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Post by Ebbywebby » February 16th, 2019, 8:04 pm

Knaldskalle wrote:
February 16th, 2019, 6:29 pm
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I don't have much use for Haneke's finger-wagging moralizing - but the sense of helplessness Funny Games evokes still makes it one of the most viscerally effective horror films I've ever seen. The violence in the movie feels much more impactful and "real" (for lack of a better word) than is usually the case in the genre.

In fact, the film is so effective that I find the experience of watching it deeply unpleasant. I doubt I'll feel the need to own it on Blu-ray.
Well put, but my problem is more that Haneke cheats. In the movie the two psychos implicate the audience in the "games" and if you accept that premise you, as a viewer, basically have two choices: You can either stop watching or continue watching. The implied consequence being that you somehow become complicit in the violence if you continue watching - and that you don't if you stop. However, if you stop watching, do you somehow "extricate" yourself from what happens in the movie? Of course not, because what happens in the movie was predetermined at the script level before a single image was shot and was filmed before an audience ever had the choice of participating or not. In other words, it's a trap that Haneke sets up - if you accept the premise that watching is somehow becoming complicit in the crimes put on display. But that's like blaming people who watch the evening news for the violence that's being reported in those news. One does not cause the other and you can't do a damn thing about something that has already happened. That's the biggest problem I have with Funny Games, it cheats. I can live with the rest, viscerally repulsive as it is, but I refuse to accept that I as a viewer am somehow complicit in what Haneke decided to put in a movie.
I've seen the remake a lot more recently than the original...did the "psychos" talk to the camera in the original too?

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » February 16th, 2019, 8:07 pm

Ebbywebby wrote:
February 16th, 2019, 8:04 pm
Knaldskalle wrote:
February 16th, 2019, 6:29 pm
Timec wrote:
February 16th, 2019, 4:24 am
I don't have much use for Haneke's finger-wagging moralizing - but the sense of helplessness Funny Games evokes still makes it one of the most viscerally effective horror films I've ever seen. The violence in the movie feels much more impactful and "real" (for lack of a better word) than is usually the case in the genre.

In fact, the film is so effective that I find the experience of watching it deeply unpleasant. I doubt I'll feel the need to own it on Blu-ray.
Well put, but my problem is more that Haneke cheats. In the movie the two psychos implicate the audience in the "games" and if you accept that premise you, as a viewer, basically have two choices: You can either stop watching or continue watching. The implied consequence being that you somehow become complicit in the violence if you continue watching - and that you don't if you stop. However, if you stop watching, do you somehow "extricate" yourself from what happens in the movie? Of course not, because what happens in the movie was predetermined at the script level before a single image was shot and was filmed before an audience ever had the choice of participating or not. In other words, it's a trap that Haneke sets up - if you accept the premise that watching is somehow becoming complicit in the crimes put on display. But that's like blaming people who watch the evening news for the violence that's being reported in those news. One does not cause the other and you can't do a damn thing about something that has already happened. That's the biggest problem I have with Funny Games, it cheats. I can live with the rest, viscerally repulsive as it is, but I refuse to accept that I as a viewer am somehow complicit in what Haneke decided to put in a movie.
I've seen the remake a lot more recently than the original...did the "psychos" talk to the camera in the original too?
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Post by GruesomeTwosome » March 15th, 2019, 7:51 pm

Criterion’s June releases announced:

Swing Time (George Stevens)
La vie de Jesus (Bruno Dumont)
L’humanite (Bruno Dumont)
Hedwig and the Angry Inch (John Cameron Mitchell)
War and Peace (Sergei Bondarchuk)

And they’re releasing the Bergman trilogy of Through a Glass Darkly, Winter Light and The Silence as its own thing, though they were all in that big Bergman box put out last year.
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Post by weirdboy » March 29th, 2019, 12:38 am

I believe I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I'm quite excited by the War and Peace update and definitely will be picking that one up. I rather like my existing non-criterion releases of Hedwig and Swing Time so I suppose I'll have to wait and see what people think of the extra content for those.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » April 16th, 2019, 4:54 pm

Criterion announced their next batch of releases yesterday (July titles): https://www.criterion.com/shop/browse?p ... oming-soon


Europa Europa (1990, Agnieszka Holland)
Klute (1971, Alan J. Pakula)
The Baker's Wife (1938, Marcel Pagnol)
1984 (1984, Michael Radford)
An upgrade of Do the Right Thing (1989, Spike Lee)
An upgrade of Fassbinder's BRD trilogy - The Marriage of Maria Braun, Veronika Voss and Lola
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Post by funkybusiness » April 16th, 2019, 10:44 pm

and today they corrected their horrendous mistake of giving spine #984 to Europa Europa and not...ya know, 1984.

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Post by weirdboy » April 17th, 2019, 2:04 am

Glad to see La femme du boulanger get a Criterion release!

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Post by Knaldskalle » April 17th, 2019, 3:10 am

I'm kinda glad I didn't get around to getting the Twilight Time release of 1984...
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Post by brokenface » April 17th, 2019, 7:01 am

Klute, nice!

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Post by Nathan Treadway » April 17th, 2019, 7:05 am

I've actually seen all of them this time around. Nothing too exciting for me. I'm still waiting for that promised Kiarostami set.

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Post by funkybusiness » April 17th, 2019, 7:40 am

they pushed it back because they got the rights to a few more of Kiarostami's films. Looking like an early 2020 release now.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » April 17th, 2019, 3:43 pm

funkybusiness wrote:
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they pushed it back because they got the rights to a few more of Kiarostami's films. Looking like an early 2020 release now.
If that's the case, I don't mind waiting. :) Actually, didn't they acquire the rights to his entire catalog?

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Post by funkybusiness » April 17th, 2019, 10:41 pm

no one is sure if they have everything, as Cohen seems to have the rights to The Wind Will Carry Us. or at least, their BD is still in print. and I think Shirin might be with someone else? not positive. but CC definitely got the early '00s films, ABC Africa thru 10 on Ten, which they were lacking before.

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Post by Knaldskalle » April 18th, 2019, 4:11 am

Speaking of Cohen and BD's, I was quite excited to learn that they're releasing the "Buster Keaton Collection, vol. 1: The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr." next month. It's from the recent-ish 4K scans that Eureka MoC also released in a limited edition box set. I snoozed on it and it sold out, so this is my chance at getting my grubby little fingers on some feature-length Keaton (I have the MoC box set of his shorts).
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Post by insomnius » April 19th, 2019, 1:17 pm

Easter sale at Arrow until Apr 24. You need to be logged in to see the lower prices.

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Post by Ivan0716 » April 20th, 2019, 4:13 pm

Can anyone help me find ANY screenshots/trailers for the recently released Narcissus and Psyche Blu-ray?

EDIT: Oh fuck it I'm ordering it, it's probably the best looking film I've ever seen anyway, any improvement over existing prints is a win.

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Post by Ivan0716 » April 21st, 2019, 2:19 pm

Received it already(thanks Amazon Prime), only skimmed through the first part, but it's a hell of an upgrade over the DVD(/Rip) out there, the colours are much sharper and the contrast has been improved CONSIDERABLY, especially in the darker scenes(you can actually see faces now). The colours still feel a bit washed out at times, but it might just be unrealistic expectation on my part - I've never seen the film theatrically so I don't know how it's really supposed to look. All in all a pretty damn good release for a film no one would buy.

Like I said earlier this is one of the most visually impressive films out there, so If anyone is interested in watching the film for the first time it's well worth tracking down the Blu-ray, €15 for a 4.5h film is pretty good value for money however you slice it.

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Post by Ivan0716 » May 2nd, 2019, 6:30 pm

Ok, so I went ahead and bought the new Arrow release of Aleksey German's Khrustalyov, My Car! It comes with a fuck ton of extras, I haven't even seen what's on the disc yet but I did read the two written essays before watching the film(my second viewing). The first essay written by Gianna D'Emilio provides some neat background information about German's vision, his troubled career, and some very insightful stuff about the setting and the events that play important roles in the film. It also points out some of the finer details that would have gone over the head of most viewers. For example, who knew that umbrellas with automatic opening were not manufactured in Russia at that time, and that German would employ that information as a way of hinting at the nationality of the umbrella's owner? Trump haters might be interested to know that the final pages of the essay suggests a renewed relevance of the film coinciding with the current rise of fascism/totalitarianism in the West - even drawing direct comparisons between Trump's America and the Stalinist Russia as portrayed in the film! :satstunned:

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Post by funkybusiness » May 15th, 2019, 8:53 pm

Criterion, August 2019:

#301: An Angel at My Table (1990) upgrade
#457: Magnificent Obsession (1954) upgrade
#988: The Inland Sea (1991)
#989: The Flavor of Green Tea over Rice (1952)
#991: The Koker Trilogy
- #990: Where is the Friend's House? (1987)
- #991: And Life Goes On (1992)
- #992: Through the Olive Trees (1994)

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Post by funkybusiness » May 15th, 2019, 8:55 pm

I'd not heard of The Inland Sea but I'm no Donald Richie devotee. On the other hand, it's got a Toru Takemitsu score so it can't be that bad. For the first time in a long time, they've got a genuinely great cover design with The Koker Trilogy. always in for more Sirk. The Ozu release will also contain What Did the Lady Forget? (1937).

#1000 in September or October?

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » May 15th, 2019, 9:35 pm

So finally the Koker trilogy is released. :banana: The cover design reminds me of that of Dekalog. I love the cover for the Ozu (l)

Are there any rumors or indications about what #1000 will be?

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Post by funkybusiness » May 15th, 2019, 10:41 pm

there's a lengthy thread on criterionforum about it. http://criterionforum.org/forum/viewtop ... =2&t=16000

Citizen Kane and King Kong are pretty heavy favorites it seems. for reference, they were spine numbers 1 and 2 back in the laserdisc days. They're both RKO titles, which are owned by Warner in the US, but they don't own worldwide rights, which might entice Warner to license them to CC. The New Years letter also had a sled as a clue, which might be CK, but it looked like it was made of bamboo, so it could be Spike Lee's Bamboozled (bamboo-sled).

It'll probably end up being The Grand Budapest Hotel because Anderson has, what, like 3 x00 spine numbers for his films. and his films print money for CC.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » May 15th, 2019, 11:02 pm

funkybusiness wrote:
May 15th, 2019, 8:53 pm
Criterion, August 2019:

#991: The Koker Trilogy
- #990: Where is the Friend's House? (1987)
- #991: And Life Goes On (1992)
- #992: Through the Olive Trees (1994)
There it is! What's up with the numbering? Did they forget how to count? LOL

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Post by funkybusiness » May 15th, 2019, 11:04 pm

probably a typo or something. they altered the initial spine numbers last month too.

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Post by OldAle1 » May 15th, 2019, 11:11 pm

I might actually pre-order that entire month's releases, that'd be a first for me.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » May 15th, 2019, 11:14 pm

Definitely going to preorder the Koker trilogy, and get rid of the shitty bootlegs I have.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » May 16th, 2019, 3:03 am

funkybusiness wrote:
April 16th, 2019, 10:44 pm
and today they corrected their horrendous mistake of giving spine #984 to Europa Europa and not...ya know, 1984.
I just realized this was probably not a mistake but intentional revisionist wink at the film's content.

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Post by Knaldskalle » May 16th, 2019, 4:32 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 3:03 am
funkybusiness wrote:
April 16th, 2019, 10:44 pm
and today they corrected their horrendous mistake of giving spine #984 to Europa Europa and not...ya know, 1984.
I just realized this was probably not a mistake but intentional revisionist wink at the film's content.
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Post by Knaldskalle » May 16th, 2019, 4:35 am

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
May 15th, 2019, 9:35 pm
So finally the Koker trilogy is released. :banana: The cover design reminds me of that of Dekalog. I love the cover for the Ozu (l)

Are there any rumors or indications about what #1000 will be?
Rumors are all over the place. I'd personally love to see an Akira Kurosawa box set for #1000. He "only" made something like 33 movies, so it wouldn't even have to be as big as teh Bergman set... :whistling: :D
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Post by funkybusiness » May 16th, 2019, 4:38 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 3:03 am
funkybusiness wrote:
April 16th, 2019, 10:44 pm
and today they corrected their horrendous mistake of giving spine #984 to Europa Europa and not...ya know, 1984.
I just realized this was probably not a mistake but intentional revisionist wink at the film's content.
I don't know what you're on about. It's always been spine #984.

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Post by funkybusiness » May 16th, 2019, 4:39 am

Knaldskalle wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 4:35 am
Lonewolf2003 wrote:
May 15th, 2019, 9:35 pm
So finally the Koker trilogy is released. :banana: The cover design reminds me of that of Dekalog. I love the cover for the Ozu (l)

Are there any rumors or indications about what #1000 will be?
Rumors are all over the place. I'd personally love to see an Akira Kurosawa box set for #1000. He "only" made something like 33 movies, so it wouldn't even have to be as big as teh Bergman set... :whistling: :D
Another possible contender, although not quite as "prestigious" as some of the other suggestions, is the long-delayed Godzilla set. They've waited, what, like 6 years to snap up the rights to those last three they were missing.

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Post by Ebbywebby » May 16th, 2019, 10:44 pm

I've seen this speculation about "spine #1000" before (on Facebook too) and, whew, this just goes far beyond my own movie-geek level.

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Post by albajos » May 16th, 2019, 10:49 pm

A box set of all laserdisc releases not yet released on DVD/BR would be nice

(it's 105 of them)
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Post by funkybusiness » May 16th, 2019, 10:50 pm

albajos wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 10:49 pm
A box set of all laserdisc releases not yet released on DVD/BR would be nice
but in laserdisc format.

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Post by albajos » May 16th, 2019, 10:53 pm

Also

April Fool's pranks
On April Fool's Day 2011, spine #573, which was not yet issued, was assigned to the 1984 movie C.H.U.D.
On April Fool's Day 2012, spine #620, which was not yet issued, was assigned to the 1990 movie Kindergarten Cop

So maybe as #1000

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Post by weirdboy » May 16th, 2019, 10:56 pm

Armageddon re-release?

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Post by Nathan Treadway » May 16th, 2019, 11:09 pm

weirdboy wrote:
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Armageddon re-release?
Will maintain it's old number. Unless, they make a Michael Bay boxset with it and The Rock. Maybe add the Transformers movies just for good measure.

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Post by albajos » May 16th, 2019, 11:13 pm

All those Playboy videos as well

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Post by Timec » May 18th, 2019, 4:19 pm

Don't know if anyone else here uses FilmAF (formerly DVD AF) to keep track of their DVD/Blu-ray collection, but they just announced they're going to be shutting down next month. :(

It's easy enough to export my own collection to a spreadsheet - the big loss will be their database, which is probably the single best catalog of DVD and Blu-ray releases on the internet.

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Post by jonas2k » May 21st, 2019, 5:32 pm

What about Invelos.com's DVD Profiler?

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