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Post by beavis » September 28th, 2017, 9:07 pm

Finally watched The Light Shines Only There this evening, and must say it's one of the best recent Japanese films I've seen in a long while!
So I checked how it ranks amongst the other Japanese movies I've seen from the years 2007 - 2016 (rankings out of 5 stars)
out of 198 features seen in total for this country and period, there were exactly 15 masterpieces

Jitsuroku Rengô Sekigun: Asama Sansô e no Michi - 2007 - United Red Army - 5
Mogari no Mori - 2007 - The Mourning Forest - 4,5
Soko Nomi Nite Hikari Kagayaku - 2014 - The Light Shines Only There - 4,5
Shinboru - 2009 - Symbol - 4,5
Petaru Dansu - 2013 - Pedal Dance - 4,5
Himizu - 2011 - - 4,5
Akumu Tantei 2 - 2008 - Nightmare Detective 2 - 4,5
Karafuru - 2010 - Colorful - 4,5
Mazâ Wôtâ - 2010 - Mother Water - 4,5
Nanayomachi - 2008 - Nanayo - 4,5
Bakushi - 2007 - - 4,5
Kotoko - 2011 - - 4,5
Tokyo Tribe - 2014 - - 4,5
Kimi no Na Wa. - 2016 - Your Name - 4,5
Omoide no Mânî - 2014 - When Marnie Was There - 4,5

curious about your top lists and possible tips!

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Post by fori » September 29th, 2017, 12:08 pm

Happy Hour (2015)
Mubanso (2016)
Flower of Shanidar (2013)
The Tale of Iya (2013)
Bitter Honey (2016)
64 (2016)
Kono kuni no sora (2015)
The Little House (2014)
Little Forest (2014 & 2015)
Tokyo Family (2013)
Kyuketsu (2011)
Monsters Club (2011)
Tokyo Park (2011)
Heaven's Story (2010)
Sweet Little Lies (2010)
Alice in the Underworld (2009)
Goth (2008)
All Around Us (2008)
A bao a qu (2007)
Life Can Be So Wonderful (2007)
Some I think you may have missed, apologies if any of these have already been posted in this thread.

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Post by beavis » September 29th, 2017, 12:46 pm

I've seen some of those, but missed most of them indeed
Have been dying to see Heaven's Story (2010) for ages!

with only 198 seen out of a ten years period, of course I missed a lot, that goes without saying
but are any of them top 10 material? That why I was curious about rankings :) (no matter if titles are already mentioned)

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Post by cinephage » September 29th, 2017, 12:51 pm

I really enjoyed :
Riaru onigokko (Sono Sion) - Tag
I am a Hero (Shinsuke Sato)
Umimachi Diary (Kore-Eda) - Our little sister
Tokyo Sonata (Kiyoshi Kurosawa)
An (Naomi Kawase)
Saya Zamuraï (Hitoshi Matsumoto)
Ookami kodomo no Ame to Yuki (Mamoru Hosoda)
Harmonium (Koji Fukada)
Kaguyahime no monogatari (Isao Takahata)

I've seen more titles I loved from Kurosawa (Shokuzai), Kore-Eda (Still Walking) and Hosoda (Bakemono no ko) that I really loved, but I need to discover more directors.

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Post by fori » September 29th, 2017, 12:59 pm

Heaven's Story, Flower of Shanidar would be in my top 10 Japanese films of all time!
A bao a qu, Iya monogatari, & Happy Hour are also top 20 material.
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Post by RBG » September 29th, 2017, 1:14 pm

i'm sad no one likes 0.5mm, one of the best films i've seen in recent years, japanese or no

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/0.5+mm/ 20 checks :(
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Post by fori » September 29th, 2017, 1:15 pm

RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:14:45 AM wrote:i'm sad no one likes 0.5mm, one of the best films i've seen in recent years, japanese or no
Love it, but didn't post it because beavis has already checked it.

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Post by RBG » September 29th, 2017, 1:19 pm

good good. at least this thread isn't overrun with sono and iwai. also kore-eda and kwase. just don't get the love

of course i much prefer post-war japanese cinema. here's another one i loved though

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/was ... ku+ga+ita/

a small miracle of a film. 10 checks
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Post by fori » September 29th, 2017, 1:26 pm

RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:19:12 AM wrote:of course i much prefer post-war japanese cinema
Definitely not! Japanese cinema really only came into its own quite recently.

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Post by RBG » September 29th, 2017, 1:26 pm

lol ok we shall agree to disagree on that. i do like some of ishii's films too
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Post by beavis » September 29th, 2017, 3:47 pm

RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:14:45 AM wrote:i'm sad no one likes 0.5mm, one of the best films i've seen in recent years, japanese or no

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/0.5+mm/ 20 checks :(
Seen it this week!
liked it, especially the performance of Sakura Ando (always good, from what I've seen)
But just like with Kakera, the characters and story is a bit to quirky for my taste to reach true greatness. Compared to the realistic performances in The Light Shines Only There espcially (next to 0,5mm the other Kinema Junpo fav of 2014 and also a female director) it falls a bit short

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Post by OldAle1 » September 29th, 2017, 3:52 pm

fori on Sep 29 2017, 07:26:09 AM wrote:
RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:19:12 AM wrote:of course i much prefer post-war japanese cinema
Definitely not! Japanese cinema really only came into its own quite recently.
There's a statement I've never heard before - and would hope to never hear again.
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Post by Fergenaprido » October 2nd, 2017, 3:13 pm

beavis on Sep 29 2017, 06:46:34 AM wrote:with only 198 seen out of a ten years period, of course I missed a lot, that goes without saying
"only 198".

I think you've seen more Japanese films from the last ten years than most people will see from Japan ever.

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Post by OldAle1 » October 2nd, 2017, 3:27 pm

Fergenaprido on Oct 2 2017, 09:13:02 AM wrote:
beavis on Sep 29 2017, 06:46:34 AM wrote:with only 198 seen out of a ten years period, of course I missed a lot, that goes without saying
"only 198".

I think you've seen more Japanese films from the last ten years than most people will see from Japan ever.
I was thinking the same thing. Even among the crazies on this forum who watch 20+ movies every single week, I think you'd find few people who have seen almost 200 films from a 10-year period from a country they don't live in (apart from the USA). I mean, for me the only decade/country that would be close would be the 1960s for France and I don't think I've hit 200 yet. But I guess there are quite a few people who focus on one country, and probably more who focus heavily on Japan than any other place.
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Post by beavis » October 2nd, 2017, 3:40 pm

My focus has been slightly away from Japan to be honest :)
I meant it in the sense of compared to the output of the country. I do not know the exact figures, but if i recall correctly Japan was about 500 movies per year...
I see around 200 new movies every year, and my focus is pretty International... Unfocussed you could say :)

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Post by beavis » October 2nd, 2017, 3:48 pm

Just did a quick search in the MM-database of how many French movies i've seen from the same period: 160
A similar number i guess. Is there any interest to start similar topics for other countries? Or does the 21st century list already provide enough recommendations...?
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Post by St. Gloede » October 2nd, 2017, 7:46 pm

Notes:

- Had a hard time picking a winner between the top 4-5
- I need to see more contemporary Iwai
- Sono is definitely the best Japanese director currently working and I need to finish his filmography
- Nakashima needs to focus, Kawaki was a big step down, though Paco is the only one that dropped below the 7/10
- Kudos to Kiarostami for creating a beautiful film in a language foreign to him, and what a send off
- Though Miyazaki beats him Shinkai is definitely the most interesting anime director currently working
- Hosoda would have gotten 2 in if I extended the HMs to 10
- Any opinions on Hitoshi Matsumoto other films? For some reason I haven't seen any of them ...

1. Jigoku de naze warui / Why Don't You Play in Hell (2013, Sion Sono)
2. Kaze tachinu / The Wind Rises (2013, Hayao Miyazaki)
3. Kokuhaku / Confessions (2010, Tetsuya Nakashima)
4. Ai no mukidashi / Love Exposure (2008, Sion Sono)
5. Rippu Van Winkuru no hanayome / A Bride For Rip Van Winkle (2016, Shunji Iwai)
6. Like Someone in Love (2012, Abbas Kiarostami)
7. Tsumetai nettaigyo / Cold Fish (2010, Sion Sono)
8. Shinboru (2009, Hitoshi Matsumoto)
9. Koto no ha no niwa / The Garden of Words (2013, Makoto Shinkai)
10. Kibô no kuni (2012, Sion Sono)

HM's:
Byôsoku 5 senchimêtoru / 5 Centimeters Per Second (2007, Makoto Shinkai)
Riaru onigokko / Tag (2015, Sion Sono)
Soshite chichi ni naru / Like Father, Like Son (2013, Hirokazu Koreeda)
Kimi no na wa. / Your Name (2016, Makoto Shinkai)
Kaguyahime no monogatari / The Tale of Princess Kaguya (2013, Isao Takahata)

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Post by St. Gloede » October 2nd, 2017, 7:53 pm

OldAle1 on Oct 2 2017, 09:27:57 AM wrote:
Fergenaprido on Oct 2 2017, 09:13:02 AM wrote:
beavis on Sep 29 2017, 06:46:34 AM wrote:with only 198 seen out of a ten years period, of course I missed a lot, that goes without saying
"only 198".

I think you've seen more Japanese films from the last ten years than most people will see from Japan ever.
I was thinking the same thing. Even among the crazies on this forum who watch 20+ movies every single week, I think you'd find few people who have seen almost 200 films from a 10-year period from a country they don't live in (apart from the USA). I mean, for me the only decade/country that would be close would be the 1960s for France and I don't think I've hit 200 yet. But I guess there are quite a few people who focus on one country, and probably more who focus heavily on Japan than any other place.
Agreed. I'm really close for Japan in the 60s with 191, but that's it. After that it's 70s and 60s France at respectively 141 and 130 (still don't get how the 70s beat the 60s there), Italy in the 70s at 110 and Germany in the 20s at 109. And yes I'm one of those sad people who track how many films I have seen by country and decade. (Well, just the top 7, I'm not completely lost).

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Post by beavis » October 3rd, 2017, 6:56 am

St. Gloede on Oct 2 2017, 01:46:58 PM wrote:Any opinions on Hitoshi Matsumoto other films? For some reason I haven't seen any of them
He is always fun and original. Symbol stands out as a masterpiece though, but Big Man Japan is also a must see.

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Post by beavis » October 3rd, 2017, 7:05 am

Did another database check: i've seen 179 Japanese movies from the 60's
on average i watch more old movies than new ones... But the new period is shorter... :)

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Post by St. Gloede » October 3rd, 2017, 7:47 am

RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:19:12 AM wrote:good good. at least this thread isn't overrun with sono and iwai. also kore-eda and kwase. just don't get the love

of course i much prefer post-war japanese cinema. here's another one i loved though

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/was ... ku+ga+ita/

a small miracle of a film. 10 checks
Oh dear, and then I stumbled in.

At least I have no Kawase. We can agree there. I like her, but I haven't loved any of her films yet, and in general I agree on Koreeda, Like Father Like Son and Still Life are the only ones I rated 8+. Interesting that you listed Iwai as someone overexposed. I find him incredibly ignored, even by me. :(

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Post by St. Gloede » October 3rd, 2017, 8:23 am

OldAle1 on Sep 29 2017, 09:52:34 AM wrote:
fori on Sep 29 2017, 07:26:09 AM wrote:
RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:19:12 AM wrote:of course i much prefer post-war japanese cinema
Definitely not! Japanese cinema really only came into its own quite recently.
There's a statement I've never heard before - and would hope to never hear again.
There are a few people who only likes the 80s to present steam-punk, experimental and often also the ultra-violent style - but they generally only like newer films from all country. There is at least one other prominent poster who feels this way here. In a way I can see how it's easy to not enjoy the more reserved style of old Japan (though saying it had not come into it's own is just strange, the classic Japanese style is one of the most recognizable).

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Post by RBG » October 3rd, 2017, 1:27 pm

St. Gloede on Oct 3 2017, 01:47:51 AM wrote:
RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:19:12 AM wrote:good good. at least this thread isn't overrun with sono and iwai. also kore-eda and kwase. just don't get the love

of course i much prefer post-war japanese cinema. here's another one i loved though

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/was ... ku+ga+ita/

a small miracle of a film. 10 checks
Oh dear, and then I stumbled in.

At least I have no Kawase. We can agree there. I like her, but I haven't loved any of her films yet, and in general I agree on Koreeda, Like Father Like Son and Still Life are the only ones I rated 8+. Interesting that you listed Iwai as someone overexposed. I find him incredibly ignored, even by me. :(
my reaction to iwai is based on him being featured in director's cup on my other forum. i got through lily chou chou but couldn't finish any of the others :unsure:
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Post by St. Gloede » October 3rd, 2017, 2:11 pm

RBG on Oct 3 2017, 07:27:02 AM wrote:
St. Gloede on Oct 3 2017, 01:47:51 AM wrote:
RBG on Sep 29 2017, 07:19:12 AM wrote:good good. at least this thread isn't overrun with sono and iwai. also kore-eda and kwase. just don't get the love

of course i much prefer post-war japanese cinema. here's another one i loved though

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/was ... ku+ga+ita/

a small miracle of a film. 10 checks
Oh dear, and then I stumbled in.

At least I have no Kawase. We can agree there. I like her, but I haven't loved any of her films yet, and in general I agree on Koreeda, Like Father Like Son and Still Life are the only ones I rated 8+. Interesting that you listed Iwai as someone overexposed. I find him incredibly ignored, even by me. :(
my reaction to iwai is based on him being featured in director's cup on my other forum. i got through lily chou chou but couldn't finish any of the others :unsure:
Fair enough! Personally I will try to do an Iwai marathon quest at one point in the near future. I have seen 4 so far, all were great, and Picnic is now one of my favorite film - A Bride For Rip Van Winkle was also obviously amazing, hence the inclusion.

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Post by Fergenaprido » October 3rd, 2017, 4:08 pm

beavis on Oct 2 2017, 09:40:56 AM wrote:My focus has been slightly away from Japan to be honest :)
I meant it in the sense of compared to the output of the country. I do not know the exact figures, but if i recall correctly Japan was about 500 movies per year...
I see around 200 new movies every year, and my focus is pretty International... Unfocussed you could say :)
When I did a quick check there were 5000+ feature films from Japan (not including documentaries) from the last 10 years, so 500/year seems about right. I was genuinely surprised that the output was that high.

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Post by beavis » October 3rd, 2017, 4:41 pm

It has always been one of the major movie countries
A lot of it is of course straight to video genre stuff, after the collapse of the studio's, but still a nice amount to choose from!

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Post by DareDaniel » October 5th, 2017, 6:53 pm

Love Exposure (2008)
Tokyo Tribe (2014)
Himizu (2011)
Why Don't You Play in Hell? (2013)
Cold Fish (2010)
Confessions (2010)
Your Name (2016)
Still the Water (2014)
Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone (2007)
Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance (2009)
Brass Knuckle Boys (2008)
The Wind Rises (2013)
Like Father, Like Son (2013)
13 Assassins (2010)
Wolf Children (2012)
Closed Diary (2007)
The World of Kanako (2014)
Adrift in Tokyo (2007)
One Piece: Strong World (2009)
Guilty of Romance (2011)

In 280 films seen during this period.
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Post by DareDaniel » October 5th, 2017, 7:06 pm

fori on Sep 29 2017, 06:08:48 AM wrote:Happy Hour (2015)
Mubanso (2016)
Flower of Shanidar (2013)
The Tale of Iya (2013)
Bitter Honey (2016)
64 (2016)
Kono kuni no sora (2015)
The Little House (2014)
Little Forest (2014 & 2015)
Tokyo Family (2013)
Kyuketsu (2011)
Monsters Club (2011)
Tokyo Park (2011)
Heaven's Story (2010)
Sweet Little Lies (2010)
Alice in the Underworld (2009)
Goth (2008)
All Around Us (2008)
A bao a qu (2007)
Life Can Be So Wonderful (2007)
Some I think you may have missed, apologies if any of these have already been posted in this thread.
I gave up on watching Flower of Shanidar with english subs, I've been waiting years for it and still nothing. :(

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Post by fori » October 6th, 2017, 4:12 am

DareDaniel on Oct 5 2017, 12:53:57 PM wrote:In 280 films seen during this period.
WOW.... that's a mad heap...
Now I gotta check how many I've seen...

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Post by St. Gloede » October 6th, 2017, 6:22 am

Welcome onboard, Daniel! Great to have you here as well.

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Post by tommy_leazaq » October 6th, 2017, 6:35 am

Departures - 8
Confessions - 8
Your Name - 8
Our Little Sister - 8

Like Father, Like Son - 7

Love Exposure - 6.5
Fish Story - 6.5
Ponyo - 6.5
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Post by DareDaniel » October 6th, 2017, 10:26 pm

St. Gloede on Oct 6 2017, 12:22:17 AM wrote:Welcome onboard, Daniel! Great to have you here as well.
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Post by DareDaniel » October 6th, 2017, 10:27 pm

Fergenaprido on Oct 3 2017, 10:08:39 AM wrote:
beavis on Oct 2 2017, 09:40:56 AM wrote:My focus has been slightly away from Japan to be honest :)
I meant it in the sense of compared to the output of the country. I do not know the exact figures, but if i recall correctly Japan was about 500 movies per year...
I see around 200 new movies every year, and my focus is pretty International... Unfocussed you could say :)
When I did a quick check there were 5000+ feature films from Japan (not including documentaries) from the last 10 years, so 500/year seems about right. I was genuinely surprised that the output was that high.
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Post by Good_Will_Harding » October 7th, 2017, 9:21 pm

I was going to try and make a list, but it turned out to be just Studio Ghibli films and stuff made by Hirokazu Koreeda. Suffice to say, I've got some catching up to do myself.

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Post by Good_Will_Harding » October 7th, 2017, 9:29 pm

Fuck it, here's my list anyway:

1. The Wind Rises (2013)
2. The Tale of the Princess Kaguya (2013)
3. Like Someone in Love (2012)
4. Love Exposure (2008)
5. Like Father, Like Son (2013)
6. Your Name (2016)
7. When Marnie Was There (2014)
8. Our Little Sister (2015)
9. From Up on Poppy Hill (2011)
10. Tokyo Sonata (2008)

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5 Centimeters Per Second (2007)
Departures (2008)
13 Assassins (2010)
I Wish (2011)
Wolf Children (2012)
The Unforgiven (2013)
Journey to the Shore (2015)
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Post by spinal tapper » October 28th, 2017, 2:44 pm

The Wind Rises
Wolf Children
Your Name
Departures
Tokyo Sonata
Ponyo
Princess Kaguya
When Marnie Was There
Love Exposure
Tokyo Tribe

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Post by Torgo » September 9th, 2020, 11:43 pm

In my earlier days I've been crazy for Japanese cinema of the 90s and 00s (lured in by Kitano, Miike and the likes). 2007 might very much be the point where this country's output started to fascinate me less - and I'm not entirely sure if that's purely "subjective" (we're not speaking of science here) or the quality indeed might have dropped.
The big exception for me are animes, which shone not only through Ghibli and Shinkai. Many favorites for me there.

Two of the most important names of contemporary Japanese filmmaking are without a doubt Sono and Koreeda, and I just don't have that much love for them like I had with my "starting picks". Well.
I'll need to check out your recommendations here. New ones are welcome, since the last post here is 3 years old :)

I have seen 60 films from this period (2007-2020) and am kinda sad, but not much surprised to see that of my 17 top ratings only 3 are not animes. :mellow: Skipping those (I think everyone of you has heard of Shinkai, Kaguya and Ponyo enough), there are:

Confessions (2010)
Shoplifters (2018)
Love Exposure (2008)
Like Father, Like Son (2013)
Symbol (2009)
Still Walking (2008)
Departures (2008)
13 Assassins (2010)


.. okay, everyone will have heard of these as well. :lol: We need Onderhond here!

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Post by Onderhond » September 10th, 2020, 7:36 am

Heh, not sure how I ever missed this thread.

For the period 2007-2016 I have 700 films
For the period 2011-2020 I have 588 films.

Also had a toplist lying around that lists my Japanese favorites from 2010-2019.

Top 10:
01. Helter Skelter by Mika Ninagawa
02. The Limit of Sleeping Beauty by Ken Ninomiya
03. Petal Dance by Hiroshi Ishikawa
04. The Whispering Star by Sion Sono
05. Colonel Panics by Jinseok Cho
06. Short Peace by Koji Morimoto, Hiroaki Ando, Hajime Katoki, Shuhei Morita, Katsuhiro Otomo
07. That's It by Gakuryu Ishii
08. Yakuza Apocalypse by Takashi Miike
09. Tokyo Tribe by Sion Sono
10. Kizumonogatari I: Tekketsu-hen by Tatsuya Oishi, Akiyuki Shinbo

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September 9th, 2020, 11:43 pm
2007 might very much be the point where this country's output started to fascinate me less - and I'm not entirely sure if that's purely "subjective" (we're not speaking of science here) or the quality indeed might have dropped.
I think it's a bit of an action/reaction thing, but it would definitely be nice to have some better researched information on this subject.

As I experienced it, Western interest in Japanese/Asian cinema started to drop around that time. I don't think it was ever very profitable to begin with and critics were ready for their next exotic hype. With these big markets starting to drop, Japanese cinema seemed to focus more on the local market (more anime/manga adaptations, more police thrillers/TV franchise extensions). And you see crazier projects like Taste of Tea or Survive Style 5+ dropping off the tables. The ones that did make it simply didn't receive much attention, unless they were already part of an established and select group (like Sono, Koreeda, Kawase, Nakashima - which sucks for people like Ninagawa, if she'd made her films +/- 15 years ago she'd be legendary by now). But yeah, that's my personal interpretation :)

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October 3rd, 2017, 8:23 am
There are a few people who only likes the 80s to present steam-punk, experimental and often also the ultra-violent style - but they generally only like newer films from all country. There is at least one other prominent poster who feels this way here.
Hmmm. I have a feeling that may refer to me, but that's a bit of crude typecasting there. These are definitely the genre/styles I love the most, but there are plenty of Japanese dramas among my favorites.

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Post by St. Gloede » September 10th, 2020, 7:54 am

Too long ago to remember, but it must have been you. :lol:

(though I actually knew people in real life like that too)

Sorry for the typecasting.

And excellent reasoning as to why Japanese cinema got less interesting to the international arthouse crowd - they just weren't selling as many films to us anymore. I also enjoy the flip, i.e. that it wasn't Japanese cinema that changed resulting in less exposure, but the international festivals, cinemas, etc. giving them less exposure, causing them to change. Very intuitive, though a little sad.

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Post by Onderhond » September 10th, 2020, 8:58 am

St. Gloede wrote:
September 10th, 2020, 7:54 am
Sorry for the typecasting.
Haha, no worries. It does describe which films are my absolute favs, so I don't blame you.

If I'd filter out the (core) live action dramas and limit entries to 1 director, my top 10 would look like this:

01. Petal Dance by Hiroshi Ishikawa
02. My Man by Kazuyoshi Kumakiri
03. Kotoko by Shinya Tsukamoto
04. Himizu by Sion Sono
05. Our Little Sister by Hirokazu Koreeda
06. A Bride for Rip Van Winkle by Shunji Iwai
07. The Light Shines Only There by Mipo Oh (the film that started this thread)
08. Asako I & II by Ryusuke Hamaguchi
09. The Tale of Iya by Tetsuichiro Tsuta
10. The Furthest End Awaits by Hsiu-Chiung Chiang

St. Gloede wrote:
September 10th, 2020, 7:54 am
And excellent reasoning as to why Japanese cinema got less interesting to the international arthouse crowd - they just weren't selling as many films to us anymore. I also enjoy the flip, i.e. that it wasn't Japanese cinema that changed resulting in less exposure, but the international festivals, cinemas, etc. giving them less exposure, causing them to change. Very intuitive, though a little sad.
I think it was even more obvious with South-Korean cinema, where interest also suddenly dropped, even though their output largely remained the same. Then 10 years later a film like Parasite gets picked up as if it was something new/fresh. It's really strange how the West cycles between "foreign" cinema, even when more sustained interest is warranted.

In Japan's case, another factor in its demise was probably the stagnant horror scene. It really did a lot for Japanese cinema in the beginning, but it never really moved anywhere beyond the Ringu-like appearances/styling (the popular stuff at least), which could only keep people's attention for so long. They're still making those films too, but there I'm not surprised international attention finally dropped off :)

But again, this is mostly from a consumer's perspective, I'm not embedded enough in the industry to make definite statements :)

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