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Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 18th, 2020, 8:30 pm
by prodigalgodson
Thrilled to watch my first Rohmer in a while, A Winter's Tale. I must've gotten in the spirit of it, pardon the verbose take:

Made me smile to be back in Rohmer's world; all those little ironies, nuances, mischaracterizations paint such a genuine, relatable, and across the course of his career, encompassing portrait of humanity. His exacting dialogue illuminates the inner essences of the characters and constructs consistent, philosophically sound exchanges, mostly focused on the complications of human passions, affording us a glance into a realm of effortless insight. Most of his films have such a warm palate its refreshing to see one cast shadowless by a wintry sky; the interiors maintain the vibe with gainy low lighting. It's also one of his tightest films, with a lovely musical editing rhythm; shit just flows. It ultimately hones in on a theme of faith, harking back to the Pascal preoccupation of the Moral Tales with the payoff of The Green Ray. I'm not crazy about the tidiness of the ending, but I'm not sure I'm supposed to be -- the lack of some final irony is certainly unexpected. There's also a dig at Godardian politics that made me laugh:

"I just know it's in America."
"North?"
*rolls eyes* "I assume."

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 19th, 2020, 7:22 am
by prodigalgodson
New Hong too! :D Right Now, Wrong Then:

Another fascinating reflection on how we construct truth and reality, and the various possibilities arising from divergent behaviors, from the master. It uses Hong's signature doubled story to present different subjective perspectives of similar events, the second variation being more awkward (a recurring word in the dialogue), generally less flattering to Hong's philandering proxy, and, it's hinted in Kim Min-hee's dialogue, a more honest interpretation of events (her doubled performance particularly stands out). I love seeing the evolution of his protagonists as Hong's stature grows as a director, and especially appreciate his timely grappling with me-too-related themes given that he's largely built his career on a lecherous reputation (ironically, the filming of this led to an affair between Kim and Hong that formed the basis for one of his wisest and most fully realized meditations a couple years later, On the Beach at Night Alone). There are some classic Hong set pieces: the usual temple and sake bar scenes, a drunken shindig in a claustrophobic apartment walled in by bookshelves and plastered posters of the likes of Magritte and Carax, and a film festival Q&A with about five people in an otherwise empty auditorium. Overall it didn't blow me away, but it's a worthy piece of one of cinema's great tapestries, and damn it made me crave a cigarette.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 19th, 2020, 8:29 am
by joachimt
I watched Coffy last night and I really don't understand all the decent ratings I'm seeing from my kumpels on Criticker (meaning you guys). The acting is horrible, the fighting scenes are ridiculous, the story hardly makes sense and the director is just thinking of pathetic ways to show boobies. On the other hand it's not in the so-bad-it's-good-league, so what are you guys seeing in this? Maybe if you like soul music? Or is it a lame attempt to make fun of this criminal part of society? If so, it falls flat.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 21st, 2020, 3:11 am
by equanimitty
The Seventh Seal -1957- I.Bergman.
I have decided to watch those three films MARKARETA LAZAROVA-ANDREI RUBLEV-THE SEVENTH SEAL

For me its like I am watching history of EUROPE from those black and white images with 400 and 500 years back life settings..Which appeals to me nice ...

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 21st, 2020, 4:13 am
by prodigalgodson
Sounds like a great triple feature.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 21st, 2020, 5:44 am
by joachimt
Tony Manero
He's an asshole, but we have no idea why.
He can grab any tit he likes and every woman lets him fuck her, but we have no idea why.
He's obsessed with John Travolta, but he looks pathetic.
He randomly kills people, but we have no idea why.
Oh right, he's a psychopath. That was clear from the beginning. No change in character. End of movie.
4/10

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 21st, 2020, 5:53 am
by funkybusiness
more poetry reviews please

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 21st, 2020, 6:13 am
by mightysparks
joachimt wrote:
May 19th, 2020, 8:29 am
I watched Coffy last night and I really don't understand all the decent ratings I'm seeing from my kumpels on Criticker (meaning you guys). The acting is horrible, the fighting scenes are ridiculous, the story hardly makes sense and the director is just thinking of pathetic ways to show boobies. On the other hand it's not in the so-bad-it's-good-league, so what are you guys seeing in this? Maybe if you like soul music? Or is it a lame attempt to make fun of this criminal part of society? If so, it falls flat.
Haven’t seen it in a long time, and I’m not a fan of boobies or soul, but I remembered it being pretty fun. All the stuff you thought was horrible and ridiculous I found charming and entertaining.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 22nd, 2020, 10:31 am
by Ebbywebby
Speaking of boobies. I'm only the second to check this?


Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 22nd, 2020, 11:30 am
by equanimitty
River of Fundament is a 2014 operatic experimental film written and directed by American artist and filmmaker Matthew Barney, and co-directed by longtime collaborator Jonathan Bepler. It was produced by Barney and the Laurenz Foundation and is loosely based on the 1983 novel Ancient Evenings by Norman Mailer.

FIRST PART I HAVE SEEN ...

BOOM BOOM I can say now just...

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 22nd, 2020, 3:12 pm
by cinewest
equanimitty wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 11:30 am
River of Fundament is a 2014 operatic experimental film written and directed by American artist and filmmaker Matthew Barney, and co-directed by longtime collaborator Jonathan Bepler. It was produced by Barney and the Laurenz Foundation and is loosely based on the 1983 novel Ancient Evenings by Norman Mailer.

FIRST PART I HAVE SEEN ...

BOOM BOOM I can say now just...
Just saw the trailer to that... looks wild. I remember reading Ancient Evenings during my college years. About 1000 pages, and pretty x-rated.

How did your triple feature of medieval Europe / Russia go? Can't imagine watching more than one of those at a sitting, with plenty of time in-between...

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 1:44 am
by equanimitty
Ancient Evenings is a 1983 historical novel by American author Norman Mailer. Set in ancient Egypt and dealing with the lives of the characters Menenhetet One and Meni, the novel received mixed reviews. Reviewers noted the historical research that went into writing it and considered Mailer successful at conveying the nature of ancient Egyptian life. However, they also criticized the novel's narration and questioned its literary merit. Ancient Evenings has been compared to the work of the poet James Merrill and the novelist Thomas Pynchon, as well as to Mailer's novel Harlot's Ghost (1991). Some have suggested that its opening passage is its strongest part. Ancient Evenings served as an inspiration for the artist Matthew Barney's operatic film River of Fundament (2014).

Wow Thanks to reply. its in my reading list.

Today I ll watch Second part of the movie - River of Fundament (2014).

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 2:34 am
by prodigalgodson
I haven't read any Mailer but Ancient Evenings sounds right up my alley. I dig some of Barney's stuff a lot, though I haven't seen anything recent.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 3:10 am
by cinewest
prodigalgodson wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 2:34 am
I haven't read any Mailer but Ancient Evenings sounds right up my alley. I dig some of Barney's stuff a lot, though I haven't seen anything recent.
Mailer was an interesting writer, but he tended towards over-writing, or bloating his subject matter, if only because he was in love with his own voice and ability to play with language.

One of my favorite books by him was his journalistic / novel Executioner's Song. A collection of shorter pieces called Advertisements for Myself is also a pretty interesting foray into his work.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 3:34 am
by prodigalgodson
cinewest wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 3:10 am
prodigalgodson wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 2:34 am
I haven't read any Mailer but Ancient Evenings sounds right up my alley. I dig some of Barney's stuff a lot, though I haven't seen anything recent.
Mailer was an interesting writer, but he tended towards over-writing, or bloating his subject matter, if only because he was in love with his own voice and ability to play with language.

One of my favorite books by him was his journalistic / novel Executioner's Song. A collection of shorter pieces called Advertisements for Myself is also a pretty interesting foray into his work.
Nice, thanks for the recommendations. Never heard of Advertisements for Myself, I tend to like short stories.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 3:52 am
by blocho
cinewest wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 3:10 am
Mailer was an interesting writer, but he tended towards over-writing, or bloating his subject matter, if only because he was in love with his own voice and ability to play with language.
Wow, that encapsulates my feelings on Mailer better than anything I could write myself. I read three of his books and they were OK, occasionally good. But his enormous self-regard in his non-fiction work is annoying.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 4:04 am
by cinewest
blocho wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 3:52 am
cinewest wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 3:10 am
Mailer was an interesting writer, but he tended towards over-writing, or bloating his subject matter, if only because he was in love with his own voice and ability to play with language.
Wow, that encapsulates my feelings on Mailer better than anything I could write myself. I read three of his books and they were OK, occasionally good. But his enormous self-regard in his non-fiction work is annoying.
He comes from that school of journalism where the journalist is at least as important as his subject matter. This was a popular style, particularly in the 60's and early 70's. Ever read Hunter Thompson?

As for his verbose but playful style, it worked well in his "fiction for hire" crime drama, Tough Guys Don't Dance, and since he was doing it quickly, and purely for the money, it's only about 300 pages

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 6:52 am
by blocho
I read only The Rum Diary, which was a lark. But I would put Thompson and Mailer in slightly different categories because Thompson started out as a journalist while Mailer started as a novelist and then took non-fiction work later in his career. I find Mailer much more interesting for having gotten away with the attempted murder of his wife and for later running for mayor of New York on a secessionist platform.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 8:02 am
by cinewest
blocho wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 6:52 am
I read only The Rum Diary, which was a lark. But I would put Thompson and Mailer in slightly different categories because Thompson started out as a journalist while Mailer started as a novelist and then took non-fiction work later in his career. I find Mailer much more interesting for having gotten away with the attempted murder of his wife and for later running for mayor of New York on a secessionist platform.
Yes, he was an interesting figure, something of a celebrity author and social commentator (his verbal battles with Gore Vidal are pretty entertaining).

He was such a strange combination of the traditional and cutting edge, the liberal and conservative, all wrapped into a very opinionated entertaining package.

He started out following somewhat in the footsteps of Hemingway: joined the army and wrote the great american war novel based on his experiences, and always wrote journalistic pieces until his career as a novelist really took hold. Advertisements For Myself includes some of those, and Executioner's Song, one of his most famous books, is based on his relationship with David Gilmore, a convicted murderer waiting on death row (I guess he was copying Truman Capote, there).

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 8:02 am
by Ebbywebby
blocho wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 6:52 am
I would put Thompson and Mailer in slightly different categories because Thompson started out as a journalist while Mailer started as a novelist and then took non-fiction work later in his career. I find Mailer much more interesting for having gotten away with the attempted murder of his wife
But Burroughs essentially got away with the SUCCESSFUL murder of his wife.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 8:12 am
by funkybusiness
Ebbywebby wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 8:02 am
blocho wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 6:52 am
I would put Thompson and Mailer in slightly different categories because Thompson started out as a journalist while Mailer started as a novelist and then took non-fiction work later in his career. I find Mailer much more interesting for having gotten away with the attempted murder of his wife
But Burroughs essentially got away with the SUCCESSFUL murder of his wife.
I was thinking the same thing.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 1:07 pm
by blocho
Wow, I never knew that about Burroughs. Althusser also killed his wife and got off with three years in a psych ward.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 2:47 pm
by OldAle1
Very rich and very famous people (usually white men, in America at least) get away with murder every day - Burroughs being not so rich and not so famous at the time, and being a heroin addict to boot...pretty strange. The fact that it happened in another country, and there were no witnesses, and doubtless Mexican forensics and criminal investigative methods in general were less thorough than we would hope for today (maybe even in the 50s)... it's still a little weird but sadly probably not all that remarkable. When you're part of the dominant race/gender/etc, your living word is worth more than a dead woman's evidence.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 9:00 pm
by matthewscott8
prodigalgodson wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 2:34 am
I haven't read any Mailer but Ancient Evenings sounds right up my alley. I dig some of Barney's stuff a lot, though I haven't seen anything recent.
Ancient Evenings is mental, highly recommended.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 24th, 2020, 4:09 am
by funkybusiness
blocho wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 1:07 pm
Wow, I never knew that about Burroughs.
Strange as it may seem, Cronenberg's Naked Lunch is based on a true story.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 24th, 2020, 4:16 am
by Ebbywebby
cinewest wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 8:02 am
Executioner's Song, one of his most famous books, is based on his relationship with David Gilmore, a convicted murderer waiting on death row
GARY Gilmore. I think you got your signals crossed with Pink Floyd.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 24th, 2020, 4:50 am
by cinewest
Ebbywebby wrote:
Yesterday, 4:16 am
cinewest wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 8:02 am
Executioner's Song, one of his most famous books, is based on his relationship with David Gilmore, a convicted murderer waiting on death row
GARY Gilmore. I think you got your signals crossed with Pink Floyd.
Right you are. That kind of thing is happening more and more as I get older

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 24th, 2020, 4:56 am
by funkybusiness
coincidentally, I've got a David Gilmour book here on the table next to me, and it's not either of those Gilmours/mores.

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 24th, 2020, 8:03 am
by cinewest
funkybusiness wrote:
Yesterday, 4:56 am
coincidentally, I've got a David Gilmour book here on the table next to me, and it's not either of those Gilmours/mores.
I recognize that spelling. Which one is that?

Re: Last Movie Seen

Posted: May 24th, 2020, 8:21 am
by funkybusiness
cinewest wrote:
Yesterday, 8:03 am
funkybusiness wrote:
Yesterday, 4:56 am
coincidentally, I've got a David Gilmour book here on the table next to me, and it's not either of those Gilmours/mores.
I recognize that spelling. Which one is that?
this guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_David ... th_Baronet