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2020 Oscar nominations and discussion

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Post by St. Gloede » February 11th, 2020, 11:53 am

brokenface wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 8:17 am
Bafta has it all ways and has a specific best British film award as well as best film and best foreign language.
That is a really good compromise, and a reason to perhaps pay more attention to the Baftas.

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Post by St. Gloede » February 11th, 2020, 11:56 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 11:07 am
St. Gloede wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 7:51 am
We have talked a bit before about how the Academy is pretty much exclusively people well past their retirement age (and also pretty exclusively white men), but my fairly straightforward theory for why they are picking more and more daring/challenging films is because the 60, 70 and 80-year-old people of today were young in the 60s and 70s. With The Birdman and arguably The Artist, we got the first more experimental winners (by Academy standards) and now, for the first time, a foreign-language film has won. Pretty exciting times, as the Oscars are finally pretty unpredictable, especially as they still go for stuff like Green Book.

I doubt this really means they will start celebrating more and more exciting films though - they will always be the show where films that did well at the box office (but are not seen as "mainstream/lowbrow trash") competes for honours.

Re: Language debare:

On the one hand, it is great that the Academy may start awarding the "Best Film" trophy, and have a degree of positive change,

At the same time, American films will clearly always dominate, and we just have this added guessing game of "oh, ok, there's that one foreign language film again".

If the Oscar's had branded itself as something more akin to what it is, a celebrated of Hollywood or American films they could easily have kept it streamlined, and Best Foreign/International Film would have made sense (but then BAFTAs go to American and other foreign films all the time). So ... Yeah, this will be reality now. Maybe foreign films will be nominated more often, and maybe, at some point, within the next 2-3 decades, another one will win.
Being cynical, HBO planning to film Parasite as a TV series probably had a lot to do with the gongs. Turned it into a promotional exercise for the Hollywood machine.
There is essentially nothing to not be cynical about when it comes to the Oscar. :cheers:

And yes, great point. I'm not sure how much it affected the voters directly, but it probably greatly affected the studio push - which is sometimes everything.

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Post by brokenface » February 11th, 2020, 6:43 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 11:53 am
brokenface wrote:
February 11th, 2020, 8:17 am
Bafta has it all ways and has a specific best British film award as well as best film and best foreign language.
That is a really good compromise, and a reason to perhaps pay more attention to the Baftas.
Baftas has a couple of categories that are specific for local industry (best British film and best British debut director/writer), the rest is pretty much an Oscar mirror with usually slightly more Brits in the acting categories the only difference. Not too exciting

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Post by albajos » February 14th, 2020, 1:19 pm

Don't know if anyone did this already

4 Gisaengchung
3 1917
2 Ford v Ferrari
2 Joker
2 Once Upon a Time ...in Hollywood
1 Bombshell
1 Jojo Rabbit
1 Judy
1 Little Women
1 Marriage Story
1 Rocketman
1 Toy Story 4
( and 1 american factory, learning to skateboard in a warzone, Hair Love, Neighbor's Window)

The Irishman only BP nominee not to win any awards

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Personally I like it more when more movies share the awards to spread the love so to speak. A big winner just overshadows everything else, and sometimes like with Titanic which won no writing and acting awards, the movie are not something you would revisit. Well, 1997 was a weird year. As Good as It Gets and The Full Monty as best picture nominess? Good Will Hunting and LA Coinfidental as the dramatic ones. But I would watch any one of those 4 several times before I see Titanic again.

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