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What Disturbs You? / Most Disturbing Films of All Time [Talking Images]

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What Disturbs You? / Most Disturbing Films of All Time [Talking Images]

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Post by St. Gloede » July 24th, 2020, 3:14 pm

Hi all,

In this episode Tom (filmbantha), Clem (Clemmetarrey), Adam (blocho) and Sol (sol) explore the idea of "Disturbing Cinema", tries to figure out exactly what disturbing even means, and goes on the personal journey explaining what disturbs them and why, all while listing:

"The Most Disturbing Films They Have Ever Seen"

They will also try to explore whether or not it is simply the material that disturbs them, or the quality of the films themselves.

Join in, tell us:

"What makes a film disturbing?
"What disturbs you personally?
What are the most disturbing films you have ever seen?

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Post by blocho » July 24th, 2020, 4:17 pm

I think that's me on the podcast rather than Teproc, but let me listen to it first. If I sound stupid, I'm happy to give Teproc all the credit. :D

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Post by St. Gloede » July 24th, 2020, 5:14 pm

blocho wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 4:17 pm
I think that's me on the podcast rather than Teproc, but let me listen to it first. If I sound stupid, I'm happy to give Teproc all the credit. :D
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry about that. Teproc did the rough draft edit, so still deserves credit, but in a different way.

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Post by Armoreska » July 25th, 2020, 12:05 am

Earthlings (aka reality), then Salo, Cannibal Holocaust and Pink Flamingos.
Anyway I have a list for that.
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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
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Post by blocho » July 25th, 2020, 2:14 am

Armoreska wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 12:05 am
Earthlings (aka reality), then Salo, Cannibal Holocaust and Pink Flamingos.
Anyway I have a list for that.
I haven't seen any of those. If you look across all of them, is there a common theme that emerges regarding what you find disturbing?

And I'm really curious to hear something similar from others: What movies do you find most disturbing and why?

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Post by mightysparks » July 25th, 2020, 2:40 am

Idk if I've really been 'disturbed' by any film, aside from porn. I've watched a few porn films that have been on lists and there's nothing really more revolting and stomach-churning than that. There are some films I find squirmy (can't deal with needles), and others I find hard to watch because of animal cruelty (Cannibal Holocaust, even though I love it, and all those types of films), but I don't know if I'd call that disturbing. The rape scene in Irreversible is also hard to watch. The shots of the kid in Clownhouse shirtless in the bath are pretty disturbing knowing that the director was abusing him.

Not a film, but when I was young my dad watched one of those terrorist videos where they decapitated a dude and I was in the room and I did not like that, the sounds still kind of haunt me. I'm definitely more 'disturbed' by reality than fiction stuff. Salo bored me, A Serbian Film made me laugh, etc. But I joined the morbid reality Reddit sub a few weeks ago and I actually can't look at more than a few things before being too overwhelmed. One thing I saw recently because of that sub, which is probably the most disturbing thing I've ever witnessed, is Kevin Cosgrove's call from the World Trade Center, that moment where he screams and the phone cuts is fecking bone chilling and makes me burst into tears.
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Post by Armoreska » July 25th, 2020, 6:00 pm

blocho wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 2:14 am
Armoreska wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 12:05 am
Earthlings (aka reality), then Salo, Cannibal Holocaust and Pink Flamingos.
Anyway I have a list for that.
I haven't seen any of those. If you look across all of them, is there a common theme that emerges regarding what you find disturbing?
They all feature humans? :shrug:

I hope those are not spoilers but
In animal cruelty films, humans are being cruel to animals.
In Salo, humans are being perverts, fascist and also cruel to their slaves. Quite a package. I'm sure you've at least heard.
CanHol contains outrageous indigenous violence and live killing of a wild animal (Im sure thats what MAFIAA said when rating it)
Flamingos are just disgusting people being nasty with not much violence.

The most disturbing "standard" horror movies I've ever seen are Martyrs and french "Inside".

Here are some movies I classified as so sad they became disturbing but were not particularly gory or nasty:
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An American Crime
Boksuneun naui geot
Children of Men
Dancer in the Dark
Der siebente Kontinent
Eden Lake
Funny Games
Happiness
Palindromes
Hard Candy
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
House of Sand and Fog
Idi i smotri
Kairo
Medea
Melancholia
Mong ming yuen yeung
The Nightingale
Paha maa
Perfect Sense
Pet Sematary
Polytechnique
Rojo amanecer
Schindler's List
Srpski film (ALSO NASTY THO)
The War Game
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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo

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Post by Onderhond » July 25th, 2020, 6:16 pm

Nice to hear Grotesque was mentioned. It's really high up my list of most disturbing films, because it kinda takes the fun out of horror and leaves you with an almost surgical recount of a complete dismemberment. It's really similar to Flowers of Flesh & Blood (also mentioned in the podcast). It's really interesting to see those films, especially horror fans who suddenly don't like what they see anymore. The middle part of Martyrs pretty much accomplishes that same feeling for me.

Also fun to hear clem mention Pinocchio 964. A personal favorite of mine and indeed not an easy watch. Not sure if I'd call it disturbing as such, but it's definitely an acquired taste.

Oh, and I'm on the team that thinks found footage adds to the realism of horror films. Not so much I'd call them disturbing, but they at least get me on the edge of my seat from time to time.

I'd like to recommend The Tenants Downstairs. A film about a concierge who fucks with his tenants. It's very stylish, but it also get pretty gruesome at times. There's one really fucked up segment though where the guy tries to get a pedophile to give into his urges, which was a big WTF for me. Kang-sheng Lee is in it, for the Tsai fans.

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Post by prodigalgodson » July 25th, 2020, 7:00 pm

The only thing that really comes to mind is the first time I saw Starship Troopers.

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Post by blueboybob » July 25th, 2020, 7:26 pm

As a father, Dear Zachary. Being a true story makes it gut renching and disturbing.

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Post by clemmetarey » July 25th, 2020, 9:30 pm

Onderhond wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 6:16 pm
Nice to hear Grotesque was mentioned. It's really high up my list of most disturbing films, because it kinda takes the fun out of horror and leaves you with an almost surgical recount of a complete dismemberment. It's really similar to Flowers of Flesh & Blood (also mentioned in the podcast). It's really interesting to see those films, especially horror fans who suddenly don't like what they see anymore. The middle part of Martyrs pretty much accomplishes that same feeling for me.

Also fun to hear clem mention Pinocchio 964. A personal favorite of mine and indeed not an easy watch. Not sure if I'd call it disturbing as such, but it's definitely an acquired taste.

Oh, and I'm on the team that thinks found footage adds to the realism of horror films. Not so much I'd call them disturbing, but they at least get me on the edge of my seat from time to time.

I'd like to recommend The Tenants Downstairs. A film about a concierge who fucks with his tenants. It's very stylish, but it also get pretty gruesome at times. There's one really fucked up segment though where the guy tries to get a pedophile to give into his urges, which was a big WTF for me. Kang-sheng Lee is in it, for the Tsai fans.
Yes I had a feeling you would appreciate to hear some talk about underseen Japanese films :P I see you also wrote a review of Rubber's Lover, a film I liked a bit less, but still a recommendation for those who like Tetsuo.

I haven't heard of The Tenants Downstairs, I have added it to my watchlist.

Also I would like to thank those who take the time to listen to the podcast and leave comments afterwards. It is truly appreciated and helps us improve :cheers:

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Post by Onderhond » July 25th, 2020, 9:36 pm

Dunno if Grotesque is underseen, it's on the ICM Worst list I think.
As for The Tenants Downstairs, it's pretty stylish, but also quite revolting and harsh, which is not something most critics are into. It's a pretty divisive film, not sure why it hasn't found its audience yet but it's bound to happen sometime :)

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Post by Armoreska » July 26th, 2020, 8:19 pm

Apparently my top 5 is very standard as the random top 10 disturbing movies on youtube basically matches me but in another order.
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Post by beavis » July 26th, 2020, 9:36 pm

challenging watches:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/the ... +dead+man/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/eol ... n+geotdul/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/sweet+movie/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/gogal/ (although it has a fantastic mood to it...)

I had some nauseous reactions to
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/hard+candy/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/nar ... hiko-1983/
that thing with the teeth on the edge of the well also makes me not want to see American History X

sometimes grimy moods and moral ambiguity can feel a bit disturbing, but I like to be "disturbed" in that way mostly.... Salo for instance i find very philosophical (rare in cinema!) and thought provoking (although the first time I saw it, I was too young, looking for something extreme and ending up just very, very, repulsed). bodily things and socially transgressive behavior has a more immediate repulsive effect for me. Stupidity and political agendas can be disturbing too I guess, I have never wanted to see something like Jud Süß, not even out of historical curiosity and don't like to see Riefenstahl on best off lists...

so all these things are personal, but just listing some extreme splatter movies here seems silly in a way ;)
unless they are Hermann Nitsch performances put to film ;)

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Post by Armoreska » July 29th, 2020, 10:40 am

What was the French Canadian film mentioned at 29:50?
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Post by Teproc » July 29th, 2020, 10:59 am

Léolo, at least that's what I hear, but I haven't seen it.

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Post by sol » July 29th, 2020, 11:07 am

Teproc wrote:
July 29th, 2020, 10:59 am
Léolo, at least that's what I hear, but I haven't seen it.
Yes, that's correct. Probably don't watch the film if you're a cat lover...
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Post by sol » July 29th, 2020, 2:20 pm

More on the cat scene in Léolo:

https://cinemacats.com/lolo-1992/

WARNING: Not for the faint of heart (the blog post contains images of the cat in terror)
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