
Peterloo

Very Good
Life Is Sweet
Secrets & Lies
All or Nothing
Happy-Go-Lucky
Another Year

Good
High Hopes
Mr. Turner

OK
Naked
Topsy-Turvy

Misfires
Career Girls
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I've still seen embarrassingly few Mike Leigh films, including some of his most acclaimed.

Naked 9
Secrets & Lies 8.5
Topsy-Turvy 6.5
Vera Drake 9.5
Happy-Go-Lucky* 9
Another Year* 9
Mr. Turner 7.5

That's a lot of '9's.

*seen in theaters

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I had already suggested Ray... :(

anyway, just woke up, and had planned to see a Ray movie before posting here anyway, so I'll see later today what I can/should post now
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1. 8.2 - Secrets & Lies (1996)
2. 8.0 - Vera Drake (2004)
(3. 7.8 - A Sense of History (1992))

I don't know why I've seen so little of his work (both features were seen only in the last two years), considering how acclaimed he is. I've quite enjoyed him so far, and I'm sure I'll enjoy more of his work when I get around to it. Maybe I'll prioritize him more this year. I've got Naked and Happy-Go-Lucky lying around, plus Nuts in May and Grown-Ups (two of his tv anthology films).
beavis wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 4:29 am I had already suggested Ray... :(

anyway, just woke up, and had planned to see a Ray movie before posting here anyway, so I'll see later today what I can/should post now
Yeah, I thought Ray was coming up too, but I forgot which day it was. I got it mixed up with May the Fourth.

I don't usually pay attention to director birthdays or death anniversaries, but I think I'll watch a Ray film tomorrow too, which will bring me up to 7 features.
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10/10
Naked (1993)
Secrets & Lies (1996)

8/10
Life Is Sweet (1990)
Vera Drake (2004)
Play for Today: Nuts in May (1976)
Another Year (2010)

7/10
High Hopes (1988)
Play for Today: Abigail's Party (1977)
A Sense of History (1992)
Mr. Turner (2014)
Topsy-Turvy (1999)

6/10
Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)
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On the day of Satyajit Ray’s 100th birthday anniversary we’re ranking… Mike Leigh? Well it’s better to watch one of Ray’s movies than to make a list of it, I guess.. I suggest Ray will be our next guest of honour.

Without further ado, these are my votes on Mike Leigh!

★★★★½ | 9.2
01. Naked (1993)

★★★★¼ | 8.8
02. Bleak Moments (1971)

★★★★ | 8.4
03. All or Nothing (2002)
04. Secrets & Lies (1996)

★★★¾ | 8.0
05. High Hopes (1988)
06. Mr. Turner (2014)

★★★½ | 7.6
07. Another Year (2010)
08. Life Is Sweet (1990)
09. Vera Drake (2004)

★★★¼ | 7.2
10. Topsy-Turvy (1999)

★★★ | 6.8
11. Peterloo (2018)
12. Happy-Go-Lucky (2007)
13. Meantime (1983|TV)

★★¾ | 6.4
14. Grown-ups (1980|TV)

★★½ | 6.0
15. Nuts in May (1976|TV)
16. Career Girls (1997)

★★¼ | 5.5
17. Abigail’s Party (1977|TV)

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The Short & Curlies (1987) short
A Sense of History (1992) short
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Mike Leigh

1. Career Girls (1997) 8

2. Naked (1993) 7
3. Mr. Turner (2014)
4. Vera Drake (2004)
5. Secrets & Lies (1996)

6. Happy-Go-Lucky (2008) 6
7. All or Nothing (2002)
8. Another Year (2010)
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01. 3.5* - Naked
02. 0.5* - Secrets & Lies

After Secrets & Lies (and probably after seeing the poster of Vera Drake), I kinda gave up on him.
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blocho wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 2:33 am I'll suggest Mike Leigh, who I became obsessed with during the Run the Director challenge last year. Here's something I wrote about one of his movies during the Run the Director challenge this year
While watching this movie, Sherwood Anderson's great novel Winesburg, Ohio came to mind because of its focus on characters described as "grotesqueries." The feeling seemed familiar, and I searched old posts to confirm that, yes, I made the same comparison a year ago when watching another Mike Leigh movie. Leigh's great talent is that while we initially may find his characters grotesque, we eventually begin recognizing parts of ourselves in them.

Superlative
Vera Drake
Peterloo

Very Good
Life Is Sweet
Secrets & Lies
All or Nothing
Happy-Go-Lucky
Another Year

Good
High Hopes
Mr. Turner

OK
Naked
Topsy-Turvy

Misfires
Career Girls
I haven't seen your two favorites by Leigh, but I have seen 7 of the others, and consider him to be a very good filmmaker. You seem to like straightforward, dramatic realism with a message, which is at times not as imaginative or cinematic as the films I tend to prefer, though coming from a background in literature and creative writing, myself, I also like well developed narratives with good characters, and Leigh is one of the better more traditional writer / directors of past 30 years:

The 9's: Which means Excellent
Secret And Lies
Naked

The 8's + which means Very good to excellent
All or Nothing

The 7's + which means Good - Very good
Life is Sweet
Topsy Turvy
Happy Go Lucky
Another Year
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Mike Leigh is not a director I have built up a strong relationship with and we are just not quite on the same wavelength, unlike say Ken Loach:

8/10
Secrets & Lies (1996)
Another Year (2010)
All or Nothing (2002)

7/10
Vera Drake (2004)
Life Is Sweet (1990)

6/10
Naked (1993)
Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)
Topsy-Turvy (1999)
High Hopes (1988)

5/10
Nuts in May (1976)
Bleak Moments (1971)
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A Sense of History is the best thing Leigh’s done
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yllow wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 2:41 pm A Sense of History is the best thing Leigh’s done
It's only 25 minutes long, an official check and commonly ranked in best short films, plus freely available on Youtube, so don't wait any longer and go check it! :sweat:
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9/10
Secrets & Lies (1996)

8/10
Vera Drake (2004)
Nuts in May (1976)

7/10
Abigail's Party (1977)
All or Nothing (2002)

6/10
Another Year (2010)
Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)

5/10
Mr. Turner (2014)
Naked (1993)

Those early TV movies are worth watching.
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Not seen that much. Have liked what I've seen in general but just haven't ever made an effort to catch up with him. As before * indicates a theatrical viewing; haven't seen any of these more than once as far as I can recall. The only ones I've seen within the last decade are 1, 2 and 9.

GREAT
1. A Sense of History

EXCELLENT
2. Topsy-Turvy
3. Happy-Go-Lucky*
4. Naked*

VERY GOOD
5. Secrets & Lies*

GOOD
6. Life is Sweet*
7. High Hopes*
8. Career Girls

OK
9. Peterloo*
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A solid director! His usual group of actors is very good and they can come across realistically while still having an undercurrent of absurdity / comedy in a lot of the movies. My MovieMeter scores are out of 5 stars, from 2011 onward I also rate on Whatiwatch on a rank out of 10. I included both rankings here, so it is obvious that other than keeping up with his recent work, I haven't seen his best in quite a while now. So for the first three, which are very similar and for me the quintessential Leigh films, I am not so sure of my rankings... (also I don't rate and therefor not rank short movies, but I did see the excellent Sense of History too).

1 - Another Year (2010) - 4 -
2 - Secrets & Lies (1996) - 4 -
3 - All or Nothing (2002) - 4 -

4 - Naked (1993) - 4 -
5 - Nuts in May (1976) - 4 - 8
6 - Mr. Turner (2014) - 4 - 8
7 - Peterloo (2018) - 4 - 7,5
8 - Happy-Go-Lucky (2008) - 3,5 -
9 - Abigail's Party (1977) - 3,5 - 7
10 - Bleak Moments (1972) - 3,5 - 7
11 - Topsy-Turvy (1999) - 3,5 -
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I like Mike Leigh, but can sometimes grate if not in the mood. Would imagine some doesn't translate as well for non UK audiences. Think I've seen everything except some of his TV stuff

8+
Nuts in May
Naked
A Sense of History
Vera Drake

7+
Abigail's Party
Life is Sweet
Another Year
Bleak Moments
Topsy Turvy
Career Girls
Meantime

6+
Secrets and Lies
The Short & Curlies
Peterloo
Hard Labour
Mr Turner
All or Nothing
High Hopes
A Running Jump

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1. Vera Drake (2004) 8
2. Happy-Go-Lucky (2008) 6
3. Secrets & Lies (1996) 5
4. Naked (1993) 5
5. Topsy-Turvy (1999) 5
6. Another Year (2010) 4
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Mike Leigh
Seen: 12, average rating: 7.7

Someone I also would describe as a consistently good director, but who hasn't made a masterpiece that totally blew me away (yet). That apart from the short and Topsy-Turvy I rated all movies a 8 on IMDb sums it up pretty well.

1. Topsy-Turvy (1999): 8.5
2. Naked (1993): 8.5
3. Secrets & Lies (1996): 8.2
4. Another Year (2010): 8.2
5. Happy-Go-Lucky (2008): 8.0
6. Life Is Sweet (1990): 8.0
7. All or Nothing (2002): 8.0
8. Mr. Turner (2014): 7.8
9. High Hopes (1988): 7.5
10. A Sense of History (1992): 7.2
11. A Running Jump (2012): 6.8
12. The Short & Curlies (1987): 6.2
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Mike Leigh

I'm surprised at the mostly low rankings of 'Happy-Go-Lucky' since it's the only one I can say I really liked. But then I've only seen 4...

8/10
1. Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)

6/10
2. Vera Drake (2004)
3. Secrets & Lies (1996)
4. Naked (1993)
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Torgo wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 2:47 pm
yllow wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 2:41 pm A Sense of History is the best thing Leigh’s done
It's only 25 minutes long, an official check and commonly ranked in best short films, plus freely available on Youtube, so don't wait any longer and go check it! :sweat:
Definitely. OldAle is the truthsayer.
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insomnius wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 12:35 pm I'm surprised at the mostly low rankings of 'Happy-Go-Lucky' since it's the only one I can say I really liked. But then I've only seen 4...
I think it's a bit love-hate, depending on how well you like the main character.
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yllow wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 1:26 pm
Torgo wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 2:47 pm
yllow wrote: May 2nd, 2021, 2:41 pm A Sense of History is the best thing Leigh’s done
It's only 25 minutes long, an official check and commonly ranked in best short films, plus freely available on Youtube, so don't wait any longer and go check it! :sweat:
Definitely. OldAle is the truthsayer.
Sometimes I am, I hope. I really didn't know about this film - like I said, haven't kept up with or followed Leigh in particular - so I didn't see it until it popped up as a DTC nominee three years ago, and here's what I wrote then:

A Sense of History (Mike Leigh, 1992) Jim Broadbent (who also scripted) is the 23rd Earl of Leethe, taking us on a guided tour of his 900-year-old property and giving us a sense of both his own increasingly warped personal history, and a sense of the destructive, vindictive, hateful, arrogant and completely selfish concepts of feudalism and the ur-capitalism and that have kept so much of the world's land and wealth in the hands of a greedy few. This is a brilliant, often hilarious but also surprisingly moving portrait of a monstrous, over-the-top and yet quite believable person of undeserved privilege, and one of the greatest satires on power that I've ever seen. Absolutely a masterpiece.

You know, most of my favorite films are just favorites, and while I think some of them have something meaningful to say about cinema or the world, or are important in the context of this art form and it's history, few of them are capable of really making people think and maybe re-consider their world and culture and history. For some people no films are - film is just entertainment, period, and it has no meaning outside that. For everybody else though, I think there are just a few films - and I would put Paths of Glory, Shoah and Do the Right Thing up there as examples - that we might hope could dig deep into human "souls" if we believe in that, and get at what's really important. This belongs in that category.
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Didn’t actually see it until a few years ago myself, should be better known!
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brokenface wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 1:50 pm
insomnius wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 12:35 pm I'm surprised at the mostly low rankings of 'Happy-Go-Lucky' since it's the only one I can say I really liked. But then I've only seen 4...
I think it's a bit love-hate, depending on how well you like the main character.
Agree. I loved it, but I could see how it would turn off some people. It definitely feels like the most prescriptive Leigh movie I've seen.
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blocho wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:37 pm
brokenface wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 1:50 pm
insomnius wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 12:35 pm I'm surprised at the mostly low rankings of 'Happy-Go-Lucky' since it's the only one I can say I really liked. But then I've only seen 4...
I think it's a bit love-hate, depending on how well you like the main character.
Agree. I loved it, but I could see how it would turn off some people. It definitely feels like the most prescriptive Leigh movie I've seen.
Sally Hawkins' and Eddie Marsan's characters are pretty difficult to deal with - for opposite reasons - and I think that's a big part of the problem for a lot of people. But I think we need more of these extreme (yet realistic) sorts of behaviors in movies - they certainly appear a lot in real life. I've had several friends who were absolutely like Poppy in many ways - and they had problems with people who just couldn't deal with their Pollyanna optimism, including me. It's hard to portray that in film or tv, it throws things off, but the world is full of people that really don't fit into the boxes we normally see on screen and we're the better for it when somebody like Mike Leigh - who can empathize with even the Marsan character - is willing to throw them out there in front of us and say "see what you make of this". Most writers and directors don't have the guts to create such aberrations from the norm, or can only use such characters as minor weirdos in a film where somebody more emotionally ordinary is the lead.
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OldAle1 wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 5:15 pm
blocho wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 4:37 pm
brokenface wrote: May 3rd, 2021, 1:50 pm

I think it's a bit love-hate, depending on how well you like the main character.
Agree. I loved it, but I could see how it would turn off some people. It definitely feels like the most prescriptive Leigh movie I've seen.
Sally Hawkins' and Eddie Marsan's characters are pretty difficult to deal with - for opposite reasons - and I think that's a big part of the problem for a lot of people. But I think we need more of these extreme (yet realistic) sorts of behaviors in movies - they certainly appear a lot in real life. I've had several friends who were absolutely like Poppy in many ways - and they had problems with people who just couldn't deal with their Pollyanna optimism, including me. It's hard to portray that in film or tv, it throws things off, but the world is full of people that really don't fit into the boxes we normally see on screen and we're the better for it when somebody like Mike Leigh - who can empathize with even the Marsan character - is willing to throw them out there in front of us and say "see what you make of this". Most writers and directors don't have the guts to create such aberrations from the norm, or can only use such characters as minor weirdos in a film where somebody more emotionally ordinary is the lead.
And I think you've highlighted one of the reasons that some people don't care for Leigh. Many of his characters are really out there. And if they weren't typically acted with such authenticity and empathy, they would be intolerable. I tend to think these characters are realistic and not altogether rare. It's just that people tend to hide parts of themselves to all but the people they know best. But having worked as a teacher and in HR (both professions where you work with hundreds of people on a daily basis and often become aware of their personal difficulties and quirks), I know that individual peculiarities abound.
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Satyajit Ray https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006249/
With a little bit of a delay after his 100th birthday and a little bit before the birthday of his main inspiration Tagore (160th), it's time for Ray! :)
One of the first directors from India people seek out, as did I. He wasn't an instant favorite though. The Apu trilogy was the wrong kind of neo-realism inspired movie (or at the wrong time...?) for me. But I keep getting back to him and am not done yet. I think he can rightfully be called the most important director from India.

1 - Ashani Sanket ( Distant Thunder ) - 1973 - 8,5
2 - Ghare Baire ( The Home and The World ) - 1984 - 8,5
3 - Charulata ( The Lonely Wife ) - 1964 - 8,5
4 - Shatranj Ke Khilari ( The Chess Players ) - 1977 - 8
5 - Pratidwandi ( The Adversary ) - 1970 - 8
6 - Nayak ( The Hero ) - 1966 - 8
7 - Abhijan ( The Expedition ) - 1962 - 7,5
8 - Devi ( The Goddess ) - 1960 - 7,5
9 - Jalsaghar ( The Music Room ) - 1958 - 7,5
10 - Mahanagar ( The Big City ) - 1963 - 7,5
11 - Mahapurush ( The Holy Man ) - 1965 - 7,5
12 - Teen Kanya ( Three Daughters ) - 1961 - 7,5
13 - Seemabaddha ( Company Limited ) - 1971 - 7,5
14 - Aranyer Din Ratri ( Days and Nights in the Forest ) - 1969 - 7
15 - Pather Panchali ( A Song of the Little Road ) - 1955 - 7
16 - Aparajito ( The Unvanquished ) - 1956 - 7
17 - Rabindranath Tagore dagger ( Rabindranath Tagore ) - 1961 - 7
18 - Agantuk ( The Stranger ) - 1992 - 5,5
19 - Apur Sansar ( The World of Apu ) - 1959 - 5
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Satyajit Ray was my introduction to Indian cinema, as I am sure he is for many, and is to date the Indian director I have seen the most from. I have yet to see his 5 shorts (see my life-long semi-aversion to shorts) but I have caught all his 32 feature-length films at this point. With the exception of my recent rewatch of The Music Room it has been years since I saw most of these. The Music Room had a major jump in my estimation so it is quite possible that my opinion of him, or at least the classics I did not love, such as Charulata, Mahanagar and Days and Nights in the Forest.

9s
Abhijaan / The Expedition (1962)
Jana Aranya / The Middleman (1976)

8.5s
Pratidwandi / The Adversary (1971)
Apur Sansar / The World of Apu (1959)
Pather Panchali (1955)
Nayak / The Hero (1966)
Agantuk / The Visitor (1991)
Kapurush / The Coward (1965)
Aparajito / The Unvanquished (1956)

8s
Devi / The Goddess (1960)
Jalsaghar / The Music Room (1958)
Ganashatru / An Enemy of the People (1989)
Ghare-Baire / The Home and the World (1984)
Sonar Kella / The Golden Fortress (1974)
Seemabaddha / Company Limited (1974)
Shakha Proshakha / Branches of the Tree (1990)
Shatranj Ke Khilari / The Chess Players (1977)
Teen Kanya / Three Daughters (1961)

7.5
Sikkim (1971)
Rabindranath Tagore (1961)
Mahanagar / The Big City (1964)
Sadgati / Deliverance (1984)

7s
Kanchenjungha (1962)
Joi Baba Felunath / The Elephant God (1979)
Aranyer Din Ratri / Days and Nights in the Forest (1970)

6.5s
Charulata / The Lonely Wife (1964)

6s
27. Mahapurush / The Holy Man (1965)
Ashani Sanket / Distant Thunder (1973)
Chiriyakhana / The Zoo (1967)

5.5s
Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne (1969)

5s
Heerak Rajar Deshe / The Kingdom of Diamonds (1980)
Parash Pathar / The Philosopher's Stone (1958)
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Satyajit Ray

Aparajito 8
The World of Apu
The Music Room
The Goddess
Pather Panchali

The Stranger 7
The Chess Players
The Big City
Days and Nights in the Forest
Distant Thunder
The Home and the World

Nayak: The Hero 6
The Coward

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Satyajit Ray

01. 1.5* - The World of Apu
02. 1.5* - Aparajito
03. 1.0* - The Music Room
04. 1.0* - Pather Panchali

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Now the time has come for a belated tribute to Satyajit Ray!!

Although I have seen quite a lot of Indian (Bollywood + Parallel) cinema… still almost 1 out of 6 Indian films is one directed by Satyajit Ray. Ray is one of my favourite directors, ranking somewhere between #20 - #25 in my (non existent) favourite-director-list, I guess.


★★★★¾ | 9.6
01. Pather Panchali | Song of the Little Road (1955) (#1)

★★★★¼ | 8.8
02. Seemabaddha | Company Limited (1971) (#7)

★★★★ | 8.4
03. Aparajito | The Unvanquished (1956) (#10)
04. Ashani Sanket | Distant Thunder (1973( (#14)
05. Teen Kanya | Two Daughters (1964) (#17)
06. Apur Sansar | The World of Apu (1959) (#19)

★★★¾ | 8.0
07. Nayak | The Hero (1966) (#20)
08. Aranyer Din Ratri | Days and Nights in the Forest (1969) (#31)
09. Charulata | The Lonely Wife (1964) (#36)

★★★½ | 7.6
10. Mahanagar | The Big City (1963) (#43)
11. Devi | The Goddess (1960) (#47)
12. Abhijaan | The Expedition (1962) (#57)
13. Pratidwandi | The Adversary (1970) (#62)

★★★¼ | 7.2
14. Mahapurush | The Saint (1964)
15. Kanchenjungha (1962)
16. Agantuk | The Stranger (1991)
17. Kapurush | The Coward (1965)

★★★ | 6.8
18. Ghare-baire | The Home and the World (1983)
19. Ganashatru | An Enemy of the People (1989)
20. Jalsaghar | The Music Room (1958)
21. Sadgati | Deliverance (1981)

★★¾ | 6.4
22. Joi Baba Felunath | The Elephant God (1978)

★★¼ | 5.5
23. Shatranj ke Khilari | The Chess Players (1977)

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There is still a lot from Ray that I want to see, so I appreciate the ratings here as a partial guide (YUME taste seems closest to mine, here)

For me, based on what i have seen, he falls just below my short list of favorite filmmakers:

8.5' - 9
Aranyer Din Ratri | Days and Nights in the Forest (1969)
Pather Panchali | Song of the Little Road
Apur Sansar | The World of Apu

8
Aparajito | The Unvanquished
Ashani Sanket | Distant Thunder

7.5 - 8
Charulata / The Lonely Wife
Teen Kanya | Two Daughters
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I saw 9 or 10 of these at a retrospective in the 1990s and they were my introduction to Indian cinema, period. Only saw a couple more over the years but the memory of the ones I'd seen, especially the Apu Trilogy and Charulata, remained fairly strong. Last year I started to go through Ray chronologically, a process still continuing, and I've been very pleased that every film I'd seen maintained it's value (or improved) and that most of the others I've seen have been very worthwhile. I certainly am no expert on Indian cinema but while I've really loved what I've seen from Ghatak, Kaul, Aparna Sen, Dutt and a few others I've little doubt that for my tastes Ray will continue to rank supreme.

For once these rankings are pretty accurate, with the exceptions of 15, 16 and 20 which haven't been seen in 20+ years. They'll get re-watches before long I hope, along with my catching up to the other later films that I've never seen.

* cinema + seen twice

TOP TIER
1. Charulata (all-time top 100) *+
2. Pather Panchali *+
3. Apu Sansar *+
4. Aparajito *+
5. Jalsaghar *+

MERELY EXCELLENT
6. Devi *+
7. Aranyer Din Ratri
8. Mahanagar *+
9. Kapurush
10. Seemabaddha

VERY GOOD
11. Teen Kanya*+
12. Pratidwandi
13. Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne
14. Kanchenjungha
15. Shatranj Ke Khilari
16. Jana Aranya*
17. Rabindranath Tagore
18. Two (short)

PRETTY GOOD
19. Nayak
20. Ghare-Baire*
21. Sikkim
22. Abhijaan
23. Mahapurush
24. Parash Pathar

JUST OK
25. Chiriyakhana
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10/10
Pather Panchali (1955)

9/10
Jalsaghar (1958)
Aparajito (1956)
Devi (1960)
Charulata (1964)

8/10
Apur Sansar (1959)
Mahanagar (1963)
Aranyer Din Ratri (1970)
Ghare-Baire (1984)
Ashani Sanket (1973)

7/10
Agantuk (1991)
Ganashatru (1989)
Kapurush (1965)

6/10
Nayak (1966)
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