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Post by sebby » October 27th, 2018, 9:28 am

Criterion will move their library somewhere, and hopefully quickly.

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Post by monty » October 27th, 2018, 3:42 pm

This was rather good. Why didn't you alert me earlier, art?


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Post by weirdboy » October 28th, 2018, 7:06 am

kathulu wrote:
October 22nd, 2018, 9:54 pm
monty wrote:
August 2nd, 2015, 9:07 pm
Clearly what iCM is missing is a list of films where the protagonist is a saxophone player; jazz saxophonist biopics not included.
Allow me to kick off with

1. Angel (Neil Jordan, 1982)
2. New York, New York (1977)

More suggestions?
Hi everybody in the Film Lounge! This might be a wildly random question (and very sorry for butting in if you're in the midst of a flow - I just searched "saxophone" in the forum and it seemed like this has been a topic once upon a time). I thought if anyone can help me out, it's you guys. When I was a child/teenager, I had this book of films where I wrote down every single film I ever saw, and on one of the films, all it says is "Mark Hamill playing saxophone" and I swear it was him because I had the hugest crush on him when I was young. I must have missed the title of the movie when it was on TV. I've been Googling it every so often, to no avail. It's still a mystery to me. Does anyone know which movie this could be, if it even exists or am I just mad or did I dream it up? I can't remember anything else about the movie. I'd love to find it one day finally. I'm almost tempted to tweet Mark Hamill directly :lol:
I realize this is a very old thread, but two of the top of my head:

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Post by funkybusiness » October 28th, 2018, 7:51 am

Lost Highway, of course

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Post by Gershwin » October 29th, 2018, 8:41 pm

I just watched Fröken Julie. Maybe I'm just dumb, or drunk after only one beer, but why for fuck's sake
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would she want to kill herself? I don't get it. And if it's just because she's an independent woman, what seems to be Strindberg's main point, then why for even fucker's sake can people like the film? That would be such a 19th century point of view ...
But it's very well possible I misinterpret the film and/or Strindberg's presumed intentions with the play it's based on.
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Post by funkybusiness » October 29th, 2018, 10:43 pm

Gershwin wrote:
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I just watched Fröken Julie. Maybe I'm just dumb, or drunk after only one beer, but why for fuck's sake
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would she want to kill herself? I don't get it. And if it's just because she's an independent woman, what seems to be Strindberg's main point, then why for even fucker's sake can people like the film? That would be such a 19th century point of view ...
But it's very well possible I misinterpret the film and/or Strindberg's presumed intentions with the play it's based on.
I haven't seen Miss Julie but there is that trend in 19th century works
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 1st, 2018, 2:41 pm

Now that's something I didn't expect


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Post by Ivan0716 » November 4th, 2018, 1:13 am

So, is The Other Side of the Wind the best film within a film ever? I liked it more than the main part, it's like a Alain Robbe-Grillet film shot by Antonioni, wish there was more of it.

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Post by nimimerkillinen » November 4th, 2018, 5:59 am

monty wrote:
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This was rather good. Why didn't you alert me earlier, art?

this won last years icm film festival jury prize last year

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Post by blocho » November 4th, 2018, 6:53 am

I went to the Museum of the Moving Image in New York today for the first time. How the hell did I go so many years in this city without seeing this museum? Any place that includes both Etienne-Jules Marey and Vertigo was made for me.

The museum had three exhibits, one on Jim Henson (which didn't interest me much), sports video games (ditto), and their permanent exhibit which is about general cinema history. Its approach is to break up the various constituent elements of filmmaking and then present historical items and exhibits on each one. So, for example, the section on projection has a bunch of old projectors. Sweet!!!! Seriously, this was like cinema history fetishism.

In no way can I say it was comprehensive or even thorough. The part of the exhibit on film acting was just a bunch of studio portraits. Other parts were more fun. For the section on scoring, you could sit at a computer and choose various famous film clips and pair them with different scores. Still, the whole experience was highly enjoyable. I recommend it for movie freaks like me who live in or visit New York.

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Post by metaller » November 5th, 2018, 5:36 pm

I've been to New York as a tourist twice now (for about a week each time) and while it was on my list of possible things to do, I didn't make my way there yet. Other things were always higher on my list of priorities.
It doesn't help that it's there in Queens with not many other things around it that immediately spark my interest.
Perhaps the next time when I make the visit, but that might be years...

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Post by flaiky » November 5th, 2018, 9:20 pm

"BBC Culture polled 209 critics in 43 countries to find the best in world cinema – here’s the top 100."
The result: 100 films from 67 different directors, from 24 countries, and in 19 languages. French can claim to be the international language of acclaimed cinema: 27 of the highest-rated films were in French, followed by 12 in Mandarin, and 11 each in Italian and Japanese. At the other end of the scale, several languages were represented by just one film, such as Belarusian (Come and See), Romanian (4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days), and Wolof (Touki Bouki) ... One statistic we noted was that a quarter of the films on our list were East Asian: that is, 25 of them were made in Japan (11), China (6), Taiwan (4), Hong Kong (3) or South Korea (1). And the winning film, Seven Samurai, by the Japanese director Akira Kurosawa, was loved by critics everywhere – everywhere, that is, except for Japan. The six Japanese critics who voted didn’t go for a single Kurosawa film between them.

100. Landscape in the Mist (Theo Angelopoulos, 1988)
99. Ashes and Diamonds (Andrzej Wajda, 1958)
98. In the Heat of the Sun (Jiang Wen, 1994)
97. Taste of Cherry (Abbas Kiarostami, 1997)
96. Shoah (Claude Lanzmann, 1985)
95. Floating Clouds (Mikio Naruse, 1955)
94. Where Is the Friend's Home? (Abbas Kiarostami, 1987)
93. Raise the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou, 1991)
92. Scenes from a Marriage (Ingmar Bergman, 1973)
91. Rififi (Jules Dassin, 1955)
90. Hiroshima Mon Amour (Alain Resnais, 1959)
89. Wild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
88. The Story of the Last Chrysanthemum (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1939)
87. The Nights of Cabiria (Federico Fellini, 1957)
86. La Jetée (Chris Marker, 1962)
85. Umberto D (Vittorio de Sica, 1952)
84. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Luis Buñuel, 1972)
83. La Strada (Federico Fellini, 1954)
82. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
81. Celine and Julie go Boating (Jacques Rivette, 1974)
80. The Young and the Damned (Luis Buñuel, 1950)
79. Ran (Akira Kurosawa, 1985)
78. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
77. The Conformist (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1970)
76. Y Tu Mamá También (Alfonso Cuarón, 2001)
75. Belle de Jour (Luis Buñuel, 1967)
74. Pierrot Le Fou (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)
73. Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
72. Ikiru (Akira Kurosawa, 1952)
71. Happy Together (Wong Kar-wai, 1997)
70. L’Eclisse (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1962)
69. Amour (Michael Haneke, 2012)
68. Ugetsu (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1953)
67. The Exterminating Angel (Luis Buñuel, 1962)
66. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1973)
65. Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
64. Three Colours: Blue (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1993)
63. Spring in a Small Town (Fei Mu, 1948)
62. Touki Bouki (Djibril Diop Mambéty, 1973)
61. Sansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1954)
60. Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard, 1963)
59. Come and See (Elem Klimov, 1985)
58. The Earrings of Madame de… (Max Ophüls, 1953)
57. Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1972)
56. Chungking Express (Wong Kar-wai, 1994)
55. Jules and Jim (François Truffaut, 1962)
54. Eat Drink Man Woman (Ang Lee, 1994)
53. Late Spring (Yasujirô Ozu, 1949)
52. Au Hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966)
51. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (Jacques Demy, 1964)
50. L’Atalante (Jean Vigo, 1934)
49. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
48. Viridiana (Luis Buñuel, 1961)
47. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
46. Children of Paradise (Marcel Carné, 1945)
45. L’Avventura (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1960)
44. Cleo from 5 to 7 (Agnès Varda, 1962)
43. Beau Travail (Claire Denis, 1999)
42. City of God (Fernando Meirelles, Kátia Lund, 2002)
41. To Live (Zhang Yimou, 1994)
40. Andrei Rublev (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1966)
39. Close-Up (Abbas Kiarostami, 1990)
38. A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang, 1991)
37. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
36. La Grande Illusion (Jean Renoir, 1937)
35. The Leopard (Luchino Visconti, 1963)
34. Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders, 1987)
33. Playtime (Jacques Tati, 1967)
32. All About My Mother (Pedro Almodóvar, 1999)
31. The Lives of Others (Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006)
30. The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
29. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
28. Fanny and Alexander (Ingmar Bergman, 1982)
27. The Spirit of the Beehive (Victor Erice, 1973)
26. Cinema Paradiso (Giuseppe Tornatore, 1988)
25. Yi Yi (Edward Yang, 2000)
24. Battleship Potemkin (Sergei M Eisenstein, 1925)
23. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1928)
22. Pan’s Labyrinth (Guillermo del Toro, 2006)
21. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
20. The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1974)
19. The Battle of Algiers (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1966)
18. A City of Sadness (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1989)
17. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Werner Herzog, 1972)
16. Metropolis (Fritz Lang, 1927)
15. Pather Panchali (Satyajit Ray, 1955)
14. Jeanne Dielman, 23 Commerce Quay, 1080 Brussels (Chantal Akerman, 1975)
13. M (Fritz Lang, 1931)
12. Farewell My Concubine (Chen Kaige, 1993)
11. Breathless (Jean-Luc Godard, 1960)
10. La Dolce Vita (Federico Fellini, 1960)
9. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
8. The 400 Blows (François Truffaut, 1959)
7. 8 1/2 (Federico Fellini, 1963)
6. Persona (Ingmar Bergman, 1966)
5. The Rules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939)
4. Rashomon (Akira Kurosawa, 1950)
3. Tokyo Story (Yasujirô Ozu, 1953)
2. Bicycle Thieves (Vittorio de Sica, 1948)
1. Seven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)
Nothing hugely surprising apart from some of the placements. I'm thrilled to see Farewell My Concubine so high. Great performance from Chinese language films.

Edit: I see Gershwin's been on the ball with an ICM list. I've got 4 unseen: Jeanne Dielman, Eat Drink Man Woman, In the Heat of the Sun (actually this one is relatively random), and Landscapes in the Mist.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 5th, 2018, 9:39 pm

I have seen 95/100 :)
The five unseen are #48 Viridiana, #62 Touki Bouki, #94 Khane-ye doust kodjast?, #95 Ukigumo and #97 Ta'm e guilass

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Post by outdoorcats » November 5th, 2018, 10:43 pm

Surprised that Vertigo didn't even place. Interesting list! I've only seen 86. :(

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Post by flaiky » November 5th, 2018, 11:06 pm

outdoorcats wrote:
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Surprised that Vertigo didn't even place. Interesting list! I've only seen 86. :(
Ah sorry, the title I pasted didn't actually include the title of the poll, "BBC Culture's 100 greatest foreign-language films". They justify this with "From the perspective of an English-language website, that’s an accurate description – but equally, as an internationally-focused one, we’re happy to acknowledge that, depending on who you are, many of these films won’t be in a language that’s foreign to you.".
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Post by outdoorcats » November 5th, 2018, 11:12 pm

Still it would have been more obvious had I been paying closer attention to the introductory text. :lol: I'm tired, what can I say...

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Post by mightysparks » November 5th, 2018, 11:49 pm

Eat Drink Man Woman is the only one I haven’t seen.. and hadn’t heard of before.
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Post by weirdboy » November 6th, 2018, 4:23 am

I haven't checked Eat Drink Man Woman, although I am actually fairly certain I saw it around the time of its theatrical release. Those Chinese films on ICM were all missing AKAs previously, and I was certainly not up to doing reverse lookups for every movie I'd seen missing its English title.


It wouldn't hurt to watch it again, anyway.

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Post by Knaldskalle » November 6th, 2018, 5:29 am

metaller wrote:
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I've been to New York as a tourist twice now (for about a week each time) and while it was on my list of possible things to do, I didn't make my way there yet. Other things were always higher on my list of priorities.
It doesn't help that it's there in Queens with not many other things around it that immediately spark my interest.
Perhaps the next time when I make the visit, but that might be years...
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 10th, 2018, 7:41 pm

Just finished the film La casa lobo [The Wolf House] and the animation is up there with Svankmajer's work. Here's the trailer because screenshots will not do it justice.


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Post by max-scl » November 10th, 2018, 7:58 pm

It looks great, hopefully I can watch it in cinemas soon.

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Post by outdoorcats » November 10th, 2018, 8:41 pm

Thanks for the nightmares, Apathy. But no seriously, that looks amazing.

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Post by Gershwin » November 10th, 2018, 8:52 pm

It's on MUBI here. So I should watch it?
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 10th, 2018, 8:55 pm

Gershwin wrote:
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It's on MUBI here. So I should watch it?
If you don't mind surrealism, then sure. It can be quite exhausting though even with its short length. The animation can be a lot to take in.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 12th, 2018, 3:44 pm

Watched this last night https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/les+orgueilleux/

Not as good as Such a Pretty Little Beach, but still quite an underrated gem.

I did some research into the film, and I never thought I would see this combination. It blew my mind:

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Post by rnilsson19 » November 12th, 2018, 4:33 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
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Watched this last night https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/les+orgueilleux/

Not as good as Such a Pretty Little Beach, but still quite an underrated gem.

I did some research into the film, and I never thought I would see this combination. It blew my mind:

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Yeah, decent film with a great locale and star duo but a little too heavy-handed and melodramatic in the end for me to consider it top-notch or in the same league as Such a Pretty Little Beach.

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Post by flaiky » November 15th, 2018, 10:20 pm

I just noticed that Bohemian Rhapsody has 8.4 on IMDB and is in the top 250 with nearly 100k votes. :huh:

I had no idea it was so popular with the public.
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Post by funkybusiness » November 15th, 2018, 10:29 pm

there have been nonstop advertisements here in the US and just about every show on a Fox network has had to horseshoe Queen songs into their broadcasts. The World Series broadcast was almost unwatchable and I like baseball.

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Post by mightysparks » November 16th, 2018, 12:21 am

I didn’t even realize it was already made lol. I saw something the other day about Rami Malek being cast and I was like wtf that dude sucks.
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Post by OldAle1 » November 16th, 2018, 1:52 am

Really looks like a generic bio-pic to me and, though I like Queen a lot, unless I hear something great about it from someone I trust, doubt I'll see it in the cinema despite the dearth of interesting stuff at the moment.

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Post by dirty_score » November 16th, 2018, 11:44 am

According to critics, it IS a pretty standard by the numbers biopic that only covers the good stuff and the Live Aid concert makes up for it.

Also, the movie is popular because in this day and age of mediocrity music and lacking of real talent, people 'forgot' that used to be a great band called Queen, so I guess they are now (re)discovering it ?!?

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Post by outdoorcats » November 16th, 2018, 2:56 pm

"Also, the movie is popular because in this day and age of mediocrity music and lacking of real talent--"

lol

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Post by clemmetarey » November 16th, 2018, 3:55 pm

outdoorcats wrote:
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"Also, the movie is popular because in this day and age of mediocrity music and lacking of real talent--"

lol
I do not agree with dirty-score either, and I have no interest in watching the film since I don't like Queen, but your profile picture made your reaction even better :lol:

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 16th, 2018, 4:06 pm

outdoorcats wrote:
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"Also, the movie is popular because in this day and age of mediocrity music and lacking of real talent--"

lol
Had to lol at this too. I think it's one of those cases where people just like the music they grew up with and never evolved their taste.

You could argue that now is easily the best time for music of all genres all thanks to the internet. It's a lot easier for musicians to create their work, and no longer need stuff like fancy recording studios and record deals to make them.

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Post by OldAle1 » November 16th, 2018, 4:18 pm

My dad would say there's been no good music since Bing Crosby and Perry Como (Frank Sinatra was way too stylized for him, plus he was a gangster like all Italians), and no good classical music since the death of Tchaikovsky - before his parents were born. I'm sure we all know people like that, just as we all know people who don't appreciate anything made before 2000/1980/1960, etc. Both attitudes are incredibly tiresome and solipsistic, and it's pretty hard to take anybody with such severe, narrow limits seriously if you don't have a very similar mindset yourself.

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Post by Gershwin » November 16th, 2018, 6:20 pm

I don’t think I’m the type to say things like “they don’t make good music anymore”, but I do have to admit I almost only play music from the 70s and 80s (and jazz and classical music from earlier days). I’m often wondering what makes my taste skewed towards those eras, because it’s not the music I grew up with (only religious music and some classical music).
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Post by Gershwin » November 16th, 2018, 7:56 pm

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is now available! :guns:
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Post by mightysparks » November 16th, 2018, 9:45 pm

I often use decades to categorize my tastes and diss (popular) new music but I probably listen to more new music than older stuff these days. I just don’t listen to the radio or read music news etc. but yea I don’t listen to the music I grew up with either, my parents only listened to mainstream radio.

Idk about the younger kids, but when I was a teen a lot of people my age liked Queen, even if they mostly only listened to new stuff. I think they mostly knew their big hits but I never came across someone who didn’t know who they were.
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 16th, 2018, 10:45 pm

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The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is now available! :guns:
Loved it. And wow I watched a western before Kas did

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 17th, 2018, 9:37 pm

Any recommendations for the year 1952? Gotta find 5 more favourites. Here's what I've seen so far: https://rateyourmusic.com/film_collecti ... ear/1952/1 and here's what's on my to-watch list:
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