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Kasparius on Mar 21 2013, 08:10:50 PM wrote:But even if people don't find Mon oncle funny, I don't see how it's possible to ignore his inventive mise en scène and sense of composition. This alone places it high and above a good third of the list.
This is definitely what saves the few films of his that I've seen. I still think that L' illusionniste is easily the best, even if it isn't technically his film.
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Yeah I don't often find Tati outright funny, but definitely appreciate the films. Prefer Playtime & Les vacances to Mon Oncle.

I don't mind Un homme et une femme, but it has to go down as one of the worst for the reason that it was picked to win ahead of The Battle of Algiers! :wacko:
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Of the 24 Best Foreign Picture winners I've seen, 8 1/2 is by far the worst.
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ArthurYanthar on Mar 21 2013, 08:13:01 PM wrote:
Kasparius on Mar 21 2013, 08:10:50 PM wrote:But even if people don't find Mon oncle funny, I don't see how it's possible to ignore his inventive mise en scène and sense of composition. This alone places it high and above a good third of the list.
This is definitely what saves the few films of his that I've seen. I still think that L' illusionniste is easily the best, even if it isn't technically his film.
Can you please not mention Chomet in the same breath as Tati, the guy wishes.
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I have seen all OSCAR best picture winners and Slumdog Millionaire is THE WORST. Tom Jones comes close second.
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Crinderman on Mar 21 2013, 03:18:21 PM wrote:
Thorkell on Mar 21 2013, 02:23:57 PM wrote:Regarding Cimarron. I have not seen any of the other nominated films that year so I wonder if it was the best pick of the 5 nominated. None of them gets great reviews on IMDb and all of the have few votes:
East Lynne 6.9/10 with 44 votes
The Front Page 6.9/10 with 921 votes
Skippy 6.3/10 with 267 votes
Trader Horn with 6.5/10 249 votes.

And if we look at iCM then we see that none of them are on any other list there than the nomination list. Not promising. Has anyone here seen there other 4 nominated films?

But look at the films that where NOT nominated:
City Lights (1931)
Frankenstein (1931)
Tabu: A Story of the South Seas (1931)
Street Scene (1931)
Safe in Hell (1931)
I shockingly haven't seen any of those either. The Front Page is the first filmed version of His Girl Friday (and Wilder's The Front Page) though. I bet it has some good qualities.
The Front Page is the only one I've seen. Has some of the usual problems of early sound films, like somewhat clumsy (sound) editing. Some of the attempts at humor also felt somewhat awkward but on the whole I thought the film was okay and well worth a watch, don't think CM will hate it either ("meh" reaction is somewhat more likely).
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Have anyone changed your opinions in this one and a half year? I see Mighty changer her's on Casablanca. I changed mine on In the Heat of the Night, French Connection.
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Kasparius on Mar 21 2013, 07:58:26 PM wrote:Anybody who thinks Mon oncle is the worst film on that list needs to have their heads examined. (All offense caused by this sentence is deeply calculated.)
Mon oncle might sound pretty good if you hated Cinema Paradiso, but coming from a Cinema Paradiso lover, I found Mon Oncle to be borderline underbearable and not cute.
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Casablanca is the only change for me, although I was still exaggerating my hatred for it there, it really should've been more around #8.
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We've gone over this before, so I won't bother. The treasure known as Mon Oncle will be all mine then. B)blue
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Never posted in that thread, and in fact I never answered the OP's question. Might as well make my list now of all dislikes. I've seen 62:

1. Cimarron (1/10)
2. Crash
3. Titanic
4. Slumdog Millionaire (2/10)
5. My Fair Lady
6. Shakespeare in Love
7. Chicago
8. Million Dollar Baby (3/10)
9. The English Patient
10. Braveheart
11. Argo
12. Gladiator
13. Dances with Wolves (4/10)
14. Out of Africa
15. West Side Story
16. The Artist
17. The King's Speech
18. Gone With the Wind
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I have now seen all of them. The Broadway Melody managed to be worse than Cimarron! OMG! Do you need an inspiration to commit suicide? Look no further. This film will rob you of almost any desire to live. I have problems with films that make jokes of people that stutter and belittle women. This does both, it has a silly story, bad acting and very bad camera work. This is bad, bad, bad and not in a good way! What where they smoking when they gave the Oscar to this turd?

And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it. The same goes for 8 1/2.
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ArthurYanthar on Mar 21 2013, 01:24:09 PM wrote:All of this talk is making me wanna watch Cimarron.
That's what you said about Gummo too... I fear we may have a Cimarron fan amongst ourselves :lol:
EDIT: I guess you didn't like it after all :whistling:
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Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote:And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it.
:rolleyes:

Glad we can debate films on here.
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Kasparius on Mar 21 2013, 02:44:41 PM wrote:Tornatore movies are my idea of hell.
I dislike Cinema Paradiso too, but have you seen Una pura formalita, Il camorrista, La sconosciuta?
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Kasparius on Mar 21 2013, 08:10:50 PM wrote:This proves once again that comedies is the most problematic genre when it comes to any kind of consensus. But even if people don't find Mon oncle funny, I don't see how it's possible to ignore his inventive mise en scène and sense of composition. This alone places it high and above a good third of the list.
Yes, I agree with this - I used to hate Tati, but actually comparing his films with the rest of crap that's out there he clearly cannot be considered the worst! I'm just largely indifferent to them, but I can at least appreciate some other aspects, there are redeeming values there.

And out of 31 films seen on the foreign list I have 2 dislikes: Cinema Paradiso and La vita e bella - I find both of these really annoying.
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Second place: Braveheart
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Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote:I have now seen all of them. The Broadway Melody managed to be worse than Cimarron! OMG! Do you need an inspiration to commit suicide? Look no further. This film will rob you of almost any desire to live. I have problems with films that make jokes of people that stutter and belittle women. This does both, it has a silly story, bad acting and very bad camera work. This is bad, bad, bad and not in a good way! What where they smoking when they gave the Oscar to this turd?

And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it. The same goes for 8 1/2.
Not to mention that the acting resembled that of a John Waters movie, only without the irony.
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Crinderman on Mar 22 2013, 09:17:34 AM wrote:
Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote:I have now seen all of them. The Broadway Melody managed to be worse than Cimarron! OMG! Do you need an inspiration to commit suicide? Look no further. This film will rob you of almost any desire to live. I have problems with films that make jokes of people that stutter and belittle women. This does both, it has a silly story, bad acting and very bad camera work. This is bad, bad, bad and not in a good way! What where they smoking when they gave the Oscar to this turd?

And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it. The same goes for 8 1/2.
Not to mention that the acting resembled that of a John Waters movie, only without the irony.
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intothewild on Mar 22 2013, 05:58:06 AM wrote:
Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote:And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it.
:rolleyes:

Glad we can debate films on here.
Don't listen to him, Thorkell. Come on, let's ditch these non-Mon Oncle-loving LOSERS and go to our OWN private treehouse where we can look at Mon Oncle comic books and talk about all sorts of cool stuff. We don't need them!
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Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote:I have now seen all of them. The Broadway Melody managed to be worse than Cimarron! OMG! Do you need an inspiration to commit suicide? Look no further. This film will rob you of almost any desire to live. I have problems with films that make jokes of people that stutter and belittle women. This does both, it has a silly story, bad acting and very bad camera work. This is bad, bad, bad and not in a good way! What where they smoking when they gave the Oscar to this turd?

And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it. The same goes for 8 1/2.
My opinion:
The Broadway Melody (2/10)

The Patriot (Lost)

The Hollywood Revue of 1929 (3/10) Although I rated it worse, I would never be able to pick this for Best Picture because it was just the MGM contract players in a plotless skits/acts.

In Old Arizona (2/10) Do not remember much, but I am not a fan of western and it could not have been that great if I gave it the same rating as The Broadway Melody.

Alibi (4/10) I do not remember much, but it would be my default winning, not a strong year for films.

Other films I have seen that year nominated for an Academy Award:
The Divine Lady (5/10)
The Valiant (6/10)
Coquette (2/10) - Terrible Best Actress win.
The Last of Mrs. Cheyney (7/10)
Our Dancing Daughters (8/10)
A Woman of Affairs (6/10)
Street Angel (5/10)
White Shadows in the South Seas (6/10)
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Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Mar 22 2013, 02:01:55 PM wrote:
intothewild on Mar 22 2013, 05:58:06 AM wrote:
Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote:And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it.
:rolleyes:

Glad we can debate films on here.
Don't listen to him, Thorkell. Come on, let's ditch these non-Mon Oncle-loving LOSERS and go to our OWN private treehouse where we can look at Mon Oncle comic books and talk about all sorts of cool stuff. We don't need them!
:hmph:
I'm up for it, and yes, to hell with them! ;)
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sheikofhyrule on Mar 22 2013, 03:21:33 PM wrote:
Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote:I have now seen all of them. The Broadway Melody managed to be worse than Cimarron! OMG! Do you need an inspiration to commit suicide? Look no further. This film will rob you of almost any desire to live. I have problems with films that make jokes of people that stutter and belittle women. This does both, it has a silly story, bad acting and very bad camera work. This is bad, bad, bad and not in a good way! What where they smoking when they gave the Oscar to this turd?

And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it. The same goes for 8 1/2.
My opinion:
The Broadway Melody (2/10)

The Patriot (Lost)

The Hollywood Revue of 1929 (3/10) Although I rated it worse, I would never be able to pick this for Best Picture because it was just the MGM contract players in a plotless skits/acts.

In Old Arizona (2/10) Do not remember much, but I am not a fan of western and it could not have been that great if I gave it the same rating as The Broadway Melody.

Alibi (4/10) I do not remember much, but it would be my default winning, not a strong year for films.

Other films I have seen that year nominated for an Academy Award:
The Divine Lady (5/10)
The Valiant (6/10)
Coquette (2/10) - Terrible Best Actress win.
The Last of Mrs. Cheyney (7/10)
Our Dancing Daughters (8/10)
A Woman of Affairs (6/10)
Street Angel (5/10)
White Shadows in the South Seas (6/10)
You are my hero. Is there something you have not seen?

By the way, does anyone here know why there where two awards in 1930?

Also, this April ceremony has films from 1928 and 1929. One would have thought that there where enough good films from that time to go around. Granted, the best films from the 20s are not from Hollywood but at least they had these: The Last Command (1928), The Docks of New York (1928), The Circus (1928), The Mysterious Lady (1928).

Edit: From Wikipedia: "The 2nd Academy Awards were presented on April 3, 1930, at an awards banquet in the Cocoanut Grove of The Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, and broadcast live on the radio. The awards were for films released between August 1, 1928, and July 31, 1929.
As the ceremony was being held more than eight months after the end of the eligibility period, it was decided that the 3rd Academy Awards would be held in November 1930, so as to bring the awards ceremony closer to the relevant time period. As a result, 1930 was the only year in which two awards ceremonies were held in the same calendar year."
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Currently in the middle of watching Return of the King and it has to be the worst best film winner I've seen. I turned to Wikipedia for some help with following the plot, but that was a waste of time. How a film with a plot that read like this can win best film is beyond me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_o ... _King#Plot
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I could follow the plot easily. Have you seen the last two films?
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I have and wasn't a fan, I would just expect a Best Picture to be able to stand alone and be accessible to all, but you clearly have to have invested in the mythology to fully appreciate and follow it.
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Thorkell on Mar 22 2013, 03:26:47 AM wrote: And as to Mon oncle. I'm not even going to talk to people who don't like it. The same goes for 8 1/2.
Start a list, there's a ton of unfortunate Mon oncle haters here.

I need to rewatch Mon oncle, Hulot, Jour de fete and Playtime. I haven't seen then in a while. I'm sure that Playtime blu ray looks stunning.
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bal3x on Mar 22 2013, 06:03:26 AM wrote:
Kasparius on Mar 21 2013, 02:44:41 PM wrote:Tornatore movies are my idea of hell.
I dislike Cinema Paradiso too, but have you seen Una pura formalita, Il camorrista, La sconosciuta?
No, but I'm no hurry. Although coming from a Paradiso hater, that's pretty enticing
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Kasparius on Mar 23 2013, 10:07:51 AM wrote:
bal3x on Mar 22 2013, 06:03:26 AM wrote:
Kasparius on Mar 21 2013, 02:44:41 PM wrote:Tornatore movies are my idea of hell.
I dislike Cinema Paradiso too, but have you seen Una pura formalita, Il camorrista, La sconosciuta?
No, but I'm no hurry. Although coming from a Paradiso hater, that's pretty enticing
Yeah, but these films are really different from the type of Paradiso and Legend of 1900... my favorite is Una pura formalita, it stars Depardieu and Polanski in the leads and I thought it was very well done, Il Camorrista is a pretty decent drama featuring Ben Gazzara and La sconosciuta is probably the weakest one of these three, but a pretty decent thriller.
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I've been meaning to watch Una pura formalita sometimes. I will watch the French version though, I'm not watching some Italian dub.
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Kasparius on Mar 23 2013, 12:08:31 PM wrote:I've been meaning to watch Una pura formalita sometimes. I will watch the French version though, I'm not watching some Italian dub.
Yeah. I'm not sure if translation was excellent since this is a dialog driven film thus script is the most important thing here.
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bal3x on Mar 23 2013, 12:12:04 PM wrote:
Kasparius on Mar 23 2013, 12:08:31 PM wrote:I've been meaning to watch Una pura formalita sometimes. I will watch the French version though, I'm not watching some Italian dub.
Yeah. I'm not sure if translation was excellent since this is a dialog driven film thus script is the most important thing here.
Also Depardieu and Polanski's voices are awesome.
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Kasparius on Mar 23 2013, 12:17:19 PM wrote:
bal3x on Mar 23 2013, 12:12:04 PM wrote:
Kasparius on Mar 23 2013, 12:08:31 PM wrote:I've been meaning to watch Una pura formalita sometimes. I will watch the French version though, I'm not watching some Italian dub.
Yeah. I'm not sure if translation was excellent since this is a dialog driven film thus script is the most important thing here.
Also Depardieu and Polanski's voices are awesome.
Indeed :)
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ArthurYanthar on Mar 21 2013, 01:24:09 PM wrote:All of this talk is making me wanna watch Cimarron.
This.
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I've now seen 78/86 Best Picture winners, and I have to say Tom Jones (1963) is the worst Best Picture winner by far. It's like they mixed Barry Lyndon with a porno film, the humour doesn't work at all (with the exception of the silent intro) and visually it's an ugly film with horrible editing. It has almost no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Furthermore, it's mindblowing that it won over The Great Escape.

I haven't seen The Broadway Melody, Cimarron, Cavalcade and The Great Ziegfeld yet, so it may be possible that I change my mind after seeing those. But I don't think it can get any worse than Tom Jones.
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Forrester on Jun 1 2013, 06:26:13 PM wrote:But I don't think it can get any worse than Tom Jones.
Cimarron and Cavalcade will prove you wrong, my friend
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agrimorfee on Mar 29 2013, 07:51:25 AM wrote:
ArthurYanthar on Mar 21 2013, 01:24:09 PM wrote:All of this talk is making me wanna watch Cimarron.
This.
I just did. :ph43r:

What strikes me most is that this picture actually wants to fight all these stereotypes, but that it fails very hard, probably because they were so deeply rooted in the American culture right then.
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