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The Golden Globe and Academy Award live thread - 2019

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Re: The Golden Globe and Academy Award live thread - 2019

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Post by Shagrrotten » January 27th, 2019, 2:41 am

That feels like more of your sarcastic feelings about everyone else’s thoughts than it really feels like thought s of your own. I know that you didn’t grow up with these characters or stories and so have less connection to them than someone like me, but I would still like to hear your real thoughts on it as a movie, not as a thing other people are talking about.

For my part, conversationally, like I said before I think making Thanos the main character is what sets this movie apart. And essentially making him a Trump figure of narcissism and presenting himself like he’s the only one who’s willing and able to make the tough choices to fix the problems in the galaxy, while also making him physically and intellectually powerful enough to do it, makes for a compelling narrative structure. Obviously it’s still ultimately a big dumb action movie, but I felt like it was a good one. Well motivated, with character moments for most of the main characters, again especially Thanos. His scene of getting the soul stone with Gamora actually made me tear up because you see a little bit into how deep his psychosis goes, that he does love her AND is willing to sacrifice her. You may make fun of it as faux deep, but I don’t dismiss it so easily. I don’t see a reason to.

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Post by OldAle1 » January 27th, 2019, 2:52 am

I get that its *somewhat* interesting as a concept, but it just didn't feel very well worked-out to me, and I'm sorry, having a motivation such as he shows just doesn't cut it - yes, you can say that it makes a point about environmentalism, but I just don't see the value of a godlike, all-powerful, alien being's view on environmentalism, it doesn't really connect to our world in any meaningful way beyond "oh, like, maybe that means we should conserve and not have so many babies and shit". To me it felt very third-grade, which in and of itself wouldn't make it awful but combined with the endless battles and this need to shoehorn dozens of characters into an ultimately pointless story (unless, maybe, some of those characters are really dead forever?? OH NO!!) is pure money-grubbing and if it serves a story interest, it's just not an interesting or compelling one to me.

And actually for what its worth I DID grow up on some of these characters - Thor and Doctor Strange were two of my favorite characters as a kid, and I always thought the idea of the "epic" cosmic battle with lots of heroes for the FATE OF THE UNIVERSE was cool. Until I realized that it wasn't - and that it had been done many, many times by the time I read Marvel Superheroes Secret Wars and DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths in the 90s. So yeah, I have at least a little knowledge of this stuff and connection to it, and I bet you don't have a copy of this

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Post by Shagrrotten » January 27th, 2019, 3:11 am

I don’t think that’s the point it was trying to make. I don’t think we’re meant to think Thanos is right. We’re not meant to think of genocide as a viable solution. I think the point is that bullies and narcissists can too often impose their will on those in less powerful positions simply because of their class or status or political or military positions. People in those positions can make decisions that affect all of us (except for them, because nothing changes for Thanos, does it? Unless by chance his snap were to take himself out, which would be too ironic to be acceptable I think) without our input, without our voices to be heard. Those in power are not typically an altruistic Captain America or Superman figure and just like the “who watches the watchmen?” storyline of Civil War, they don’t always have our interests or the law in mind, or maybe even any checks and balances in place to mitigate their impact.

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Post by esiersdale » January 31st, 2019, 8:06 pm

I'm trying to make a push and see all 52 movies that were nominated for an Academy Award, ideally before the ceremony on the 24th. I've seen about half to date and have plans to see most of the others, but am struggling on finding a place in Boston to see the below films. Some are in the gap between cinema release and DVD while others I have no clue where to find (especially Never Look Away & Mirai no Mirai). Any tips would be super helpful

Mirai no Mirai 
Mary Queen of Scots 
Hale County This Morning, This Evening 
Capernaum 
Never Look Away 
Shoplifters 
Border 

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Post by Nathan Treadway » January 31st, 2019, 8:28 pm

Shoplifters will be on DVD in a couple weeks (before the ceremony)

I haven't figured out the rest of those, either.. I'm pretty much looking for the same ones you are.

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Post by Timec » January 31st, 2019, 8:43 pm

Never Look Away is opening in some theaters here in the Washington DC area in two weeks, so it might hit your area around the same time.

Edit: I have no idea if this is accessible for you, but it looks like Capernaum is playing at the Landmark theatre in Cambridge.

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Post by albajos » February 24th, 2019, 10:47 pm

Of course is my internet acting up again, so don't know if I'll bother wait to see if it corrects itself. I could watch it on TV perhaps, but can't post in this thread regardless.

Without hosts we wont have awkward Franco-like moments anyway.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 24th, 2019, 11:30 pm

albajos wrote:
February 24th, 2019, 10:47 pm
Of course is my internet acting up again, so don't know if I'll bother wait to see if it corrects itself. I could watch it on TV perhaps, but can't post in this thread regardless.

Without hosts we wont have awkward Franco-like moments anyway.
Bummer. My internet/cable are fine...but we're having a windstorm and II wouldn't be shocked if we have a power outage. If I suddenly disappear for any length of time that'll be why.

Ended up with 39 seen myself, or 3/4 of the films, likely the highest percentage I''ve ever managed.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 25th, 2019, 12:00 am

This starts in an hour right?

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 12:01 am

yes, just enough time to have my pizza and drink enough wine so that it starts to kill the boredom.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 25th, 2019, 12:07 am

Made it up to all but 1 this year (like last year). Didn't get the German foreign nominee in. But, it's chances to win either of the 2 it's up for is pretty much slim to none.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 12:12 am

Nathan Treadway wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 12:07 am
Made it up to all but 1 this year (like last year). Didn't get the German foreign nominee in. But, it's chances to win either of the 2 it's up for is pretty much slim to none.
That's one I actually could have seen easily but...too much effort to drive yesterday. It would have been the first time I'd ever seen all of the FF noms before the awards - heck it might be the first time I'd seen all of them from a given year, I've never really made an effort.

But I just wasn't going to pay to see The Wife or Ralph Breaks the Internet or a few others. Kudos for those who make the effort I guess but it's not for me.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 12:27 am

I will never fall in love with the red carpet shit.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 25th, 2019, 12:47 am

OldAle1 wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 12:12 am
Nathan Treadway wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 12:07 am
Made it up to all but 1 this year (like last year). Didn't get the German foreign nominee in. But, it's chances to win either of the 2 it's up for is pretty much slim to none.
That's one I actually could have seen easily but...too much effort to drive yesterday. It would have been the first time I'd ever seen all of the FF noms before the awards - heck it might be the first time I'd seen all of them from a given year, I've never really made an effort.

But I just wasn't going to pay to see The Wife or Ralph Breaks the Internet or a few others. Kudos for those who make the effort I guess but it's not for me.
I wouldn't go so far as saying I paid to see all of them. A good portion of them I didn't.

The ones I paid for
-Animated and Live Action shorts
-Free Solo
-Mary Poppins Returns
-Incredibles
-First Man
-A Quiet Place
-Isle of Dogs

I watched Roma and Buster Scruggs on Netflix, so, I guess that counts, as well, right?

I skip the Red Carpet stuff, too.. Give me the awards!

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 12:57 am

I still pay for most new stuff, can't let go of the cinema experience. Though it's hard when stuff like Bohemian Rhapsody is in the mix. I don't think I'll ever pay for another film written by the dude who wrote that and Darkest Hour. And that's the one film I really hope doesn't win anything.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 1:05 am

And speaking of that meretricious film, that opening was better than anything in the fucking movie. All downhill...

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 1:13 am

Totally expected first award. Maybe not my favorite, but deserved.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 25th, 2019, 1:17 am

FREE SOLO!!!

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 1:19 am

One I didn't see, though I had plenty of chances. My brother who is a sometime climber saw it and loved it. Eh, next year I'll see all the winners!

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 25th, 2019, 1:20 am

Was Free Solo a surprise? I have no idea what the expected winners are.

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Post by Teproc » February 25th, 2019, 1:22 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 1:20 am
Was Free Solo a surprise? I have no idea what the expected winners are.
RBG was the perceived favorite, with Free Solo as its main contender and Minding the Gap as a dark horse.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 1:27 am

Am I the only one who thought the makeup job on Cheney was great, but the work on most of the other characters was pretty second-rate?

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 25th, 2019, 1:29 am

OldAle1 wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 1:19 am
One I didn't see, though I had plenty of chances. My brother who is a sometime climber saw it and loved it. Eh, next year I'll see all the winners!
Saw it in IMAX. Easily my favorite film from last year.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 1:39 am

I don't know if it played on IMAX near me. I'm usually so out of the loop with docs but I guess I'd pay to see this on a really big screen now, after hearing about it from my brother and reading more. Oh well, can't see it all.

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Post by outdoorcats » February 25th, 2019, 1:49 am

Costume design was definitely one award Black Panther deserved.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 1:50 am

Yeah can't disagree, though it was a pretty strong category this year.

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Post by outdoorcats » February 25th, 2019, 1:56 am

It will be interesting to see if it wins Best Original Song given Kendrick and SZA won't be performing. When would be the last time that happened?

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 1:57 am

outdoorcats wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 1:56 am
It will be interesting to see if it wins Best Original Song given Kendrick and SZA won't be performing. When would be the last time that happened?
"City of Stars' 2 years ago. But I wouldn't bet against "Shallow".

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 25th, 2019, 2:07 am

Is Roma going to get all three ICM awards?

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 2:11 am

That would be cool and obviously unprecedented. I just can't really believe that it will win Best Pic though. I guess if it does that really opens things up in the future, at least in theory.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 25th, 2019, 2:21 am

Editing for Bohemian Rhapsody is joke.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 2:25 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
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Editing for Bohemian Rhapsody is joke.
True, but not the strongest slate of nominees overall.

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Post by sebby » February 25th, 2019, 2:30 am

What was Mahersala's speech like? He already apologized to the family and I'm curious if he doubled down or just played it safe.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 2:32 am

Played it safe.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 2:43 am

Spike Lee, looking like an elder statesman. I feel old.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 25th, 2019, 2:45 am

LOL Disney wasn't going to get shut out of animated.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 2:47 am

OMG SRSLY A PIXAR FILM WINS SOMETHING WOW I CANT FUCKING BELIEEEVVE IT!!!

(not a bad film but I definitely liked at least 2 of the others more)

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Post by OldAle1 » February 25th, 2019, 2:49 am

Kind of a shock that Roma is the first Mexican winner of the Foreign award.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 25th, 2019, 2:51 am

Pace seems pretty quick without a host

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Post by funkybusiness » February 25th, 2019, 3:08 am

I'm not watching just caught a couple bits so I've only got two comments
a. the best looking film they're advertising isn't a film it's that Bob Fosse miniseries and
b. did we really need a gentrified trap remix of Que Sera Sera?

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