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How to know if you are an IMDB Top 1000 voter

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Post by blueboybob » March 24th, 2013, 7:46 pm

So I learned this little trick and I thought I would pass it on.

Find a movie on IMDB with very few ratings. i.e. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406535

Now next to the rating click the from "X USERS" i.e. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406535/rat ... _=tt_ov_rt

scroll down to the ratings breakdown you will see this movie has 2 ratings from IMDB top 1000 users. Click on that. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406535/ratings-top_1000

Now you rate the movie something that none of the other IMDB top 1000 people have rated it Say '8' for this movie.

Now wait 48 hours and return to the breakdown. If you are a top 1000 voter you will see 1 rating for 8. If not then you are not.

DONT FORGET TO REMOVE THE FALSE RATING!

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Post by mightysparks » March 25th, 2013, 1:12 am

Yeah I do it every now and then to check, but sadly I'm not one :(
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Post by Kasparius » March 25th, 2013, 2:09 am

I think I am one, I noticed it with some shorts lately.

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Post by Armoreska » March 25th, 2013, 7:13 pm

I learned to do that when I was about 9000 checks votes old :P

Does it take exactly 48 hours to register, or that's just a ballpark figure?
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#5

Post by St. Gloede » March 25th, 2013, 7:26 pm

It's also helpful to keep track of the rest of the ratings to that you know when your vote is counted.

Haven't done this in a few years, but I was one of the top 1000 voters back in 2008-2009. I could have dropped off since but I doubt it.

Edit: Just checked a relatively unknown film I rated last week and looked at the top 1000 average, and yup, I'm still one of them. (l)
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 25th, 2013, 7:40 pm

How many films have you guys rated? I'm pretty sure I'm not one of the top 1000 but I don't know if how far off I am.

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Post by bal3x » March 25th, 2013, 7:45 pm

I've rated 3206 titles, member for 6 years, looks like I'm not a top 1000 voter though.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 25th, 2013, 7:52 pm

bal3x on Mar 25 2013, 01:45:26 PM wrote:I've rated 3206 titles, member for 6 years, looks like I'm not a top 1000 voter though.
I meant those in the top 1000. I've rated 4855.

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Post by joachimt » March 25th, 2013, 7:52 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Mar 25 2013, 01:40:44 PM wrote:How many films have you guys rated? I'm pretty sure I'm not one of the top 1000 but I don't know if how far off I am.
I have rated 6262 titles. Last time I tried I was a member of the top1000. I'll try again next time I rate a rare title.
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Post by EssexMutant » March 25th, 2013, 7:53 pm

Does the magical number of votes required for this include TV episodes that are rated?

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Post by joachimt » March 25th, 2013, 7:54 pm

No idea. I did vote for a lot of TV-episodes.
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Post by Armoreska » March 25th, 2013, 8:03 pm

EssexMutant on Mar 25 2013, 01:53:20 PM wrote:Does the magical number of votes required for this include TV episodes that are rated?
As far as I know
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Post by joachimt » March 29th, 2013, 6:04 pm

I checked again and I'm in the top 1000 voters of IMDB. I gave Arena of murder a rating 7 a few days ago. Before that it was 15 voters with 1 top 1000 voter with rating 10. I have rated 6506 titles.
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Post by lampadatriste » March 29th, 2013, 6:47 pm

There's also another easy, instant and more accurate way of knowing (if you are not one). Find a very rare entry nearly only you rated. If there are no top 1000 voters, you are not a top 1000 voters. If there are at least one for all of those cases, try the other method.

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Post by Prequel » June 20th, 2013, 3:22 am

Oh crap, I'm not one. :D

Like it's a news to me. Tough I'd be one, if it could just measure my good taste. :turned: Just checked my already-voted 7 titles with <25 votes, all top1000 votes were anything but my rating. Anyway it's good to know "for sure".

I have 1795 titles rated.

So is it about 6000 then, or are there anyone with lower # of ratings? Seems a bit absurd tough. There should be much more people than 1000, with 6000+ ratings on IMDb, don't you think?

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Post by VincentPrice » June 20th, 2013, 3:43 am

It must be more, I'm at 9,113 and I'm not a Top 1000 voter as far as I know.

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Post by SanderO » June 20th, 2013, 3:01 pm

I have 8216 ratings and I am a Top 1000 voter so it's not just the total number of votes. I almost exclusively rate movies and shorts on IMDb (no TV-episodes unless they are on an iCM-list), maybe that accounts for the difference? Or maybe you are a Top 1000-voter and you don't even know it :)

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Post by jeff_v » October 30th, 2013, 10:49 pm

lampadatriste on Mar 29 2013, 12:47:26 PM wrote:There's also another easy, instant and more accurate way of knowing (if you are not one). Find a very rare entry nearly only you rated. If there are no top 1000 voters, you are not a top 1000 voters. If there are at least one for all of those cases, try the other method.
I tried this method and it looks like I'm in the top 1000. I looked up three films where there was only one top 1000 voter, and it matched my vote. I have 6495 rated.

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Post by mightysparks » October 30th, 2013, 10:54 pm

I still keep checking and I'm not one :( And I've been rating regularly since 2004 and have 5663 titles rated. I feel betrayed.
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Post by Kasparius » October 30th, 2013, 11:17 pm

I'm in that club. My vote is golden.

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Post by bal3x » October 31st, 2013, 12:15 am

Kasparius on Oct 30 2013, 05:17:29 PM wrote:I'm in that club. My vote is golden.
Looks like I'm in the club too now :) Checked by this method with a rare title a couple of weeks back. But seems that the number of ratings is not the key factor since I have relatively few ratings compared to some of the other folks, only slightly above 4K.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 31st, 2013, 12:26 am

bal3x on Oct 30 2013, 06:15:56 PM wrote:
Kasparius on Oct 30 2013, 05:17:29 PM wrote:I'm in that club. My vote is golden.
Looks like I'm in the club too now :) Checked by this method with a rare title a couple of weeks back. But seems that the number of ratings is not the key factor since I have relatively few ratings compared to some of the other folks, only slightly above 4K.
I don't think so. Are you sure that you're not confusing your vote with someone else's?

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Post by bal3x » October 31st, 2013, 12:32 am

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 06:26:54 PM wrote:
bal3x on Oct 30 2013, 06:15:56 PM wrote:
Kasparius on Oct 30 2013, 05:17:29 PM wrote:I'm in that club. My vote is golden.
Looks like I'm in the club too now :) Checked by this method with a rare title a couple of weeks back. But seems that the number of ratings is not the key factor since I have relatively few ratings compared to some of the other folks, only slightly above 4K.
I don't think so. Are you sure that you're not confusing your vote with someone else's?
I don't think so, I made screenshots to make sure :) There was no top 1000 vote on that title and within less than 48 hours (I think it was actually more like 24 hours) my vote was registered. So it's not the number votes only, there are apparently other things being taken into account, but we don't know what those are and they will not disclose it of course.
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Post by mightysparks » October 31st, 2013, 12:34 am

I just look for a film without many ratings and keep looking until I find one I've voted on with no Top 1000 Voters (or no Top 1000 Voters with my rating).
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Post by St. Gloede » October 31st, 2013, 12:35 am

Interesting that it's not just the amount of titles rated that's taken into. They have never released the criteria.

Wish there was a way to get rid of all the fake top 1000 voters though, who just votes to troll.

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Post by brokenface » October 31st, 2013, 12:35 am

if they're trying to make it somewhat representative, I guess they might factor in geography & ensure a certain amount from different countries.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 31st, 2013, 12:37 am

bal3x on Oct 30 2013, 06:32:16 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 06:26:54 PM wrote:
bal3x on Oct 30 2013, 06:15:56 PM wrote:Looks like I'm in the club too now :) Checked by this method with a rare title a couple of weeks back. But seems that the number of ratings is not the key factor since I have relatively few ratings compared to some of the other folks, only slightly above 4K.
I don't think so. Are you sure that you're not confusing your vote with someone else's?
I don't think so, I made screenshots to make sure :) There was no top 1000 vote on that title and within less than 48 hours (I think it was actually more like 24 hours) my vote was registered. So it's not the number votes only, there are apparently other things being taken into account, but we don't know what those are and they will not disclose it of course.
Uh, no:
http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?topvoters
All they won't say is what the cutoff is.
You sure it's not a coincidence and someone else rated it at the same time? If you pick a movie that's an official check then you're likely to just have other people like Kas checking it.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 31st, 2013, 12:38 am

Top 1000 voters don't get any special weight on anything, it's just a fun stat. There's no reason for them to weight it by region/age/gender or anything like that.

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Post by St. Gloede » October 31st, 2013, 2:32 am

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 06:38:26 PM wrote:Top 1000 voters don't get any special weight on anything, it's just a fun stat. There's no reason for them to weight it by region/age/gender or anything like that.
Incorrect. The votes of the top 1000 voters count to a higher degree than the votes of non-top 1000 voters.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 31st, 2013, 3:00 am

St. Gloede on Oct 30 2013, 08:32:58 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 06:38:26 PM wrote:Top 1000 voters don't get any special weight on anything, it's just a fun stat. There's no reason for them to weight it by region/age/gender or anything like that.
Incorrect. The votes of the top 1000 voters count to a higher degree than the votes of non-top 1000 voters.
Source? I can't find anything confirming or denying this right now.

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Post by St. Gloede » October 31st, 2013, 3:07 am

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 09:00:23 PM wrote:
St. Gloede on Oct 30 2013, 08:32:58 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 06:38:26 PM wrote:Top 1000 voters don't get any special weight on anything, it's just a fun stat. There's no reason for them to weight it by region/age/gender or anything like that.
Incorrect. The votes of the top 1000 voters count to a higher degree than the votes of non-top 1000 voters.
Source? I can't find anything confirming or denying this right now.
Can't recall if there's specific sources, but if you look at films with small amounts of ratings you will see that it will be closer to the average rating of the top 1000 voters. Not sure how much more their votes are weighted than the average user - as you know IMDb is very secretive about this group.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 31st, 2013, 3:14 am

St. Gloede on Oct 30 2013, 09:07:53 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 09:00:23 PM wrote:
St. Gloede on Oct 30 2013, 08:32:58 PM wrote:Incorrect. The votes of the top 1000 voters count to a higher degree than the votes of non-top 1000 voters.
Source? I can't find anything confirming or denying this right now.
Can't recall if there's specific sources, but if you look at films with small amounts of ratings you will see that it will be closer to the average rating of the top 1000 voters. Not sure how much more their votes are weighted than the average user - as you know IMDb is very secretive about this group.
Even looking at films with no top 1000 voters, films with small amount of ratings seem to be totally random. What you're seeing may just be due to any other weighting they do. Top 1000 voters would also almost certainly count as regular voters, who do explicitly get extra weight, so it could just be that what you're seeing is the regular voter vs non regular voter weighting rather than top 1000 vs non top 1000. I'm sure I've seen a quote from imdb staff saying top 1000 voters don't get extra weight, but I may be misremembering or it may have changed.

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Post by St. Gloede » October 31st, 2013, 3:31 am

Ah, yes, that's true, it could just be "regular voters" - but I'm still quite sure the top 1000 is weighted more. Why else have the category? As regular voters are counted more, the stage above them would be the top 1000 voters.

But I could be wrong I guess.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 31st, 2013, 3:51 am

They have a category for imdb staff and that one is explicitly given no extra weight. It's just for extra info. They could give them extra weight without displaying the category, so the fact that it is displayed doesn't really give evidence either way.

It's also possible that their algorithm isn't a consistent weighting but rather a relative weighting to some "standard" distribution of categories. In which case if top 1000 voters were used they might have extra weighting for some films and less weighting for others, depending on the proportion of top 1000 voters in that film relative to whatever imdb deems standard.

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Post by bal3x » October 31st, 2013, 1:17 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 06:37:04 PM wrote:
bal3x on Oct 30 2013, 06:32:16 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 30 2013, 06:26:54 PM wrote:I don't think so. Are you sure that you're not confusing your vote with someone else's?
I don't think so, I made screenshots to make sure :) There was no top 1000 vote on that title and within less than 48 hours (I think it was actually more like 24 hours) my vote was registered. So it's not the number votes only, there are apparently other things being taken into account, but we don't know what those are and they will not disclose it of course.
Uh, no:
http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?topvoters
All they won't say is what the cutoff is.
You sure it's not a coincidence and someone else rated it at the same time? If you pick a movie that's an official check then you're likely to just have other people like Kas checking it.
Well, I specifically picked a very rare title with 6 votes... so it was pretty clear to me that my vote was counted as the rating changed massively something like from 7 to 5 (I rated it as 1/10 intentionally) and in the details a top 1000 vote was clearly added.
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Post by greenhorg » November 18th, 2013, 9:19 pm

imdb says that it's just about how many titles you've rated, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was also based on overall participation (rating regularity, movie reviews, making lists, editing content, etc).

Do people here that are known top 1000 voters also write reviews on imdb and stuff like that?

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Post by joachimt » November 18th, 2013, 9:22 pm

greenhorg on Nov 18 2013, 02:19:43 PM wrote:Do people here that are known top 1000 voters also write reviews on imdb and stuff like that?
Last time I checked, I'm a top1000 voters.

I don't write reviews.
I do contribute by editing pages and I added about 80 movies to IMDB.

But I don't think that's makes any difference.
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Post by Armoreska » November 18th, 2013, 9:38 pm

greenhorg on Nov 18 2013, 02:19:43 PM wrote:imdb says that it's just about how many titles you've rated, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was also based on overall participation (rating regularity, movie reviews, making lists, editing content, etc).

Do people here that are known top 1000 voters also write reviews on imdb and stuff like that?
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Post by joachimt » April 11th, 2014, 8:02 pm

I just wondered how many of the top 1000 voters are trolls. If you look at the vote-distribution of those voters you often see a lot of them voting 1/10 for movies that are not that bad. For example 8% of the top 1000 voted 1/10 for "LOTR: The return of the king". I'm not saying LOTR should be so high in the top 250, but voting 1/10 is ridiculous. 8% are a lot of trolls, I think.
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Post by SkilledLunatic » April 11th, 2014, 8:22 pm

joachimt on Apr 11 2014, 02:02:27 PM wrote:I just wondered how many of the top 1000 voters are trolls. If you look at the vote-distribution of those voters you often see a lot of them voting 1/10 for movies that are not that bad. For example 8% of the top 1000 voted 1/10 for "LOTR: The return of the king". I'm not saying LOTR should be so high in the top 250, but voting 1/10 is ridiculous. 8% are a lot of trolls, I think.
Yes, I see a lot of 1/10 votes in the top1000 imdb. FOR EVERYTHING. Onderhond are you in top1000 buddy?

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