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Post by AdamH » February 16th, 2013, 10:59 am

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Post by joachimt » February 16th, 2013, 11:01 am

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EDIT: Ah, I just saw the off-topic-lounge. Not confused anymore.
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Post by joachimt » February 16th, 2013, 11:05 am

Shouldn't this be in the general board?
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Post by AdamH » February 16th, 2013, 1:43 pm

A Good Day to Die Hard worth watching?

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Post by mightysparks » February 16th, 2013, 1:45 pm

Typical mainstream trash, I'd never watch it in a million years.
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Post by brokenface » February 16th, 2013, 1:58 pm

so if someone mentions a film in the Off Topic Lounge now are they being simultaneously off-topic (because they should be in the Film Lounge) and on-topic (because they are being off topic in the Off Topic Lounge) :wacko:

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Post by AdamH » February 16th, 2013, 2:07 pm

brokenface on Feb 16 2013, 06:58:42 AM wrote:so if someone mentions a film in the Off Topic Lounge now are they being simultaneously off-topic (because they should be in the Film Lounge) and on-topic (because they are being off topic in the Off Topic Lounge) :wacko:
This post is off-topic therefore should be in the off-topic lounge not in the film lounge. :whistling:

Once posted in the off-topic lounge it will become on-topic and should then be removed. :teehee:
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Post by mightysparks » February 16th, 2013, 2:09 pm

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Post by brokenface » February 16th, 2013, 2:10 pm

intothewild on Feb 16 2013, 07:07:20 AM wrote:
brokenface on Feb 16 2013, 06:58:42 AM wrote:so if someone mentions a film in the Off Topic Lounge now are they being simultaneously off-topic (because they should be in the Film Lounge) and on-topic (because they are being off topic in the Off Topic Lounge) :wacko:
This post is off-topic therefore should be in the off-topic lounge not in the film lounge. :whistling:

Once posted in the off-topic lounge it will become on-topic and should then be removed. :teehee:
This Off Topic Lounge belongs in Catch-22 :lol:

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Post by TheRedDeath » February 16th, 2013, 2:20 pm

I've been thinking about Evil Dead II since I watched it (last night) and I can't, for the life of me, understand why it's considered a great movie. Everything about it was bad imo...
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Post by mightysparks » February 16th, 2013, 2:21 pm

I prefer the first one. The 2nd and 3rd are just ok.
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Post by St. Gloede » February 16th, 2013, 3:34 pm

TheRedDeath on Feb 16 2013, 07:20:20 AM wrote:I've been thinking about Evil Dead II since I watched it (last night) and I can't, for the life of me, understand why it's considered a great movie. Everything about it was bad imo...
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Agreed. Though the first was even worse.

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Post by mightysparks » February 16th, 2013, 3:35 pm

The first is amazing! Boo to you!
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Post by sebby » February 16th, 2013, 3:48 pm

I don't think I've ever encountered as much disdain for Evil Dead II as I have here. Kind of surprising given that it's a film that's usually adored by both cinephiles and casual movie watchers. How can anyone not like a hilarious, amazingly atmospheric horror film featuring one of the most likeable and iconic main characters of the genre?

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Post by clemmetarey » February 16th, 2013, 3:49 pm

I really like the trilogy, even though I watched the last one first.

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Post by VincentPrice » February 16th, 2013, 4:11 pm

sebby on Feb 16 2013, 08:48:14 AM wrote:I don't think I've ever encountered as much disdain for Evil Dead II as I have here. Kind of surprising given that it's a film that's usually adored by both cinephiles and casual movie watchers. How can anyone not like a hilarious, amazingly atmospheric horror film featuring one of the most likeable and iconic main characters of the genre?
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Post by St. Gloede » February 16th, 2013, 4:26 pm

sebby on Feb 16 2013, 08:48:14 AM wrote:I don't think I've ever encountered as much disdain for Evil Dead II as I have here. Kind of surprising given that it's a film that's usually adored by both cinephiles and casual movie watchers. How can anyone not like a hilarious, amazingly atmospheric horror film featuring one of the most likeable and iconic main characters of the genre?
Spiteful comment: Atmospheric? Didn'tfind anything atmospheric about it. My disdain for it is primarily because it's terribly done and ugly trash. Stupid beyond belief. Over-the top acting and pathetic writing may appear funny to some, but this was just sad. Tree rape is not funny, nor scary, it's just dumb.

More respectable comment: Gore and camp humor really isn't for me.In order to succeed with the so bad it's good you just got to hit the right tone, and I don't think Evil Dead 1&2 hit that. The first one wasn't even supposed to be a comedy. I recall reading a trivia that Raimi was really surprised when the audience started to laugh and that this was the inspiration for Evil Dead 2. The oh look at how disgusting it is, or hey, isn't this absurd and creepy, really doesn't work for me when presented in this way - had it been beautifully shot and artistic maybe it would. I guess I can see why people with other sensibilities would like it however. But I just don't see much actual interesting content here. The story lines are weak to non-existent. Characters = pure nothingness - save Ash. All the acting is remarkably weak, and not in a fun way, just pure nothingness. In Evil Dead 2 there were more actual attempts at humor, so that worked slightly better for me. But that's it.

On the other hand I did enjoy Army of Darkness. It had a new and interesting concept and had a different tone and style.

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Post by mightysparks » February 16th, 2013, 4:40 pm

Man, The Evil Dead is too goddamn terrifying for me to find it funny.
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Post by bobbybrown » February 16th, 2013, 5:51 pm

An amusing (but incredibly arrogant) chart from 4chan: Film Accessibility Levels. It took a beating on reddit, but was left unnoticed here.

The punchline is "Film Noir generally falls here" in the middle of the chart, between Malick and Herzog.
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Post by St. Gloede » February 16th, 2013, 6:15 pm

bobbybrown on Feb 16 2013, 10:51:32 AM wrote:An amusing (but incredibly arrogant) chart from 4chan: Film Accessibility Levels. It took a beating on reddit, but was left unnoticed here.

The punchline is "Film Noir generally falls here" in the middle of the chart, between Malick and Herzog.
Been trying to think of an appropriate reaction. I think the best one is simply saying "Ok", make an odd and semi-off putting facial expression and walk away.

On a positive note, some of the lower names were unknown to me and I'll make some mental notes for them.

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Post by mightysparks » February 16th, 2013, 6:18 pm

Crinderman on Feb 16 2013, 11:15:34 AM wrote:
bobbybrown on Feb 16 2013, 10:51:32 AM wrote:An amusing (but incredibly arrogant) chart from 4chan: Film Accessibility Levels. It took a beating on reddit, but was left unnoticed here.

The punchline is "Film Noir generally falls here" in the middle of the chart, between Malick and Herzog.
Been trying to think of an appropriate reaction. I think the best one is simply saying "Ok", make an odd and semi-off putting facial expression and walk away.
I had the same response :lol:
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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » February 16th, 2013, 6:27 pm

mightysparks on Feb 16 2013, 11:18:04 AM wrote:
Crinderman on Feb 16 2013, 11:15:34 AM wrote:
bobbybrown on Feb 16 2013, 10:51:32 AM wrote:An amusing (but incredibly arrogant) chart from 4chan: Film Accessibility Levels. It took a beating on reddit, but was left unnoticed here.

The punchline is "Film Noir generally falls here" in the middle of the chart, between Malick and Herzog.
Been trying to think of an appropriate reaction. I think the best one is simply saying "Ok", make an odd and semi-off putting facial expression and walk away.
I had the same response :lol:
As a sliding scale of film accessibility, I don't see much that's controversial or debatable in the descriptions. The only debate would be to quibble over which names should be listed where.

Of course, accessibility is just one factor in a film, and it does not necessarily relate to quality. Hitchcock's films are extremely accessible, and yet he is as highly critically acclaimed as any director.
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Post by bobbybrown » February 16th, 2013, 6:55 pm

Crinderman on Feb 16 2013, 11:15:34 AM wrote:Been trying to think of an appropriate reaction. I think the best one is simply saying "Ok", make an odd and semi-off putting facial expression and walk away.
Come on, they have the word "plebeian" in their vocabulary, they'll stab you in the back the moment you turn away. :)

I guess I just have a soft spot for this kind of charts that tries to put many dozens of names / styles into an hierarchy. Sadly it's rare to find a wide-ranging one for movies.

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Post by Cippenham » February 16th, 2013, 7:00 pm

You may think The Wire or other tv shows are boring but in Norway they like to watch showing a crackling fireplace - for 12 hours. It will probably get on to a major list at some point.

Norway's NRK broadcasts 12-hour wood burning programme

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21482313

"People in Norway have a spiritual relationship with fire," Mr Moeklebust was quoted as telling Reuters.

"Fire is the reason we're here, if there was no firewood, we couldn't live in Norway, we'd freeze."
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Post by mightysparks » February 16th, 2013, 7:02 pm

Sounds like it has more character and plot development than The Wire, I'll take the wood burning :P
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Post by funkybusiness » February 16th, 2013, 9:14 pm

Can anyone give me an Ozu top 5? I've seen Tokyo Story, thought it was okay, but I'd like to give him another shot.

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Post by frbrown » February 16th, 2013, 9:23 pm

I don't think that Ozu made five great films, so I'll give you a top 2:
I Was Born, but...
There Was a Father
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Post by funkybusiness » February 16th, 2013, 9:27 pm

frbrown on Feb 16 2013, 02:23:53 PM wrote:I don't think that Ozu made five great films, so I'll give you a top 2:
I Was Born, but...
There Was a Father
Thanks, I'll give em a go. Does The Only Son have anything to do with There Was a Father, or did Criterion just group them together for a laugh?

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Post by allisoncm » February 16th, 2013, 9:29 pm

frbrown on Feb 16 2013, 02:23:53 PM wrote:I don't think that Ozu made five great films, so I'll give you a top 2:
I Was Born, but...
There Was a Father
I Was Born, But... is great. Be warned, though. The title is much longer in Japanese.

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Post by St. Gloede » February 16th, 2013, 9:30 pm

My top 5:

1. Tôkyô monogatari / Tokyo Story (1953) 10/10
2. Kohayagawa-ke no aki / The End of Summer (1961) 9/10
3. Akibiyori / Late Autumn (1960) 9/10
4. Banshun / Late Spring (1949) 9/10
5. Nagaya shinshiroku / The Record of a Tenement Gentleman (1947) 8.5/10

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Post by joachimt » February 16th, 2013, 9:39 pm

I've seen 11 Ozu's, 9 of them are favorites (which means 9/10 or 10/10).
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Post by frbrown » February 16th, 2013, 9:46 pm

funkybusiness on Feb 16 2013, 02:27:13 PM wrote:Does The Only Son have anything to do with There Was a Father, or did Criterion just group them together for a laugh?
No real connection, other than being made in roughly the same period of Ozu`s career. Of course, all of his films resemble each other.

There is a gap in quality between There Was a Father and The Only Son, but if I were forced to make an Ozu top 5 (out of 11 films seen), The Only Son would probably make it. Ozu`s style was a bit livelier back in the 30s.
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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » February 16th, 2013, 10:03 pm

frbrown on Feb 16 2013, 02:23:53 PM wrote:I don't think that Ozu made five great films
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If I were to make recommendations for someone who's just seen Tokyo Story and wants to venture further, I'd go with Floating Weeds and Late Spring.

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Post by allisoncm » February 16th, 2013, 10:05 pm

Free movies on HULU this weekend means I'm going to catch up on the Japanese titles, because there are a lot I haven't seen. Here were go...

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Post by funkybusiness » February 16th, 2013, 10:07 pm

Thanks for the lists/recommendations everyone. I guess I'll start with I Was Born, But..., which is one of those films I'm surprised anyone has checked, what with both it's original and english titles being what they are.

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Post by funkybusiness » February 16th, 2013, 10:08 pm

allisoncm on Feb 16 2013, 03:05:20 PM wrote:Free movies on HULU this weekend means I'm going to catch up on the Japanese titles, because there are a lot I haven't seen. Here were go...
It's kind of stunning how many japanese films they have on there. Pretty much every Kinoshita film, Shindo, Kobayashi, Oshima, the list goes on.

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Post by bal3x » February 16th, 2013, 10:19 pm

bobbybrown on Feb 16 2013, 10:51:32 AM wrote:An amusing (but incredibly arrogant) chart from 4chan: Film Accessibility Levels. It took a beating on reddit, but was left unnoticed here.

The punchline is "Film Noir generally falls here" in the middle of the chart, between Malick and Herzog.
Bullshit chart, they lumped Bay and Verhoeven together, even though I do like the placement of Lumet, which is a bit further from the "middlebrow" Affleck :D
But it's an interesting one, indeed many names I've never heard before, mostly at the bottom of course, hehe. Michael Snow - that was the Wavelength guy? "Challenger deep" indeed :D

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Post by Kowry » February 16th, 2013, 10:34 pm

Watched The Curse of the Cat People. Serious contender for the most misleading title ever. It wasn't even horror really, but a sweet fantasy film about childhood, really liked it.

So those of you that have seen at least several of films produced by Lewton, how would you rank them? Seen seven, Bedlam being the only official check I haven't watched, but I'm interested what of the non-horror films he produced would you recommend? Kas and frbrown have favorited Apache Drums, so I probably should watch that at some point.

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Post by St. Gloede » February 16th, 2013, 10:39 pm

frbrown on Feb 16 2013, 02:46:40 PM wrote:Of course, all of his films resemble each other.
Totally. He used so many elements from his gangster films in Tokyo Story. :thumbsup:

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Post by allisoncm » February 16th, 2013, 10:40 pm

funkybusiness on Feb 16 2013, 03:08:57 PM wrote:
allisoncm on Feb 16 2013, 03:05:20 PM wrote:Free movies on HULU this weekend means I'm going to catch up on the Japanese titles, because there are a lot I haven't seen. Here were go...
It's kind of stunning how many japanese films they have on there. Pretty much every Kinoshita film, Shindo, Kobayashi, Oshima, the list goes on.
I have seen a lot of Japanese films, but they are not my forte, so there are always more to see. I saw a really good one the other day called Twenty-Four Eyes, but that was rented from my library, not from Hulu. It is a Criterion title though, so if anyone wants to check it out, I'd love to know what they think. Next to A Woman Ascends the Stairs, it's my favorite Japanese film.

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