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#81

Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 1:56 am

Rufus-T wrote:
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You know what's interesting. No American men won best director last decade.
Damien Chazelle. And there's a chance tonight, but unlikely. Yeah we can't put up male Americans who can win the award, and we won't give it to women. Guess it's them furriner dudes that knows how to make them artistic fillums.

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Post by Rufus-T » February 10th, 2020, 1:59 am

Isn't Chazelle Canadian? Maybe you are right.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 2:00 am

Nope, born in Providence RI, home of H.P. Lovecraft among other luminaries.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 2:01 am

Yay my favorite film won something. Hey Costume Design ain't nothing and it's well deserved in this case. That'll be it I'm afraid, all downhill from now on as far as I'm concerned unless something really surprising happens.

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Post by Rufus-T » February 10th, 2020, 2:02 am

Yep. You are right. Father is French. Mother is Canadian. Born in the USA.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » February 10th, 2020, 2:05 am

Can’t believe Gerwig didn’t win for Adapted Screenplay. Wasn’t impressed with Jojo Rabbit really.
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Post by Rufus-T » February 10th, 2020, 2:05 am

The other chance Little Women has is having Florence Pugh upsetting Laura Dern. I think that's it.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 10th, 2020, 2:13 am

Looked it up on the map.. The factory in American Factory is less than an hour from my house.

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Post by mightysparks » February 10th, 2020, 2:22 am

I’d rather no women win if none were worthy than a token sympathy win.
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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 2:22 am

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Looked it up on the map.. The factory in American Factory is less than an hour from my house.
Cool. I've spent a lot of time in Ohio, but it's mostly in the other three corners of the state and the Columbus area - only been in the Cincy area once I think (for Bruce Springsteen in... 1998 I think?). Might have driven through it once also.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 2:24 am

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I’d rather no women win if none were worthy than a token sympathy win.
Your token sympathy win is my best-in-every-category-whether-it-was-nominated-or-not, so...whatever.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » February 10th, 2020, 2:31 am

Did not expect an Eminem performance at the Oscars this year, lol.
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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 2:44 am

Never really got the big deal about Randy Newman - even before he got into his association with Disney/PIXAR crap.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » February 10th, 2020, 2:47 am

Yeah, to me every Randy Newman song I’ve heard sounds like it took about 10 minutes to both write and record.
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Post by morrison-dylan-fan » February 10th, 2020, 2:50 am

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 2:52 am

"my hero who is 55 years older than me doesn't like the same movies and music I do waaaaahhhh!"

Probably not something that happened so much in pre-Internet days.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 10th, 2020, 2:58 am

Doing much better on the technicals than I thought I would.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 3:02 am

Continuing with recent years' trend to spread out the awards - nothing with more than 2 awards so far right?

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 10th, 2020, 3:06 am

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Continuing with recent years' trend to spread out the awards - nothing with more than 2 awards so far right?
Yep. Only 2 bp noms haven't won anything yet: Irishman and Joker. Joker's going to win at least one. Irishman may get shut out.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 3:20 am

Didn't see Bombshell but just looking at those brief clips it was the obvious deserving winner. Not an exciting slate of nominees there. Ooh, Joker makeup...Oscar nominee?

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 10th, 2020, 3:21 am

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Didn't see Bombshell but just looking at those brief clips it was the obvious deserving winner. Not an exciting slate of nominees there. Ooh, Joker makeup...Oscar nominee?
It was my pick just for the Lithgow to Ailes transformation.

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Post by Rufus-T » February 10th, 2020, 3:32 am

Irishman is not going to win anything.

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Post by mightysparks » February 10th, 2020, 3:43 am

OldAle1 wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 2:24 am
mightysparks wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 2:22 am
I’d rather no women win if none were worthy than a token sympathy win.
Your token sympathy win is my best-in-every-category-whether-it-was-nominated-or-not, so...whatever.
Wasn’t talking about Little Women specifically, just any time a woman makes something that is ok everyone wants to shower them with awards because they’re women and it’s the best they can do. Things should win awards because they’re good not just because we need to show diversity.
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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 3:46 am

Great, emotional, heartfelt speech by Hildur Guðnadóttir. Have to say that listening to those clips of the scores, it really stood out too; definitely quite distinct from the other scores.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 3:48 am

mightysparks wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 3:43 am
OldAle1 wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 2:24 am
mightysparks wrote:
February 10th, 2020, 2:22 am
I’d rather no women win if none were worthy than a token sympathy win.
Your token sympathy win is my best-in-every-category-whether-it-was-nominated-or-not, so...whatever.
Wasn’t talking about Little Women specifically, just any time a woman makes something that is ok everyone wants to shower them with awards because they’re women and it’s the best they can do. Things should win awards because they’re good not just because we need to show diversity.
I don't really see that, and give how very few awards women win in the film industry outside of acting, if they're usually being showered with awards just because they're women, there must not be any women worth anything out there. Or maybe it's that women can only make horror films or something? I really don't understand you at all.

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Post by outdoorcats » February 10th, 2020, 3:49 am

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Marty enjoying the Eminem theme park:

Teenagers haven't been listening to Eminem in about 20 years lol. Weirdly out of touch headline by "Discussing Film."

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 3:54 am

Bong wins, Marty gets a standing ovation. That's nice.

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Post by outdoorcats » February 10th, 2020, 3:58 am

Joker was trash, but the music was solid. :cheers:

And :cheers: to Bong for a Directing Oscar! Whoa! That's something I wouldn't have believed 5 years ago if you time traveled and told me...or 6 months ago, for that matter.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 4:02 am

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Joker was trash, but the music was solid. :cheers:

And :cheers: to Bong for a Directing Oscar! Whoa! That's something I wouldn't have believed 5 years ago if you time traveled and told me...or 6 months ago, for that matter.
So 2010s in directing wins...

1 American
1 Brit
1 Frenchman (oops, missed him originally)
1 Taiwanese-American
5 awards to 3 Mexicans
1 South Korean

(10 men, of course)
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Post by outdoorcats » February 10th, 2020, 4:05 am

The 2010s really were the decade of the three amigos as far as awards seasons went.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 4:18 am

Is it my imagination or have they just let Phoenix and Zellweger go on and on... maybe they're running ahead of schedule.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 4:26 am

Wow.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 10th, 2020, 4:27 am

Ok.. So it finally happened.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 4:29 am

Pretty unbelievable - if you look at the history of the awards - that THIS is the film that breaks the language barrier. You'd think it would have been some safe French epic or period piece or something. Maybe it really is the anti-capitalist rhetoric getting under the skins of Hollywood voters. Far from my favorite film but I gotta be happy that AMPAS finally realizes that America isn't always the center of the universe.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » February 10th, 2020, 4:31 am

Yeah I really didn’t think they’d do it...was totally prepared to roll my eyes after hearing 1917 announced as the very safe-choice winner. Cool beans, go Parasite.
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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 4:35 am

I'm wondering how many people will now decide to go out and see it, and then find out what it's about and that it's not in AMERIKKAN. Like the woman who was going to vote for Pete Buttigieg until she found out he was GAY OMG! I'm also interested in seeing how some of the more conservative (taste-wise not so much politics) Hollywood people feel about all this.

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Post by outdoorcats » February 10th, 2020, 4:38 am

It only took the AMPAS 90+ years. :poshclap:

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re: OldAle1, but I guess there's a certain logic in that, had it been a more typical Hollywood/Oscar type film, there would have been an English-language alternative or outright clone to hand the award to instead. I think it's uniqueness ended up working to its advantage.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 10th, 2020, 4:40 am

Yes that's true and I thought about that just as I was posting. Why pick a French Pagnol adaptation when you can pick a British or American Jane Austen adaptation? And I think a lot of voters probably saw it as something pretty new and fresh, particularly if they hadn't seen many (or any) Korean films before.

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Post by outdoorcats » February 10th, 2020, 4:46 am

Yeah it definitely benefited from a perfect storm of events. I doubt another foreign-language film is going to win for a long time, but perhaps a token nomination for BP from at least one will become a regular thing? I'd settle for that.

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Post by outdoorcats » February 10th, 2020, 4:51 am

Wait...

*scans*

Unless I'm missing something, this is the first time a Palm d'Or winner also won the Best Picture Oscar since 1955 (Marty, of all films).

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