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Post by beavis » February 21st, 2020, 12:02 pm

Welcome to the planning stage of the 4th ICM Film Festival!


We want to continue this tradition of highlighting recent films that went under the radar. And because there wasn't a large protest, I will be taking over the guidance of the process from outdoorcats this year :) After a few succesful changes made last year, I don't think we need to change much in the process. But there will be some minor tweaks that, as always, will be open to debate and suggestions. Also I will try to be a bit more clear about the timeline and what is expected from programmers (and jurors in the later stages), if possible.

We need you to help discover the movies we think everybody should hear about. There are a lot of experts on this forum, and together I think we can again come up with a solid selection. We all have our personal interests and strengths. Last edition we could have used more input on our Latin America, genre and LGBT selections, so especially if you are watching a bit in those areas, come join the team!

Typically the ICM Film Festival will
-be held at the end of the year (november - december)
-have a total of up to 50 movies that should be available for viewing online, on streaming or on physical media for as much people as possible
-be open for casual viewing enjoyment by all, but also have jurors that will give out prices and watch the entire main slate + at least one other section
-consist of a main slate and the following sections: animation, arthouse, Asia+Africa, documentary, "just before dawn" (genre), Europe, English-language independent, Latin America and LGBT

What do programmers have to do?
- select the best films you saw from the period 2017 - 2020, with 10,000 votes or less on Imdb, that you think should be available for home-viewing (at the time of the festival)
- then make a post in this thread saying you want to be a programmer and list a maximum of 30 of those titles (no minimum really... but more than just a couple of course)
- add a description of one or two sentences to each title and list the sections where you think they would be a good fit (try to catch as many sections as you can with your selections)
- then from March untill August we have a 6 month period to watch movies!

Last year it was asked to watch at least 3 recommendations from each of the other programmers. I thought if we'd get more programmers this ask might become a bit much (as it already was for some). So I propose that this time a programmer watches a required minimum of 6 films (one a month on average) from the entire body of proposed titles, and maybe a few more specific titles for sections that need more input towards the end (I will ask for that if and when the time comes). Besides that, you will also be on the lookout for new titles that cross your path (no programmer needs to visit other festivals to actually scout, but I'll do that anyway :)) that you can propose and discuss as suggestions in this thread.

- rate every movie you've seen on the following scale: 3 (strongly recommend), 2 (recommend), 1 (maybe...) and 0 (do not reccomend)

We have been using a spreadsheet for this rating for the last two seasons and most programmers felt it made the process more insightful. It also took away some of the discussions in this thread and maybe that is a reason Perception de Ambiguity lost some interest in being a programmer (?). Or maybe it was the fact that there is a 0 rating (we already stopped using a negative rating to disapprove of a recommendation). If it could persuade him to join the team again, I am very open to discuss not using the 0 rating anymore, but I think the spreadsheat is the best way to keep an overview of our progress, so I would very much like to keep that. Hopefully Fergenaprido can again set it up for us!

What is the rest of the timeline?
- so from now/March until the end of August we watch and talk movies here, keeping score in the spreadsheat
- then we'll take a closer look at where we stand and take the month of September to complete a final list of candidates that should cover all sections
- at the end of September I'll open a jury invitation thread and hand them the list we have created here
- they will have the month of October to sign up and together pick their main slate selections
- at the beginning of November the programmers than will make the rest of the programme final, so I can make the announcement threads for each section of the festival
- I will post those ASAP and at least a week before the start of the festival, trying to promote it on the forum as much as possible
- I propose the festival to be held this year in the four weeks from monday 16 November untill monday 14 December

This to have it cross over two months as requested, and to avoid a clash with the current ICM World Cup as much as possible. The last halve final of the cup ends at 15 November and the final runs (as it stands now) from 26 November until 10 December. So mark your calenders! unless a better suggestion comes along of course.

I think that's it for now. I hope to have tackled most questions that there could have been. We can have a discussion about the rating-system as I've said before. Now would also be the time to discuss if we want to mix up the sections this year. Last year it was proposed to have a section dedicated to female directors. We can also leave out a section (for a year only, or permanent). Those kind of things. I am very much open to change on that front, but if we don't have anything concrete by April, then I won't change the format as it now stands. Other suggestions and remarks are of course also very welcome. And I hope the few tweaks I have suggested lower the treshhold enough, that anyone with even the slightest interest in trying their hand at promoting favorite movies for the rest of the forum, will sign up as programmer!
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Post by beavis » February 21st, 2020, 12:49 pm

Xianjiro made an insightful overview of the number of views of last years edition. He and I watched the major part of the entire slate, but we were clearly outliers. The average number of films rated by all other viewers who rated movies during the festival was 12. This is not bad, considering all the other games and challenges running on the forum and the busy time in general at the end of the year. It is however a strong argument to reduce the size of the Main Slate somewhat this year. This has also been mentioned in the festival feedback (Maxwelldeluxe, Xianjiro). I wanted to discuss this later, along with the process for the Jury and such, but thought it maybe wise to already mention it here and now. (A maximum of 8 titles for the Main Slate would be my suggestion btw)

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Post by beavis » February 21st, 2020, 12:57 pm

I am not a fan of the much hyped (by those who've seen it) "La Flor" myself, so I won't make a suggestion for it. But if anyone want to do that and it makes the final cut, I propose we'd give that monster marathon of a movie a special section of its own :)
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Post by beavis » February 21st, 2020, 1:29 pm

One other thing: shorts
Again something that is not really my thing, so excuse me for not mentioning this before. There was a special section for this at the ICM-FF, but if I'm not mistaken last year it did not actually got made in the end. All the information above is in regards to feature length films. If one or more people want to take on the task of curating a side-programme of shorts they are very welcome to do so!! I'd say the criteria of 2017 - 2020 and equal or less than 10,000 Imdb votes should still apply, but the selection will not be done with the rating system and such.

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Post by maxwelldeux » February 22nd, 2020, 1:14 am

Well, after being critical of the programming last year (mainly for the LGBT section), I figure I should put up or shut up. I'm choosing the former.

I'll start working on a list.

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Post by mightysparks » February 22nd, 2020, 6:32 am

I am tentatively interested in being a programmer this year, but I'll see how I go.. I want to do it every year and then talk myself out of it because I don't really come across new films that aren't too mainstream and figure I'm too fussy to come up with a meaningful selection (and most of the eligible films I've seen currently are films I watched for other iCMFF's lol). But I'd like to help contribute to the Just Before Dawn category, and I'm also interested in watching other people's selections (though they might not want me to :P ). Otherwise I'll definitely be a juror because I love this event.
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Post by maxwelldeux » February 22nd, 2020, 8:28 am

mightysparks wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 6:32 am
I am tentatively interested in being a programmer this year, but I'll see how I go.. I want to do it every year and then talk myself out of it because I don't really come across new films that aren't too mainstream and figure I'm too fussy to come up with a meaningful selection (and most of the eligible films I've seen currently are films I watched for other iCMFF's lol). But I'd like to help contribute to the Just Before Dawn category, and I'm also interested in watching other people's selections (though they might not want me to :P ). Otherwise I'll definitely be a juror because I love this event.
You're actually very similar to my frame of mind right now - I tend to lag several years behind on films, so I'm not super-well-versed in the new stuff. I think I can contribute substantively to the Documentary section (my biggest exception to that trend), and am keenly interested in watching/commenting/digging into other sections (e.g., LGBT; and like you, REALLY interested in watching other folks' films). It's a lower bar for "Programmer" entry this year, so I'd encourage you to give it a shot.

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Post by beavis » February 22nd, 2020, 11:26 am

I think everybody can bring something interesting to this, Especially because you guys want to focus on a specific section. Maybe you feel you haven't seen enough recent interesting titles at the moment to dive in straight away. It is ok to do a bit of looking around first before joining up! The only downside of that would be that you have less time to watch the six other movies from our selections that you haven't seen yet, and we really need that to get a roster of enough titles with strong support. Don't worry about taste's clashing either, it would be boring if they didn't!

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Post by Fergenaprido » February 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm

I'm in again as a programmer. I'll update the spreadsheet and post my own list of recommendations in early March. I've got a lot on my plate workwise for the rest of February.

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Post by beavis » February 22nd, 2020, 9:19 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm
I'm in again as a programmer. I'll update the spreadsheet and post my own list of recommendations in early March. I've got a lot on my plate workwise for the rest of February.
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Post by Fergenaprido » February 23rd, 2020, 6:55 am

beavis wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 9:19 pm
Fergenaprido wrote:
February 22nd, 2020, 6:42 pm
I'm in again as a programmer. I'll update the spreadsheet and post my own list of recommendations in early March. I've got a lot on my plate workwise for the rest of February.
very cool!!
Thanks for taking the reins beavis.

So as to not slow down those who are ready to go, I've quickly created the tab for 2020 in the spreadsheet and copied over all of the still eligible films from last year (i.e. removed films from last year's slate, those from 2016, and those with over 10,000 votes). I didn't remove anything with low votes from last year's programmers because this year's batch could have different opinions, so there are 75 films left over that are available. I also moved last year's programmers who haven't yet said they're coming back to the end of the sheet, so we can move their votes back in if they rejoin.

Lastly, I've made one major change to help try and identify categories this year: I've created a separate column for each Slate, so when you are adding films, please mark a "y" in the corresponding column(s) for each slate that fits that film. I'm hoping this will make it easier for us to keep track of potential each slate and which ones need more eligible films/views (main and short slates excluded since those are decided separately).

People can go ahead and add their own nominations, or renominate films from last year by copying/moving them up. I'll fix the coding and update the links and imdb votes some time in March.

Oh, and to kick things off, I'm renominating Back to Burgundy, because apparently it's the epitome of the worst of modern French cinema (aka conceptually bankrupt dramas selling Frenchness to wine mums, but I rather enjoyed it and it's in its last year of eligibility. tehe

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Post by beavis » February 23rd, 2020, 2:53 pm

I've been looking at my candidates and I think I have a nice list of 30 titles now that I can find online, some already on the spreadsheat last year and some new ones. But first some runners up that are not available yet, but might be interesting ideas for other programmers to run with:

A Vida Invisível de Eurídice Gusmão 2019
Hvítur, hvítur dagur 2019
Vitalina Varela 2019

three major releases that are doing festival and cinema rounds at the moment, they could be available on time for the festival but aren't yet as far as I know

Öndög 2019
Colectiv 2019
Tlamess 2019
Fanny Lye Deliver'd 2019

Four very strong movies that I only saw recently at festivals or special screenings, no major names I think, but they still might be available at the time of the festival. Colectiv is one of the strongest documentary's I've seen in recent history, I think it would have quite some support here.

Con el viento 2018
Ikiterudakede ai 2018
Mabata Bata 2018

These three are slightly older already and not yet available, so I fear they won't ever be. Con el Viento was my second favorite movie of last year. Such strong expressionism in the images! Mabata Bata (and Tlamess) would be a strong entry for African cinema.

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Post by beavis » February 23rd, 2020, 3:41 pm

These are my 30 nominations (will update the spreadsheet, and come back with a bit more info on them soon) there are already grouped somewhat around specific sections

In Fabric - 2018 -
Pieles - 2017 - Skins
Luz - 2018 -
Di Renjie zhi Sidatianwang - 2018 - Detective Dee: The Four Heavenly Kings
Jallikattu - 2019 -
Charlie en Hannah gaan uit - 2017 - Charlie and Hannah's Grand Night Out
Ruben Brandt, Collector - 2018 -
Hao ji le - 2017 - Have a Nice Day
Matangi/Maya/M.I.A. - 2018 -
No Intenso Agora - 2017 -
The Eternals - 2017 -
Café com Canela - 2017 -
Arábia - 2017 - Araby
Chuva E Cantoria Na Aldeia Dos Mortos - 2018 - The Dead and the Others
Vazante - 2017 -
Adiós entusiasmo - 2017 - So Long Enthusiasm
Hikari - 2017 - Radiance
Karera ga honki de amu toki wa, - 2017 - Close-Knit
Zhuang si le yi zhi yang - 2018 - Jinpa
Sekala Niskala - 2017 - The Seen and Unseen
Jonaki - 2018 -
Synonymes - 2019 - Synonyms
Alice T. - 2018 -
Amanda - 2018 -
Classical Period - 2018 -
Donbass - 2018 -
Martin Eden - 2019 -
Napszállta - 2018 - Sunset
Oiktos - 2018 - Pity
Sarah joue un loup garou - 2017 - Sarah Plays a Werewolf
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http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/in+fabric/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/pieles/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/luz-2018/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/di+r ... atianwang/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/jallikattu/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/char ... +gaan+uit/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/rube ... collector/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/hao+ji+le/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/mata ... slashm.i.a./
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/no+intenso+agora/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/the+eternals/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/cafe+com+canela/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/arabia-2017/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/chuv ... os+mortos/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/vazante/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/adios+entusiasmo/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/hikari/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/kare ... u+toki+wa/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/zhua ... +zhi+yang/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/sekala+niskala/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/jonaki/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/synonymes/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/alice+t./
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/amanda-2018/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/classical+period/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/donbass/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/martin+eden-2019/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/napszallta/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/oiktos/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/sara ... oup+garou/
Nominations for Doubling are only just underway, but Ruben Brandt and Napszállta are already mentioned, so that is a nice confidence booster. Drift is also mentioned there, but I left it off my choices this time, because next to my vote it only got a 0-rating last year (still one of my very favorite cinema experiences from two years ago though!!).

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Post by Fergenaprido » February 23rd, 2020, 4:22 pm

beavis wrote:
February 23rd, 2020, 3:41 pm
These are my 30 nominations (will update the spreadsheet, and come back with a bit more info on them soon) there are already grouped somewhat around specific sections

In Fabric - 2018 -
Pieles - 2017 - Skins
Luz - 2018 -
Di Renjie zhi Sidatianwang - 2018 - Detective Dee: The Four Heavenly Kings
Jallikattu - 2019 -
Charlie en Hannah gaan uit - 2017 - Charlie and Hannah's Grand Night Out
Ruben Brandt, Collector - 2018 -
Hao ji le - 2017 - Have a Nice Day
Matangi/Maya/M.I.A. - 2018 -
No Intenso Agora - 2017 -
The Eternals - 2017 -
Café com Canela - 2017 -
Arábia - 2017 - Araby
Chuva E Cantoria Na Aldeia Dos Mortos - 2018 - The Dead and the Others
Vazante - 2017 -
Adiós entusiasmo - 2017 - So Long Enthusiasm
Hikari - 2017 - Radiance
Karera ga honki de amu toki wa, - 2017 - Close-Knit
Zhuang si le yi zhi yang - 2018 - Jinpa
Sekala Niskala - 2017 - The Seen and Unseen
Jonaki - 2018 -
Synonymes - 2019 - Synonyms
Alice T. - 2018 -
Amanda - 2018 -
Classical Period - 2018 -
Donbass - 2018 -
Martin Eden - 2019 -
Napszállta - 2018 - Sunset
Oiktos - 2018 - Pity
Sarah joue un loup garou - 2017 - Sarah Plays a Werewolf

Nominations for Doubling are only just underway, but Ruben Brandt and Napszállta are already mentioned, so that is a nice confidence booster. Drift is also mentioned there, but I left it off my choices this time, because next to my vote it only got a 0-rating last year (still one of my very favorite cinema experiences from two years ago though!!).
That 0 was from me, sorry. I don't normally seek out the arthouse films, but it was playing on Mubi so I gave it a shot. Feel free to recommend films for me to NOT see so that I don't bring down their rating :p

Of your list above, I've seen Araby and Alice T. (and both get at least a weak endorsement from me), and I am interested in seeking out Jonaki, Synonyms, Donbass, Pity, and maybe Sunset and Sarah Plays a Werewolf. Not familiar with most of the rest.

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Post by beavis » February 23rd, 2020, 4:39 pm

:) I think Jonaki might be very much too heavy arthousy for your taste, its a dark and hermetic movie that is very different to the more universal appeal that the director's debut feature had

EDIT, on another note:
I tried moving my titles that were already in the spreadsheet up to the top, but, like last year, I had a lot of trouble with these simple edits. formats were screwed up and ratings seem to go missing... I think I reverted everything back now, but I won't try that again, will just add all my titles by hand... but I don't think I have any more time to do that today...

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Post by Fergenaprido » February 23rd, 2020, 6:44 pm

beavis wrote:
February 23rd, 2020, 4:39 pm
:) I think Jonaki might be very much too heavy arthousy for your taste, its a dark and hermetic movie that is very different to the more universal appeal that the director's debut feature had

EDIT, on another note:
I tried moving my titles that were already in the spreadsheet up to the top, but, like last year, I had a lot of trouble with these simple edits. formats were screwed up and ratings seem to go missing... I think I reverted everything back now, but I won't try that again, will just add all my titles by hand... but I don't think I have any more time to do that today...
Noted. Maybe I'll skip Jonaki then. But if you really like Drift, still nominate it... maybe others will appreciate it more than me, and I'm hardly a connoisseur of arthouse films.

Moved a bunch of your nominations up. It only messed the formula up a little, so it was a quick fix. Feel free to move more or add them manually and I can clean them up when I get a chance... it's not too troublesome for me to do it (and I love fixing stuff like this instead of doing my actual work... or sleeping for that matter... I should go now if I'm going to be productive at work at all tomorrow).

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Post by maxwelldeux » February 23rd, 2020, 8:31 pm

Maybe a silly question...
- rate every movie you've seen on the following scale: 3 (strongly recommend), 2 (recommend), 1 (maybe...) and 0 (do not reccomend)
Does that mean we should rate on how much we like the film, how well we think the film would do in the ICMFF, how "good" the film is objectively, or something else?

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Post by beavis » February 23rd, 2020, 9:03 pm

I say only support a film when you think it's good, maybe give strong support only if you really like it... with the suggestions made by others i have given support sometimes even if i personally am not wild about it but when i thought it would do well in the festival, but i don't do that if i really dont like the movie, so... all of these factors come into play :)

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Post by beavis » February 24th, 2020, 11:28 am

not a very nice formatting to this post, sorry about that, but there is a lot of information :) I even added if the director is a man or a woman, for if we decide to do something with that.

1 - In Fabric - 2018 - man - dawn - stylish, surreal horror but with a wicked British sense of humor
2 - Pieles - 2017 - man - dawn - weird surreal horror comedy with a strong transgressive edge
3 - Luz - 2018 - man - dawn - arty surreal horror from a young new German filmmaker
4 - Detective Dee: The Four Heavenly Kings - 2018 - man - dawn asia - big fantasy, adventure, comedy in the best HK tradition, cg monsters, but very nicely done
5 - Jallikattu - 2019 - man - dawn asia - loud and busy Indian movie that goes completely bonkers at the end, much fun
6 - Charlie and Hannah's Grand Night Out - 2017 - man - dawn europe - surreal and quirky "night on the town" experience
7 - Ruben Brandt, Collector - 2018 - man - dawn anim - cool animation with a simple story structure, but the strength lies in the many references to art history (painting)
8 - Have a Nice Day - 2017 - man - dawn anim - simple but effective animation style, sets a nice darkly mood
9 - Matangi/Maya/M.I.A. - 2018 - man - doc - cool doc about the singer
10 - No Intenso Agora - 2017 - man - doc latin - very well made doc about the politics of 1968
11 - The Eternals - 2017 - man - doc art - the latest from an arty documentary filmmaker that often reminds me of east european filmmakers like tarr and sokurov
12 - Café com Canela - 2017 - woman - latin - brazil, low key drama, very nice photography, very nice people
13 - Araby - 2017 - man - latin - brazil, this ended up very high in the latest cinema tropical poll and I can see the universal appeal of this story
14 - The Dead and the Others - 2018 - man - latin art - brazil, semi-documentary look on an indigenous community, very strong visual mood
15 - Vazante - 2017 - woman - latin - brazil, historical drama, very nice black and white photography
16 - So Long Enthusiasm - 2017 - man - latin - low key and a bit quirky, a bit arty, hard to describe properly but I liked it
17 - Radiance - 2017 - woman - asia - a film about translation of the experience of watching a movie, in the premise for a blind audience, but I also strongly related to it
18 - Close-Knit - 2017 - woman - asia lgbt - very sweet and low key comedy-drama about a child coming to live with her uncle and his (trans) girlfriend
19 - Jinpa - 2018 - man - asia - very cool movie from tibet, makes use of some noir stylings in the story, but the characters are actually the opposite of dark
20 - The Seen and Unseen - 2017 - woman - asia - stylish and with a few quirky touches, makes this special
21 - Jonaki - 2018 - man - asia art - beautiful, if a bit dark and hermetic, the director uses images from his youth and his dreams to bring an ode to his grandmother Jonaki
22 - Synonymes - 2019 - man - asia art - quirky but cool, once you stick with it in the beginning it starts to build its own world and momentum
23 - Alice T. - 2018 - man - europe - very true and sensitive portrayal of a difficult teenager, lot's of nuance in the writing and fearlessness in the acting
24 - Amanda - 2018 - man - europe - mikhael hers is doing his thing again, this time with a bit more story and scope to it maybe, but strong as always
25 - Classical Period - 2018 - man - indie art - this is bare bones quirky us-indie like i had never seen it before, the director is a fan of straub-huillet and it shows, although hal hartley is also there in equal parts
26 - Donbass - 2018 - man - europe art - Loznitsa is no stranger to this festival, because what he is doing fits in so perfectly with our mission, when does the general public start finding out how special his work is?
27 - Martin Eden - 2019 - man - europe art - not set in a specific time or place, this movie managed to confuse me while watching it, only for me to love it even more while thinking back on it
28 - Sunset - 2018 - man - europe art - so stylish! A cool period piece, with the same pov camerawork as seen in his earlier holocaust movie Son of Saul
29 - Pity - 2018 - man - europe art - super quirky and weird, I love the dark humor of this director and this is clearly his best work yet!
30 - Sarah Plays a Werewolf - 2017 - woman - europe - very low key minimal drama, but that only makes the drama more devestating and relatable for me…

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Post by maxwelldeux » February 25th, 2020, 5:40 am

Not to be whiny, but could we get those added to the spreadsheet, beavis (or someone)? It's really helpful for me to a) see how they get added, esp. for when I get around to adding my own, and b) keep organized in my watching/rating.

Moving on to my first watch for this...

Did You Wonder Who Fired the Gun? 3/3

Loved this - it was low-budget for sure, but the flip-side of a talking heads doc. Yeah, there was tons of first-person narration and several interviews/letter readings, but the images on screen were focused on setting the mood, not the focused on the person talking. I thought it was appropriately stylistic, made some very cool shot construction choices, and maintained the integrity of the story while setting the visuals to complement the story/words. A strong 8/10 for me, going on my favorites lists, and strongly recommended for the ICMFF.

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Post by beavis » February 25th, 2020, 8:29 am

I was kinda busy, and needed acces to a pc instead of a tablet to be able to do the editing easily, but everything is in there now!

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Post by maxwelldeux » February 26th, 2020, 1:22 am

Are we doing Shorts this year? I'm finalizing my list of what I want to nominate this early and want to know if I should include them.

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Post by beavis » February 26th, 2020, 6:06 am

You can create a shorts programme if you want, but i feel they don't need to be rated in the sheet. One or two ended up there in the past, only to be mostly overlooked. If other programmers want them in there however, it would by strange for me to oppose it, but the way it was handeled in the past did little besides cause a bit of clutter...

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Post by maxwelldeux » February 28th, 2020, 2:10 am

OK. I've added 12 films - 10 docs, 2 Euro (one of the docs also qualifies for LGBT). I have others I'm considering, but these are my higher priority ones.

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Post by beavis » February 28th, 2020, 8:49 am

Holiday was already in the list, the entry below can be moved upwards
don't forget a short discription of your choices in this thread

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Post by maxwelldeux » February 28th, 2020, 7:40 pm

beavis wrote:
February 28th, 2020, 8:49 am
Holiday was already in the list, the entry below can be moved upwards
don't forget a short discription of your choices in this thread
I didn't realize there were entries down below, so your first sentence didn't make a ton of sense. Now it does. :thumbsup:

And thanks for the reminder - I'll get a short note about each posted tonight.

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Post by maxwelldeux » February 29th, 2020, 12:04 am

I am Jane Doe - This is about three young women who were trafficked into sex work via Backpage, and sued the company. I know some folks interviewed in the doc and a lot about the topic, so this is personal for me.
Mommy Dead and Dearest - A doc about one of the most serious cases of Munchhausen by proxy you'll see. An absurd story.
In Syria (Insyriated) - A film about a family trying to survive in Syria during the war. Horrifying realities for normal people.
Nobody Speak: Trials of the Free Press - A doc about the lawsuit filed by Hulk Hogan against Gawker... and all the twists and turns therein.
78/52: Hitchcock's Shower Scene - Exactly what it sounds like - a fascinating look at one of the more iconic scenes in film.
I Am Another You - This has been floating around the forum for a bit, but still underseen. A doc by Nanfu Wang (dir) who meets a homeless young man and strikes up a friendship, but things take an odd turn.
Half the Picture - A doc about women in film, and the lack thereof.
Holiday - An interesting stylistic film about a young woman accompanying her shady boyfriend on a trip on a yacht.
Mercury 13 - A doc about the Mercury 13, the 13 women who went through training for space flight, contemporary with the Apollo program.
The Death and Life of Marsha P. Johnson - A doc that investigates the mysterious death of a gay rights activist.
Birth of a Movement - A doc about an editor of a Black newspaper who tried to get the film "Birth of a Nation (1915)" banned.
Atomic Homefront - A doc about the storage of nuclear waste and the havoc it can wreak.

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Post by beavis » March 8th, 2020, 7:20 am

Ok, March is well underway now. Only one of the previous managers signed up and two new ones of which one isnt ready to nominate films yet and the other is focussing on one section.... i'm starting to get a bit worried here... what am i doing wrong?? Or should i read into this that the forum has no interest in this project anymore?

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Post by maxwelldeux » March 8th, 2020, 7:46 am

beavis wrote:
March 8th, 2020, 7:20 am
Ok, March is well underway now. Only one of the previous managers signed up and two new ones of which one isnt ready to nominate films yet and the other is focussing on one section.... i'm starting to get a bit worried here... what am i doing wrong?? Or should i read into this that the forum has no interest in this project anymore?
Have you PM'ed all the regular programmers? That'd be where I start.

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Post by mightysparks » March 8th, 2020, 8:13 am

The first few weeks of uni has left me exhausted but I've been trying to catch up now.. I've been listening to podcasts and reading about films and film festivals trying to find interesting releases from the last few years that aren't super popular to put together a watchlist, and I'm trying to get through the films that have been nominated. I've watched a few this weekend, just haven't had time to put together thoughts yet. Slow going, but I'm trying lol. I have a 2 month break between semesters in June/July which I'm guessing will be the bulk of my viewings.
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Post by mightysparks » March 8th, 2020, 8:28 am

Here's some nominees from me for now too, I'll do some write-ups and stuff in a couple of days:

Vivarium (2019) / Dawn
Little Joe (2019) / Dawn
Bliss (2019) / Dawn
Le daim (2019) / Dawn
Fast Color (2018) / Dawn, Indie?
As Boas Maneiras (2017) / Dawn
Braid (2018) / Dawn, Indie?
Bacurau (2019) / Dawn, Latin America
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Post by beavis » March 8th, 2020, 10:29 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
March 8th, 2020, 7:46 am
Have you PM'ed all the regular programmers? That'd be where I start.
I've seen most of them reading this topic...

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Post by beavis » March 8th, 2020, 10:32 am

mightysparks wrote:
March 8th, 2020, 8:28 am
Here's some nominees from me for now too, I'll do some write-ups and stuff in a couple of days:
Seen three of those, have one of them to see on bluray in my collection and one other is coming to cinema's here soon. Nice👍

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Post by Fergenaprido » March 8th, 2020, 11:08 am

beavis wrote:
March 8th, 2020, 7:20 am
Ok, March is well underway now. Only one of the previous managers signed up and two new ones of which one isnt ready to nominate films yet and the other is focussing on one section.... i'm starting to get a bit worried here... what am i doing wrong?? Or should i read into this that the forum has no interest in this project anymore?
I don't think you're doing anything wrong. But yeah, maybe a PM to the other programmers might be warranted. Or even to those who you think would be programmers. Sometimes a special invitation is enough to convince people that they're opinion is valued. :)

I don't know if this is possible for non-official lists, but if you can see a list of users who checked the most films from last year's slate, that might give you an idea of some people who could be programmers this year.

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Post by sacmersault » March 17th, 2020, 8:50 am

I usually try to be a programmer. I don't know if I want to participate this year (too many reasons). I can recommend movies though and I would like to add my support for:
Ruben Brandt, Collector & The Death and Life of Marsha P. Johnson. Both very good

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Post by Fergenaprido » March 17th, 2020, 10:39 am

sacmersault wrote:
March 17th, 2020, 8:50 am
I usually try to be a programmer. I don't know if I want to participate this year (too many reasons). I can recommend movies though and I would like to add my support for:
Ruben Brandt, Collector & The Death and Life of Marsha P. Johnson. Both very good
This was on my radar last year, and now after max nominated it earlier and you're seconding it, make me want to prioritize it even more. I also just broke down and bought a Netflix subscription, so I've already watchlisted it there so that I can remind myself to check it out.

Sorry to hear that you're not feeling like joining this year, but it's understandable :) You're always welcome if you change your mind (and your previous ratings are still in the spreadsheet off to the side).

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Post by Fergenaprido » March 30th, 2020, 1:05 pm

Okay, later than I wanted to post this, but March has been crazy.

I'm renominating these films from last year:
3 - Back to Burgundy [Ce qui nous lie] (2017)
3 - Mario (2018)
2 - Bloody Milk [Petit paysan] (2017)
2 - Shuttle Life [Fen bei ren sheng] (2017)
2 - Summer Children [Sumarbörn] (2017)

Of the ones others have nominated, I've already seen some:
3 - Did You Wonder Who Fired the Gun? (2017)
3 - Alice T. (2018)
2 - Araby [Arábia] (2017)
1 - Holiday (2018)

And here are my nominations. Most new films I see either through Mubi, in theatres, or on planes, so I don't know if all of them will be available to view easily or not.
3 - What a Country! [Koja je ovo drzava!] (2018) - Hilarious black comedy from Croatia I saw at the Pula Film Festival last summer.
3 - A Colony [Une colonie] (2018) - French Canadian coming of age drama.
3 - A Man of Integrity [Lerd] (2017) - Iranian lone-man-against-the-corrupt-system drama.
3 - M (2018) - French documentary dealing with sexual abuse in Orthodox communities in Israel. Won Best Doc at the Césars.
3 - Giant Little Ones (2018) - English Canadian coming of age/dealing with sexuality drama.
3 - The Shiny Shrimps [Les crevettes pailletées] (2019) - Very gay French film about a [not-so-good] water polo team hoping to compete in the Gay Games.
3 - Faces Places [Visages villages] (2017) - French doc by Varda. It's just under the 10,000 vote threshold, though, so maybe it's too mainstream for this festival now.
3 - Young Juliette [Jeune Juliette] (2019) - French Canadian coming of age drama.
3 - School's Out [L'heure de la sortie] (2018) - French film that doesn't really fit any genre to me, except maybe suspense? Also qualifies for LGBT.
3 - 37 Seconds [37 sekanzu] (2019) - Japanese drama about a woman with cerebral palsy fighting for her independence, played by an actress who actually has that condition. Excellent, and should be available on Netflix.
3 - I Think We're Alone Now (2018) - American post-apocalypse indie. Surprised it's still so underseen considering it stars Dinklage and Fanning (Elle).
3 - Suleiman Mountain [Sulayman too] (2017) - Kyrgyz drama about a woman trying to get her husband back from his second wife by searching for their long-lost child.
3 - The Invisibles [Les invisibles] (2018) - French comedy about a homeless shelter for women that is slated to close, and how the staff and patrons try to overcome the hurdle and reintegrate with society.
2 - Yara (2018) - Lebanese romantic drama set in a remote mountain village.
2 - Lola Pater (2017) - French drama with Fanny Ardant playing a transwoman whose son is looking for her after her former spouse dies.
2 - nîpawistamâsowin: We Will Stand Up (2019) - Canadian documentary about indigenous rights and struggles, centred around the controversial "not guilty" verdict in the death of Colten Boushie.
2 - Thick Lashes of Lauri Mäntyvaara [Lauri Mäntyvaaran tuuheet ripset] (2017) - Finnish comedy of two teenage rebels who grow apart as they grow up. Bizarre but enjoyable.
2 - The Last Serb in Croatia [Posljednji Srbin u Hrvatskoj] (2019) - Croatian satirical comedy about a zombie infection only in Croatia... except the ethnic Serbs are immune.
2 - The Awakening of the Ants [El despertar de las hormigas] (2019) - Costa Rican drama about a young woman trying to wrest control of her life from her husband, children, extended family, and other circumstances.
2 - Talking About Trees (2019) - French-funded Sudanese documentary about four elder filmmakers trying to reestablish cinema in their country by hosting a public screening of Django Unchained. Quite humourous.

I've added them all to the spreadsheet. I'll update the links and imdb votes for these and the rest of the films in the document probably this coming weekend. So if anyone else want to add titles, you don't have to worry about those parts; I'll take care of them.

I've also highlighted in fuchsia the films in the sheet that want/plan to see:
Pity [Oiktos] (2018)
Synonyms [Synonymes] (2019)
The Death and Life of Marsha P. Johnson (2017)
Bacurau (2019) - though this one is also now just above the threshold so we'll have to decide if we will still keep it in if it gets enough votes.
Plus a few more in the bottom section that I may give a go.

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