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dirty_score wrote: April 19th, 2021, 4:50 pm Leo Carax's musical will open Cannes:

Looks excellent!
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Ooh, I've been anticipating "Annette" for ages.
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Not really impressed by that trailer but yeah Cannes/Carax/Cotillard/Driver, we have been missing that kind of hype for too long.
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Given how much I love Carax AND musicals, I can't help but be excited - and hope that somehow I will have an opportunity to see this on a big screen with a crowd - but I have to echo hurlu, not that excited by the trailer. I guess it tells you who's involved and that it's a musical, and that's enough, but it doesn't communicate anything particularly special cinematically.
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Always thought Simon Helberg would be the lead actor in this, not a supporting actor, but great news anyway!
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 6:16 am https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/ ... de7ac3d49c

$195 for 58 minutes????
Haha, that Mach Hommy pricing model is catching on...
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 6:16 am https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/ ... de7ac3d49c

$195 for 58 minutes????
That's an Institutional Use license. Fairly normal pricing for that, actually. It's intended for libraries and other places that might show the movie to a (nonpaying) audience.

Some years ago I contacted the National Center for Jewish Film to inquire about buying a DVD copy of "Der Prozeß - Eine Darstellung des Majdanek-Verfahrens in Düsseldorf (1984)" by Eberhard Fechner (German list). They had it on their website for around $350 with an institutional license only. They wrote me back and gave me an offer of $50 with a specific home use license only. I bought it. Not cheap, but it wasn't available anywhere online and all the libraries that had it didn't allow it to be checked out (so no interlibrary loan either).

Of course, I still haven't gotten around to actually watching the damn thing but I have it on my shelves.
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Knaldskalle wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 8:36 pm Of course, I still haven't gotten around to actually watching the damn thing but I have it on my shelves.
:lol:


You could have just cut out the middle man and put the money on your shelf instead.
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weirdboy wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 12:23 am
Knaldskalle wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 8:36 pm Of course, I still haven't gotten around to actually watching the damn thing but I have it on my shelves.
:lol:


You could have just cut out the middle man and put the money on your shelf instead.
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 6:16 am https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/ ... de7ac3d49c

$195 for 58 minutes????
Institutional price, as someone already said.

You can stream it for €2.50 or download it for €4 here as a private person:
https://dafilms.com/film/7656-disorder
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If, like me, you're completely out of touch with the latest horror releases I made a list of the 2020 films that have (so far) received at least one vote for TSZDT (ranked by # lists): https://www.imdb.com/list/ls088838778/. Only seen 8 and had about 10 others watchlisted already..

And here's 2019 as well: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls088838751/
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mightysparks wrote: April 24th, 2021, 8:50 am If, like me, you're completely out of touch with the latest horror releases I made a list of the 2020 films that have (so far) received at least one vote for TSZDT (ranked by # lists): https://www.imdb.com/list/ls088838778/.
Very handy! 28/60 for me.

Not sure how a film like Black Bear got on there though ...
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MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell's 'Absolute Proof' won the Razzies
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dirty_score wrote: April 24th, 2021, 11:05 am MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell's 'Absolute Proof' won the Razzies
As if I didn't already have many reasons to watch it. Cool.
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Random SCTV bits keep showing up on my YouTubes, here's a great one that I hadn't seen



The Dick Cavett impression in particular is just amazing. Rick Moranis really could do impressions - his Woody is good also.
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A golden globe nominated performance won a Razzie?
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Mothravka wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 4:45 am
Ebbywebby wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 6:16 am https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/ ... de7ac3d49c

$195 for 58 minutes????
Institutional price, as someone already said.

You can stream it for €2.50 or download it for €4 here as a private person:
https://dafilms.com/film/7656-disorder
Because of this conversation, I made a note of this link, because I thought we were talking about a previously unavailable rarity here. Seems I already watched it four years ago......
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So, the Oscars are tonight. I still haven't seen any of them except for The Trial of the Chicago 7. Anything I should prioritize (not necessarily Best Picture nominees)?

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outdoorcats wrote: April 25th, 2021, 5:42 pm So, the Oscars are tonight. I still haven't seen any of them except for The Trial of the Chicago 7. Anything I should prioritize (not necessarily Best Picture nominees)?
I watched 6 of the BP noms over the last few days, couldn't help myself - this is the first year in about 5 that I won't have seen all of them, in the cinema, before the awards. Sad.

But anyway unless the two unseen ones are GREAT, this is one of the weaker years IMO - keeping in mind that I probably like Oscar-bait more than most here. I'm hoping to write up something about all of these today or tomorrow but for now I'll just give a little ranking -

NOT NECESSARILY MASTERPIECES BUT DEFINITELY WORTHY OF A NOMINATION ANYWAY
1. Nomadland
1. Promising Young Woman

Can't really decide between these two very different films at the moment.

GOOD FILM THAT IS PROBABLY AT LEAST AVERAGE FOR NOMINEES

3. Judas and the Black Messiah

ABOVE AVERAGE MOVIES, BUT NOT REALLY AWARDS-CALIBER

4. The Trial of the Chicago 7
5. Minari

OK MOVIE WITH LOTS OF PROBLEMS, MAYBE WORTH SEEING BUT JUST BARELY

6. Mank

In a "normal" year, if I had 60-70 films seen from 2020 (I have 22 at the moment), only the top 2 would have a significant likelihood of being in my top 20 if making a list in April, with #3 borderline.
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outdoorcats wrote: April 25th, 2021, 5:42 pm So, the Oscars are tonight. I still haven't seen any of them except for The Trial of the Chicago 7. Anything I should prioritize (not necessarily Best Picture nominees)?
The only one I liked a lot is Mank

I liked moderately: Better Days, Tenet, Another Round, Soul, Nomadland, WolfWalkers, Minari, One Night in Miami

I didn't really care for: The Father, The Trial of Chicago 7, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom,

I disliked: Borat 2, Promising Young Woman, Da 5 Bloods
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I’ve only seen half of the eight Best Pic nominees. My ranking of them:

Good, but no masterpieces:
1. Promising Young Woman
2. Minari

Decent...but disappointing/I don’t get the hype:
3. Nomadland


Aaron Sorkin-y to a fault/let someone else direct his scripts/nothing special:
4. Trial of the Chicago 7


I was a bit disappointed with Nomadland, which on paper seems like a film that’s right up my alley. I had a similar reaction to Zhao’s prior film The Rider, too. Something was missing for me. I’m interested in seeing Sound of Metal, Mank and Judas and the Black Messiah...not much interest in The Father.
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Just watched Da 5 Bloods. Didn't realize it was a best pic nom. I hope it doesn't win. The combination of a simple story about greed totally doesn't match with the forced political message about Afro-Americans. If you try to ignore that, there's some mildly entertaining, but bit slow, adventure movie about a few old pals. 6/10
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1. Sound of Metal
2. The Father
3. Nomadland
4. Minari
5. Promising Young Woman
6. The Trial of the Chicago 7

Not seen:
- Mank
- Judas and the Black Messiah
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01) Promising Young Woman - 5/5
02) Minari - 5/5

03) The Father - 4.5/5

04) Mank - 4/5
05) Nomadland - 4/5
06) Judas and the Black Messiah - 4/5

07) The Trial of the Chicago 7 - 2.5/5

08) Sound of Metal - 2/5
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joachimt wrote: April 25th, 2021, 7:54 pm Just watched Da 5 Bloods. Didn't realize it was a best pic nom.
You must be mixing up something there, because it isn't :) Only nominated for Best Original Score. Some people call that a snub and demand that Lee at least should have gotten the nomination for directing. What I usually notice is how audiences enjoy it way less than critics.
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Best Picture
1. Nomadland 7/10
2. Sound of Metal 7/10
3. Mank 7/10
4. The Trial of the Chicago 7 7/10
5. Promising Young Woman 6/10
6. Judas and the Black Messiah 6/10
7. Minari 5/10
8. The Father 5/10

Best International Feature Film
1. Colectiv 8/10
2. Druk 8/10
3. Quo vadis, Aida? 5/10
4. The Man Who Sold His Skin 5/10
5. Better Days 4/10

Best Documentary Feature
1. Colectiv 8/10
2. My Octopus Teacher 8/10
3. Crip Camp 8/10
4. El Agente Topo 7/10
5. Time 6/10
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I've only seen a handful of the films, and I feel like I'm rooting AGAINST nominees rather than for them.

No on "Promising Young Woman" for Best Director and Original Screenplay....no on "Borat" for Adapted Screenplay and Supporting Actress. And I'm kinda rooting against the "Sound of Metal" lead, because I can't swallow that he's an actor in the league of Anthony Hopkins and Gary Oldman.

If I had seen "Nomadland" already, perhaps I would be cheering it.
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Best Documentary Feature

01) Time - 4.5/5
02) Collective - 4/5
03) Crip Camp - 3.5/5
04) The Mole Agent - 3.5/5
05) My Octopus Teacher - 2.5/5

Best International Film

01) Another Round - 4/5
02) Quo Vadis, Aida? - 4/5
03) Collective - 4/5
04) The Man Who Sold His Skin - 3/5
05) Better Days - 2/5
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:50 pm And I'm kinda rooting against the "Sound of Metal" lead, because I can't swallow that he's an actor in the league of Anthony Hopkins and Gary Oldman.
Don't worry, that ship has sailed already since Riz Ahmed has the detriment of being alive. What a rookie!
(I'm still crossing fingers for Hopkins ..)

Ebbywebby wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:50 pm "Borat" for Adapted Screenplay and Supporting Actress.
That Maria Bakalova nomination still feels like a surreal prank.
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Torgo wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:58 pm
Ebbywebby wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:50 pm And I'm kinda rooting against the "Sound of Metal" lead, because I can't swallow that he's an actor in the league of Anthony Hopkins and Gary Oldman.
Don't worry, that ship has sailed already since Riz Ahmed has the detriment of being alive. What a rookie!
I haven't seen "Ma Rainey" so maybe Boseman IS really good in it, but I hope he won't win just because he's not there to accept the award. After all, I figure LOTS of people won't be there to accept their awards. ;)
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Ebbywebby wrote: April 25th, 2021, 9:03 pm
Torgo wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:58 pm
Ebbywebby wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:50 pm And I'm kinda rooting against the "Sound of Metal" lead, because I can't swallow that he's an actor in the league of Anthony Hopkins and Gary Oldman.
Don't worry, that ship has sailed already since Riz Ahmed has the detriment of being alive. What a rookie!
I haven't seen "Ma Rainey" so maybe Boseman IS really good in it, but I hope he won't win just because he's not there to accept the award. After all, I figure LOTS of people won't be there to accept their awards. ;)
He's pretty decent, but not worthy of a win, imo. I'd liken it to Joaquin Phoenix last year. Of the five nominees, I rank Boseman last, but he's certainly not bad or anything.
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Of BP nominees, I've seen just Mank, Sound of Metal & Trial of Chicago 7. Latter two are solid 7s, Mank was a disappointment, even for someone who's into classic Hollywood, it just didn't quite work. Hoping I'll be able to catch likes of Minari, Nomadland, Promising Young Woman at cinema once they reopen (next month, hopefully)

Seen 3/5 of the Docs and very much rooting for the excellent Collective to win [also nominated in International though I haven't seen any of the competition there]. Mole Agent grated - felt like it was either staged or exploitative or both.
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GruesomeTwosome wrote: April 25th, 2021, 7:33 pm let someone else direct his scripts
Say it for the back!

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Only film I'm rooting for is Better Days in the international category. Would be a sweet triple win for Asian cinema.
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Onderhond wrote: April 25th, 2021, 9:30 pm Only film I'm rooting for is Better Days in the international category. Would be a sweet triple win for Asian cinema.
Was going to watch either that or Druk this afternoon so I'd have at least one of the international noms, but my brother picked that time to call so no dice. Haven't heard enough overall to care too much though I did see the previous feature and a short from Karouther Ben-Hania who directed The Man Who Sold His Skin and liked them both a lot, so I guess I'm rooting for her, maybe - or is it that I'm rooting for Tunisia. Go...Tunisia.
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Torgo wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:26 pm
joachimt wrote: April 25th, 2021, 7:54 pm Just watched Da 5 Bloods. Didn't realize it was a best pic nom.
You must be mixing up something there, because it isn't :) Only nominated for Best Original Score. Some people call that a snub and demand that Lee at least should have gotten the nomination for directing. What I usually notice is how audiences enjoy it way less than critics.
That audience score is almost guaranteed to be the result of trolls and racists spamming the score and down-voting the film until it became rotten - due only to the fact that the film is directed by/features a predominantly black ensemble cast, as well as featuring subject matter relating to current racial issues in America. The critics score is a much stronger indicator of the film's quality.
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Last minute, personal rankings of this year’s Best Picture nominees at this much belated awards show. I've been fortunate enough to have seen all but one - Trial - in theaters over the course of the last couple of weeks/months (fully vaccinated btw)

Sound of Metal - 10
Nomadland
The Father
Minari - 9
Judas and the Black Messiah
Mank
Trial of the Chicago 7 - 8
Promising Young Woman

Despite a handful of notable exclusions (Never Rarely Sometimes Always and Da 5 Bloods, for example), this is one of the better lineups of recent years imo. Liked them all and there’s nothing here that’s too embarrassing or undeserving, for once. :P
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Good_Will_Harding wrote: April 25th, 2021, 11:54 pm Last minute, personal rankings of this year’s Best Picture nominees at this much belated awards show. I've been fortunate enough to have seen all but one - Trial - in theaters over the course of the last couple of weeks/months (fully vaccinated btw)

Sound of Metal - 10
Nomadland
The Father
Minari - 9
Judas and the Black Messiah
Mank
Trial of the Chicago 7 - 8
Promising Young Woman

Despite a handful of notable exclusions (Never Rarely Sometimes Always and Da 5 Bloods, for example), this is one of the better lineups of recent years imo. Liked them all and there’s nothing here that’s too embarrassing or undeserving, for once. :P
I'm glad to see someone more enthusiastic than me (not that I was that enthusiastic). And good on you for making the effort to go out and see them properly, something I didn't do - I also haven't been vaccinated yet (this week) and I think I'd have had to drive a ways to see most of them - none of them have played here in the past couple of weeks and I suspect a lot of them just were around for a week(end, since the local AMCs were just Fri-Sun for quite a while). Eh, in some ways it's good to go without the big screen for a while - maybe I'll appreciate it all the more when I finally start going again.
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